if we can't afford it, there's no end in sight. sanctions against russia haven't worked. if anything they've helped to strengthen the russian economy and it's time to finish this and move on. so i think that incrementally, we're getting there. we are where we are, but there we also it has you said have to finish here. thank you very much for being with us today. thank you so much for the opportunity and thank you for watching hope this. there again, was a part of the, [000:00:00;00] the,

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in light of the unfolding tragedies in israel and gaza, the u. s has shifted its attention away from your crate. but america isn't the only one. ukraine's own neighbors just months ago, pledging unwavering support now, souring on key as, as fresh elections prove, the prolonged war in europe isn't as popular as it was sold. alright, let's get into the m o, the from the former soviet bloc states to be far this reaching west of france. little by little european support for a continued war effort in ukraine appears to be waning. led by growing right meaning sentiments among voters dissatisfied with their economic situation at home are now forcing political

a leads to reconsider spending tax payer funded military aid to ukraine. joining us to dig into this shift across europe. this is george sam willy. he is a writer and senior fellow at the global policy institute in london. he's the author of the book, bombs for peace, nato's humanitarian war on yugoslavia. he also has a daily pod cast with peter lovell called the gaggle. you can find them on locals, dot com. so 1st george, before we get into the former soviet bloc countries, i gotta address the 800 pound gorilla in the room. that is the u. s. who has been the biggest financial and military backer of ukraine. that gorilla appears to have shifted some days away from ukraine over now the israel after the loss attack on civilians in israel. proper national security council spokesman john kirby had this

to say about further funding. in the near term we've, we've got a appropriations and authorities for both ukraine in for israel. but you don't want to be trying to bake in long term support. when you're at the end of the rope and the in ukraine on the grant funding, we're, we're coming near to the end of the rope. i mean, today we announced $200000000.00 and, and we'll keep that a going it as long as we can. but it's, it's, it's not going to be indefinite. so are we moving with a sense of alacrity? absolutely. i couldn't give you a day certain on account. so what do you make of that comment and george has the us of band and cab. i really don't think so. i think he's referring to the impasse that has age but should be an achieve the in the house of representatives. there was a lot of opposition among um, republican congressman to any more assistance to ukraine. and so basically the by

the structures of the moment having real difficult is moving any kind of appropriation for ukraine. now that, that's on top of the preoccupation with the middle leaves obviously has put your grain on the backbone up. however, there's a majority in both the house and the senate to go on funding ukraine. there's other majority along the republican conference, but overall as, as the democrats are unanimous behind ukraine, and the republican senators are buying large with the, with the exception of like rampal, our j d vans that again, it in favor of sending more money to ukraine. so i think they are going to come up with the money. i mean the, the, the, the numbers of the support is there. but at the moment there is this impasse,

there isn't a house speaker. and uh and, and nobody really knows what's going to happen in the middle east. i mean, who knows this, this is could explode. uh, american uh, involvement, uh, could escalate. um, but my feeling is that ukraine is such a good gig for so many. uh, well see, well connected individuals in the united states, you know, obviously the um contract is the military industrial complex, the thing thing. so the funded by the military industrial complex of the finance is being bankrolled by the us government, a sense of business they going to be rebuilding ukraine. there's a lot of monetary financial interest tied up with ukraine. i don't think they just go to let it go and say, oh, i'll forget it. let's go on to something else. so i think give for the time be yeah, i think that the. ready no, there's no money for ukraine, but i think, you know,

within a few weeks there will be money to slovakia recently held parliamentary elections that found the former pm robert feet goes populist left party the smear. s as the winning and forming a coalition government rather quickly. their platform pledge to hold oh, military aid to ukraine, but they denied being pro russian. meanwhile, fetal has been known to refer to the russian foreign minister survey labrons as a dear friend. are these mixed signals coming from brought us lava, or do you think this accurately reflects the sentiments of the slovak in citizens? and i think it does reflect the silver, i guess, citizens. i think um, what the, the, the election showed um that is obamacare and in many european countries,

