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to pm must go time and bits of scotts, and i'll be back again with another look at today's biggest stories and about how the it seemed like a long distance and dream and american culture as of the last decade. freedom of speech have a really and are you on musk has decided enough is enough and found a defamation lawsuit against the liberal, leaning. what size media matters for america and scale use it on this episode of 360 view. what a lawsuit against media matters is playing out in a texas court room. what will be the effects for freedom of speech and social media platforms around the world? let's get started. the
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everyone hate to bully, but sometimes the only way to get rid of one is to find a bigger bully. this is exactly what is happening with the lawsuit filed in texas us by the company formerly known as a twitter x owner, a long mosque that some quick background x filed a lawsuit against liberal advocacy group media matters for america. seeing it manufactured a report to show advertisers post alongside neo nazi and white nationalist post all in order to drive advertisers from the platform and destroy x corporation. advertisers like nbc universal and parent company, comcast. ibm, as well as many others have said they stopped advertising on x after there was a report by the group media matters stating there as were appearing alongside material praising nazis. now is that a secret that liberals and liberal groups like media matters were not happy when
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the social media platform formerly known as twitter, was bought by you on musk? now up until that point, those, with a more liberal leaning, had almost universal control of the most popular social media platforms. therefore, they could control the information which those platforms promoted. more importantly, they could regulate and in some cases, compress information they felt did not align with their agenda and goals. even if it was the truth. what better way to destroy something you cannot control then to take away its revenue, which is exactly what media matters set out to do you on most got no choice but to file this lawsuit. if not, they would continue to chip away at his business. and so is bound to be bankrupt, but not only does this have to do with you on mosque and his profits, but it has a key to do with free speech in the future. was discussed with our panel, steve malls, berg, political commentator, and talk radio host,
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lionel media analyst, all the london social media, analysts and commentator. thank you gentlemen, for joining me. the gang is all here. i can not think of a better panel to talk about freedom of space, talk about you on most and more importantly, talk about the future of what this could do of not only united states for around the globe. and the 3 of you. i want to start off with you, steve malls were actually, i'm going to align or 1st x complains that media matters manipulated the algorithms on the platform all to create images of advertisers paid post extra races. incendiary contexts, now the jacks to positions. according to the complaint were manufactured there in organic and extraordinarily rare. but for the legal perspective, is there any solid ground? absolutely. if he can prove it, or we have little bit of a little bit of a kerfuffle here, the judge is judge pittman a term before the or reduce himself. so that that's going to be interesting to see which, which judge gets it. but understand one thing for
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a lot of why did ever came to self what, why, why did even we're curious himself, i didn't say didn't have to say normally, you don't have to but, but it would have been nice for i think you, i must have had this particular judge, though, at the federal level, i don't think about it as to what point you were actually because after all this lifetime tenure. but this cause, this is one of those kind of breaking news stories. but the bottom line is simply this. if media matters or any organization is planning that something is, is true, that is not, and it affects the, the, the reputation of the business, the income of somebody else do not absolutely able and have a cause of action against them for libel, defamation, whatever. goals without saying it comes now to, let's prove it, that's the bottom line. if they can prove it, the lines and if not, but it's not enough just for a liberal organization to say bad things about somebody. if indeed they are true. and even if it affects your business, the, the, the proof is going to be the putting specifically regarding the algorithm. and the
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proof that is um, made available well as can be about the dollars. it's going to be said, can you show this actually hurt these businesses? and it doesn't help when you have actually very liberal leaving organizations like comcast and ibm coming out and actually backing up the law. i must think they pulled their funding based on this report for media matters. but there's another part of this, steve malls berg, could this be a double edged sword? as we've seen from us guys, he's now going to have to open himself up for discovery. but is this just in regards to x and should media matters be concerned, even though i doubt they hide very much. i well, i mean, i that, you know, kind of, uh along the lines of what my good friend, lionel said. i mean, this is a, a blockbuster accusation against media matters and i am no fan of media matters over the years. i've been a subject of, of, of there's from time to time, i didn't like it, but i mean if they manipulated what, what, what must is claiming, i don't even know how you do that, but i guess they, the people know how to do it then, then by all means,
