tv Cross Talk RT January 21, 2024 9:30pm-10:00pm EST
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the hello and welcome good prospect. bullhorn is on peter la about universal uselessness as the norm. european leaders war and how dangerous the world is. you everything in their power to make the world more dangerous. and us leaders believe with netanyahu to promise them a 2 state solution. and he says, no, discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my usual guess george, send me while we're in budapest. he's a pod cast, read the capital, which can be found in youtube and locals, and america. we have mark j is an award winning journals. alright, gentlemen, crossed type roles and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated someone with george and in budapest, um, you know, is we've been chronicling on this program. um, 2 major international crisis is the one going on in ukraine and, and uh, guides of amenities and forties both. ready of them and all through at george, um, what is your estimate that what it does? does it have a case here with this catalog real quickly what they,
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what they are doing or not doing? no real reaction to the north stream of destruction or pipelines, backing sanctions against russia, that hurt you're more than russia, but no defined security doctrine. no, we'll china policy. and last but not least in our favorites, usually a unusually cloudless elite. so where is europe in all of this, and does anybody really even care anymore charge the pacific x? the question would be to. so within the past few days, we have the german defense. minnesota bar, as the story is declaring that sometime within the next 5 years, russia is likely to attack the nature of you know, don't know how he came up with this scenario or this particular timeframe. but that was that he made this particular issue. and then we as i just made basically saying,
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you know what they, they want to get ready for it. okay. so, but if they're not ready for why wouldn't rush to do it now. ok, i will. yeah, exactly. does it rather give them time to get ready? then we have the sweden's commander in chief saying sweden needs to absolutely get ready and to mobilize for well with russia. again, where he go, this one of a sweet and needs to move this. and when was the last time rushing sweet? here we're in war and the 3 bold a state. so now got together and said we're putting together a baltic defense pack both of defense regions. not exactly what we're sure, but there's a yeah, we're putting this together and then we have the, the majors, so gold, military ship and getting things done with this military single thing means essentially no one has any site at all in any, in any democratic way about made so moving anywhere at any time that he wants
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throughout the, you know, scribe. amazing. i mean, any of those, like nato is supposed to, this thing is i think, but now find out that we're going to have this absence of mobility. so rhodes, railways, apple is everything must wake way for made so civilians you know, because they can go to help. you know that the, the last thing of, i mean any important that it's not heavy on solvency, is it not that terribly heavy? and then we have um, uh, the amount of one of my co, uh saying, okay, your a is an absolute woods time a my, you know, where, where is it, where it's facing carol, from russia. therefore, i need to go to a kia of a right away to sign a defense and security agreement of the time that she's soon ag assigned in key of uh, the other that. so we have a strange business. we have lisa, european leads, warning about this threat of war. war is imminent. and you have every single thing
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that they do and you know, in dangerous, everyone in your threat to secure against the built in, in europe. and let me continue doing the same thing. is i don't you remember a few months ago when biting made a dramatic announcement. we are close up today to nuclear on the, getting that in a time since the cuban missile addresses. and then here's the question was look, well then if we are, why don't you do something about it? just the, just, oh, so does that mean the globe has been? do you want to use the had analogy? who are the soviets and who are the americans? and i was, you know, the martin, you, we worked in the belly of the beast for a long time in brussels here. i mean, you know, i have kind of. ready out here at georgia extended this year, but there seems to be no kind of, there's no pro active this about protecting, defining and protecting your opinion. if is, it just seems to be a cause even the works. all the things that i mentioned in what george mentioned
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a reflection of washington's policy. not any one in europe specifically or yeah, because foreign policy, i mean grand scale foreign policy is hugely challenged because normally easiest thing to pull off on mission. we should always remember that the european union is very much stuff, top experimental projects tend to be going for a few years. and it's only been guiding for a few weeks when we look at some big policy, you know, international. um, you know, a g, a political grandstanding and i think you know, or as, as time goes on, brussels looks more more to be some to some to be some. so like, i'm independent. i don't a soviet state, you know, the independence. but on a republic of brussels, it's a democracy, democracy, fries, other. unless the thinking about about these institutions look what's happened to them. just very recently, you know, we've seen this momentum now gathering. so you can't really do anything dynamic. you have to molest it, still keeps shots,
