to do that is being completed, this is going to hunt the american administration for a very long time. but the after in gaza is or would it be shaped by the fighting issues idea by the steps, past missile over 4000000 people in gaza. and why is the thing that is happening outside the school of american control in palestine or to the middle east? right gentlemen, i have to jump in here. we've run out of time. fascinating. the schedule. and i think my guess in raleigh, seattle, and in new york. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. ok. so you next time. remember rus knuckles, the at the end of the 19th century, africa was divided between european empires,

which mercilessly oppressed the indigenous population. modern day tends and he used to be a german colony. the germans levied heavy taxes on local drives and used them as free labor on cotton plantations. the pheasants protest turned into an uprising against the colonial list under the banner of the religious movement of the magazine, mozy. it was led by a man named kinsey, could do the rebels use guerrilla tactics because they did not have the power to grasp the german army in head on confrontation. but the germans were not able to suppress the resistance of the guerrillas either. so the invaders decided to starve that population to day one of the commanders of the german troops, captain wagon time, wrote only anger and one can lead the final submission. military actions alone will remain more or less a drop and the ocean. the blasphemous land works. the invaders burned villages and

fields. in 2 years, germany deliberately starved up to 300000 people, did that later. the monstrous experience of the 2nd right in tanzania was copied by the 3rd right, lead by the nazis in order to extra pay that the both of europe, the public tranches. as you probably know, i've been doing news for some 30 years now and 2 languages and all over the world interviewed for us. presidents work that most of the major news networks. and i believe after all of that, that new should be honest and direct and impactful. and this is direct impact the

. so let's start with that city here a lot these days, right? especially from rich countries like ours about the problems of climate change and global warming. but there seems to be almost an inherent hypocrisy contained within some of these speeches. first, there's the obvious irony, right? if not a downright hypocrisy, in this case, the type that hits us in the face, like a blast of very from a take off of a nearby 747. and here's what i mean. have you ever watched how world leaders and their religious the media and that corporate peers arrive at summit's, where they then lecture poor countries on global warming? they do this right after they've disembarked from their multi 1000000 dollar private jets, a private jet. and by the way, pollutes the environment at a minimum of about 14 times in what a commercial jet would pollute the

the more they try to burn more fuels. and why is this happening? all of a sudden it's because of the one works sanctions, sanctions, specifically the sanctions on russia. remember what president biden curtailed imports of oil and coal, and natural gas from russia? well, here's what's happened since that right. 2 things that have happened 1st, the cost of energy shot up 2nd, that force rich countries to look for more fuel to burn because then now would make more money on it because the price has gone up. so they're burning more fuel. i'm going to give you some examples and the u. k. for example, the u. k, which has always publicly denounced fossil fuels,

has recently ended up breaking its promise to close at the coal plants and is now burning even more coal. and then there's a european union since attacking russia economically, right? it has increased by 11 fold 11 fold its import from of coal that it's getting from places like australia and indonesia and south africa. but perhaps the most ironic example of climate cube park, or sea comes from germany where they are closing and retiring one of their largest wind farms to you know, what they're going to be putting there in place of that wind farm. are you ready for this? the replacing that with a coal mine. that's right. they're extending their coal project and saying 9 to their wind farm. how do way? it's not just the rich. it's not just the rich nations that consume and burn the

most energy. it's also rich people. but and here comes the pros, according to the university of massachusetts adverts and a study they did. those who have enough resources to be in the top 10 percent of incomes in the united states are responsible for 40 percent of the greenhouse gas emissions. imagine that huh. 10 percent of us produced 40 percent of the harmful gases and who pays the highest price for all of this. because this is really where the rubber meets the road. right? well, it's definitely not. the originations like ours, it is, in fact, the poorest into valley islands are sacred to us. they contain the mano of all people with the home of vines as this. they are the home of up people today, and we want them to remain the home of up people into the future. you see the guy

right there. that's a for administer of to follow. that's a chain of islands in the pacific country. these are showing a warning to the entire world and look, or he's giving this speech from to prove his point. he made his historic comments to the world with half of his body underwater. and amazing him with half of his body under water, just like half of his country is now under water. in fact, it's estimated that within possibly 15 years to value will disappear completely. and it's for that reason that they're now already and talks to try and move every single person who lives there to some other place which country they're going to end up. and who knows. we're talking about families by the way, that i've been living there through their ancestors and these pacific islands for more than 5000 years. according to archeologists, you know,