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i mean this has to go through and they have to be held accountable. but i, i think so that the, that you know, well media matters added do was not do anything illegal and that's what they did. just report on what was happening on on twitter, how much which we did an anti semitic tweeted using the jews of about waging a genocide against white over the years of a crazy, crazy stop. now he's been to israel her last a few days and he's remedied some of that in my mind in my view. but look, it's going to be black or white either either must because right, and media matters really needs to be penalized severely for what they did or must is wrong. and media might, it matters the if the, if they were just printing what they saw and didn't manipulate that they have every right to to notify the public. well, all 3 of you are very active on the multiple social media platforms. so i'm not gonna put one expert, i have another, but i am going to go to all the on this because you've actually become an influence
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. there are multiple social media platforms. is it easy to manipulate? i mean, we talked about how you can walk by a phone and just talk about a certain subject and magically those ad appear within your social media feed. is this easy for someone like a media matters to manipulate so that those as or that those tweets appear along side as the same that x might not even have anything to do with? oh yeah, absolutely. one day after this uh, medium mattress hit piece was published. uh x, the linda. yeah. carino actually made a statement x to somebody to statement basically saying that the album most minute like is. and they only found around 2 instances of these address appearing next to what they deemed far right content. so it's basically 2 instances. the media matches was trying to say it was happening many, many times. and now suddenly all of these brands dropped advertising on x. but what's interesting, scotty, if you compare this to take total east around,
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you don't see any major out that. so cooperation is a boy quoting advertising on instagram. that was an instagram investigation today, which was posted by a very big ex account called judge designer. and basically it was showing that a lot of sexualized, adult content was being started to children on instagram. and yeah, you don't see any media matters, hit pieces against that. you also don't see any media. my to hit piece is about to talk which have a well sama been logged in, trend trending. we have a weak where thousands of influence as a raising been lot, and 911 attack and appraising his left to, to america, saying he was, you know, a freedom fighter. i'm well take talk did take action several days later. you don't see the close to boy called that, so it's clear that media matches all of these corporations see acts as a substantial threat because it's taking away the ad revenue. they all ending on that right in the websites because everybody is now getting menus from at so they certainly did a minute. but the album in this case, okay, so same to always point right there. all i want to say this is less about the on
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must being anti semitic or the anti semitic charges, but more about just finding something they can take extra down with. do you agree with that? well again, yeah, i mean yes, he makes a great point because they've been after 11 months from day one and, and in every way, shape or form that they can't, there's constant did pieces on him not for media matters necessarily, but from the rest of the media i use public me number one when it comes to that and their goal, if they could take him down. and then of course through tesla as well, which he owes. they go after that under the microscope and hold them accountable for that in space x and everything that he owns seems to be under the microscope div. that's right to their agenda. he's a threat to their domination of free speech and sensor and conservative. there's no doubt about that. he's absolutely correct on that point. well, i know i got to bring in your legal expertise on this, and i know you have some of the issues your address, but also to look at how you want to much chose
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a texas courtroom. you and the judge, i think, is very cowardly, has removed himself from it. if he can't give a reason, democrats are crying that medium matters is not going to be given a fair trial in texas. does. is that also make the democrats have to face the same argument, which they are fighting in the case of president trump and his various court proceedings in more liberal states? what are the 1st of all, as far as the judge we q is a, we don't know why a judge has to avoid the mirror appearance of, of impropriety. and there may be a ways be may be a stockholder, or you may show me the, i wanna say why, if he actually help talking in twitter, something about this seems like he just doesn't want to get involved in something. this dirty. well, that is your opinion and you're entitled to us and you think we're missing a bigger picture here. this is a part of that. i don't understand it. i'm sure my, my 2 colleagues here will disagree with me. so if there's a d submitted or, or, or not see, or, or whatever on, on, on twitter show what i can see on twitter. what i am seeing in new york that