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keep us male shots and see what the big moves big plays do. rush it in america. i'm china. um, but you know, at the same time we've got voted on the land bang on the drum saying we need to get more money. so he's grain and there was just come services and george rattled off, you know, the list right. well, there is consensus of a leads now in europe that we need to create more hysteria. why? because our economies are failing and sooner or later the brown stuff is going to hit the fan and we are going to face and a political upheaval. so let's create the drama. now let's create fear now and get people a tune to this idea that we could be in a wilson or we could be facing, you know, a so, but what was russia? but it's so funny that the statements that come from germany, i'm from so in other places, class with bites. and this could because bytes is always saying that, you know, it rushes lost, lost of all in the tray and you know, is on his knees. and then to europe in the st. no rush going to evade. um,
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you know, so you know, they, we, we really do need some kind of get these 2 groups of people together. and by the way, you know, which very interesting and not surprising george. and that this is all the lead to driven, i mean, if you look at what are staring the people in the continent of europe, i mean, let's take a look at the german farmers opportunity. i don't think the repeat about a war with russia. i think they're worried about their livelihood and a lovely who that is go, goes back for many of them, generation generation after generation. it's and it's being literally destroyed by the populous rules of that coalition. there have been, you know, you had administered, go on an address, you know, even just saying, you know, there's no more money, but just down the street, the next minister you said we need money for you crate. i mean, that is a little cannibal situation. but anyway, as i always say don't, that's what barbara, it's george, you're exactly right. so you do have the, the jo gonzalez. and then let's remember there's also the farmers in,
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in poland. and hungary is the lock in romania boiler, who has people who are being hit by the policy over allowing uh bolen to dump its uh, grain in the european markets, the same with the truck. cuz so again, this is a policy completely out adverse to europeans interest and yet the leads continue to uh, down this path, you know, they go to, um dob was uh, congratulate one another and then wonder, well what else can we do for ukraine? um emmanuel, my call when you have elizabeth he historically on popular use of either shopping. uh it was really the the decks on the uh, the big chairs on the titanic and um, and what's on his mind? well, here's what we, what, what more can i do for you, craig? i'm rushing off now to cape in order to assign the defense for your decision that
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to curry favor with the americans. because i don't think he cares about ukraine. ready ukraine and ukrainians. i don't think any of these you're in a way to do it off the map. i if you, if you will, you know, go a few layers in there and kind of not so politely, asking the ukranian refugees to go home. i mean, a lot of people have had enough of this, but not the lead sky going george. so the direct verity is the leads. and so despite the so that you can only crises they face, and despite the the historical unpopularity, i mean we, when you look at these, the polls say in germany, the key state in europe. i mean the, the, the boxes of the traffic like coalition historic lows. so you, you have the alternative to the extent brought to, you know, constant, the denounces fascists and whatever. and on the brink of being simply abolished, and on the surveillance by the,
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the security space there at the historic height of the room is the of the same level as the of christian democrats. and are you a new party and you left the spot in the of let's just the merge out of nowhere. and that's already doing better than any of the parties of the traffic light goes. if you think you called the message, i think, you know, people. yeah, yeah. interesting. martin and george, and i've talked about this on our comcast, is that the, the leads anyone? if the any i d o, a group of people, they don't live cuz i saw my bar, the doctor said that that's just code then you know, general challenge us empower ok. even if we're not doing a good job because when they do is they try to ideologically cancel, you want both sides primarily on the right word. yeah. and it's, it's easy to throw these, these slugs. people are institutions because nobody questions and nobody says what i own. is there any truth in that? what's the, what's worrying i think is that the council culture is really and gay. really
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accelerating within the a used to choose and is just such a level that, you know, i mean, just recently we saw in europe in parliament make notions tools clamping down on hungry and even tonight hungry. it's voting rights on a you council with the is sensational. that is the judge that product process to cancel. the democratic process continued to find out the door again. to clear out. can you much, can you imagine russians, older russians, older generation russians who are looking at that? the thinking but this is sylvia times this, is this a true story would be proud of this. you know, this is, this is a democracy that we can actually shut down in this country, you know, and there's no kickback, there's no, there's no opprobrium in the west impress to say, hey, but that's on the democratic, isn't it? you know, on the same institution we saw ok even hushed, you know, this of them use chief uh, the tulsa who basically gets off on old list federalism. you know,
