tv Cross Talk RT January 5, 2024 1:30pm-2:01pm EST
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jewish girls, sexual abuse, headings, they are wired, they are silent. now clearly that will elicit a reaction because many said that he was doing the but her mos argument and not actually really talking about the allegations that were sent against him. now of course there, as i mentioned, there is a divide. there are a lot of emotions going on and us political science as an active as foreman, single scene. absolutely went after him in a recent podcast saying that 3rd to it was a lie plagiarizing hypocritical bully. now apart from all of this is a former, as really intelligence officer already been menache, a claim that he was present during meetings with fluid and uh, robert maxwell, sealy maxwells father served as an, as really intelligence officer and stuff free of seen in the eighty's and says all of these things have been put out there. and this has sort of led to this debate as to, is this really about what i've seen did and about culpability. or is this now more
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towards the political climate where israel is, you know, being accused of so many crimes against humanity. and now of course, this is also yet another turn against them. but what is this has to be said is there is no smoking gun evidence, because in this case was largely resolved and is now just about what people thought they knew. and now they're, they're feeling vindicated as to these names finally being released. and some are say, these aren't even all the names. how early you said that there could be a lot more or maybe yeah, but they had to come. thank you. ask your and i for all of that to inside you bus was now. thank you. great. now the president, all the east african nation of uganda has called for a fellow member states of the british commonwealth to reject the western imperialism. a local report that brought us this details. during the opening of
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advanced settings conference of colonial countries, the president of your gun that he's explained, is there a couple tell him 70 begun by criticizing the west point, causing you to attend to foreign countries without respecting the party sees and find use of those countries presenting somebody also aimed at the catholic church, which has been the to the western countries. instead of respecting the history of the church, which she says has cosmo probably been provided solutions for is that this call may come up to the united states of america. as it should be, the restrictions to some governmental officials in uganda, including the speaker will part of me for passing the anti homeless actually to know which the width say is that it is again, is the human rights. however, obese has notes, cad locals in, you've gotten to a sam see this as an opportunity for the country to cooperate with other countries that with respect to gun does. but it was on preschools without compromise. aimed at providing mutual respect, cooperation, and working together between countries. the fields people see come 1st one for 3
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days in january, beginning from $5.00 to $6.00 of this month. and am that providing relationship with because and presiding will cease as a commonwealth countries will find a common pro and custody of such a r t and not the old davis. alice, you can visit archie does come for more details of as fairly, as we're following. i'll see you again the the
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hello and welcome across the top. were all things are considered. i am peter level . the genocidal assault on gaza has made itself felt in a variety of ways in terms of geo politics, united states and israel stand together virtually alone and isolated the complex cuz also seen the rise of extreme censorship all across the western world criticizing israel and sign is and has become essentially a criminal act, so called western values are now meaningless. the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess rein, mcgovern in raleigh. he is a former c. i a analyst in seattle. we have ramsey, my route. he is a power speed officer and journalist and in new york we crossed to line on the as a legal and media analyst or
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a gentleman cross type rules and the fact that means you can jump any time in one. and i always appreciated pilot start with ray, and i'm in raleigh. we we have this phrase. it's often used. it's called the writing on the wall. and it comes from the book of david. and i would submit to all of you and our viewers that we see the writing on the wall. we see what is going on . no, it's up to you how you interpreted and react to it. but you will be judged by what we all see on the wall on it. i don't want to go into high perfectly here, but if you don't want to see the writing on the wall, then you're lying to yourself, which is the ultimate sin. right? you're lying to yourself or you're a completely delusional and thinking that the us is completely all powerful, as it used to be, the king bosses are. and the hebrew scriptures as got really worried about things.
