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on me will be in hot seats. in 30 minutes to keep you up to date with all the very latest. well news. thank you for your company. the hello. i'm into la chan. you are tuned in the modus operandi, in light of the unfolding tragedies in israel and gaza, the u. s. has shifted its attention away from you crate. but america isn't the only one. ukraine's own neighbors just months, a go pledging on wavering support, now, souring on key as, as fresh elections prove, the prolonged war in europe isn't as popular as it was sold. all right, let's get into the m o, the,

from the former soviet bloc states to be far this reaching west of france. little by little european support for a continued war effort in ukraine appears to be waning. led by growing right meaning sentiments among voters dissatisfied with their economic situation at home are now forcing political leads to reconsider sending tax payer funded military aid to ukraine. joining us to dig into this shift across europe. this is george sam welly. he is a writer as senior fellow at the global policy institute in london. he's the author of the book, bombs for peace, nato's humanitarian war on yugoslavia. he also has a daily pod cast with peter lavelle called the gaggle. you can find them on locals, dot com. so 1st, george dale, we get into the former soviet bloc countries. i gotta address the 800 pound gorilla

in the room. that is the west who has been the biggest financial and military backer of ukraine. that gorilla appears to have shifted up some gays away from ukraine over now to israel after the mazda attack on civilians in israel. proper national security council spokesman john kirby had this to say about further funding in the near term with. we've got the appropriations and authorities for both ukraine n for israel. but you don't want to be trying to bake in long term support when you're at the end of the rope and the in ukraine on the crank funding we're, we're coming near to the end of the rope. i mean, today we announced $200000000.00 and we'll keep that a going it as long as we can. but it's, it's, it's not going to be indefinite. so, are we moving with a sense of alacrity? absolutely. i couldn't give you a date certain on account. so what do you make of that comment and george has been

us a band and cab. i really don't think so. i think he's referring to the game pass that has age but should be an achieve the in the house of representatives. there is a lot of opposition among um, republican congressman to any more assistance to ukraine. and so basically the by the structures of the moment having real difficult is moving any kind of appropriation for ukraine. now, means that that's on top of the preoccupation with the mit lease, obviously has put ukraine on the backbone up. however, there's a majority in both the house and the senate to go on funding ukraine. there's not a majority among the republican conference,

but overall as, as the democrats are unanimous behind ukraine. and the republican senators are by and large, whether they meet with the exception of like rampal or j d vans that again in favor of sending more money to ukraine. so i think they are going to come up with the money. i mean the, the, the, the numbers of the support is that, but at the moment there is the same pass. there isn't the house speaker, and, uh, and, and nobody really knows what's going to happen in the latest. i mean, who knows this, this is good, explode, uh, american uh, involvement, uh, could escalate. um, but my feeling is that ukraine is such a good gig for so many. uh, well see you well connected individuals in the united states. you know, obviously the honest contract is the military industrial complex, the think things that are funded by the military industrial complex. uh the, uh,

finance is being bankrolled by the us government extensive, are they going to be rebuilding ukraine? there's a lot of monetary financial interests tied up with ukraine. i don't think they just go to let it go and say, oh, i'll forget it. let's go on to something else. so i think give for the time be. yeah, i think that the there's no, there's no money for ukraine, but i think, you know, within a few weeks there will be money to slovakia recently held parliamentary elections. the found, the former pm robert feet goes populous left party, this mer, s as the winning and forming a coalition government rather quickly. their platform pledge to hold oh, military aid to ukraine. but they denied being pro russian. meanwhile, fetal has been known to refer to the russian foreign minister survey line problems

as a dear friend. are these mix signals coming from brought us lava, or do you think this accurately reflects the sentiments of the slovak in citizens? and i think it does reflect the silver i guess, citizens i think um what the in that election showed um that is the law care and in many european countries, um, standard of living is going down. inflation is uh, on the rise um of the, the, there is a continuing search of migrants with governments not really able to cope with, with this uh, this flow of, uh, migrant. um and people are really getting tired of this was because the war is impoverishing. europeans, uh and then ultimately the slovak is like the hungarians are asking, well, what are we getting out of this?

