some others how mouses, of a peculiar d months, in fact, come come off and that's military waiting, a part of the resistance of resistance. but was provoked by these riley is the real to him. and then this is his israel, but it's not simply is ryle, i mean, versus as much uh, a british and american bull attends palestine as it is. and is really one of those, all the top stories this our, on our team to national visit. our website are to, to come for more news and analysis from around the world. i'll be back up at the top of the hour with the latest. by monday show a josh the

i'm actually in retention. this is a special edition of going underground, john field joe, one of the greatest john lives in history is dead award winning all sort of hidden agendas, heroes and secret country films, the war and democracy in the coming war and china. palestine is still the issue, the way you don't see the expos, washington consensus, imperial war crimes will around the world. and his last he is he campaign tirelessly for britain to release wiki leaks found a julian assange who he would never see free again after his torture. in london, cutting balances from the whole team here going on the ground to his family. this is one of the last interviews he did for the show in memoriam, john pilcher. i don't think so much for coming on the show. use said zip all this

time is the issue in the last century and in this century, how does it link everything from war and peace atrocities, imperialism, information to neoliberalism? will power standards. so santoro of a great imperial act. ah, i've made to felons called palestine and still the issue $28.00 is a pot. if i may make another one, it will be cold. tell us sizes to leave true because palestine unless we understand the across, are they being imposed on palestine and the rights of people to defend themselves, the rights of people to resist against an external outside false, false, but uh uh, it becomes more, it's free and by the moment i'm talking about israel, they move never understand how the world works has been a whole attempt to make some of the central issue of the reporting and best known

songs as it how mouse is a peculiar demon. in fact, come come off and it's military waiting, a part of a resistance, a resistance that was provoked by these riley is the real thing. and then this is, is as well, but it's not simply is ryle. i mean, this is as much uh, a british, an american bull attends palestine as it is and is riley one, you know, just a few years ago. uh, the chief of the defense stuff and brenton. so nick, call to visit the uh, israel and between himself and uh uh, seniors rarely spread out to the state drawer. up drew up basically a secret plan, a partnership on military partnership between israel and britain. in fact,

it goes much deeper than that. it's, it's a, it's an integration of the 2 miller trade. false is what you have. uh uh uh, is riley's paint train been in the ordinance design and brittany an ordinance design, those bombs and berkeley soldiers pay you trade and then uh, in uh, uh with, with, with units but of pain as is the idea describe it as palestinian tested. so the, the, the integration of britain and especially the united states was, which gives israel $10000000.00 a day is, is complete. so it is, in one sense, it's a british european american war against the people of palestine who are doing one site. and that is refusing exercising the moral and legal right

to resist approval occupation. it's brittany says it's a friend of israel. you know, the 2 sides ism, that is mandated under broad costing restrictions. is it with here because obviously when you're talking about the atrocities, as we know, israel says the responsibility lies with i'm us. it is using civilians as human shields among john list schools and homes. and they gave fair warning and told me to grab the phone secretary here it says the u. k condemns, i'm us attacks on the see of civilians and reaffirms israel's right to self defense . well, right fine. i've heard you have to say that, but there are not 2 sides and actually to the very notion of 2 sides is a c and uh, it's like people look at your output uh, a drum and bones during the pilot. since i got that there's 2 sides here. uh, you know, the but the, the, the, the,

the palestinians have crewed rockets and when they're accused of indiscriminate chelly. yes. the say the rockets accrued. but on the other hand, israel is doing the score. i'm not targeting it's, it's, it's, it's deliberately attacking as a toy is done. civilian targets and we have the spectacle, the other day of a high rise building in which the, the, the, the, the media, almost old, palestinian certainly known western media. uh, we, we, we had the spectacle of this building be blowing up ideas. riley is when the nonsensical story that was harboring her mouth. so it wasn't. and all i was doing most federal witnesses so that it's like the pbc report on term cohen, who talks about a war between israel and how miles bowen knows by chrome,

it's an attack on an officer pod people by the occupier. israel best buy great powers. do you think lee is john list? you mentioned jeremy boeing, the least editor of the statement. david, bbc went to apologize previous to being profile this time is reporting you think they understand that a firing stone grenades into the alex and mosque on the equivalent of christmas eve is like, uh, doing that to the vatican on christmas eve. i mean, it was easy though 5 to a, it's a, it's a bit like that, the bombing the vatican or sending the soldiers into the vatican fold if they don't know, what are they doing out there? i mean, you don't actually have to be in the holy land to understand that the provocation, the attack on palestinians, and the, the attack on, on, on the holy a small skin. and in, in islam was entirely unprovoked. and the

