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one of our award winning documentary. so sit tight and enjoy the the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to the prospect where all things are considered. and peter roosevelt. html 2 is change in violence or among the hallmarks of the year about and indeed the conflict in ukraine and the war on concert shots,

the conscience on this edition of the program. we discuss who in what made the year memorable, the discuss these issues and more and joined by my guess george, send me well we in budapest, he's a pod cast or at the gavel, which can be found on youtube and locals and america. yes, we have martin j e is an award winning journalist and commentator our job in cross levels of the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with georgia in budapest. it's a, it's a big endeavor to ask you both of you, you know, what made this year this year with so little time and so many things going on. so i'm just going to, you know, ask the impossible, george, what made this year the year it was a well, it's a nice many things made it easier that he was, i mean, but it's, it sounds of who has made the biggest impact. so i think in a negative way,

i have to say present by the i think he has to fail massively and everything that he has tried. he goes into an election year with the standing lead low poll numbers, or he's facing defeat is facing a party that um the test him but doesn't know what the hell to do with him because unable to get rid of him. but above all, he's really responsive over to terrible was, i mean, you know, the pacifically, he tries to distance himself from the war in gaza when he, every, everybody in the world can see he's the enabler in chief of that war. and of course, is the, the, the ongoing war in ukraine and, and by now, it's really has seeped into the public conscience that this war was unnecessary,

could have ended, you know, uh, 18 months ago. but i could have been avoided altogether. i think would have been avoided altogether, but full of bite and then and his team. so he really has to be one of the, was most catastrophic presidents in us history. i love george. you know, it's a, it's a competition. now. i mean, in our lifetime there's been a lot of very, very for weak, ineffective presidents and by new joins the ranks. pardon me and you're, you're a different part of the world in georgia. 9. what, how do you see the, the whole or the what that makes up this year when most of the 1st time on a humble show, george, some spells from my mother often lamented when i followed the door. and it's not the easiest that i would have said, but maybe we can refine that. maybe we can hone that a tab. i think perhaps us for a policy has sunk to

a new low. but the institutions around it which on dependent also, i think people may well look back next year to this year, look at the bottom administration and how we can and effective and how much does did that. and then look at nate, so as well. and we will remember the nature summit in june of last year with the, the, the west basically pro prevaricates it and shrugged his shoulders and said, well, you know, we're coming to agree on whether you want to go this way or that way. but we try to this really, really cool little committee. it was a new little guy for a friend, zalinski, you know, and then nothing really came. was that a tool and that delaying and that did the ring. i think because go to momentum to that, you know, and so the, you spectacularly became just the spectator to conflicts which george touchstone is the also in the case of the you and enable are okay. 1st of july and

she, you know, did the pair hug thing also the buying did in, in israel, which, you know, allow me thought to george here. i mean, i was gonna ask you, the democracy. deposition is growing and that was at the appropriate example of an elected official. assuming that you please assume such he has so much power if he speaks for hundreds of millions of people, which he does that george. the exactly right it's, it's the, the height of insulins when she walks around and actually suggests that she's the president of the european union. the, she runs the european union. she has an all elect, the bureaucrats. and yes, she's of every summit. this year was as if she's uh, you know, the equivalent of all of the, the, the heads of states and heads of government for that and, and everything that she does, she completely aligns with so with the united states. so when i was about a month or so ago, she went to washington and on the very same day,

and i think it was the very same time the buying was delivering the national address, demanding that the american people put pressure on the congressional leaders to sign up for that package, the 100000000000 dollar package where ukraine gaza and the boy that she was speaking and, and use what was exactly the same language also. well, everybody's got to get on board, you know, because you know, the civilization does this make it, it'd be great. and then we have to stand with israel. she is absolutely gossley person and the same goes for all the you leave is, i mean use that barrell you pretends that he's he, you know, he runs the policies before the end of the month its totalled. yeah. so go ahead, jump the jump in, margaret, go ahead. begin here because george and i have a lot of fun with burrell. i mean, it's just a gift that keeps on giving. keep. go ahead my don't, it's just, it's a position that you created almost deliberately. there was this conspiracy amongst

the latest that we have to create this sort of stupid to clue kind of uh, you know, mega states idea of the you having foreign policy. but we don't really want it to be anything serious or real genuine. we don't want it to have an edge. so we need to find a politician delta who is completely ineffective totally eustace, to dispense charismatic as a part of dump towels, who talks in jibberish and no one takes them seriously. that is actually the criteria of the job. if you look back at all of the he, you phone affairs, cheese has always been the same thing. we had a lady from breast and called catherine as town who was just a police officer. she was so spectacularly useless. she got lost in a building in eastern europe and people have to go and not to find that from the building. she couldn't walk out how to get to the list to get down to the ground floor. so it's all the same, the same person that realized that something had gone terribly wrong. and the, my don, this was a problem vacation. she knew it, she talked to other of her colleagues, she knew it,