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and there was hardly a handwriting on the wall. i had quoted interpreter, they've got all his expertise that he's got, all of them. they are kind of in everything and the zip code, can you tell me what this means? only daniel could only so you're a travel, the king bosses your k numbers about to go. so i think you're right and quoting that, what we have here is a application both to ukraine. and now 2 guys as well. the handwriting is on the wall. the only problem is that in those days there were no nuclear weapons that a, you know, ramsey, 1st of all, thank you for getting up so early in the morning for us to abide and he's a, he's an odd politician. that is, that's an understatement. he admits that there is excessive indiscriminate bombing going on. these re lease or indescribably bombing cause a physic ministration has admitted this, but it continues to fund it. so he is complicit. this is just as much of his war as
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it is nothing yahoo! and he has to own it because the history is going to judge him very, very badly. because the phrase jennifer genocide, joe doesn't come out of being here, ramsey. absolutely, i mean we of course, often link. so it's an american president's to um, to southern countries and so the horse, so we say this is, uh, this is bush, is laura, this is uh uh, obama is war. but so this is going to go down in history as vines as war. and uh, in terms of time conclusive, i think it's a lot more then complicit is directly involved in this war. it's remember that from the very, very 1st day you had the last some emptiness making. secretary of state, heading to tel aviv sitting in the war council meeting. declaring that this is that as well, how to know and mobilizing international support in oral this was on behalf of
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israel. so the americans were not trying to hide it. we don't really need to know much, what's going on based on various of this be the self worth 10 of us. not only this is the war, but the does not want to want to stop when the entire international community continue to hold for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. declaring enough, is it not by then and his still cause say no carry on. how much gonna win is, will must emerge when or into as well, because he understood it. likely that defeats his will, would be as it be a wash something in the middle east. so that's why you can only continue defense finance. so for the war and so this day, well no matter how this ends, israel is lost, it is lost on so many different levels. and we will, i want to talk about the day after i find new,
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quite odious the they to israel and the americans are talking about the day after when they objectified palestinians. still again, let me go to you. joe finally said, you said many times to be said recently that i am a scientist. no, i know americans are not very well educated this the better now than they've ever been before. and i'm very happy about that. but i know that's something that the is really political elite wants to be here. i don't think americans necessarily understand what that means. but is, is ramsey is already pointed out. the global south knows exactly what it means. again, complicit libel. the words here are never ever said by accident i, we've talked very tired. i'm a lawyer by profession in words. mean something. statutes means something. the particular expression of something. i mean, also, if i could say something before, i forget, you know, you always hear people say you never take antibiotics successively because what
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you're going to do is you're going to create antibiotic resistant. springs of new things you never thought were there. we have completely up to skate and we have ruined the terms. zion is edgy, semitism, apartheid genocide, ethnic cleansing, c international law, the un, nobody knows anything. and one more thing i have been doing this, i have been a listen to this, a professional called talk to a person for 35 years and up till now. something happened number one was always think say whatever you want, but when you use the word is real in any, so it you better never be or, or, or, or verify or beer from the official narrative. that's number one. number 2, something happened if something is different now versus october the 7th years ago and we had the intifada one that divided 2 americans were like, all those, those crazy middle easterners look at the way they do it. i'm telling you they'll never be peace. there any way they'll figure it out. this change,
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i don't know what it is, the calculus of change. why does different social media? who knows? but what i'm saying is america in american politics are living in oblivion. if you watch fox news, you will swear you will say, what is the big deal. meanwhile, the rest of the world, i don't want to stay cloud schwab but, but the great reset is upon us. but this reset, this put it this way, this pendulum is going to come back like a wrecking ball. everything is changed. now, whatever the narrative was 510 years ago, it's over with. so get ready. embrace yourself. right? you martin government for a long time. you actually brief president's of the united states. so you know, you were in the belly of the beast as it were. how do we get to this point? okay, because it always hasn't been this way. i mean, when, when joe buying right after october, 7th, flew to israel to give a bear hug to the most popular man in the history of the state of israel. i mean, did these people have any strategy?
