tv The Modus Operandi RT December 18, 2023 6:30pm-7:01pm EST
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hello, i'm in l. a. chan. you are tuned into modus operandi in light of the unfolding tragedies in israel and gaza. the u. s. has shifted its attention away from you crate. but america isn't the only one. ukraine's own neighbors just months ago, pledging unwavering support now, souring on key as, as fresh elections prove, the prolonged war in europe isn't as popular as it was sold. alright, let's get into the m o, the from the former soviet bloc states to be farthest reaching west of france. little by little european support for a continued war effort in ukraine appears to be waning. led by growing right
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meaning sentiments among voters dissatisfied with their economic situation at home are now forcing political a leads to reconsider spending tax payer funded military aid to ukraine. joining us to dig into this shift across europe. this is george sam welly. he is a writer as senior fellow at the global policy institute in london. he's the author of the book, bombs for peace, nato's humanitarian war on yugoslavia. he also has a daily pod cast with peter lavelle called the gaggle. you can find them on locals, dot com. so 1st george, before we get into the former soviet bloc countries, i gotta address the 800 pound gorilla in the room. that is the u. s. who has been the biggest financial and military backer of ukraine. that gorilla appears to have shifted up some gays away from ukraine over now to israel after the mazda attack on
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civilians in israel. proper national security council spokesman john kirby had this to say about further funding in the near term with. we've got the appropriations and authorities for both ukraine in for israel. but you don't want to be trying to bake in long term support when you're at the end of the rope and the in ukraine on the crank funding we're, we're coming near to the end of the rope. i mean, today we announced $200000000.00 and we'll keep that a going it as long as we can. but it's, it's, it's not going to be indefinite. so, are we moving with a sense of alacrity? absolutely. i couldn't give you a date certain on account. so what do you make of that comment and george has the us of band and cab. i really don't think so. i think he's referring to the game pass that has age, but should be an achieve the in the house of representatives. there is
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a lot of opposition among um, republican congressman to any more assistance to ukraine. and so basically, the biden instructions at the moment, having real difficulty is moving any kind of appropriation for ukraine. now, means that that's on top of the preoccupation with the mit lease, obviously has put ukraine on the backbone up. however, there's a majority in both the house and the senate to go on funding ukraine. there's not a majority among the republican conference, but overall as, as the democrats are unanimous behind ukraine. and the republican senators are by and large with the, with the exception of like rampal or j. d. vans that again, in, in favor of a sending more money to ukraine. so i think they are going to come up with the
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money. i mean the, the, the, the numbers of the support is there, but at the moment there is the same pass. there isn't the house speaker, and, uh, and, and nobody really knows what's going to happen in the latest. i mean, who knows this, this is, this could explode. american uh, involvement, uh, could escalate. um, but my feeling is that ukraine is such a good gig for so many uh, well see, well connected individuals in the united states. you know, obviously the um contract is the military industrial complex, the thing things that are funded by the military industrial complex. uh the, uh, finance is being bankrolled by the us government expensive bids, are they going to be rebuilding ukraine? there's a lot of monetary financial interest tied up with ukraine. i don't think they just go to let it go and say, oh,
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i'll forget it. let's go on to something else. so i think give for the time be. yeah, i think that the there's no, there's no money for ukraine, but i think, you know, within a few weeks there will be money to slovakia recently held parliamentary elections. the found, the former pm robert feet goes populous left party, this mer, s as the winning and forming a coalition government rather quickly. their platform pledge to hold oh, military aid to ukraine. but they denied being pro russian. meanwhile, fetal has been known to refer to the russian foreign minister survey labrons as a dear friend. are these mixed signals coming from brought us lava, or do you think this accurately reflects the sentiments of the slovak in citizens? and i think it does reflect the silver i guess, citizens i think um what the in that election showed um that is obamacare
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and in many european countries, um, standard of living is going down. inflation is uh, on the rise um of the that there is a good continuing surge of migrants with governments not really able to cope with with this uh, this flow of a migrant. um and people are really getting tired of this was because the war is impoverishing. europeans, uh, and ultimately the slovak is like the hung ariens are asking, well, what are we getting out of this? uh, so leave aside the question of, of the danger of the escalation and the danger of, um, getting involved in this serious shooting. well, with russia, the vote is that just wondering what exactly are we getting out of this war and i
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think a fico, clearly wrote, you know, spoke to this consent much as victo or bonded. but our band did that from the beginning. um, and i think that the, the politicians, the leading politicians of europe like, you know, my crown or john. so the shows and of course, you know, the, the, the head queen who's the left on their line. so they, they're preoccupied with ukraine, but they won't be able to explain in any way to the peoples of europe. what's, what's that for them? why? why exactly. is this great commitment being made up for ukraine? what, what, what, what are the stakes a, why, why is it that we, that you were b as need to be fighting this war against russia? in russia's back?