um, standard of living is going down. inflation is uh, on the rise um of the, the, there is a continuing search of migrants with governments not really able to cope with, with this uh, this flow of a migrant. um and people are really getting tired of this was because the war is impoverishing your opinions. uh and then ultimately the slovak is like the hung ariens are asking, well, what are we getting out of this? uh, so leave aside the question of, of the danger of the escalation or the danger of um, getting involved in this serious uh, shooting will uh with russia the vote is that just wondering what exactly are we getting out of this war and i think a fico, clearly wrote, you know,

spoke to this consent much as victor or bonded, but our band did that uh from the beginning. um and i think that the, the politicians, the leading politicians of europe like, you know, my crown or chunks of the shows. and of course, you know, the, uh, the, the head queen. uh, who's the left on their line. um they, they are preoccupied with ukraine, but they won't be able to explain in any way to the peoples of europe. what's, what's the need for them? why, why exactly? is this great commitment being made up for ukraine? what, what, what, what does the state say? why, why is it that we, that you were b as need to be fighting this war against russia in russia's back? yeah. you know how, how is anyone in your a benefit thing from it? so that's why fi eco says that we're not, we're not particularly well disposed towards russia. we're not particular friends

with russia. that's old, isn't it? the media, which spinet does. oh, he's pro russian. they say the same thing about or about his pro, rush them just complete nonsense 999. the fee to know or by is pro russian. they represent the people in the and they just simply say, this war makes very little sense. um, you know, and particularly if we hook steadily becoming poor, poor a standard of living is going down and then there's a when another winter's coming up could be a cold a winter last winter was mile. it's gonna be quite cold winter. where's the fuel good to come from? you know, we're ready. this is a triggering installation and other countries it's getting hotter and hotter to justify this. uh, ukraine. uh, cape, uh and uh, and i think that explains um

a fee goes victory. that was speaking. 8 the hon. gary and prime minister victor or bon. he has as some might describe it, gone against the needle grain in the way of ukraine support. i mean, not to mention within his own borders. promoting a very, socially conservative, you know christian values type of rhetoric, especially after us a id boss. samantha power made an unannounced visit to the country, or one has been strongly against the promotion of alternative lifestyles if you will. so this doesn't really a line with us and jan does for democracies, he's been criticized for not being strong enough against windermere putting in as well. despite of being an e. u and nato member state oregon doesn't appear to be on the same boat as the others. does this in effect put hungry back within the russian sphere of influence?

no, it really doesn't. um, hunger is a position is that you know, wow. in that kind of pro forma way, it supports the e u policy toward russia on ukraine. so sanctions getting biological hungry, suppose the sanctions policy of obviously condemning russia. so, um, at the same time hungry one, 0 you wait, we're going to have cuts out for ourselves. you know, we, we need oil, we need gas. we need to rush incorporation on the nuclear box. and we're going to go on signing agreements with russia and of that other. so we're just going to assign them in other agreement just the other day. so, and that's what gives you the position of, or by and then a c, r. so his foreign minister is that we will do whatever we need to do in favor of hon. gary and national interest. that's. that's our job. you know,

we were elected to work on behalf of hungary and we're going to do it. and now where we can agree with the, the you will agree with the you, but always eyes on what's in home. there is interest. now that is combined with or bonds position which is of this rule, but makes no sense. um, for the obvious reason, they said this many times ukraine cannot win this war. russia will not lose this was no way to rush or just simply accept defeat. so therefore, what is the logical a step that your of needs to take, which is to bring this more to an end, to essentially demand an immediate cease fire. me just as this, and that's it. and uh, but uh, your up is too weak. uh, to do anything like that united states calls the shots. so or bands view is not the

nothing much is going to happen until there's a change of government in the united states. and an oregon is explicit about this. donald trump or dance about because they says basically when trump resides, piece will be possible in ukraine and to him base is just if they book immediately just a ceasefire, you know, the to do anything just just, you know, bring, bring it to an end. so, and he's obviously, um, booking the trends within nato. but plato's problem with autobahn much as they find you absolutely detestable is that they don't know what to do with him because we're, we're just kicking him out because hunger is of life to be. so real estate and he's right there in central europe, you cannot just simply lose hungry and keep nature going. so you knows that he, you know, he can make all these states as he can. and, uh, they, uh, the,