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they have any idea how they look to the rest of the world. i don't think they do. i don't think our president is fully accomplished, meant ish. as having been said, this has been going on for a very long time. in the eighty's, for example, when you saw the federal notes in the colonial session that was going into the west bank and elsewhere, it was clearer, isabel, we had photos of it up that goes though, and yet no one would touch it, no one, even those but the integrity like separate char, george schultz, a clinton doctrine. now, after the attack on iraq, general brent scowcroft, who had been national security advisor and want us go to a real estate post as head of the foreign intelligence board for younger bush. he said something to the financial times and it was this ariel sharon
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has our present, mesmerized. he has our president wrapped around his little finger just as the one that's your yahoo is in the living room. what else can set you? is i to turn that video camera off but yeah, i don't know that. yeah. ok. that he says, you know where it goes, my god, the so easily moved. a personnel deliver good support is it's, i'm sure and quote that you know now will it be the same? it has been up till now will sooner hits prevail were either sadder heads. i don't know if anyone approval or except those people surrounding guys a right now whether they will tolerate much more of this carnage much more of this genocide. and it is a text book page of genocide. yes. and this is the, the ultimate conclusion of design is something that's a bit, this is,
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was so easily predictable. you know, ramsey um, obviously, uh, being in the media like like a line. oh, i talked to a lot of people and i talked to no graduate student friend. and um, you know, i mentioned, he said, yeah, it's a so complicated and it's just such a longstanding, complex. and i said, well, no, it's actually not longstanding, and it can be solved. that's called the end of the occupation. and he said, what, occupation? this guy has a ph. d in history. this is what we're up against, ramsey. right now, you know, why is this the case? why is it so that will educated americans are completely informed of what is happening in palestine at the moment. well, you know, i've traveled, you know, across the global south, many, many countries i've been to over 50 countries from africa to south america, so asian elsewhere. and yet the average person seems to be well educated. the highest on even general impressions are out of sight. are far greater than the
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maximum knowledge that americans have, and that's where the american media comes in. i mean, these guys are going to go round the clock 247 yet somehow you will watch cnn watch fox. you watching a m s a, b, c. and you kind of leave with the impression that you know a lot less then you began with the challenging to know this is why there's a major change that is happening land. no, that's the one that's already or but yes, the major change that is happening is that you have so many alternative platforms venue voices in for the one source. and we are in one way or another using social is using american. we just went through the knowledge, we are testing the main stream media on how to start doing it one more time to catch up with us now. and that's really the major change that has happened in this particular one of that's what else? again, there is no longer working is that is what was the problem again,
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that is actually being challenge. well, it runs, if i can stay with you, i mean the 1st of all, every one of my what my audience knowing my guess and now that is, i know so much about the conflict in palestine because of our guest ramsey. i read everything that he ever, uh, writes, everything me comes out very often an anti war dot com, which is i'm very thankful for that. but, you know, one of the things it's very important to, to point out is that there is a change of consciousness, right? now, because it's really hot, right, it's, it's really sloppy now, or maybe i just began to notice, go ahead. it's does look sloppy now, but the theory that i read strongly in is that it's always been sloppy and just we just did not exist on the other side of the composition. whatever that is, what you just said, this is why we can be divided. this is why we bombed the baptist hospital and ship up. this is why we do the things we do. well, if know what is that to say you're wrong and to expose you after the set,
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the videos that you produce, pay, what are the allies and what are the tools are? well, you'll get, you're going to get to get away with slightly trying to demand some of the information. right? the have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine. stay with our team. the welcome back. across stuff were all things are considered. i'm futile. bill, this is the home addition you mind you were discussing palestine the okay, let's go back to long island, new york. and i know, as you well know, i've been out of the united states for a long time. and so maybe you can explain something that has happened since i left . apparently there's rapid anti semitism in the united states, which i,
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when i left, i wasn't aware that that was the case. so what happened now that's been a long time. i'm going to agree with that. but, you know, i turned on the news and it looks like, you know, they're in the countries been taken over by a named a baseless nazis. go ahead. well, it's funny you say that and be selective use of the term. nazi, if you were to mention that, for example, in ukraine, if i were to talk about the as a battalion or the right sector. and i mean it's different. it's one of these terms at large. um, i don't know if you gentlemen have been following this absolute just strikes you. but as you know, in some of our ivy league schools, some of the presidents of the school have said that before we provide the blanket prohibition again, speech at a university, there has to be something in terms called context. and we have other members of congress as, as are you saying the genocide is because i know this is in genocide, it's the use of the term genocide. so what's happening is, is as, as,