fact that i'm come off to one of these rallies stop these attack. so now people in jerusalem, stop them now or we will resist. and so they've resisted as every people has the right to do so west the media. uh, you know where all the golf? yes, there are a lot of palestinian travelers. risk getting my lives and muslim journalists and arabic speaking to unless, but we're on the high paid western john was it looks to me like a boy called him because you think uh there was a time when john is with tried. how does it get into guys? are obviously the john, this is saying they don't expensive these a, but it's a israel that actually prevents them and doesn't give them the pos is. and i should say is right. obviously says the rocks at alex, a mosque and a israel says they give warnings. well, that's disputed by some of the children you've seen that parents being killed. well, we know that is why i was

a lie measuring and it's been proven to be that. but i think we do have to understand and the responsibility in britain is that the responsibility of the north idly the present government. but the legal polity is part of that of instalments. labor polity, which allowed pro is royal groups to uh, to direct the policy solve the label policy. but in effect, support. this is so tired when you have good. the shadow foreign secretary say not to criticize is riley atrocities is anti semitic. then maureen, what we're in louis carol, well, really, the bbc had a piece of to the, some of the atrocities in the past week saying, but why is it all these protest? is it i, when we saw that some of the largest uh, purchase in the world here in london, but i know they've been all around the world. why is it they don't protest about

the syrian government or against the, according to western sources, genocide, committed by china. right now we're going to talk about china in part 2. what, why are these protest is about palestine a tool? why don't site protest against setting up a, why don't they protest to the phrase and government about the genocide against the indigenous people? uh, why don't they protest to the us government about, but dozens of countries that deserve a throne. as about the big, the great numbers of people but is, but is his desk to this cause, then there's dispossession. it does cause it's a, it's a, it's a been all argument. uh uh, people are protesting about an atrocity that is going on before our eyes and we're allowed to see that atrocity because of some of the brave us driving

less. i know. i know some of these people, photographers, cameraman, people who's building we sort of blowing up and one of my film. so boy, you don't see there is a rustic sequin, some which and those rallies sniper guns down the palestinian camera, a man who's lying wounded on the ground. and then they continue to shoot as his legs. he was put in a uh, so seriously wounded. he probably wouldn't walk again heavy, but that's the kind of bravery. but these people in mostly power steering. and so i have to say mostly palestinians, the high paid bbc people and all those are just not. but yeah. now yes, that may be very difficult. the is riley's, who uh, uh, who, who's domain they seem to cover very well. well, let them in. why don't i get it regardless?

they are in the tunnel is that they keep telling us about, from egypt and congress woman to labor in the united states, a palestinian extraction arguably fell into a draft of trying to attack. come us, but the amazon, you are kazi, a coach has this rising star, the democrat buddy said that apartheid states and north democracies, a tony blinking, and someone who supported the destruction of sydney ended up like that of africa's riches been cabinet company. country and libya said um, said he wasn't convinced about the just the rebuilding being full of homeless operatives. is it changing in the united states? if it's not changing in london, decide or change? i don't know if i to change, you know, but, and i know bama. uh, well, uh, uh, in 2014, during the last is riley killing fast on palestine. they were killing something

like an average of 11 children a day. and yet a bomb run, but uh, uh, a rains, the re supply of precision weapons to israel by the nose. now the president, i don't see the difference. the only difference steer neighbors systems. it's, is the resistance. that's what's different the of, in this attack there is a real resistance. and this that should be matched by people going beyond the government's be on the power lines and going into this freight. so that's the only way, whether the whether or not that succeeds. i don't know, but there is no other way as you suggested, the link between those pictures of, of the atrocities coming from palestine and the british army. and the end, the british states has the israel, i know they've been accused of getting during this in the past,

borrowed from the nato play book when it famously blew up mail great tv in yugoslavia. in this destruction of the, the big tower and gaza housing, media organizations. it's a lot more day just now. and then when i was a bold correspond, but in the, particularly in southeast asia, because now your side that is for side representing the people whose use paypal role, broad, caustic overnight, ization side to all right. making for you your target. uh and uh, but at the very least these palestinian tamara men, photographers and journalists, they are targets. but every origin was now a targets. go into some broad structure in london into the corner that pays tribute to journalists who died in, in, uh, covering covering was, and where they are. so names,