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the easiest part of the super federalist at least in brussels. people who really believe that all of our problems can be resolved by having a new need. so our sales unit, so they, they will never, they would they so the same people. ready never let anyone. ready maybe you actually vote upon it. yeah, yeah, but they're not interested in democracy. i mean, the thing is that people don't understand this, but up to being in brussels or whatever decade. don't love. um, one of the things i noticed of the company is the e. u. is, can, is, is completely consensus driven organization. so it doesn't really have an internal accountability, doesn't really have an internal opposition. anybody who's sort of rebellious, have been evicted and on this volunteer, i mean, who decides what the consensus is? i'm gonna leave that as a rhetorical question, generally short break and after that short break, but continue on, especially those are really the statement that to the
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russian states never as one of the most sense community best, not getting hold of all sense and the same assistance must be the one else suppose question about this. even though we've of band in the european union, the french media machine states on the russians to day and split the smooth neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube. the question, did you say you requested the
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name of the doctor visits him that he's like i'm one of the i see it in and me say guess i am all or had a little more of a school? i thought of it easier i want says and stuff like that is somewhat of the media you got on. i'm glad you know you got one way just under then you will sit in the soda . my idea that i fits on a k, i knew i love, is that go see that? i mean, i think is going on, go see, i'm a persona of a will not be that be part of i that i, i didn't go to that almost in the see the best. so that sort of i, that i'm in to see if they have and the single man to the month of manual and all that. i don't want. ok, let me just remind them the age of the modem is off on, you know, the, i see them. joe loves it and say i could either of them. but these are, let's see, let me look to see the tennessee, but i'd video in it out of a 2nd fit on. so, being at the full, let's see on there the most to the boss on the i see the see,
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i'm let me sadie, one of us, one of the me, mcdaniel newman. but i really need the washer lady that guess i'm going with your my point of view. okay. i see. i see it goes in a 2nd. i mean either get a suffice it know thing then it's like that. and then jerry, i'm going to, i think, the interesting a welcome back to cross cells boulevard, where we discussed some real news. i switched gears is, let's talk about what's going on in gaza and the day like that is appearing between washington and. ready is really politically where it's hard, but there's never any that the daylight between the americans like to sign up my very often i don't know why i don't see what they get out of it here. but um,
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there seems to be a game of chicken, of sorts going on here. um anthony, blinking, who completely mccloud himself at uh at davos, talking about the complex. uh, you know, he's very good. you know, it's heart wrenching what's going on there. and i don't know, it was worth george lincoln or the audience because why didn't this someone stand up and say stop the war with no one did all these, it was quite god, quite quantity, but politely, for the nonsense that he was saying, what i'm getting at here of course, is that the, like the present in the united states, joe biden has gone to the point, and now this is getting to the point of observe, well, there are different versions of the 2 steps illusion. okay, that's news to me. and then meanwhile, the same new cycle, the prime minister of israel, benjamin danielle, who says, well, that will never be a 2 stage solution here. it's a game of check in or who is the biggest fool george. but it's greg question to who
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really does look a little stupid is because the americans have been playing this game for many, many years where they have a sense also of claiming that they favor a 2 state solution. the know the way we would have 2 states of the 2 state solution and never really spreading out well, what are you going to do to get the i mean, what steps that you're going to take it to in order to achieve it, they never really spell that out, but just every well that's, that's our goal. so now with this risk big uh you know, barry killing the hunting of all they wanted from let's any off. so it just a minimum just to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're down for it to stay solution, thinking about the spell it out. what it's going to look like when it's going to happen. what are we going to do to get that just just to say yeah, yeah, of yeah, we were down for that. and then that's all the americans onto the name in which on it'll give you everything you want all the on. do you want another cause and the time jago turned around is there's no way we're never gonna have a 2 state solution. and so, so he's not doing much beyond when he said, oh,
