in photos, budget of the department says elusive is quickly met, filed large corps from both sides of the aisle and saying they do not support a military and what to make america less safe, being unpatriotic and not supporting our military is almost just as damaging of a label as being a racist, homophobic or any other typical ap jackie's ation based on hate. so let's discuss it all with our panel, robert patel. a political analyst. angie, won co host, the final countdown and cry. rom, man, as host of the rob manners show. thank you. so much for joining me. thank you. thank you, comments. i want to start with you on this one because the iris has bring on 30000 new employees over the next 2 years. would be $80000000000.00. it was given from congress back in 2022. how do you feel about the us government being more concerned about it? citizens, financial accountability and count ability rather than its own. it's, it's almost beyond belief, scotty and thanks for having gone. you know, there are people, the question might be or commitment to the armed forces of the united states of

america. i spend half of my time sliding to make sure that the defense department is taking care of its troops. who are the ones that are going to have to go die biting, die in the, a lot of these wars that most of us don't even support anymore. so, you know, we have to come to grips with this because i'll, i'll take you back to early in the days after the 911 attack, when secretary donald rumsfeld had to stand in front of the american people. when the iranians and the militias were killing our troops because we sent them overseas to i wrapped in a dentist in, in an armored bees. and he had to say, well, you have to go to war with the army. you have come on. we have a decade, snell decades for decades, we have had the opportunity to repair that kind of thinking in our inductor,

old establishment inside the department of defense in each of the armed services. and we still can't pass an audit because we can't keep track of all the arms and the weapons that we've set overseas. we can't even keep track of our real property . we buy buildings build buildings by land, uh all the time. and i remember one of the audits were we couldn't even account for all the buildings that the united states department of defense ed, because we needed to inventory so we could sell them off off on closed military bases. it's unbelievable. it's despicable and what's most disgusting about it is it shows that a really crash disregard for the safety of our troops and i'm tired. it was interesting because angie this latest military budget is $2.00 to $3.00 times what china spends on its military. you have to pay to go to say, if congress does not pass,

the u. s. is in danger of falling behind. so can you explain how they can come up with this reasoning and the justification? oh sure, i mean look, you know, if you can't pass your 6 audit, let's just give you more money. let's give you a 186000000000 dollars more because you couldn't count for the last 4 trillion dollars. well, here's the problem. i'm starting to think that maybe the pentagon budget is a fact more way for joe biden to be financing on these wars that, well, maybe congress hasn't supported yet, and he seems to be okay, getting some months, be an extra 200000000 this week, or something that didn't go through congress and the last few during his visit in washington dc baggage. congress wants to have meetings with the house as search and guess why he left empty handed. all you got was 200000000, which is not small, but it only buys a couple of days in war. russia to go homeless. and now today, president clinton of russia comes out and gloves and says, hey,

we're doing great. now, our war it with ukraine. we've got 600000 service men that are, we're doing just fine because so lensky now have to think about ending the war there. there was no my, there's no light coming in. there's no were blank checks, but yeah, uh, to the point of the pentagon budget i, it seems like we're financing a lot of task congress. and we have to be very mindful of that. and maybe that's where we'll find those missing trillion dollars. well, it brings up a good point, robert, because you're looking at what's going on and i want in this latest pick on budget bill actually features $872400000000.00 must pass a part of it though include a bunch of money already reserved for taiwanda, possibly going to defend taiwan cyber security deal, and it prioritizes the incas arm. so is it smart? are we not kind of already preparing to go for a war that hasn't even started yet? or if we were using it directly for that,

it would be smart. it'll be exactly what we need to be doing. the problem is leave trillions of dollars. it does go missing that are appropriate every of them for people who don't understand how significant this is part of the issue. the rest of had in the initial parts of their offense. so against the crime was up, they went to go find weapons. they've already been sold off by generals to our to arms dealers. they went to the, to find, find out that all their stockpiles have been depleted. they found tanks that didn't have engines in the because someone sold the damage and off the people. this is what happens. we have waste fraud and abuse of assist in a system as much. and we talked about existing in the russian military and chinese military. it also exist in our military and the fact that we keep going back to the well and simply saying, well, we need to build new bombers. we need to build new fighters with the new aircraft carriers. when all these new things we are preparing for a war, it gives an adversary that does not exist. and the fact is that because the military contractors have, have facilities in every single congressional district. if you look at the way that