the names are listed in the last few years. uh, that indicate the trend. but uh, the us in particular, definitely give a damn with your journalist or whether you have a, a line you're hanging around your neck that says john was, you'll get shot. this riley is of course know that they don't give a damn. they don't even consider it. you'll get short period. john, i'll stop you. the more from you on pills you're up to the break when we discussed double standards from china to the torture of juliet the or what else? they just don't have to shape house the constant and engagement equals the trail.

when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground, the welcome back to about 2 of us special in to be with jump, build your input when we talked about the atrocities taking place in garza, the country currently holding the presidency of the un security council is china, which failed to persuade joe biden, to issue a resolution on the current slaughter of the people's republic, demonized by nato is the subject of john village's 2016 film becoming more on china . this was the distinguished historian theo drawer, h y 105. so to the white house of a speaking in the 19 sixty's press, china is too fast to be governed by mercy. yet if chinese mind craves order,

they must be brought to recognize they are the biggest factor in the world's disorder of the. and we must untangle the madness of the mind. the most difficult task in the world is to reach the minds of men who h u. what, what was really complaining about? what's the loss of a china that the imperial west could dominate eclipse from john villages? the coming war in china there as far as johnson deploys britons h. m is elizabeth. that club carry. is it going from china? i'm still here with john field. you joins me from sidney and australia while of israel is britain and strategic military partner. we're told the nature of nation media day of today that our enemies to our national security, russia and china, china holding the rotating presidency of un security council. you said the coming war on china. how have you noticed? the difference here is, are gods,

palestine with china are apparently trying to force the issue with a statement from the un security council to go overseas 5 against the wishes of the united states. will hold true of the whole campaign against china and the campaign against palestine. one on the same thing it is about control is about the imperial powers at a certain time in the history threatened, they feel threatened. they're not actually threatened. they have threatened and economic times in the they may uh, their, their economic prosperity is receding, bought. uh, so in order to correct this, uh, they play with the prospect the bull. it's a terribly dangerous game. when i made becoming more against china and that was in

2016, i wrote the title almost as a provocation. if i was doing that, so now i would say it's a reality in a few short is china from being in many sense. so it's a strategic ally of the west, certainly in the circle war against terrorism. it was, uh and uh, its uh, the relationship of, uh, uh, trade and currencies. this was a peaceful, a peaceful relationship. and a change with the circle pivot to wager. and what we have now is which has never reported. and this is very important because it's basically a silence for a propaganda war. there are 400 active bases surrounding china.

but us spaces based off here in australia with probably the one of the most important a pine gap, all the way up through the philippines, thailand, korea and japan. so that we have bases now which are primed for nuclear attack. uh uh, you know, from, uh well, uh and a korea uh pointer china, something like 5 or 600 miles away. that's the kind of provocation that way, living with day by day. now that's almost never use that as the dangerous stage, but worrying leaving us in a stage when they could be mistake or accident. and it becomes a nuclear war. and the china adults and in military times, trying to it doesn't threaten that. he bought a, it's made, it is major very clear,

the water. it's interest to this business in trading uh, in uh, in, in, in development, in, in making its own people. a prosper us in a way that they have never known you. when you're in china, you have a history is like a presence the history of trying to ride through the 19th century as a, a colonial, impoverished servant of the west. uh, they feel that they call it the, the century of humiliation that's over. and the speed and it's been, it's, it's over in a very spectacular way because china has risen to the point where the thing in the west can do it can do and often do it better. almost tough of all we're trying

these covered, vax in is going to other countries that's indicative if i've tried those development policies. this is, this is the beginning of a world based on development. it's not good. you know, that doesn't mean to say, but i grade power itself doesn't have the uh, present difficulties for all of us. but the difficulties are much diminished if that grade powell is not a miller tree aggressor. there's only one military aggressor in the world, and that is the u. s. back by u. k, back by its vessel states, australia. and the reason for that is that the u. s. has realized its losing its economic dominance, but what it does have, or it thinks it has is military dominance. it's a very dangerous time as plus,