the z u, nato. and it talked about samantha about samantha oversee just eps, if the lowes and lowes, they live, they sort of feed this philosophy. as you said, the social conservatism is essentially and i don't know whether you called at the anti america there's a but certainly um, and the democratic party is, i mean, i think that he ate the america of the good, the current democratic party. they would like to get him out. so they thought they had a shot in the election last year. he won by a landslide starting regular. they realize and i were banned as one full land slides and hungry. there's no one really to challenge and he's still a young man, so i know they think they're gonna have to live with a or band sometime. yeah. or bought isn't going anywhere. i mean, much in the same way that turkeys or long isn't moving either. so the political class just has to figure out how to work with them. all right,

coming up next. europe swing to the right from italy as georgia, maloney to germany's rising a of the party. and we'll discuss it when we return with drawers. and when we sit tight family, we'll be right back the the, the

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the welcome back to the m o m l a chance. all across the you're to the dismay of the you was recent elections at the local level. there are proving the populace right. victorious. is that an indicator that europeans are increasingly wrong? tired of american lectures ongoing, woke to george some way. thank you so much for sticking around with us. so let's talk more about this shift to the right. it's not a trend happening only in eastern european or central european states. i mean, if we look at austria, a similar shift in sentiment there, germany's a f d party gaining a lot of momentum. and of course, in france, america's oldest ally marine la penn. after losing a couple national elections, you know, instead of fading off into obscurity like the others, she's actually gaining in popularity. how do you read this move toward the populace? right. and what's that mean for ukraine and, and is this a projection of something,

george? i mean, what is that something was the regular question. i think it is a rejection of globalism. it is a rejection of liberalism, but liberalism is in terms of his social values. liberalism, and it's sort of back us, um, notion that there, there are no nations, there are no people's and you know, there's just a, there's a place you sit anywhere and then you just plug in the on the internet and it doesn't matter who you are, where you are, um they, uh, the ocean is, there's a sort of a, a rich comfortable lead that is constantly getting well. so you know, that this price is off the crisis people up becoming impoverished. but this leads is continually getting wealthier and welfare and aggregating more. and more power to itself. so you know, everyone. so what happens during cove it, when again,

you know, the wealthy, don't even wealthy and much, much wealth you and tower, uh, who used to governments as a manufactured, a crisis generated hysteria. and this actually, you know, done europe into a kind of a version of china and, or communist china. and i wrote a lot of people being locked into their homes. i mean, it was like, it was a clearly, a, a, a deliberate project. the german foreign minister annalynne a bare bach of the greens. she has been an artist and vocal supporter of ukraine, staunchly anti russian. many say she's even over run the the actual chancellor, olaf schultz, and his s p. d. party of the same party of ongoing local. but recent local elections in germany have found all other major parties on their back foot with the rise of a f. d. f. d is pulling nationally between 19 and 23 percent. well above any of the other parties, the s p

d that ftp and certainly the greens they currently make up the existing coalition government there. this couldn't really shake the balance of power in germany in the next general elections. your thoughts on this? i mean germany on the national level. well, that's very interesting because um they all of the political bodies, all of their respectable establishment bought as the christian democrats of social democrats, the greens, the ftp label said no, absolutely. we will never cooperate with the amc. nope. no co operation. irrespective of how well they do, we simply will not operate. well, if you go down that path, then that just into the a of the will continue to grow in strength. and uh and, and then you have, people will become more more resentful that your just essentially blocking out from power the very sizable move. i mean, the idea, you know,

let's say 23 percent. let's say it goes up to 25 percent. so it's actually 25 percent of the german electric would just be, you know, that just we just don't going to pay any attention to the desires. that's not a recipe for a successful stage craft. and in particular, given german economic decline and john is um, you know, in recession um the, the, the basis of german economic strength is the big trucks. one that was uh, that was a cheap source of energy. they were getting this a cheap energy from rush or that was in the that work so well for germany now they're not getting any of the, um, the, the, with the north stream, you know, nothing that isn't flowing anymore. and then schoultz was humiliated by the destruction of this gas pipeline. so in either your great ally, the united states blew it up, which doesn't say much for you is the if,