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as i mentioned before, the word anti semitism and anti zionism and anti israel have become somehow amalgamated into there's been a globule of confusion. and because it's been you so much like in our country, the word racism, everything is racism, sexism, it's another is a. so in the meantime, you have this world right now and let me just say, just one thing. the trick that people need to do, and i've been studying communication and observations and post code very particular . russo phobia grumbling, but you name it, you stick to a particular narrative. and one of the things you say is simply this. this could be sam handle very simply. once we get rid of an anomaly from us. now stop right there . what does that even mean or we will do this so long as the palestinians do not like too much. so the question though is, how do we tell somebody home to a like, 1st of all, we say you have to have elections that we say you can have an election, but you can elect these people. so what's happening most americans,
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i'm sorry to say, and this may, i may be the ultimate uh, ugly american. but there seems to be this almost an infantile lism, this man and he in less than right, good or bad, evil back. and that's it. don't complicate me, just tell me who's a bad guy, cuz i've got to move on and i've got to watch sports or whatever it is. so when it comes to confusion, this is the epicenter of confusion, right? jump it. i think lionel is completely right, is, is zionism and anti semitism had been, it couldn't flight is by act of congress together. and the worst thing is that even the good reporters and they're really all a home back before iraq does the land they. and warren struggle with knight ridder, they've got it right on weapons of mass destruction. land is worker for writers. mobile is work better for the wash, the wall street journal. and this spinning propaganda about the russian is losing
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90 percent of the troops shooting the career. and i mean, you know, it was a good guys need to earn a living, i guess. but i don't experience that certainly they can come with us and tell ultras. yeah. and there's a, there are a few heroes out there, but uh, you know, i, i want to, i want to, i don't want to be, so custom is, i, i'm, i'm so pardoned by the fact that people that are challenging this. and it's causing a lot of turbulence here, but you know, ramsey, you know what other things we just want to make very clear to our viewers. there's a mouse has to be destroyed. well, on the face of it, that can be debated, obviously. but it's, it's a code for ethnic cleansing and the mainstream media and the political lead are 100 percent behind. you know, we just want to get rid of them us. well, the only way you're going to do that is completely cleanse and commit a genocide against 2200000 people and it is in train. you know?
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oh, that's not possible. you're exactly know what's happening. everyone is happening. the mass has to be destroyed. indeed, is it called peter, and we need to decode it. why didn't the time you emphasize, for example, from the very beginning to this day? how much is isis? how much is a either? what do you mean by that? is that there was 11 way to deal with the terrorist devices in your walker and syria. and that's to eradicate them to push them out. people, one buses, the car and, and elsewhere and just pushed out of the country somewhere. and that doesn't, we don't know, we don't care whether you go, he thought, if you could actually create that scenario, how mazda and there's some courses in god. but it's different from us, like it was. he is a national rehabilitation movement. that's a great, we didn't define boundaries, they don't want to clearly fate. they don't want to take over other countries. they want, do they provide their own countries and they constantly make references to international
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law is unbelievable. how often, how mass makes references to international law. and how lead the absent the elements of law and international law firm is what any political discourse this is dangerous because the american sport of so the french for some reason important. so along with the drum, as the british and the everybody got excited about, the idea will be right with you to come up with the larger, meaningful dot is that we need to you as a good time us, everybody will support from us any particular context of social context will come up, therefore we need to destroy the city of people in gauze. i've seen that simple a don't a line. well, and that is, that's a message that is like, is not being received in the, in america. you know what i'm saying is absolutely right line or is it, it's really quite interesting if you do you watch international media, even state media around the world. there is very, very often references to international law because that is what gives the countries
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protection when you grow up in america, in some degree in that u. k. um, international law is only convenient. we mentioned when it works for you. other than that, we're right, we're virtuous people, so we're going to do what we're going to do. and it's very interesting is that people have resistance movements. that's one of the only tools that they have against the powerful is international law. and obviously with your own eyes, you can watch the endless amounts of video coming out of that. and he's like, well that is the way sion, the international law, international humanitarian law. i don't know what is, well, you know, it's funny if, if, if you held up, if you gave the scenarios to students law students, international law, and you just cover to be said country a did the following or hold up an x ray, ahold of a lab result to do what is this pregnant? dead, broken leg. that's the way most people think of of law is if you do this, it is a, it is a violation. let me go back and i'm glad we brought up 911. i learned these