but she had no courage to push forward with it. as the caliber of people that we have right now, i'm sorry to interrupt me, are no one an barrel, is pretty much the same. you know, he's, he's, every time he opens his mouth and he says something, it's either completely jibberish and ineffective. another sense, or it's polemic. and he says something like, you know, that he is a god, and everybody else is in the jungle. you know, i know he's ever going to go is that because he wasn't gonna move on from that, you know, but we'll be sol with gone. so what we saw with ukraine is a, you goes into a deep freeze, so sorry, the cuts joining a scale. so they say multi note will be c is every time that so something huge happens in the world in a you, for a policy just goes into deep freeze. it goes because he has put into the chest freeze and we never hear of ever again. and barrow is not spokesman of that deep freeze operation, you know, when and doubtful, or the americans on ever think. i'm just,

the greek is probably always that worked out. joe or joseph. i mean, any of this, there's a inexpensive track record now. i mean, maybe you can say this was a one off year. yeah, no, that's right. and that's what it's so amusing because burrell. so sometimes guy recalls, well, i'm supposed to be the representative on the european left and i was a french social is. so maybe i should say something that's uh, a little bit of defiance of the united states and, uh, you know, i should, you know, call about some european approach to, uh, well, the 5th and i, you know, he says as it goes, makes a complete full of him so as he did with the whole, the jungle and the, the 12th at the garden. but in the meantime, of course, the phone, the lion clearly angling for the job of the nato secretary general. she's a number the you have to absolutely, uh, follow the united states,

whatever the americans want, the europeans should run. and then, you know, and, you know, and it goes beyond just the you because the, you know, the u. k. although no longer a member of the you, it's none. the less is you know, more than happy to say yeah, yeah, yeah, we go to just do, do whatever the americans want. and so we have this, this entity of this, your, of the european confidence that has seemed to have nothing to say. i mean, what, well, you know what? yeah, and george and then they throw it back tomorrow. is the we you know we, after the, the 2008 financial crisis, a new organization, the g 20, which i think was a really good idea. the g 7 doesn't speak for the world though. they think they do, um, but then we have the the g 7 just corrupting the g 20. i mean again, you know, shutting down all kinds of avenues of different points of view and not allowing countries to express their sovereign interest in rights martin. and what is the silver interest, you know, so it's almost a dirty word with dusty phrase. you know,

with the further we go down this road, you know, sadly most member states, you know, the level of governance discuss with or no, no, and expresses, becomes escape cause you continually blame for everything. but you know, if she ever doing this so you know, we it with, i think we look back at this last year. i think we will look very much at the side pacific denies of britain how britain has become such a brutal of america is just embarrassing as a brit. i'm so embarrassed to talk like this. you know, i'm old enough to remember when we, we have some clout in the world. but now, you know, with, with, just as pathetic little brutal for the button ministration to listen to go well and then that was the time. i think you would agree with me, george, and i have often reflected upon this after the 2nd world war, we could name all the prime ministers up until like 2 last kind of 10 years ago with a who's born secretary. now i have no idea 10 years ago the 10 years ago i wouldn't know, i would know who the french foreign minister is. i wouldn't know that. okay,

i don't know it because it doesn't matter. it doesn't. oh, the judge, i'm sorry. julia julia. i know there was a dozen, ma'am and, and when we bought modest thing is absolutely right. that it was the time when the europeans would, you know, however feebly you insist on a distinctive foreign policy of their own arrow. wilson refused to go along with the united states of vietnam despite the l. b. j. pleadings. edward, he's refused to uh, endorse on nixon's and live to support israel during the young people who are said, no, you can't use our s space to send the weapons to israel. it's inconceivable that anyone would, would do that. now we don't even have to get any that the gold and really brown, but there were european leaders who said no, no, you know we, we, we're not just going to blindly follow the americans. it's a disaster. the now you're in my car and occasionally gives an interview and you have, we missed a mentor in the supervisor of identity, who may not have been great and excited. you know, we just bought it follows what the,

the narrative as well as the worst impression of a 100 and i mean, but it is, there may be the worse, but i mean, the interpretation is right. i think get on monday. he thinks one thing on tuesday is something completely different than that, but that's what makes them irrelevant and kind of been observed characters, but it is a, that's a very representative of, of european politics this george has pointed out if you want to know what their position is check somebody in washington, even probably a junior level for person is writing this for them these days. i gentlemen, i'm going to step in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the year 2023. stay in parking

