so that's it for now, i'll be back to the top of the next hour. i do hope that you can join us then the the, the 2nd superseding and doesn't involve 18 charges, which include 17 charges under the espionage act and one charge under the c. s. a leasing dr. relates to the 2010, which he likes publication. so to collateral motor publication, the rules of engagement, rock the diplomatic cables, the whole long,

same respect of iraq and afghanistan, and the guantanamo bay files. we filed a legal challenge against that expedition, which was heard over the course of around 18 months. we raised concern about a piece of process related to the spine on us as his legal team, and on julian and his medical professionals. the way in which the united states is described, the facts in order to justify his expedition. we also raised concern about the application of the u. k. us treaty. that treaty prohibits extracting someone for a political offense. the united states has applied for his extradition, produced treat it as a criminal in this clause car or to this is, julian is a dangerous terrorist who's going to whip out on

a k installed gunning everyone down in the cold. i was sitting up in the gallery watching this astonishing spectacle of injustice and order to talk to his lawyers. he had to kneel down parentheses here to the cross so he could hear what they had to say and to talk. people's absurd. it makes it very difficult for us as easily the team to take instructions from join. when he's sitting behind us, we have to be constantly watching to see if he's got instructions on what's happening during the course of the hearing. and it's very difficult to talk to him in a secure and confidential way, because in order for him to communicate to us, he has to say it loud enough so that the people next to us can often hear it's our opposing counsel. that's unsatisfactory, of course. and while we made an application, now legal team identification during the course of the hearing to have him sit with them that was denied the miss

banes case of the case of the case brought against him. this is what i would call punishment by process. we are doing our best to push back on this using legal process, but it is incredibly political. and anyone who observes this case, or to recognize that this is a case that is political and it requires a political resolution the, it's not a legal battle at all. it's a political battle, it is based on hateful and spiteful revenge of a powerful entity that wants to get back of the individual who exposed the truth about it is that simple when the indictment against julia was updated actually just in case the intuitive allegations that julia was planning to her to is tons of infrastructure piece dropping on telephone conversation wisely from

members of parliament because they saw whole whole of that part of the indictment was they were trying to supported with his witness statement. so you told us and is the style witness for the united states and respect to the additional allegation. so add photos on was a we can use while and to was involved for a 10 months in 201011. and he's told one who from the organization. and when that was found out, he decided to offer his help as a witness for the f, b i. and to him for protection. what they did was so grotesque and so shameless. they used witnesses who later said they were lying. this was not accepted by the british gold. he is, according to court documents, a social above a sexual predator soon because boys that has been sentenced for violation against 10 miners. there is no credible factual basis for

a large part of the us as in diamond. and yet they are still pursuing. and it's just, i'm sure does. it's the case just because there is no cuz the it's the big picture of that. the labels with this incidences, the queue just one or 2 people. little little go on the street here with the old address and frequently going to click candy and so on from us troops. when the tanks goes boston for an explicable reasons, the sugar comes out of the us tank and um, is there a way to just sort of many of these are in

the each not on the list when it comes to content with the full impact of what's happening that we'd be coming gauge not just for that hits, but without hots, i'm the grandmother. and i think for people to be concerned about press freedom about democracy. sometimes it's, it's a concept and account necessarily relate to it. it's not going to bring them out on the streets. it's not going to, you know, to get them to go to their position. they're like a politician is, and will you have to bring a stop to this or by that the lives of our families are important to us to own?

and this just want to man is trying to present what he's saying is that if we knew the truth about was and they wouldn't happen, they wouldn't happen when people ask me about julian in which you weeks and the information they released, i say go to arrest task and iraqi ask mother is children were killed by a drunk strike, can have dentist, or pakistan, or somali or syria. what do you think of what you what julian, and once you weeks did was give a voice to those who are denied and fox, the goal is not completely subjugated. i found the goal is to use them to wash money out of the tax basis of united states out of the tax basis of european countries and then back into the hands of a transfer of social security. that is the goal. the goal is to have

success was a result of live vivian no more. and the worse for us involved goods was the results of the goals of painting. incident payments, either end date, the scenario and rebates. the 2nd and the german invasion of 2 can be constructed lines as can be started by line. please. kennedy started by turn. the,

i don't use the word prisons, they know he somewhere and where he doesn't want to be. i say, or going to where daddy is, it's strange how, how much, you know, in popular culture there are a lot of references to present. and so i don't know when it will click that that, that's a prison. i don't see the point of telling them the reality of the situation. the children's joins in a prison. i don't tell them that he's facing extradition. that he might be taken away from us. we ask you to do. we have is, is to make the most of the time we have together because we don't know how long we have together. so if these are the only memories they have their father, then it has to be as the lights and happy as possible. the

last month i went to visit my brother, julian, and bill must present that it's been a year since i had seen him last. i hugged him and he told me this place he was in was hale. i instantly instantly understood what he meant. a yellow inmates um band wound tightly around these exposed how nice he added. he had become underneath his baggy prison clothes off towards my daughter. wanted to know why or uncle was locked up. has he done something bad? that she asked? must struggle to explain in a way of 5 year old could understand visiting as a very, very precious. sorry, i'm a bit upset. yes,

so what, what do you finding myself thinking? well, you know, julian is of the gentle intellectual thing, a maximum security prison. i've taken so many steps for so many years and i feel like joins life might be coming to an end of 10 years of breaking someone down. i'm trying to destroy his life. somehow. everyone has failed to him. we have the right to live. and we have a right to come to an end once in the, the, the

the we have to do if we don't want to head towards nuclear, again, is trying to rush this price to try and make more account support whistle blowers support culture, jonas, and it's not clear where the fight stops or what's going to end it. but it's really clear that we have to keep fighting it. because we are all in the target harris here into the patient. is the principal purpose, most torture is being used against doing the phone just continued in the world. i'm sure to ever get the idea to expose our dirty laundry to the world. this is what's