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people hold up in placards. and the, and the nbc affiliate is reporting it. here's the bigger picture. what kind of a world do you live in? well i, i'm not gonna use that mind. i'm not a not, you know, go on that recognizing this, but i'm on the dog. and i'm so sick and tired of my social media being destroyed, if you don't like x or twitter, or anything or instagram, don't look at it. there are not see that there. doesn't that the, the new crane. nobody isn't funny. not everybody cares about that system except when they're in ukraine and we know where they're all that's different we. we can't miss that. the bigger picture here. forget about e one. is it anybody's responsibility? you must, must a quarter be this, this stairwell place. we're all all mean nice things are said is that it. so
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what if you don't like something and you are coming to you who boy got it, i understand being placed next to it. but my god, what is the matter with this? this is supposed to be the great frontier. remember when the internet 1st started, it was the greatest thing. sure. they were all kinds of weird owes and freaks and thirties. so mike said, and you gave me wonder if you didn't like. and so was it merely mirrored what was going on in the world or what you were seeing on tv. that's the bigger picture that nobody talk. okay, steve balls were, i say the 21 response. hold on. let's take a break. what? because when they respond, not only are we gonna let steve mazda berg response, we're going to discuss if this defamation case will have an impact. the global, the
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russian states never is as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community best to communicate. and i'll send, send the keys to progress be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russian, excluding and split the ortiz full neck, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say a request which is the 1941 with the nazis health situation, ultra nationalist view astonishes the claim,
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the independent state of croatia. shortly off, the seizing power. they build the scene of us concentration camp a place associated with the worst atrocities committed in yugoslavia during world war 2. use dash is used to come system to isolate and exterminate subs, roma, jews, and other known catholic minorities and political opponents of the fascist regime. conditions in the scene of us come when the gods tortured to arise and the prisoners they sent them a consultation temps. so most of them died, it was incredible genocide. the welcome back. i'm sky now he use and you are watching the 360 view you on musk is not backing down. and his defamation case against media matters. and now those who
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have a livelihood based off the social media platform ask, are we encouraged to join our be encouraging joining with the lawsuit? does this only strengthen the case? well, let's continue our discussion with our panel. see malls, vertical commentator talk radio has a line on media analysts all the london, the social media analyst and commentator. i left off with you. steve was working, i'm going to pose the question to you just like lionel said he doesn't like his social media sterile. you might not like what's being pointed, you might not like what's being set on a place like x, but should it still be allowed? that's called freedom of speech a. well, it depends on what the uh, what, what, what's being said. i mean, you can have calls for violence, you can have calls for. um you know that we're, we're living in an unprecedented time right now where people never thought they would see this kind of thing happen day in their life time after the holocaust,
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we saw the biggest killing of jew since the holocaust. on october 7th, we've then have people coming out and blaming the jews with this blaming the jews for that. we're seeing jews under attack choose under assault on college campuses. people being told to stay in place shelter in place, jews, that is a when there's palestinian protests going on, or palestinian protests being marched through campuses or through cities in certain areas of new york city. the cops that did you stay in place? i mean, this is unprecedented. so if you're having social media exits on, organize this and spread bought, we have boats, rumors or, or, or a false stereotypes about jews and making false claims. that's leading to all this . i mean, it's gotta be monitored. i don't think anybody would say you could shout fire in a theater and i don't think you should be able to shut fire in the theater, so to speak on social media. but all it is that the buyer, unless there's a fire, the other thing is always, it's not opening up and doors box. i mean, whose responsibility would it be to say, what is the truth or what is not?