uh, so leave aside the question of, of the danger of the escalation and the danger of, um, getting involved in this serious shooting. well, with russia, the vote is that just wondering what exactly are we getting out of this war and i think a fico, clearly, you know, spoke to this consent much as victo or bonded but urban did that uh from the beginning. um, and i think that the, the politicians, the leading politicians of europe like, you know, my crown or chunks of the shows. and of course, you know, the, uh, the, the head queen. uh, stuff on their line. um, they, they preoccupied with ukraine, but they won't be able to explain in any way to the peoples of europe. what's, what's that for them? why?

why exactly. is this great commitment being made up for ukraine? what, what, what, what are the stakes a, why, why is it that we, that the europeans need to be fighting this war against russia, in russia's back? yeah. you know how, how is anyone in your a benefit thing from it? so that's why fi eco says that we're not, we're not particularly well disposed towards russia when a particular friends with russia. that's old, isn't it? the media which spin it as oh, he's pro russian. they say the same thing about or about his progress from just complete nonsense 999. the fee to know or by is pro russian. they represent the people and they, and they just simply say, this war makes very little sense. um, you know, and particularly if we hook steadily becoming poor, poor a standard of living is going down and then there's

a when another winter coming up could be a cold a winter last winter was mile. it's gonna be a quite cold winter. um, with the uh, the fuel good to come from, you know, we're ready. this is a triggering installation and other countries it's getting hotter and hotter to justify this. uh, ukraine. uh, cape up and uh, and i think that explains um a fee goes victory. that was speaking of the hon, gary and prime minister victor or bon, he has, as some might describe it, gone against the nato grain in the way of ukraine support. i mean, not to mention within his own borders, promoting a very, socially conservative, you know christian values type of rhetoric, especially after us a id boss. samantha power made an unannounced visit to the country, or one has been strongly against the promotion of alternative lifestyles. if you will, so this doesn't really a line with us and jan does for democracies,

he's been criticized for not being strong enough against windermere, put in as well. despite being an e. u. a. nato member state, oregon doesn't appear to be on the same boat as the others. does this in effect, put hungary back within the russian sphere of influence? no, it really doesn't. um, hunger is a position is that, you know, wow. in that kind of pro forma way, it supports the e u policy toward russia on ukraine. so sanctions didn't, biological hungry. suppose the sanctions policy of obviously condemning russia. so at the same time, hunger is one. 0, you wait, we're going to have cuts out for ourselves. you know, we, we need oil, we need gas. we need to rush incorporation on the usually

a box. and we're going to go on signing agreements with russia. and, you know, this is just on the sign in other agreement just the other day. so, and that's what you're the position of, or by and then a c, r. so his foreign minister is that we will do whatever we need to do in favor of hon. gary and national interest that's, that's our job. you know, we were elected to work on behalf of hungary and we're going to do it. and now where we can agree with the, the you will agree with the you. but boy's eyes on what's in home. there is interest now that is combined with or bonds, position which is of this war makes no sense. for the obvious reason, they said this many times ukraine cannot win this war rush. you will not lose. this was no way to rush or just simply accept defeat. so therefore,

what is the logical a step that your needs to take, which is do bring this more to an end, to uh, essentially demand an immediate cease fire major um is this and that's it. and uh, but uh, your best 2 week uh, to do anything like that. united states calls the shots. so bands view is nothing, nothing much is going to happen until there's a change of government in the united states. and, and oregon is explicit about this. donald trump or dunce about because they says basically when trump for its audience piece will be possible in ukraine and through him basically just a big book immediately just a ceasefire. you know, don't, don't do anything just just, you know, bring, bring it to an end. so, and he's obviously, um, booking the trends within nato. but plato's problem with oregon much as they find

you absolutely detestable is that they don't know what to do with him because we're, we're just kicking him out because hunger is of life to be. so real estate and he's right there in central europe, you cannot just simply lose hungry and keep nature going. so you knows that he, you know, he can make all these states as he can. and uh, the uh, the, the, the, you, nato, and it talked about samantha patterson, i oversee just opposite the lowest and low as they live. they sort of feed this philosophy. as you said, the social conservatism is essentially and i don't know whether you called at the anti america there's about certainly um, and the democratic party is, i mean, i think that he ate the america all the good, the current democratic party. they would like to get him out. so they thought they had his shots in the election last year. he won by a landslide,