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this are conservative. 10 the welcome. across that were all things are considered. i'm due to the bill. this is the home addition to mind. you were discussing the year 2023, the i go back to georgia in budapest, another. i think on trends that we saw, i would, it didn't happen in 2023, but we became very a recognizable is the, the difference between the nato, a world g 7 and everybody else is getting clearer and clearer. and we, and they'll be all of the efforts that, um and they still land and g 7 tried to use uh,

world public opinion against russia mailed rushes, not an isolated countries. matter of fact, it's opened up a lot of new avenues with trade. and even people of diplomatically, but the west is kind of just living that it's all little bubble. it just simply can't recognize the world that is changing in front of it. and they're the ones that are creating the change in fact, porch. yeah, is that exactly right? any, any hot, it's even happening within your if it's so self, you know, they've got it, but some of the, like uh, victor, oregon who are home safe is actually one of the winners of this. yeah. because he looks pretty good. you know, he said from the beginning it is absolutely crazy ball the europeans to follow the americans blindly. absolutely crazy to pursue the sanctions policy. and the sooner this war in your brain is brought to an end of the better. but it's, it's

a expense to the rest of the world, but with, despite all the pressure and controlling that countries like india or china and i was put under by the united states, they still say, well, actually it has nothing to do with us. that's your problem. don't impose your problems on us and that and then tomorrow we'll go along with the sanctions. was a game. well, we're not going along with the sanctions because again, it isn't our problem and we're not going to make sacrifices you. you great, and you care about your praise, you know, you, you'll be want to go down that path and then it goes where the width is really, you know, a serious be high. so it goes, when it gets to the mid lease where, you know, suddenly where, uh, the, the west has been, you know, beating its chest. so the power, oh my god, what's going on? and ukraine is telling us something, oh, this is, this is fine. you know, we go when you know what this girl's doing is fine. and hey,

we have these ridiculous things, lopsided boats at the united nations, the un general assembly, even though the un security council. louise's mom rode away. but can we just keep going with the israel? so it's a shows a couple of the installation, you know, the, the west. but the, basically, the west is now the united states. they have their agenda. the tried to inflict this on, on the rest of the world and the rest of them so no, i mean it's just got nothing to do with us. yeah. martin, i think i think one of the, i think it's under reported and not understood well enough, but what about uh, one of the critical moments of 2023 is when joe biden flew to israel. a gave the bear hug to mit netanyahu, but didn't expect that to have a air of summit and he was turned down. i think that is a very interesting turning point. you've got completely snubbed a we have he has a secretary of state that um it just speaks in a boilerplate platitudes. same thing with jake sullivan,

who said right before the gothic little waste was remarkably quiet right now. again, it's like, it's this lack of a leadership, it's a lack of quality leadership. and, and, and, and, and barry myopic ideological precepts and how they see the world. yeah, and it's um, from where i am in the airport and i can tell you is that a whole the country is the 22 countries of the mentor region. most of them, if not all of them are just simply buying time. i'm waiting for the but ministration to, to full and be replaced. ideally they hope many of them hope the trump will come back and assessing the gc states. and so they all, they don't hate the bottom instruction on how many huge access to grind it goes by and they just think he's an effective. that's it, it just, it just can't do anything. you know, he's an old man who's lost touch of u. s. foreign policy, that's george mentioned, i think, you know, west policy is america. now that's the transition that we've seen over the last couple of decades. you know,

and really brought home most so with some ukraine where there was still on the table and you kind of were reason, be happy with it. and the russians a reason we're happy with it and you know, bite. and since the, the burst on some of that discover it and make sure that we know you actually want to wall with russia. you know, that would be quite good. but even lots not since they didn't really want to rush out. they wanted a proxy. but with russia, which is of course, much more cowardly as much more manageable. and they thought with that in the end of the month or 2. but to, to go back to joe, just put, think the west is in decline. that's how we look at 2023, you know? but that makes though it was a west. okay. we save united states george more dangerous because no hedge them on in history willingly accept, accept the leave. what their power and their influence, the diminishment they, they'll fight,

they fight the maintain it. i think that's right. and i think that's why um, the situation is rather dangerous. um, you know, we, we often talk about the ukraine and how, um, well, you know, your brand is obviously, um, failing is losing. um, good faith is inevitable, but then you have to as well. but will the united states accept that? and that's where you get the dangers. well, they may not, they may just simply decided that this is intolerable and actually move their own forces in a certainly to fight with russia. but to put their forces in. i'm saying hit thus far and no further we, we will maintain the military presence in your price. that's a very dangerous situation, but well, with within the realms of possibility. because i know the united states, it just simply got to shrug his shoulders. they okay, well, we lost the russia and that's all a risk of just losing the rush is not something that's a would be acceptable to washington, single sweat, taiwan. i mean, you know,