major products are bill, if you're building a new f $35.00, or if you're building a new b $21.00, you'll have the engine is coming out of missouri. you'll have the wings coming out of alabama. you'll have the landing gear coming out of texas because they sprinklered around to every congressional district know congress, 1st thing to vote against it. and it be comfortable came up that we can't get control and we can't find money for schools. we can't find money for health care, we can't find money for many problem problems we have in america. but because of the way we do military contract will always find money from the weapons, which is a very scary point. because once again, and i'm going to go to it to you, chrome minutes on this one, does it hurt if we already know that there's a conflict coming? does that not also hurt diplomatically in solving it before we actually go to work and to roberts point about putting it around. there's a reason why congress people can't vote against it. they can probably go to get somebody going into something else, but they can't vote against money going into their districts because they'll be ultimately held accountable. i feel like we're on a hamster well when it comes to this,

a little bit of moral courage. they could vote against it for the right reasons, you know, for, for instance, of this current bill that was just passed by the house and the extension. the reauthorization of $5.00 to $7.00 o 2, which is used to surveil american citizens and break our for so you violate our 4th amendment rights. but the, the roberts point though, you know, it wouldn't be smart if we were spending the money for the right reasons in building up a deep current source to deter china. that's the, that's how you keep the peace through strength and to focus strategy and expenditures and resourcing of the right forces at the right moment in time. and that is this moment, but that's not what's happening. you know, he mentioned that though, you know, the another there, and you mentioned another 200000000000 to ukraine, ukraine's asking for another 61000000 from congress in a losing more effort. it's been obvious as the day it started or before, but this was going to be

a losing effort. and it's not helping our national security here in the united states or even nato's a credibility. it's actually farming us, the longer it goes up. so we've got to get back to doing things that are preparing us to fight a war. but the time that adversary, which is the chinese communist party, instead of having to have the ability through weakness, to take us to the brink of war and even into war, allowing the adversary to do that. that's the way you end up with peace through strength, not what our current approaches. but angie that, that is what you used to have. republicans are known for spending money is to purpose money sometimes wasting it. in this case it's the democrats that are in charge. they're spending the money, but guess what? the republicans aren't stopping it. so why are the republicans, if they're so angry about, or maybe some of them are starting to get on board and open up and realize that

they've been use the past 2 years. why aren't republicans putting the stop in the brakes on this type of spinning and this type of waste? but you would think after 6 audits, there would be some consequences, right? but here's the thing called, this has nothing to do that they're not gonna hold. they've had to gone in contempt . why? because there's big defense, money involved here, and they sprinkle money all over congress on both sides of the aisles. no one's going to say no, it's and money, especially if congressional numbers, all they care about all year round is how am i gonna fund raise for my re election? so that is the, the circular problem that we have here at the moment is, you know, our congressional numbers. they're being, i'm watching the launch. we're right now. they're being paper dividers, right? they're talking, talking, talking big talk. but ultimately they're gonna do nothing. and that's why we're on our 6 audits, and there's been no accountability whatsoever. the real problem of why we can't do the audit is because the specials did not provide enough to the auditors to

actually do anything. right. and if i didn't give my accountant all the information to do my taxes every year, cast what's gonna happen to me? right. but with the pentagon, nothing will happen cuz there's no account ability from congress. so that's where we need to put the pressure. well, here's the thing just this week, general pump our pump have for secretary of state by joining major defense contract . and board surprised surprise took him 3 years, very little press given to that. but obviously he's been one of the biggest pushers of any sort of war that he could get a part of. we know that camp presidential candidates for sat on boards of major defense contractors. why are we not? why are we not making these politicians, even tv products, where stickers like nascar, of who actually respond to them and why this is motivating their words that they're speaking? oh, because the revolving door, if you think about well our current secretary defense lloyd austin was a defense contractor. but then under trump, our secretary of defense, esper, was a boeing defense contractor. there is, there's a, there's an investable tie between our government and the military,

and the monetary you can go back to, you can go back to eisenhower talking to the military, industrial complex, you can hold. the gills got here and we talked with the military and the monitors, and the mom is here to come together whenever it's necessary to turn this planet into a cemetery. we are in a country that profits off of war. the one part, the, the american economy that will never go into research and is the war based economy . and it's going to be up to the american people to stand up to this because of you, of, i think of the american people really understood the american military footprint around the globe, remember, and trumpet ministration. the 4 soldiers died in these year, and many americans said, where's me, 0 it. and why do we have troops there? and then we find that we have an entire us africa command was a $100000000.00 drone base that and so a, basically we can use a force there. if you look at the, a for loop rates of american forces at every corner of the globe, whether in real, real, real garcia and the indian ocean the street to milwaukee. this is what we do. and

then told the american people demand differently and really stand up to the people and start calling as anti military anti natural defense. because we want the rain to stay and is going to continue to happen. and it has continued to happen since the end of world war 2. on that note, let's take a break because after the break, i want to continue our discussion about the failure of the pentagon to pass an audit for 6 years in a row and asked, why are, what are the repercussions of the american taxpayer continuing to fund the department without any question the the the,