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we're not going to have time us back in guys that we're not going to have the palestinian or the i the ruling in garza now, is that we're not a, we're going to have a, a palestinian state. so this really makes the americans a stupid number. what. what do americans usually about these congressmen? you know, we're very happy about this and bernie sanders your we want a little bit longer and then it we can talk anthony, i would just talk. no, it just isn't gonna happen. i mean that, that's um, that's what, what, what's the, what's really interesting, georgia got to go to martin right now, is that the online and social media? if you say from, from the river to the sea, you're going to have a spotlight on you, but not the prime minister of israel. you can say that, okay? and it's really quite clear. and i want to make sure our audience knows this, that you know which river in which see is he talking about. it's not entirely clear
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. um, even though you can get a lot of trouble for it in social media. this is the whole point here. martin is that we, again, we've come to this point where because of the, with a, this really is talk about a 2 state solution or the lack there of and just positioned to the americans is that this is again a. ready part of a design this program of never defining israel's borders. this words the, israel's advantage isn't know, the americans will never intervene and they're not going to intervene to stop in genocide. when will they ever intervene? that's so obvious. the inclusion here are because there's no solution a, there's no real objective analysis of whether these really is a genuine us into or not. you know, to state solution is just a bus where it really doesn't mean anything. but it's kept the americans in the west quite for very long time because it's given them the material to use that case in tombs and times and times of reports, analysis and meetings, you know,
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but the reality is, you know what we are experiencing here. i think is a clash of the titans. we're actually seeing now head on this in yahoo and bites and, and i think it's going to throw into question in america on our end, in the west particularly. um, what is the relationship? what is really, is the relationship now between america and is there a, why do we keep pumping money into this tiny country, which is just messing up? and so i'm at least creating original now. i mean, the hell we've got era, i'm focused on now. fine work is each of the, you know, let's just happened the last few days. we knew we never imagined the on last week. sure. so it really is going read. so it's getting out of control. you will actually, my brother, you projected it. okay. i did, i did, i said to be tactical strikes, you know, i'm top school strikes. what exactly what the rings did i know keep on doing it. but, but you know, where does this relationship goes or, you know, nothing, you know, who now is so desperate to what he's doing now is the science for his own people. look, the americans want to force a 2 state solution on to us. and that will probably means some sort of
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international peacekeeping kind of group of the various countries policing goes or for example. and that will be the end of us. and so vote for me because i'm the only one he's got the guts to actually stand up to button and to say no. and that's now his election, right? you know, so i think um, he's really thrown down the gauntlet for bite. and i hate to put money on by them, but i think in the longer term when we talk about winners and losers, i think that's now is going to be the lose. i think he set himself up slides. i tend to things like the end of the 1st world war. nobody expected, all the empires, the fall, the ones, but they did. okay. i think both will be losers here. but. but george is something new and i have used a lot is a name the cliche out there, the bumper sticker out there is de escalate. it's just the opposite. we're seeing enormous unless. ready ition and this is something that works to me is released advantage because they're always going to call in the americans to pull their
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chestnuts out of the fire. that's the calculation here. any given wouldn't anyhow, has been saying recently and we've already. ready reference to it here, maybe something about, you know, we become less safe when we would, when we, after we went through from 11 to then you know, that one should be totally off and you know, something like that. okay. just to get your company, the southern part of love it on again, and they have the, the, because the americans are paralyzed by their own, the verse understanding of what obligations it has to the state of israel is paralyzed. they will, they will end up doing what um, when any of those and the most are right wing government, they've ever had their george. yes, i think so because of the united states is now so heavily invested in what is what it is doing, but it really can't get off. and i think that um, nothing. yeah. who realizes this? that's why he can just openly and speak like this in defiance. of knowing that all
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of the, the americans will ring their hands and say, well, we're disappointed in this statement. um, but we're not actually going to do anything about that. i know you. yes, because of the democratic congressman to say, well we, we really need to look at what arms were sending the, you know, you know, maybe we should attack some conditions. what kind of conditions, i mean, you mentioned the ad will turn around. so yeah, well what we're going to do is we're going to take these zones. i'm going to kill as many people as we can with them. what are the conditions that you're looking for and the cost to ship this i was, it was that question. there are no other condition, it's so we utilize the, the metro area who knows that the votes of the for him in washington, you got, he's got the most in washington. but does he have it in israel? probably not. you know, more than one of the interesting debates, the arisen over the course of this conflict is the face of the captives in, in gaza and the highs and from what i understand, the number of them are american and british citizens. ready citizens,