the low bluster of which you, you here in, in washington about. so i want, that's relatively new, you know, and you know, up until a few years ago, you know, the united states maintain, they, it's about strategic ambiguity. we just don't talk about it. well, you know, we'll let everyone else try to figure out what we going to do now there, explicitly saying that, you know, we're ready to go to war, but i want it's very dangerous. and the other thing, cuz it's likely that, that it does happen when, when you're in decline, then you have to really go through arrested and with the, with the, the instability is now in washington. who the hell knows where that's going to go. you know, a martin of this, this, the year lives passing and we had a henry kissinger passed away. it was not unexpected, as i've said before. but you know, we think of the world we ever speak, they respect about you think about him. he gets me or his legacy as a technician of the diploma. see he,

i can see that he could have even contemplated how incompetent american foreign policy leads are these days. i mean, considering the under nixon's direction, the opening, the china, you know, really diplomatic move there. no diplomatic brilliance left in the west. no, and this is the, i mean, the more, more cynical view of that might be from old tax. let me that it says the now us foreign policy is entirely driven by the industrial metric complex. whereas before, you know, big, powerful arms makers had influenced loving effect. but there was also a kissinger like an approach to the image of america and how we protect ourselves along with some strategies. now it's just really about money. and, you know, when you talk about taiwan, you know, oh, good. ok, taiwan. could that be another $1020.00 trillion dollars shovel from, you know, us taxpayers into these huge companies that make these jet. so these are these rockets probably they provide administration that they,

their latest iteration of justifying the proxy war and ukraine. georgia is that it's good for the economy. i mean, that's way we've gotten to where war is good for the economy. i mean, i, you know, that's almost like coming. that's a parody, but they actually use it as a talking point, george. exactly. it's a amazing bike and it said this repeatedly, hey, this is great because movie and aids getting, giving us the jobs. and, and i think the, the, the part is very important about the, of the military industrial complex. it means that, you know, given that they depend on long term orders that those ready, they need long term and not do they need long term threats. yeah, exactly. and lunch on was going to just turn around, put in a big order for a well we ukraine is going to need such and such and such and such over the next 5 years. but that's a lot of money goes into that. and then you've done around is that,

well actually we're going to call it quits and uh, and uh, bring this to an end which, which would be an ideal solution. but hey, you put in these big orders. and if the, you know, these orders collapse, then you've got a serious economic problem on your hands. so now there's a vested interest in ensuring that these, uh, orders are fulfilled, which means, well, need a lot of books to fulfill them. well, there, there is another one of the wait will, this is a hovering around this and every conversation we have now we go back to gaza. it is that the martin using george as logic, which i think is impeccable. here is a well since are destroying gods and making it on an habitable. what about his blog? maybe they're on the menu right now. we know, but a long war and i'm sure the you with us is put itself in a position where it can't say no, that's it. again, that shows you how degraded the, the integrity of american foreign policy is, is really wants to expand the war us will follow, you know, in the beginning,

a few weeks ago, we know we, we, we heard the comments from a lot of senior, i'm coming to just america's applied and it was reluctantly been pushed into the regional. but now it seems that we've been really very say martin was anymore of the kind of stuff i think missouri is that where he's pretending that he reluctantly wants to go into the original war. but he's actually letting it happen . i mean, he's allowing the reluctant boyer george look at his entire history. george of it for everyone should know charges and expert on me, the destruction of the former yugoslavia and jo bind. but it has a very high profile in your book on, at george, very high profile. and the fact that you can find it on youtube. old of biden's pronouncements during the 1990s in which he's actually boasting around about $199798.00. does he not? i wasn't one of the 1st to say we need to bone besides, and i don't mean just bone balls there. i mean bone. so there is a whole is like, you know, is that that's who bind. ms. barton has been

a cold warrior from the very beginning. i mean, even, you know, back in the 19 ages when the new democrats with 1st emerging, you know, well, oh, these are good democrats. i know like them a government democrats easily the neo com democrats by who was always the leaders. that's who, by this. and when he says things like, what i've always been a zine is a and then he says, well without israel, the jews around the world wouldn't be safe. you know, these a talking point, you know, booked up on the neo cons, cook in the, in israel. and he's just, you know, offering them that that's who is, it is rather frightening, that they have a big a really from, you know, like a museum piece from, well, i usually go back frightening and it was a frightening year and next year it's going to be even more frightening, that's all the time we have on the thing, my guessing marrakech and in budapest, i wouldn't want to thank our viewers for watching us c r t c. and next time and we member across that rules and happy new year.

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