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a new york the welcome back on sky here's and you're watching the 360 of you want to get to your discussion with our to sotelo political analyst and you want cuz the final countdown and colonel rob man is host of the rob manage show. angie are 1st i want to correct myself, i was wrong. it's not an american defense contractor. the general pop our search here say prepared join. it's actually a ukrainian called a company called the v on. and it's out of cube. it's a part of key of star a, an independent non executive director. wow. how is that? not a conflict of interest angie that you have somewhere in the united states that obviously has a voice still very influential in the american budget process. now he's sitting on a board with a country that is at war with someone else. wire. nobody calling file on this. there seems to be a lot of american politicians sitting on a lot of farm boards lately. so they all have their far appearance, at least at least they have their uh, you know,

foreign bank accounts and whatnot. so we should all be looking into that. um, well i'm gonna be the office at oregon is that a lot of our defense manufacturing actually takes place here in the us and we send it overseas. right? so pennsylvania being one of the largest manufacturing states, i think our zone is another one. so, you know, we actually benefit from the money going into defense manufacturing unit if it's producing shells for israel or, you know, tanks for ukraine, where you ever bridging the bulk of the work which benefits americans ultimately, which is good. but i don't know. conflict of interest doesn't seem to matter right now in all of these, the seems like it's like the wild, you know, dc, do you want to do anything because there's no accountability as you know, who's got to push back on them. ultimately, people are making money and the z like they always have. now they're just being, they brazen about it. they're just not hiding anymore. you are completely cards for that because you have conflict of interest. you have insider trading. it does it

matter. as long as you're a member of congress and that colonel man is, is that why politicians are coming into congress, maybe small amount of money, the bank account and leaving as millionaires even billionaires to a certain extent. because i don't think americans understand how politicians can personally benefit from a large military budget, which is greatly accounted for. can you shed some light on this? unfortunately, you know who, who can shed light on why a congress person comes in with a net worth of less than a $1000000.00. and then 12 years later as a net worth of $64000000.00. uh, i could just tell you that that smells, smells the high heaven, robert nancy bose, to tap into that when they were talking about the revolving door. well, we need to put legislation back into place that prevents general officers and senior officers like me from going right to a defense contractor. we need to put the legislation in place that prevents folks that have been corporate officers or board directors on the military,

industrial complex corporations from the secretary of defense or having any policy role in the department of defense of we need to apply the same standard to other corporate efforts and other departments and agencies, the federal government because it is a big cash cow and the cash is going in to their bank accounts. now upon pay. oh, he ought to be restricting from ever serving in the united states government again because he's gone to work for a defense company in a country that is the most corrupt country in the world. and i'm not even being hyperbolic here. it's unbelievable. but the other thing that we need to stop doing, and more importantly, is stop this english or policy. and robert touched on it just a bit. let me just go into that. we, we resemble a global roman empire. another roman empire wasn't global except for in the sense of its own civilization. but we are global. we are all,

we are organized exactly the same way. we carved up the different parts of the world like africa, come in, the us central command, that european command and asia pacific and in the pacific, a combatant commands. and we have these 4 star generals in charge of it. and we are leading with military force spot with deterrence, operations, not with a peaceful means to do that, but with active combat forces around this world. and that makes us weaker. that makes us weaker. and i know it's counterintuitive for those folks that aren't professionals in the world of combat. but when we're weak enemies like china will take the opportunity when they get it to do things using military force. like take taiwan back and i'm not saying that they're going to do that tomorrow, but they certainly have an opportunity because we have spread ourselves. so. but

then in all of these major conflicts, even though we may not have forces actively engaged right now, our logistics are supplies in our command and control and intelligence are all actively engaged in at least 2 major waterfront right now. and we are spread and buried then that is the exact opposite of the approach that we use during the cold war. yeah, there were some hot wars and we had to learn some hard lessons from the vietnam conflict and more. but overall, we did it piece through string to bring down the soviet union eventually. and that's but the line of thinking and strategy that we need to get back to. and quite frankly, that would increase jobs and increase payers and you brought up and robert, the to the folks are in, you know, ex county or white county at these carpet small companies on these defense contracts. they're making good money. they've got good jobs, right? that's okay. but you can do more of that through peace, through strength,