maybe ironing of this situation is what makes their plight seemingly so unfair. right. these islanders, who are the least to blame for the climate change, are the ones who will face the biggest loss their country. and maybe that's why these recent comments from a former presidential candidate seem to me any way and probably to you just so cruel. john carrie is president biden special envoy on climate change. recently he was asked during the congressional hearing if we should help those poor countries and maybe offer some reparations. carrie was adam and saying, no, no reparations. for countries affected by climate disasters, at least not from the united states, said gary. if kelly went further, when he told that congressional hearing, the us would not pay reparations quote. under any

circumstances, are you planning to commit america to climate? reparations. that is, say, we have to pay some other country because they had a flood where they had a hurricane or a type know a while under no circumstances. and joining us now to talk about this hot topic is marco fernandez. he is a researcher at try continental institute for social research. he also does a lot of writing himself as an alternative or independent journalist, and it's a pleasure to have him join us marco, thanks so much for being with us. and let's just start with the question that a lot of people ask themselves when it comes to this whole climate issue. and that is, is there a sense of hypocrisy, you know, when it comes to the climate topic and at it and how, how bad is? well, there is, there is rick, there's a lot of the brokers, i would say,

1st of all, there's a concept that present lula from brazil. my president has been say, in international gatherings in the last months, which is the green. now, colonial is a green, now cologne. and this is a very interesting concept because what he means basically, how much in many situations in the last years, western countries has been using the agenda of environment issues, which is a true agenda is a legitimate and that is a real risk for the human kind but they have been using this to block the attempts of development in the global south countries into developing countries. and this is a lot of examples. i mean brazil is being suffering of this lately. so i don't know if your summer recently there wasn't. yeah, but, but in that yeah, but, but hold on that, let me just, i'm going to stop you for just a minute in the case of brazil it deforestation, for example, is

a re issue. and if, if my hip and if i lead or who happens to also be a hypocrite, by the way, or any other leader in the world who happens to be a hypocrite, says to brazil, you guys have to be able to control this. i mean, is that neil colonialism or is that just common sense? no. the thing is that of course, i mean what's happening now in brazil in the last years that's let's take bruises. a good example. we had 16 years of a writing stream. right wing government. absolutely devastating for, for the environment amazon for is, was burning almost every single day. we had many issues with that. and of course we had a president, the actually was incentive eating people to burn it for us. i mean, people, i mean, the aga businesses a big farmers, etc, or mining companies. okay. this is a problem, but this is, this has to be solved in brazil. this can be solved by some kind of sanctions from washington or form from brussels and what's happening now. exactly right now we

have a new president present that is absolutely committed to stop burning to for us to actually restore to amazon for us. but now for us is there's a, there is a negotiations between men console, the countries of south america. some of the countries with say it would be a union. they are threatening to put sanctions on south america. if they don't comply with their standards, what do they say is like, this is absolutely nonsense. i mean, we have to negotiate. we go to a table, we negotiate. we can just have unilateral sanctions from european countries because of a problem that we are ready solving because, i mean this, this very moment is soviet issue and he's committed to so well a n n a here's. here's what's interesting, good, because you mentioned, for example, that luna was a right winner and you're right spent, and lula had business deals all over the place with all these people who are doing the deforestation, etc, etc. and you're right,

but let me tell you something else. if we're going to expect the non right wing people supposedly, for example, in the united states, we hear the joe biden is a socialist and a communist. well, let me tell you a little bit about our socialist communist president, right? here's something president biden wright has apparently approved. and let me, let me make sure i get this right cuz i'm going off of my notes that i was preparing the for this interview. he has, according to several sources, approve more oil and gas permits on public lands here in the united states than any other president before him and certainly more than the trump administration. so apparently trump as a right winner and bite him is a left winger or a socialist or a communist, as they call him, which is ridiculous. but here, when we look at the facts, he's burning more of his, he's doing more damage to the, to the climate than the president. trump, who is supposed to be a right winner. so what the house, what do we make of this market? i mean, the thing is that again, i'm going back to present lula because, i mean,

he's been his, be raising the joshua's in, in all the, the national gathering that i think it's a very good position. one of the problems is that we don't have an international um stage to discuss these issues because i mean, if you go to united nations or the cops, the cops that this is, you know, like this environmental gatherings every year, which is really nice. yeah. yeah. yeah. i love, i have to be the it's the somebody that they have for me tired of the thing. yeah. don't know the ones where the big rich countries with their big ridge and leaders friends fly in on friday. yeah, exactly. yeah, exactly. well reminded read, but the problem is that there's some agreements in does meetings in the, in the assignments every year. you know, body follows it. and for this is one example in 2009 in a cop. i don't know, maybe a cops 12 or something like that. the western countries, the rich countries,