gonna happen to you. it's a detainer. they're basically saying to people, you want to leak stuff, see what we did to search for you to choose your children. that it's a boxing or a good thing to say the truth. i have 2 children in primary school age. i cannot believe the world to them for when it has become a crime to tell the truth, i often put why. so try to impossible in the same position. i know it's impossible to keep going like this. he's kicked who had some terrible fox. his courage in keeping on doing his being the strong machine to say he showed us that it's possible for

a person to smoke pot or the power structure to stand up. so prince, so his principles, what he believes is right to and to be seamless, we ought to be asking serious questions about the nature about democracy and the quality about democracy. if we are willing to put a publisher in prison for life, for publishing information, that is one, john was in all of the world on the, on the the,

its sense of shooting message saying we are going into possibly extremely dock times. and we, oh, see the seekins all around this about the, the, the grow growing sizes, tendencies in many ways to fight for juvenile freedom is of symbolic fight against those tendencies. if we want to push back to the given group on our civilization and maintain it because it's some danger people off and off, what can i do? the answer is not so difficult to learn how the world works. challenge displacements, i mean tensions, of those who seek to control us behind a facade of democracy and demonic key, unites and calling purpose,

uncommon principles to design, build, document, finance, and defense. learn challenge act. now, just so that he is very good. so what rages on? well, and the individual i look for the only crime with others, incomplete information and effect infinity. and that is a small cost of more i would rates than it has is also an outrage in itself which he makes has performed the $6.00 troll tray public service. ready ready to and unfortunately i sent a message contributions to democracy. the case of julian, a sondra is really a microcosm of the crisis of our democracy, the constant and intimidation that we have in years, which is internalizing austin, internalizing joint years. so if i succeed,

then that will be the end of 1st freedom a cause know i've a journalist will be prepared to do the more he has done the rest against me. against our children. power corrupts and absolute power corrupts. absolutely. and if we don't have a watch on press, then we have an absolutely powerful authoritarian government that's on june and some nice rest of a 175 year sentence. so how much do you need? you know, how many violations against intervention we have to be exposed to people would just say, you know, for heaven's sake says test up. some have shown on the actual ongoing imprisonment of a journalist for doing this job. they are about to take every right away from you.

you will not be able to find one on the other, cause we're talking about the fundamentals. have the messages of truth to save. i as in ice, a nice who have cars to speak truth to power and cool out room doing where the of us. it's one thing to reach to watch, to witness to listen. it's another thing to find out voices. this is a radical action requiring a need to face impression and inspiration. so great that enables us to the come off fees. do we have anything to say? and the bravery to say to step up and spend them in the night stolen from this man? the grace to witnesses, children crying from babies to boys, to witness the look of julia on the face of his wife, in all the small monuments. yet the most priceless things these robust of rights

are taken from him, is not err, lights, space, voice, mine. the most treasured scene that can't be recovered. time down lines together to get out and drag out his out on the back of the house under the richard gag cross the rediscovered vest voice voice that once passed out of the womb of the universe into the world to pittsburgh as pratt and cried out with the agony and ecstatic rapture of the janine light, could we come out of buying voices that struggled at the gold of the millennia and for, for our freedoms. if we remember that truth was never meant to be silenced, the most just watch afraid to put even their little toe out of line in the march of

compliance most just watch as i set fire to the declarations of smoke and ashes, rise from the bonfire of our human rights most as one of them and della of our time walks on land, one to freedom every day, along to 6 meters. where's the most? just watch with the eyes for me shot as a really in mind. and so i'm in my face under so much pressure. she might just cry . and so things west and from generation to generation with century support to when young faces look up the us and say, what did you do for julian? well, we tell them that we just watched the since 2010 assault and just being held in progressively narrow. i dock cold

and cruel as spaces as he's freedom has become more confined so as outright to know as he is deprived of life. so while we deprived of access to truthful information as the dungeons of his captivity, nearer the window of time for us to protect the rights of future generations becomes more slender day by day 20 feet high, one made a mistake, and one my long present was of solid, concrete set point and mine from freedom, family, liberty, deliverance, sun and space. yet, this war is like done. on the sleeve of the mountains. we can move it with one hand sprang. it's enough for voices combined in how ex, how look forward and operates. and remember, i desire instinct and our right to be spring the way. when weeks fell from this

broken system, a channel, the water down which to this sense slaves the channel leads through a stream of innovation along the river of diligence to a lake of troops. the water on this lake was soon yeah m c. because remember we are we in by i don't like the true nature being revealed. they are trying to smash and mirror dry up the leaks unplugged to the source brush more so i can not be destroyed. like water information on waste, like water that will always be whistle blowers like water. like loves, like coverage. yes. this is a natural element of humanity. humanity

is a way to a chain of criminality to a 9 to drag in on the bottom of the ocean of lines. but there are some with this trend to cut the right to set. it's free. if there's a sign on the right side of history, it already has the words join us on christ. on the east, there's a gone in the theater showing it was his trial. it's metal the split from being wrong. so now the any stairs of the that is about to take flight, stretch her wings and roll the skies. nancy a piece stuff and no longer on equal. the feet had a river of lakes on his computer screen revealing their felonies on the choice of whether to publish the if you news of the implant is run by top 3 the old and see received come on if you knew that that would sky seemed to the end of the

if you knew that the rich angry old man type of monstrous back from a and venge for this. if the news at the hands of many 2 nights and a strong enough to move mountains. if you knew that we have an ability to realize that we've been to see to find and critically and profoundly and devastatingly, alton l, i's. then this is a trust for an incredibly bright trust for the and we other ones who i meant to be doing the catch or the,

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