you know, the news here that we get that i mean human rights watch them as the cooling claims of human rights abuses. engine jang, true, we in use every day about the um, the oppression of the oligarchs actually in, in hong kong, britain, upgrading is nuclear weapons and has sent h m. s. elizabeth. it's the black sea protecting us from russia, and it's headed for the south china sea. what do you think goes through the minds of the soldiers on board? a jim is elizabeth the 2nd and boris johnson. yeah. when he sends our aircraft carrier, they're drawing a pandemic. well, they will be told a story and they can hardly be blamed for what is going through their minds, frankly, with the are they across carrier that goes cost billions. and who's a craft uh, by courtesy of the united states and those a craft and work for a while anyway. uh, it would be in

a very black sense. so be funny if it wasn't so serious. uh, there's no reason to come from china or in the south trying to say, uh, most of the stories that lives in zang about the way it goes out. now propaganda without evidence, without the evidence in fact ensued in saying there was a problem with the uh, i think it's the, what was the coal, the east took us down. freedom movement which the us state department describe as one of the most extreme terrorist organizations. so china has a terrorism problem in, in the province, waive a whether or not try know is being able to handle secessionist problem. the same that the soviet union does had, and many of the countries of had a. but there was no evidence whatsoever us that there is the kind of

a suffering that has a worthy of the description genocide. but some genocide i should remind you, came from the lips of mike pompeo, who described himself as a lyle and most of the circle the evidence has come from a researcher now associated with the driving style and foundation in washington call. adrian sans uh, if you look at zones is uh all his so co documentation uh its uh, documentation used by and the state and many of those. it's fraudulent to agencies that obviously we do invite him on the program and people can see our interview with a week, a counsel bus and on the show and our youtube channel. i mean, you, you mentioned earlier about, um these, uh, bases around china. i mean,

obviously track and trace of a cove. it is a problem here in britain and we don't seem to be able to track and trace corona virus infection. but there's the, there seems to be a large number of bases that are tracking and tracing on her every moves and just tell me what pine gap is, what pipe piney gap was set up by the c i a in this new relo springs was set up in the late ninety's and sixty's. uh for many years it was denied uh uh, the stranger and government denies that it was an american base. they described as a shared facility. it wasn't that nothing and that kind. it's a completely american run. facilitate with a strange and employee is but as the strange and intelligence and us intelligence is completely integrated, that's not a problem. is it certainly one of the most important places in the world. and then

what's known in his release document showed that to be uh, a base that spied right across asia, right across china, right across russia. uh, i may just by operation not a defensive operation. aspire operation. so at the moment, uh, it probably is the major spied base on, on, on china or, and all the other imagine the enemies of uh, of the united states. and it was, of course, julian assad. you helped snowden avoid the clutches of, of the united states, perhaps at ga, just a very quickly. what have you heard about? what is happening in the science case? biden doubling down. it seems on 175 years for the world's most famous john list. but it was some wasteful thinking for a while,

but the by the administration may not carry on trumps to suit of purely on the song it is. and it's now heading for the high court in london where it will probably, uh, happened in uh, in the awesome peps september, october. uh, and what's the high court will decide whether there was any credibility in the us, appealing against this decision to let trillion go? my own site and say is, and i feel fine, you know, of a sudden making this prediction is a tool and will be set free by suddenly type. so because he in bobby's a pain bodies, the very resistance stuff we've been talking about in this program. it's the resistance of inflammation, of transparency, of, of

a whole moral purpose of resisting the forces of oppression. a julian himself. and his case exemplifies that. that's why what happens to him. this is so important to all of us, john pills you are there, and this is being a special tribute to john pill, jack, who has died condolences again to his family and all of his friends and comrades. see you soon, the dangerous embrace. when joe biden bear hug benjamin netanyahu, stan brace design is the agenda and all its deadly consequences. no matter how the american administration wants to parse as rules. and israel's war on guys with united states is ultimately accountable for israel's military campaign.

the don't yet citizens come under heavy shelling from ukrainian armed forces just the minutes into the new year with reports of both people killed in more than a dozen wounded russian president vladimir bruce and addresses the nation as law school celebrates the new year, wishing all including those on the front lines best wishes for the holidays. you know, so for claims 2020 for the year of the family in russia. then you you sure thing. we will become even stronger. we are together, and this is the strongest guarantee of rushes future. congratulations, my dear, happy new year 2024 and a is ro, intensifies is a tax across jobs as.