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and as we've seen, it's also in the i have the older these days. one person might say it doesn't make it true. all right, well, we've seen ego mosque has made it his number one priority to respect freedom of speech side. we've seen, he likes thousands of previously found accounts that were found on the previous united traits and twit toners have been reinstated, you know, we still recently, casey hopkins who's well 9 british common sites a, she was just reinstated off to being banned for several years. so i know he alone wants free speech, whether you agree with someone or not. it is very important in any democratic society for people to have these views. but you know, there is a rough bottom line between insights and violence and hate speech is valid. and what we have seen recently, of course, because of what is going on between is rollins, have mass, we have seen a lot of tension, us branding online would say, you know, take talk, pushing pro, how much content we've seen, you know, jewish people receiving hates abuse online,
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which is of course different to free speech because that is pretty high speech. so there is again, a very fine line. but, you know, who do we allowed to place this? because if we suddenly allow no congress so the you to stop costing laws that they determine hate speech and that can be a very slippery slope because we're seeing now in the islands. they are trying to introduce hight speed, slowest virtual. basically they can just find anything they want as high speed. so if you cool a transgender pass, then you know the wrong pronouns that could be considered hate speech. and that is rudy a slippery slope and that slippery slope has caused talk. right. i'm sitting here too, are the best talk show. hosts are great, it was in the country it and unfortunately that's what killed talk radio in the united states and possibly around the world as they deemed conservative talk. radio is a speech. and so guess what? all of these advertisers pulled out, and now we don't have it on your a radio line or your response to control list shouldn't even be controlled. is there that line that we should just call the off button by the way,
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very quickly and make a very good points. page beach who needs to be paid is protected. paid is a thought, it's an idea. i had been what i a terrorism. i hate the yankees, whatever kate close have to find that this information, this information, data information. what does that mean? we have occasion united states called brand bergman stow ohio very quickly and said you can go out and you can save me the most awful. they just dealt with a, a k, k ran wizard. and then last, what you were doing is no deliberately intended to incite violence. and it does like, let's go now we're going to have very, very soon all kinds of, of christmas, the events in new york city where i am now the being of the tree. and every day there was weeks, i'd say, come on, bring or whatever. it's called and show the board and storm if they don't say violence, they just say show, well this is going to be, this is going to be
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a problem. what don't don't say the something don't, don't allow this because somebody a take this the wrong. why do i live on a free society or what free speech is dangerous? it's all for some of the great is either you started off with somebody doing which got them arrested. let's not remember or lose what we just lost during coven mania . when we couldn't even talk about madison, think about this during this biomedical marshall laws. i'm, i'm very scared and we talked about, well, you know that, and that was the government side of the room. that was the government agencies who went to social media platforms. and i would assume other media companies and said, you know this with this laptop uh, garbage about a 100 by and that's rushing this information. i wouldn't put anything. i would allow anything and the coven vaccine, i wouldn't allow anything either. so the government actually did sensor and i agree with you 100 percent on that to but i think when it comes to this,
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i just think again, not hate speech, not good with something can be deemed take, but something that is an obvious call for violence or attacking jews, or attacking a specific person. i think that's a, that's the problem that i get where this is personal to you. i obviously do staples where, cuz you're having to live through yourself you're, you're dealing with the personally. but i also have to bring up right now, january 6, they're coming back and they're finding anybody that ever said anything positive about trump or who questioned the election or question the result. guess what do inside of january 6, i am very fearful. just like, why know, in opening this box because how they're, you question the governments and with this case it's not the government is coming after the individuals. it's an organization acting as their weapon for these people that for those the government, the don't like how things happen. always on that point right now, are you seeing the same thing happening across the pond in the u. k. in the you, you have lots of you had a major protest happened in spain. you had a new government elected by gert walters and i don't answer, dan,