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yeah. you know how, how is anyone in your a benefit thing from it? so that's why fi co says that we're not, we're not particularly well disposed towards russia. we're not particular friends with russia. that's old, isn't it? the media? which spinet as oh, he's pro russian. they say the same thing about or about his pro references complete nonsense 999. the fee to know or by is pro russian. they represent the people in the and they just simply say, this war makes very little sense. um, you know, particularly if we hook steadily becoming poor, poor a standard of living is going down and then there's a when another winter's coming up could be a cold winter. last winter was mile. it's gonna be quite cold winter. i'm with the, the, the fuel going to come from the other. we're ready. this is a triggering installation and other countries it's getting hotter and hotter to
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justify this. uh, ukraine. uh, cape, uh and uh, and i think that explains um a fee goes victory. that was speaking of the hon, gary and prime minister victor or bon, he has, as some might describe it, gone against the nato grain in the way of ukraine support. i mean, not to mention within his own borders, promoting a very, socially conservative, you know christian values type of rhetoric, especially after us a id boss. samantha power made an unannounced visit to the country, or one has been strongly against the promotion of alternative lifestyles. if you will, so this doesn't really a line with us and jan does for democracies, he's been criticized for not being strong enough against windermere, put in as well. despite of being an e. u. a. nato member state, oregon doesn't appear to be on the same boat as the others. does this in effect,
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put hungary back within the russian sphere of influence? no, it really doesn't. um, hunger is a position is that, you know, wow. in that kind of pro forma way, it supports the e u policy toward russia on ukraine. so sanctions get biological hungry. suppose the sanctions policy of obviously condemning russia. so um at the same time, hunger is one. 0, you wait, we're going to have cutouts for ourselves. you know, we, we need oil, we need gas. we need to rush incorporation on the usually a box. and we're going to go on signing agreements with russia. and you know, this, we're just going to sign in other agreement just the other day. so, and that's the, is, you know, the position of or by then a c, r. so his farm and is that is that we will do whatever we need to do
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in favor of fund gary and national interest. that's. that's our job. you know, we were elected to work on behalf of hungary and we're going to do it. and now where we can agree with the, the you will agree with the you, but always eyes on what's in home. there is interest. now that is combined with or bonds, position which is of this war makes no sense. for the obvious reason. they said this many times, ukraine cannot win this war rush, you will not lose this was no way to rush or just simply accept the fee. so therefore, what is the logic go a step, but your needs to take, which is do bring this more to an end to uh, essentially demand an immediate cease fire major. um is this and that's it. and uh,
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but uh, your up is too weak. uh, to do anything like that united states calls the shots. so bands view is not the nothing much is going to happen until there's a change of government in the united states. and, and oregon is explicit about this. donald trump or dance about because they says basically when trump for tons piece will be possible in ukraine and to him basically just if they book immediately just a ceasefire, you know, the to do anything just just, you know, bring, bring it to an end. so, and he's obviously, um, booking the trends within nato. but plato's problem with oregon much as they find you absolutely detestable is that they don't know what to do with him because we're, we're just kicking him out. because hunger is a vital piece of real estate. and he's right there in central europe, you cannot just simply lose hungry and keep nature going. so you knows that
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he, you know, he can make all these states as he can. and uh, the uh, the, the, the, you, nato, and it talked about samantha, possible, oversee just opposite the lowest and low as the, uh, the sort of fee this, um, uh, philosophy, as you said, the social conservatism is essentially and i don't know whether you called at the anti america, there's about certainly um, and the democratic party is, i mean, i think that he ate the america all the good, the current democratic party. they would like to get him out. so they thought they had a shot in the election last year. he won by a landslide, so i think they get, they realize now we're bound as one full land slides and hungry. there's no one really to challenge him. he's still a young man, so i know they think they're gonna have to live with a or band sometime. yeah. or bought isn't going anywhere. i mean,
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much in the same way that turkey is or one isn't moving either. so the political class just has to figure out how to work with them. all right, coming up next. europe swing to the right from italy as georgia, maloney to germany's rising a of the party. we'll discuss it when we return with doors, and when we sit tight, famel will be right back the the, [000:00:00;00]
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the ukraine that makes the west illusion also slows. and now right, dangerous, your claim will never be a member of nato. your plane will probably never be part of the european union. western pursuit of both goals has little to do with ukraine, actually separate browser patriot or brush the welcome back to the m o m l a chance. all across europe. to the dismay of the west recent elections at the local level,