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what is the u. k, and what is the american government doing to help those citizens? or are we going to have though, the gonzalez 0 doctrine of not caring about their own citizens because that's what it looks like to me. but it seems to me that the government has no interest in those captives whatsoever. no, i think we're already there. i think that sort of the case now, you know, the gazelle earlier episode of issue some of the of used to know is, is a, an american chilean blanca who was based in ukraine and who was very well informed was very critical of the current and government and found himself a rest, it's fine himself thrown into prison. he was already ill with a complication long complications and was allowed to die. just simply allowed to die because he was really an inconvenient truth which kept annoying as let's kick about and annoying the americans. and this is a shame, a real shame on america that it can do that to one of his own citizens just because in a letter it was just
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a blush on the landscape. he needed to be removed. so that's kind of me, it was mother. and i think the same thing is probably going to happen to the poor people as well. is that they are very, very small number of people who are they all and then they can be written off. and part of the question, you know, i mean, the bigger picture here is, you know, how the political leads stay and how, how they control this on this. and, you know, who stays in po and with a bite and is really prepared to stand his ground. a business going to getting home . the problem is this goes the number of friends like what we use of the full lot. yeah. 6. yeah. the, the bible is vice presidents and the out of many head towards the israeli government. george again, you know we started out talking about um, the uselessness of europe and i compliment george for the title because that's what he came up with it. but it again with it's all the leads driven by just counting on the look toral success, which is policy that is fine. get that towards donors. sorry daughter. especially
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those exactly. donors because he says that's what matches. and you know, we sold a power of that. the israel law, they in the united states in which they, they and they got rid of 2 prominent university presidents and how and how does that happen? well, because the powerful donors, the people who, who actually are these are prestigious universities defend caved. and you know, even says hey, but this is a black woman, you can find a black woman. yes. you can. when it comes to science is money that comes 1st. and you know that that's what that message gets out, is the sum of the things you cannot do and the certain steps either above. so the interest that you cannot transgress. so that's a down to the biden's calculation. and then as far as your business on the account and counting on the fact that people are going to get tired of this,
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i'm going to get, you know, these are the, they going to get tired of the israel palestine issue and they'll go focus on something else and however useless, they come with the process, you know, as their own hostages, they're not even able to do anything about the i think the, we've all talked about here. i'll finish off the program. you know, we've had, in the 1st couple of weeks, we were outraged by the, the number of this. then we had children, women being 50 percent in the schools and then the aid workers and then the university there. and there's no into it. okay. if it was going to be an enter. ready we wouldn't be reached there, but now we uh, they've gotten people used to genocide. that's the age that we live in. okay. in social media, gentlemen, that's all the time i have. i want to thank my guess americans and. ready best and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our dc and next time remember, prospect goods, the,
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on the see the silver. so the move up to somebody how can it be that um the ship to the middle east from a country whose top officials constantly complain about shortages of munitions and military equipments through a little bit of boston llc or even maybe a little in your system and below came along the nominal facility or some of those other slash we, i'm about to the easiest to to not meet with the easiest. one bedroom above the sold will not be so kind and why are weapons from ukraine spreading over the world? to turn this country into a major arms hub will continue to bolster ukraine's and forces by rushing them occasionally use that they need to defend their country. the everyone knows very well that we don't sell but known as pineapples or any kind of children's toys. we sell women's. yes,
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we're also known in the world as homes dealers that we must not be ashamed of that . the disturbing images from the capital city of the den. yes, republic with 27 civilians are killed and 25 wounded because ukraine shows a busy markets on sunday morning. the pressure losses out to germany for intervening on israel's be off. in the genocide case of africa's taken from the international court of justice and also a head we have from a palestinian. now living an idea about how his relatives us, for instance, a 5 in java us, some have already been killed by, is really more than 25. the number of my house is gone. my father also is where we are
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