they committed, the pledged to a gave a $100000000000.00 a year to fight climate change to, to, to give to the developing countries a global south countries from 2020 on we are in 2023. guess how, how much the western countries gave to fight climate change to the global south 00. so that's the kind of thing that's happening. i mean, the western countries come with they are gender, come with they agreements, they flags things, but they never comply. so what, what, what, what does being say, of course, i mean, you're right we, we cannot depend of like a x or a or b presidents to fight this issue. we should have ancient national united nations should be doing that. but guess what? western countries, they don't follow united nations p r b on 90 nations. so that's the problem we have

. and if we go to the issues of developing development in the global south countries, i mean very recently, there was occasion uganda, uganda is, is trying to build a pipeline for oil to go to engineer and then to export to other countries. so there was a necessity of funding, of like, overall $10000000000.00. but at the end of the day, some of the environmental and deals from, from europe, coronado states start to put pressure on the banks on us bank through a pm banks. not to give money to the project and guess, guess who is going out and giving money. uh to again, to guess which country china could certainly say, i'm sorry, this is a problem. of course we need a transition of energy. fossil fuels can no longer be there for in the next 30 or

40 years, but the developing countries, they cannot have the same rules that apply to the western countries because they need to develop. yeah, i mean, western countries, they destroyed the planet for 200 years. they had been destroying the planet, and now they, they want us to pay the check. come on, john kerry recently said, and i talked about this a little while ago as i was presenting you that he promised uh, a committee and us congress that he will give no compensation. no kind of monies to any of the countries that are suffering from the climate change problems in the world. what do you think of him coming out and definitively making that statement that we're not here to be writing checks to these countries that are going through this problem? that's a hell of a pay. the is it is we can i give you some numbers and this is a, it's a very, it's a very famous already data about because i mean there's a, is a going to station a wall is data. they had been doing

a very comprehensive research about the carbon emissions of historically since 1751 since the industrial revolution. do you know who is the biggest polluter ever in the history? united states? i would get, oh, i was get a guest only because they've been added longer that it would be, uh, the bread. no, actually not. united states had emitted 25 percent of the carbon in, in the history in the last 200 something years. and europe, the $28.00 countries of european union, 22 percent. if were china because china is now the big, the big, the big feeling of the story, trying to hasn't meet at 12.7 percent. but of course, if you go to emissions per capita, i mean, you can compare chinese 1400000000 people. united states is how much 300 something needed. so, so that's the thing. western countries, if you go,

if you get north america in europe together, it's 62 percent of the carbon emissions in the history. so who is suppose to be pay this check? now, not agenda numbers. you know, south africa, marco fernandez, is a researcher with a tri continental institute for social research, and he's going to join us on the come back by the way, i'd like to continue this conversation with you. all we gotta do is go on to twitter. you can find me there. my handle. there's a rick sanchez tv. that's rick sanchez, tv. whether it's extra twitter, you can find me there and i'll see you there. when we come back though. here's what i want to talk about. is it true that china is the country that pollutes the environment the most? as we often hear the answer, when we come back, don't go away the

the, you know, as we come back, i was thinking it's quite common these days to hear politicians in the united states shouting a china for many more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than any nation in the world, we service all the time. i mean, they literally scream it, but it got me to think, is it fair to compare a country like china to ours? a country like china that by the way it has 4 times our population. so look what i found when i looked up the per capita, carbon dioxide emissions, less of countries at the very top in the united states, with double,

by the way, with china and bits. marco fernandez, is a researcher with a tri continental institute for us social research, and he's good enough to join us once again to have this conversation. so something recently happened which has seemed to put on hyper speed, the burning of combustibles all over the world. and it's pretty simple, it was when we historic sanctions against russia. and those sanctions caused a couple of things a big because the, the price of energy to go up. and as soon as the price of energy went up, then a lot of the countries in europe and the united states went in there and started buying and burning more. so those sanctions have actually ceased since it's been ridiculous to think about this, but those sanctions of actually increased and worse than the climate situation in the world. what do. ringback think of that. well, this is the price would be for disability of this war. so since the beginning, as we know, i mean it's not, it's not only, i mean,