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are we seeing these start the same kind of conversations? it gets freedom of speech and, and let me just point out in the u. k, you have this thing called off comp that shuts down networks that they don't like. what they're saying is this opening up, could this potentially open up the door putting for those freedoms, coming back in the okay, if this lawsuit stands as well. so i see there is a lot of sense to ship because we're same right now. they're all in our upcoming 1000000000 people taking to the streets, involved learn madrid, and various other cities across spite and listen to be happy to 26 days and you don't see this report. it didn't let me decide. this is one of the reasons why things like x all very important because we need to be able to see what's going on and whether you agree or disagree with something, we need to be aware. we can pull my own opinions by doing all our research but, and what we all say now, there's a french minister that's different than the x. the pull to shop x down in front will spreading what they described, dismissed information. this information island is doing the same and it is very,
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very const. a i mean, because, you know, we need to be able to have these discussions. we need to be at the report on the needs because sadly, many mainstream outlets all bathing people. right now we have in the u. k. the bbc, news, and scar news has become propaganda. outlets full have mass, they are not being impartial and the bbc's job is to be impartial site. the reason a social media is very important is for people to find that information themselves . and you know, they need to do the writing research instead of, you know, listening to what that told on a television channels. so now we do have these threats of censorship. i think you don't mask is doing fantastic job in defending free speech. but i certainly think what we're seeing right now an ex, there is a lot of anti semitism is another program i stuff and you know, eat on is trying to protect free speech, but i think we will start to see some issues with that. and regarding johnny re 6, you know, we so you know, even a journalist i would troy out from input was, was jailed for reporting on this. we are now seeing an attack on janice we had in
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the u. k. the other day tell me robinson, who was reporting on the anti semitism much was at pappas sprayed as we were talking comp. they pappas right him in the eyes. they had about 20 to pass. he doesn't offices arrest him. and you know, simply because he went back to show solidarity and just don't this much. so we all seeing these attacks and censorship. and that's why platforms like i just need to be protected from these kind of censorship laws. and yet state laws. burge, you would think, considering, you know, i must, because one of the new guys in the room that i was especially a platform. where is zachary, or where is it? what is it danced by it would take talk. why aren't they standing up in a coalition going and you know, you go after one of us, you're going to go after all this. why are they joining in, in this fight for freedom of speech? isn't that what their social media platforms are based on? now because i believe i believe that they know they see what we've been talking about how the powers that be the government is going after eli musk and basically
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is not going after them, leaving them alone, letting them their platforms run unfettered. so they're not going to muddy the waters, they're not going to associate themselves with somebody who's sticks up a conservative who's platform allows conservatives on when they to a great extent still sensor conservative and conservative thoughts. so and, and, and incur the wrath of, of, of the, the government and maybe the congress eventually who knows. so they're, there's, they're done like foxes, you know, they see no evil hear no evil until it comes to them. they're just going to keep their mouth shut. and that's a, that's a travesty. it really is. normally, i don't like to give the last word of the person the of the 1st word, but this is a legal conversation. so i'm going to leave it with our legal expert real quick, last minute line, or what happens if the line must wins this case and it'll be step one. and then we're going to continue this dialogue because i want to add one more thing. we have to ask the question, this is not about one must squared x. the question is what it is and is not
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acceptable on social media. every single day, we have pictures of kids here in new york, speeding up a police officer. so somebody with a camera fills it or somebody violating, let's say a bunch of june or his city, a jews or, or, or, or covering them and screaming. and it'd be somebody that is reported by someone with a camera that insights that incentivizes, that shows people you can mimic this behavior. but guess what? is it free speech reporting? did it happen, or does it insight? does it make people able, by showing you what's actually happening? these are the questions, these are the and by the way, transcends the court rules. it's, it's discussions like this that i hope a one the address is because we're going to lose the right to free speech. nobody's got to take it from us. we're going to give it away well and then nobody will know that it's even gone because that'll be silence. steve malls, bard line of all the one and 3 of my favorites, thank you so much for joining me. and i know we'll have you back on to discuss as
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this last to progressive groups like media matters have become the weapon of the powerful and the politicians to silence those they do not like. and as long as the so called independent groups are doing the dirty work and going after critics, the politicians can still claim they were keepers and believers and free speech. now because of this lawsuit, maybe, organizations will think twice about whether they're truly protecting a right or if they're being used to destroy it, the sky. now here's and this has been your 360 you. thanks a lot the i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people.
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