and developing strong deterrent forces. instead of going into these wars and expanding your weapons, your political capital, and, and your resources like your men and women in the armed forces under so thoroughly in it as opposed to fighting and defending your own by the national interest. and being ready to do that. and right, again, you're going off of kind of what robert set on this, robert, do you think the rest of the world right now perceives the america america is weak and are taking advantage of it? and then you have an order that comes out that we don't even know where everything's going. do you think that also as a factor of the instability and like some of the actions in the world are happening today? i just think of those the opposite. okay. i've seen that many parts of the world who simply default it to the american military being their military. i think if you look at europe, for example, of the course of the last 50 years, they've decided, well, why exactly are we going to be investing all this money into research development and building these massive army? what america can just do it. so we'll have universal health care, we'll have universal education. we'll have

a transit system that works for him. for individuals who will help pension will be able to retire at like at 55 or 50 years old. will take a siesta in the middle of the day. from like 11 am til 3 o'clock in the afternoon because the americans will handle the military side of this and be going south east asia. japan does not have a military force for about 50 years after world war 2. they're just not rebuilding rebuilding their military. but throughout the south pacific they can talk to the extra ones. well, america will handle these issues for us. so we can build advanced margaret to factories. we can build advance a i facilities, we can educate our population because we don't have the waste all that money on military because america will handle that problem. so for americans only be the country, they've only to be the best stop for uh, for security, for the entirety of the end of the world. we're going to be the hall monitor of the principal for the entire world. and we've seen, we can't even name the number of countries in our lifetime. good america has gone into whether it's the bread not of our 11 on or syria,

we're everywhere on earth. so for those countries, why exactly would even bother building a military discount because of billions of dollars? we can invest that into your own people. think america has to pay back from that. we basically taking over the role that the british empire had at the beginning of the last century, being the global police force. and were realized that the same with the british did that. this is how you bankrupting the empire by continuing to be the military and police for, for the entirety of the globe. that's an interesting pass, the fact that you're bankrupting it bankruptcy being a key dominant leader. and angie, i'm going to give you the last word on this because after 6 audits and everything we know that has not been produced from it, you would think that they would make it mandatory before they gave them another penny. but politicians and congress are not doing that, in fact, they're going on and spending it before it is even approved. do you think it is on purpose now at this stage, that those in congress that they don't even want to know what's going on. it's like i didn't know so therefore i'm not held accountable for where all of these goods

and where all the dollars are going. if it's not intentional, then the only other answer is to pity. i think this is all intentional. there certainly looks a lot cleaner to request a check from the go on going to ukraine or to the god the strip, then it is to get all the votes in congress right now, especially since, you know, the house is so divided with such a razor thin majority of the republic inside, nothing's going to get passed. even democrats, hakeem jeffries came out design as, as the do nothing congress yesterday. and that might be what's gonna happen in 2024, that speaker. my jots of might be deadlocked on every single item. that gets on the, on the house floor because of the majority and everyone has voting down party lights. so, you know, in order to get anything done, you might have to take some short cuts inquiring. just padding, the pentagon budget. and, you know, take, you know, whatever you need whenever you need it. messages there though, i mean, i think americans do not have an appetite for a lot of the foreign wars that we're fighting right now. we're always happy to

support and we're always happy to be there. but the days of the blank check, i think that's, you know, coming to a close, especially in the case of ukraine. well, i want to take my c panel quickly analyzed for our patello, angie wong, who is co host of the final countdown and kind of rob manage the host of rob manage show for this very good conversation that hopefully will continue. this is your business or even your household was run was 63 percent of its funds accounted for. would you continue to not only give but raise the amount this is exactly what the american tax parent is doing. sadly, this isn't just about a spending spree at the local mall or eating out too much. the lack of attention americans are paying to is what is what is being approved is virtually giving permission to create and continue havoc and war and other parts of the world. i have no doubt, most americans would not only stop what they were doing, but try to intervene if someone was going to hurt a child right in front of them. they definitely would not provide the gun or the

bullet use by they sell it. american should have the same conviction to do everything possible to prevent harm and pain to those around the quote. they should not want to be the finance or of such evil. i know it examples continue to be given where american equipment and supplies are being used to terrorize someone, even if it's not being held by an american soldier at that exact moment. how much blood are americans willing to have on their hands all because they didn't take time to hold those and power accountable. because when it comes to the department of defense, every petty spit could be the difference between life and death, the sky. now here's a, this has been your 360 view, say, so the

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