thousands of people are dying. the economy of europe is collapsing, germany is downhill. and of course, every war makes 1st of all the wars already a big editor of, of carbon and, and of course, with us. crazy sanctions, as we know, i mean from you gay and gemini, going back to coal mines. it's crazy. going back to 19th century pieces. right? yeah, no, here's what they did it. yeah. here's it to your point. here's what they did in germany. they have this place where they have these wind farms. very famous part where they've been developing this wind farm project for many, many years now. and they just recently decided they're going to get rid of the wind farm and replace that very wind farm with more coal mines. so they're taking out the wind farm and putting in the coal mines up the same situation is going on with the e u where they're burning more and buying more fuel. same thing is happening to a certain mix that but maybe not as quite as clear with uh,

with the brands. so you ask yourself with these types of examples, what the hell is going on here? what a clear example of the policy is that then replacing, replacing the window, the black hole, hygiene monitoring, and one more thing just to put a little bit of spicy on your, on your point. let's go to the united states military. i mean, do you know what is the world single, largest, institutional, consumer, petroleum and the planet? this is called the department of defense. us military, united states, military is more, more polluter then, more local danbury been sweden than hungary den feeling. i mean, sweden, i'm talking about a very highly industrialized country, the department of defense, what's more carbon in the air in the planet then sweden, the whole sweden, together. so this is what's, what's, what's happening. i mean, there's

a documentary i think it's, it's about to be launch. i've seen the trailer from every morning, which is fine. but as a journalist, she's been doing a documentary on that. how much the u. s. military is cruelly up the planet climate. so, i mean, this is a kind of thing, i mean, and, you know, watch all the military's in the whole planet. they are, what does it call? i mean, they, they are, they don't have to comply with all these pairs agreements keel to agreements, the military, they have a free pass. they can do whatever they want. and many of the media charities of western countries as well. they don't even publish how much carbon they meeting. so this is a problem with that. yeah. because of course, yeah, that's classified information. let me ask you a question about the sanctions thing that i, that i was thinking about as i was listening to you. um,

do you think that which came 1st, right, the chicken or the, the, the, the western countries in the united states apply sanctions on russia. knowing that they would benefit economically from those sanctions. or did they apply to sanctions because of the war and ukraine? and then after they saw the result of the price of gas and everything going up, they said, wow, here's an opportunity. let's just jump on that opportunity. so it was, it was, it wasn't planned or was it coin since at this point break, i would say one thing that was in the united states knew is that with this move in ukraine, they would put europe on. they are nice. europe became a vessel of united states. i mean, up germany is paying the price. i mean, germany, how much germany now is spending with, with energy. like, i think like 4050 percent more because they don't have russian guys anymore. and

guess from who is they are buying mostly from united states, some also from them from india, which i also crazy. so russia, so. 5 else, oil to india, crude oil, india refines and sales to germany and falls, and hey, you know, here you k says crazy. yeah. and by the way, when you think about that, and those of you who maybe don't understand the geo politics of this, when, when you think about this is think of just in your head, look at a map of the world and look how far the united states is from germany, look at how far it would be to go it to draw a line from russia to india, and then back to either paris or berlin or any of those countries in europe. and now imagine that you could just take a north stream pipeline whether you're for a guest and i'm not pitching north stream here, i'm a journalist, but just look at just look at the math, right? and then just draw a line from the coast or from a border of russia into germany, going through the black sea or wherever. and you go, wait

a minute. this is crazy. why are they going halfway up on the world twice when they can simply just go from there to their hello directly. that's the sentence that we are leaving. and it's simply because they want to be able to get more clients for their product and their product is well. and if it means sanctions of it means more god, i hate to think that that's what they do. but is it possible that they knew? that's why i'm going back to this conversation. what came 1st, the chicken or the egg, right? what came 1st, the need or the sanctions? and in this case, i'm wondering if someone in the back room somewhere didn't sit down with whoever, probably not president biden, but somebody else and say, look, it, here's what's going to happen. if we put these sections on russia, we're going to end up making more money. so what the hell, let's do it. i mean, is it possible? well, these guys do math all the time, read much more than that. then we do marco, you're fantastic. thank so much for uh for,

for having this conversation with me. it makes for, it makes for real deep thinking. and it's a problem that we really need not as americans, not as chinese, not as brazilians, not as cubans, as we all need to get together is the people of this planet and figure relating to the bag of rank, right? that's a, yeah, it's a big packet. to be here always so before we go, i want to remind you of our mission. simple really. i want to try and be silo the world. say we've got to stop living in these little boxes. true. don't live in boxes. they are everywhere. i'm rick sanchez and i'll be looking for you again right here where i hope to provide a direct impact. the

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