if the americans can just blow up your own source of energy. well, you know, as the americans and the german governments claim it was the ukrainians, who did well, it doesn't say much, we'll great how i ukraine. either way you look ridiculous is a stupid and your economy is thinking, you know, this is, you know, this is what german is famous for. his great big sports industry is only gets causes pharmaceuticals. it's chemicals that some of it's consumer products and then they, they get german of goods renounced rob and what else will that quantity if that's gone, what else does germany have? and so i think that uh, to insist in those circumstances. well, we're just going to continue to hold onto power. you know, we, you know, establishment boxes and we're going to keep out of the, the, into local, the, a of the national recipe for success. i mean,

you can keep somebody out if you're doing a good job, you know, for these. so, you know, the german economy is uh, thriving, but if german economies the time and the germans are like these bavarian, i got to thinking, hey, well, what's happened to a successful, prosperous livestock? i mean then, you know, it's, it's disappearing. then i'll give it take kindly to that. so um, i think that program of just simply blocking a of the from power. i think it's due to say the a and the that doesn't mean that they're not going to go down that box. but it's, it's one that's going to lead eventually to a very serious political crisis in germany. now let's head down to romania. president zelinski was actually denied the opportunity to speak before that countries parliament. he got the same rejection treatment by kevin mccarthy. some months ago when he asked to speak before the us congress. now up until this point, romania has been happy to follow along the anti russia pro ukraine sentiment. but

is romania also souring on ukraine? because if pulling in romania sour on ukraine, that's really bad news for kids. there are countries share the largest borders with ukraine and, and worth mentioning, the historical and territorial claims to current de ukrainian territory. what do you make of all of that? a yeah, no question. um romania like hunger a. um and uh, unlike phone and of course uh, last x ray um, after world war 2 to you crate and i mean it was basically the old hungry romanian poland. had directory sliced off and added to what was in the soviet union. but then basically it was inherited by ukraine and of course or romanian. some living in the ukraine. i'm so, but again, i think it, it is

a case of the the public in romania as is the lock it as an under is salary. so you know that they, they don't see any real a conclusion to this war and they're getting it. so it's getting tie as of the whole landscape, stick with, you know, with his wearing those ridiculous fatigues. i mean, the guys on the miller trip us allies wearing these bo trip fatigues, i arriving, but essentially is a kind of a begging bowl. i mean, you know, you know, i want to give me more, i need more. um, so the, the, the, i think the, the remaining as far as does it relate is quite concerned about getting sucked into this war against. it's in the neighborhood just like it was like is right in the neighborhood. and so if this war continues to escalate it who gets sucked in, you know, you could be in the line of fire and, and i think that they really are not happy with it. i mean,

are you looking ways look about eastern europe, there are plenty of the, those easier fans or apps or the dimensions. i mean, they, you know, they, they, they, the baltic states, you know, they use every day they wake up and saying, you know, how can i then tagging eyes the russians even more today what, what can i, do you know, what, what um, what statues can i take down, you know, what, what the red army symmetry is. can i dislike rate? you know, just just do it and the way the russians all the more. so you know that that's, that's the way they, they, they operate and then they say, oh, we're really afraid to rush or, you know, so you know, the so afraid that we're going out of our way to entangle nice them. and every moment will that they use. so you have those a safe but you also have you know like romania like hungry and slovakia. they don't see that way. they don't, they don't receive the interest. i dine up with continually antagonizing rochelle. every young in the may not like russia very much of

a not knowing who liked the much, but they don't see any reason to be continually antagonizing them. so that's why i think, but some, uh, zaleski hasn't realize that there's a moment in which you know, he is out stages. welcome and i think that's i think what happened in romania, george, them. well a thank you for that always of fun chat. george is a writer and senior fellow at the global policy institute in london, author of the book called bombs for peace nato's humanitarian war on yugoslavia. and make sure you check out his daily pod cast with peter labelle, called the gaggle. find them on locals, dot com. all right, and that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila. chad. thank you

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