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there are proving the populace right. victorious. is that an indicator that europeans are increasingly wrong? tired of american lectures ongoing woke to george some way. thank you so much for sticking around with us. so let's talk more about the shift to the right. it's not a trend happening only in eastern european or central european states. i mean, if we look at austria, a similar shift in sentiment there, germany's a f d party gaining a lot of momentum. and of course, in france, america's oldest ally, marine la, penn. after losing a couple national elections, you know, instead of fading off into obscurity like the others, she's actually gaining in popularity. how do you read this move toward the populace? right. and what's that mean for ukraine and, and is this a projection of something, george? i mean, what is that? something was very good question. i think it is a rejection of globalism. it is
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a rejection of liberalism, but liberalism, in terms of his social values, liberalism, and it's sort of back us, um, notion that there, there are no nations, there are no people's and you know, there's just, it was a place you sit anywhere and then you just plug in the on the internet and it doesn't matter who you are, where you are. um they, uh, the ocean, there's a sort of a, a rich comfortable lead that is constantly getting well. so you know that this price is off the crisis. people up becoming impoverished, but this'll lead is continually getting wealthier and welfare and aggregating more and more power to itself. so you know, everyone. so what happens during cove it, when again, you know, the well see, don't even well see it much, much, well, see you on tower. uh, who used to, uh, governments, as a uh,
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manufactured, a crisis generated hysteria. and essentially, you know, done europe into a kind of a version of china and, or communist china. and i wrote a lot of people being locked into their homes. i mean, it was like, it was a clearly, a, a, a deliberate project. the german foreign minister analynn a bare bach of the greens and she has been an artist and vocal supporter of ukraine, staunchly anti russian. many say she's even over run the the actual chancellor. lock schultz and his s p. d party, the same party of uncle and michael. but recent local elections in germany have found all other major parties on their back foot with the rise of a f d. i. if the is pulling nationally between 19 and 23 percent, well above any of the other parties, the s p d that f d p and certainly the greens they currently make up the existing coalition government there. this couldn't really shake the balance of power in germany in the
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next general elections. your thoughts on this, i mean germany on the national level. well, that's very interesting because um they all of the political bodies, all of their respectable establishment bought as a christian democrats. the social democrats, the greens, the ftp, they've all said no, absolutely. and we will never cooperate with the a if the nope, no co operation irrespective of how well they do, we simply will not operate. well, if you go down that path, then that just into the a of the will continue to grow in strength and, uh, and, and then you have people will become more or more resentful that your just essentially blocking out from power the very sizable move. i mean, the idea, you know, let's say 23 percent, let's say it goes up to 25 percent. so it's actually 25 percent of the german electric would just be, you know, but just we just don't going to pay any attention to the desires. that's on
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a risk that the, for a successful stage craft. and in particular, given german economic decline. and john is um, you know, in recession um, the, the, the basis of german economic strength is the big trucks. one that was uh, that was a cheap source of energy. they were getting this a cheap energy from rush or that was in the that work so well for germany now they're not getting any of the, um, the, the, the, the north stream. you know, nothing that isn't uh, slowing anymore. and then schultz was humiliated by the destruction of this gas pipeline. so in either your great ally, the united states blew it up, which doesn't say much for you is the if the americans can just blow up your own source of energy. well, you know, as the americans and the german government's claim it was the ukrainians who did
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well, it doesn't say much, we'll great how i ukraine. either way you look ridiculous is a stupid and your economy is thinking, you know, this is, you know, this is what germany's famous for his great big sports industry is only gets causes pharmaceuticals. it's chemicals that some of it's consumer products and then they, they get german goods renown throughout the world for their quality. if that's gone well, what else is germany? a half. and so i think that to insist in those circumstances. well, we're just going to continue to hold onto power. you know, we, you know, establishment boxes and we're going to keep out of the, the envelope of a, of the, that's the rest of people success. i mean, you can keep somebody out if you're doing a good job, you know, for these. so, you know, the german economy is a thriving, but if german economies,
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the time came and the germans were like these bavarian, i got to thinking, hey, well, what's happened to a successful, prosperous livestock? i mean then, you know it's, it's disappearing. they're not going to take kindly to that. so um, i think that program are just simply blocking a of the from power. i think it's due to say the a and the that doesn't mean that they're not going to go down that box. but it's, it's one that's gonna lead eventually to a very serious political crisis in germany. now let's head down to romania. president zelinski was actually denied the opportunity to speak before that countries parliament. he got the same rejection treatment by kevin mccarthy. some months ago when he asked to speak before the us congress. now up until this point, romania has been happy to follow along the anti russia pro ukraine sentiment. but is romania also souring on ukraine? because if pulling romania sour on ukraine,