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wonderful images, for example, the better to find them there than here. oh them oh. and the smoking gun could be a could be a mushroom cloud. oh them. and they also said there hasn't been a $911.00 since $911.00. there hasn't been a world what. what does that mean? there hasn't been a world where jews is what we're doing. and what happens is when you're very good at semantics and you play this and you act like terrorism is identified by evil evil. we're going to stop able to access of evil and you use terrorism as to how much is a place or, or anybody's waste. and also one more thing relative to the people ask japan was they thought about, you know, the no, le gay. and they wouldn't have a different version of the dropping of the atomic bombs versus us. we lot. we applaud those are our troops, but we never can put ourselves in the position of somebody else. because very luckily, the only thing we've had on our soul now soil rather not what is 911. and that is
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in no way enable us to really comment on what people around the world are or feeling and existing every single day. we have been lucky by virtue of our democracy, of our geography, which is another thing americans know nothing about that where anything is. yeah, you know, right. i leave, i guess really, prime minister said the, you know, on october 7th, israel experience multiple 9 eleven's been okay. fine, that's no big is why it was time like maybe that's one of your interpretations, but i would retort in any journalist worth their salt would say. so how many? 911. how does the people of god that experience since that day? see, they expect this, this posting to answer enough people. it's not a place, it's just a problem. it's not on, you know, and if it is like someone else solve, it will, but we'll pay for it. there's so much power this when it comes to that, you know, it all to my life and it was already mentioned, you know,
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you didn't have to tip toe around, know, speak truth, this truth will give you justice, right? i think that there are bright lights here, and that is the fact that they use in this country. they all have these. i phone, see, iphones are the latest technology and they can cause revolutions. ok. they care about the telegraph, where you back a century ago. the think about the tape recorder, where all of a was taping is sherman, that came from all a mental reps. and if that, what is revolution? now we have the i phones, young people in our country are being affected by the photos by the video. it's coming out of out of gas i. now, i think that there is a reason for a whole lot of those kids. they can't go on forever. and my only my only fear is that the surrounding country is around the palestine, as we are the arab countries and also turkey and iran. how long can the whole back
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their own populations? many of whom are palestinians, how long could they escape it forever and not go and stop the carnage? stop the genocide. i don't know. the answer to that rosy, probably does. but i'd like to hear his views on that. yeah, i'm seeing, you know, you know, we have 2 western tablets, anthony blinking is talking about the day after and he's going to consult with nothing you know about the day after. well, when did it tell us because we could have given the chance to say this is what we want. that's never there. and maybe you have the of the occupation and then that can give breathing room and in variety, and discussion and new ones. but they will never be that if the company a, if the occupation continues a lot of times on policy is what's that mean? is this going to cut and paste sort of thinking about the middle east and about the world. in fact,
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what works in the early ninety's would work in 2003 would work in gaza today. but it's not true at all. what will happen in the day after is going to be determined by the people goes on by the palestinian people themselves as will be determined by the other nations that are why is it in sort of attitude with garza? i mean people off with often and they showed what are the, are nations, how come to not standing up for their brother in laws and as a is actually the all, if you don't what's happening in, in living on what's happening you up was happening in the human and elsewhere, they are, there is a view, middle east identity that is being formulated. and this is going to hunt the american administration for a very long time. but they often garza is or would it be she by the fighting issues idea by the steps, past missile over 4000000 people in gaza. and why is the thing that is happening outside the school of american control in palestine or throughout the middle east?
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right. gentlemen, i have to jump in here, we've run out of time. fascinating, the schedule, and i think my guess in raleigh, seattle, and in new york. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. ok. so you next time. remember ross knuckles the over a 100 people i killed in $301.00 didn't these really? it's the attacks in gaza in less than $48.00 policy, an engine both the north and south of the region, the struggling to survive. these riley defense many stuff float the post war planned for gather, including full military control over the region as estimated to 1000000 people attend raleigh's throughout the admin and the massive show of support for palestine and the leader of hezbollah. apply just a.
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