so i think they get, they realize now we're bound as one for land slides and hungry. there's no one really to challenge him. he's still a young man, so i know they think they're gonna have to live with a or band sometime. yeah. or bought isn't going anywhere. i mean, much in the same way that turkey is or one isn't moving either. so the political class just has to figure out how to work with them. all right, coming up next. europe swing to the right from italy as georgia, maloney to germany's rising a of the party. and we'll discuss it when we return with doors. and when we sit tight, famel will be right back. the the in 1941 with the nazis health creation ultra nationalist,

the massages proclaimed the independent state of croatia. shortly on the seizing palace, they built the scene of us concentration camp, a place associated with the worst atrocities committed in yugoslavia during we'll go to use dashes, use the cam system to isolate and exterminate subs, roma, jews, and other non catholic minorities and political opponents of the fascist regime conditions in the scene of us come when the gods tortured to arise and the prisoners they sent them the constitution temps. so most of them died. it was incredible genocide. the walking back to the m. o. m l a chance all across europe. to the dismay of the west recent elections at the local level,

there are proving the populace right. victorious. is that an indicator that europeans are increasingly wrong? tired of american lectures ongoing woke to george some way. thank you so much for sticking around with us. so let's talk more about the shift to the right. it's not a trend happening only in eastern european or central european states. i mean, if we look at austria, a similar shift and sentiment there, germany's a f d party gaining a lot of momentum. and of course, in france, america's oldest ally marine la pen. after losing a couple national elections, you know, instead of fading off into obscurity like the others, she's actually gaining in popularity. how do you read this move toward the populace? right. and what's that mean for ukraine and, and is this a projection of something, george? i mean, what is that something was a good question. i think it is

a rejection of globalism. it is a rejection of liberalism, but liberalism is in terms of his social values. liberalism, and it's sort of back us, um, notion that there, there are no nations, there are no people's and you know, there's just a, there's a place you sit anywhere and then you just plug in and on the internet and it doesn't matter who you are, where you are, um they, uh, the ocean is, there's a sort of a, a rich comfortable lead that is constantly getting well. so you know, that this price is off the crisis. people are becoming impoverished. but this leads is continually getting wealthier and welfare and aggregating more. and more power to itself. so you know, everyone. so what happened during cove is when again, you know, the wealthy, don't even wealthy and much, much welfare and tall. uh, who used to governments as a manufactured

a crisis to generate that hysteria. and this actually, you know, done europe into a kind of a version of china and, or communist china. and i wrote a lot of people being locked into their homes. i mean, it was like, it was a clearly, a, a, a deliberate project. the german foreign minister analynn a bare bach of the greens and she has been an artist and vocal supporter of ukraine, staunchly anti russian. many say she's even over run the the actual chancellor. lock schultz and his s p d party. the same party of ongoing local, but recent local elections in germany have found all other major parties on their back foot with the rise of a f d. i. if the is pulling nationally between 19 and 23 percent, well above any of the other parties, the s p d that ftp and certainly the greens they currently make up the existing coalition

government there. this couldn't really shake the balance of power in germany in the next general elections. your thoughts on this, i mean germany on the national level. well, that's very interesting because um they all of the political bodies, all of their respectable establishment bought as a christian democrats. the social democrats, the greens, the ftp, they've all said no, absolutely. and we will never cooperate with the a if the nope, no co operation irrespective of how well they do, we simply will not operate. well, if you go down that path, then that just into the a of the will continue to grow in strength and uh, and, and then you have people will become more and more resentful that your just essentially blocking out from power the very sizable move. i mean, the idea, you know, let's say 23 percent, let's say it goes up to 25 percent. so it's actually 25 percent of the german electric would just be, you know, but just,

we're just not going to pay any attention to the desires. that's on a risk that the, for a successful stage craft. and in particular, given german economic decline. and john is um, you know, in recession um the, the, the basis of german economics, frank, this, the big trucks, one that was uh, that was a cheap source of energy. they were getting this a cheap energy from rush or that was in the, that work. so well for germany now they're not getting any of the, um, the, the, with the north stream, you know, nothing that is flowing anymore. and then schoultz was humiliated by the destruction of this gas pipeline. so in either your great ally, the united states blew it up, which doesn't say much for you is the if the americans can just blow up your own source of energy. well, you know,