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that's really bad news for kids. there are countries share the largest borders with ukraine and, and was mentioning the historical and territorial claims to current de ukrainian territory. what do you make of all of that? yeah, no question. um romania like hunger a. um and uh, unlike phone and of course uh, last x ray um, after world war 2 to ukraine, i mean it was basically like a little over hungry romanian. poland. uh, had territory sliced off and added to what was in the soviet union, but then basically it was inherited by ukraine. and of course there are no romanians. ringback living in the ukraine. i'm so but again, i think it, it is a case of the the public in romania as is the lock it as an under is salary . so you know that they, they don't see any real
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a conclusion to this war. and they're getting it so it's getting tie as of the whole zalinski stick with, you know, with his wearing those ridiculous fatigues. i mean, the guys on the military 1st wise wearing these military fatigues, i arriving. but essentially as a kind of a begging bowl. i mean, you know, you know, i want to give me more, i need more. um, so the, the, the i think is the remaining, as far as does it relate, is quite concerned about getting sucked into this war against. it's in the neighborhood just like it was like is right in the neighborhood. and so if this war continues to escalate it who gets sucked in, you know, you could be in the line of fire and, and i think that they re, i'm not happy with it. i mean, you know, in what else we could buy the eastern europe. there were plenty of the, those easier fans or apps or the dimensions. i mean, they, you know, they, they,
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they, the baltic states, you know, the like for every day they wake up and saying, you know, how can i then tagging eyes the russians even more today? what, what can i, do you know, what, what, what, what stacked use can i take down? you know, what, what the rent on the senator is going i dislike, right? you know, just just do it. and the way the russians all the more. so you know that that's, that's the way they, they, they operate and then they say, oh, we're really afraid to rush. right. you know, so you know, the so afraid that we're going out of our way to entangle nice them and every moment so that they use. so you have those a stays but you also have you know like romania and like hungry and slovakia, they don't see that way. they don't, they don't receive the interest. i dine up with continually untangled, lising, rochelle, every young i may not like russia very much. i may not know who liked the much, but they don't see any reason to be continually antagonizing them. so that's why i
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think, but some uh, zaleski hasn't realized that there's a moment in which you know, he is out stages. welcome. and i think that's i think they put what happened in romania, george them. well, a thank you for that always of fun chat. george is a writer and senior fellow at the global policy institute in london, author of the book called bombs for peace, nato's humanitarian war. on yugoslavia and make sure you check out his daily podcast with peter labelle, called the gaggle. find the one locals dot com. all right, that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi. the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila. chad. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o.
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the . the 1st 3rd of the 19th century was marked by the aggressive expansion of the united states. the americans sought to seize as much territory for settlement as possible, ignoring the sovereignty of the neighboring states and the interests of the indigenous peoples in 1845, washington enough, the annexation of mexican texas and in march, 1846 american troops invaded mexico. however, mexico itself did not have enough means to effectively confront the enemy. besides,
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it was being torn apart by internal conflicts. the americans managed to return the tide of the war in their favor. in september 18, 47, the u. s. army captured mexico city. mexico was forced to assign a humiliating peace treaty according to wait to get lost 55 percent of its territory. vieques agent of the lands to the united states lead to terrible consequences, bloodshed, genocide was committed against the indians in california. during the 1st half century of the american ruled, the number of the indigenous people in the region decrease from 150216000 people. slavery, which had been abolished in mexico long before the united states attacked was restored on the occupied territories. this will later become one of the reasons for the civil war in the united states themselves. nations like individuals are punished for their transgressions. we got our punishment. american president
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ulysses grant wrote about the consequences of aggression against mexico several decades later. the idea of strikes hit, the maternity ward in the southern does the killing one child and wounding several others as the death told the region passes. $19000.00 all common enemies around the world are watching. and they know that the is why the story is the victory of the 4 year old. let's play do a night that states of america. israel is that top defense official says his country has washington's support to fight for the quote free. we're all those
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