as the americans and the german governments claim it was the ukrainians, who did well, it doesn't say much, we'll great how i ukraine. either way, you look ridiculous is a stupid and your economy is thinking, you know, this is, you know, this is what germany's famous for his great big sports industry is only gets cause is pharmaceuticals. it's chemicals that some of it's consumer products. i mean, is they, they get german of goods renowned throughout the world for their quantity. if that's gone. well, what else is germany? a half? and so i think that to insist in those circumstances. well, we're just going to continue to hold onto power. you know, we, you know, establishment boxes and we're going to keep out of the, the, into local, the, a, of the national recipe for success. i mean, you can keep somebody out if you're doing a good job, you know, for these. so, you know, the german economy is a thriving, but if german economies,

the time came and the germans were like these bavarian, i got to thinking, hey, well, what's happened to a successful, prosperous livestock? i mean then, you know it's, it's disappearing. they're not going to take kindly to that. so um, i think that program of just simply blocking a of the from power. i think it's due to say the a and the that doesn't mean that they're not going to go down that box. but it's, it's one that's gonna lead eventually to a very serious political crisis in germany. now let's head down to romania. president zelinski was actually denied the opportunity to speak before that countries parliament. he got the same rejection treatment by kevin mccarthy. some months ago when he asked to speak before the us congress. now up until this point, romania has been happy to follow along the anti rush pro ukraine sentiment. but is romania also souring on ukraine? because if pulling romania sour on ukraine,

that's really bad news for kids. there are countries share the largest borders with ukraine and, and was mentioning the historical and territorial claims to current de ukrainian territory. what do you make of all of that? yeah, no question. um romania like hunger a. um and uh, unlike phone and of course uh, last x ray um, after world war 2 to ukraine, i mean it was basically like a little over hungry romanian. poland. uh, had territory sliced off and added to what was in the soviet union, but then basically it was inherited by ukraine and of course are uh romanians. ringback living in the ukraine. um so but again, i think it, it is a case of the the public in romania as is the lock it as an under is salary. um, you know that they, they don't see any real

a conclusion to this war and they're getting it so it's getting tie as of the whole zalinski shake with a, with his wearing those ridiculous fatigues. i mean, the guys, on the middle trip us, i was wearing these bo truth fatigues, i arriving, but essentially, is that kind of a begging bowl. i mean, you know, you know, i want to give me more. i need more. um, so the, the, the, i think the remaining as far as does it relate, is quite concerned about getting sucked into this war against. it's in the neighborhood just like, you know, so back is right in the neighborhood. so if this war continues to escalate it who gets sucked in, you know, you could be in the line of fire and i think that they re, i'm not happy with it. i mean, you know, in west lake about eastern europe, there are community of the, those ethiopians or apps or the dimensions. i mean,

they, you know, they, they, they look the baltic states, you know, they like for every day they wake up and saying, you know, how can i then tagging eyes the russians even more today? what, what can i, do you know, what, what, what, what stacked use can i take down? you know, what, what to read on the senator is, can i dislike rate, you know, just just do it and the way the russians all the more. so you know that that's, that's the way they, they, they operate and then they say, oh, we're really afraid to rush. right. you know, so you know the so afraid that we're going out of our way to entangle nice them and every moment so that they use. so you have those a safe but you also have you know like romania like hungry and slovakia. they don't see that way, they don't, they don't receive the interest. i dine up with continually antagonizing rochelle. every unit in the may not like russia very much of a not number like number up there much, but they don't see any reason to be continually antagonizing them. so that's why i

think, but some uh, zaleski hasn't realized that there's a moment in which you know, he is outside his welcome and i think that's i think what happened in romania, george saying, well a thank you for that. always a fun chat. george is a writer and senior fellow at the global policy institute in london, author of the book called bombs for peace nato's humanitarian war on yugoslavia. and make sure you check out his daily pod cast with peter labelle, called the gaggle. find them on locals, dot com. all right, that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manella chance. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m o the

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