what a difference a year makes in the world of politics from the american mainstream media to the halls of congress, and even states who share borders with ukraine. little by little, we've witnessed and erosion of support. today we'll talk to a former ukrainian diplomat and whistle blower who will break down just why the veneer of victory and support for the little mirror zalinski is quickly fading. alright, let's get into the m o the . what would you do if you witnessed wrongdoing by your government? how would you react if your own government sanctioned a nazi hit on your life? that's exactly what happened to our next guest in 2020, before the conflict in ukraine unfolded. and as more stories like his come to light and helps explain this, erosion of support and confidence in the proxy war waged against russia using

ukrainian blood and treasure joining us for analysis and to tell us his side of the story. this is andre. tell us jenko he is a former diplomat for ukraine once based here in the us. he's held several high positions within government, including advisor to allister and prosecutor general victor shogun. andre, thank you so much for being with us. first, i'd like to address the media smears, but you endured back in 2020, just weeks ahead of the us elections. now, mainstream media outlets such as cnn and, and b, c, they wrote articles about you calling you a, this information agent. they said that you lied or misled us. officials about that in the tories, hunter, bite and laptop, things of that nature. now, 3 years on all this evidence has surfaced that would exonerate or vindicate you. talk to us about how these narratives have changed over the last 3 years. a. yeah,

it's all the media, all the, i'm actually the, the west called me a russian vision precious by a lawyer. and that i'm gonna pay of all the russian government, etc. which is total, why and, and that's also we confirmed and there's with us is that that's one thing. but the other thing is, everything i set everything i talked about. i'm providing the sedation above the primes of the buyers and finally to very slot through blue star strategies, the log in firm which lobby that own robin put coordinate, the work for the binding families. there. i'm a folks time what's the 1st, the different sources? dozens of sources on the capital m. s. the on other until groups who came out to the southern and congress confirmed that was a said 3 years later, 2 years later. but still they, i'm asking you to everything else and it's just ignoring whatever i said, they still continue to call me

a russian agent to see or me and the senior my family i had to seek re, uh, because of all those uh, uh, the invitation for the i see i'm back to my family. i just was because they had to get a guest right into the so today i'm getting back to that's online about my, my family. and this is just a great example of how the deep state is afraid of the truths how everybody is afraid of people like me somehow tell the cheese to what's of low on the situation . what happened? i was one of the person who was involved in my don, unfortunately to you, right? i saw my my, what else is what happened there? then i was working with the 20 government. and after that i saw how the reflex resignation happened. and what happened under with destructive what was the prostate general? i was. ready a bicycle time, how the investigation was continuing and the american embassy was trying to block and i wasn't which of that,

then it was higher. you start strategies because then you help work through the process office. but when i understood the work that they were doing, and they would try to, frankly, because i was working with rudy giuliani at the trump t of the training involved with the elections of trump stuff she on the surface. right. so i came to the set and it came out with the truth with my e mails, with my personal information. what i could provide at a time because the, the could, there's lots next. if you have a wrong set of robert block, let's just you know, the center. so they cannot, you call me out and get all the information from me. and so today that information is still in my hands, and i room to provide that to the us. government us tundras, the republican party, which is 2 numbers initially and 200 buying right now. and i think this puzzle together with all the information i said 2 years ago and today with everybody else coming out with the truths this, from what i said, we're going to add to the value of the picture here. and because for me,

excited about north passer by and i don't care about and speed problems, these people problem working question i need to, they will destroy my actually that's how they use deep writing. as a wrap protection, right. they brought corruption more corruption to print a, you know, there. what's the russian ukrainian government was corrupt. the problem work brushing to use it as a unit which is own benefit to destroy the country. and the country date is the greatest and destroyed by the united states. government by dividing that storage. so this is why we continue to fight today. and this and everything i said was confirmed. so does and some other sources on what it fits and everything i provide was personal email sent to invitation to treat me lewis. i strategies, referrals. i don't really consulted with on 100 buttons original. i wasn't even contact with the worst i was looking for josh students to contact the child to finish accounts from a shuttle and that information or provide what russian does information isn't

nothing because the traditional logistics and warning and communication with them which was published in a fed up report in 2020, which i started johnson center grass and everybody still got to and today that's everything that's being surfaced again, which say god choose will to well, so and ukraine is your home land. you served as a diplomat for your country for many years. you were based at the ukranian embassy here in the us. but then in 2019, but one way or zalinski was elected president of ukraine on a, a platform of a friendly ties with russia. a very moderate approach, but then by 2020 zalinski was singing a different tune about russia. what happened there? what can you tell us about that timeline and how the us or the west plays into that? and, and coincidentally, we should add the u. s. revoked your visa in 2020. yeah. yeah, that's correct. i that sanctions full sanctions by the us government in january

might change the 19th of 2020 by the state departments and we use treasury department and the fossil legally tribunal russian. asians were connected to people as their kind of show i never knew and never got was involved with. and without any evidence, they just put that on and rocked my user name box. any of my son actually, i've tried to job in where i brought right now because of the sanctions and i got a bunch accounts because of the restrictions on the i cannot travel to the us, canada or the case because of the assemblies. but the other problem is that i got my personal, got the training, i got this off to g mazda to call him today. you called him for the last 4 years, is that he also sent you a cartridges showing for because the us government function just its stuff up to the bike and the restriction. he did that. and as soon as i'm in the system porter

retired, i'm the only one you practice to the press, the extra credit or replace the supreme court. and that's awesome. in fact, because what he did is illegal in any way. so i also got followed and, and that's the threats by those old tongue. and by the last, the members of parliament, a tv on tv, because when the house had started, they said, yeah, you should tell jenko down on the street because he's a russian agent. and there's a section by the us section where you grant, so he should, he should be shut down as a dog, and that's it. without even try. that's how they pushed it on tv. and i personally got calls from every on, on the team and pushing. so this is for the train has become but what device do you have the phone? what did he was he did come on the platform with juice and car was rushing everybody around the train bell rooms. i'm going to use the heritage he transferred over, which would be unusual coffee. just come out of the par shinkel regime as

a new way for ukraine. that's what defining the 75 percent of the brands. why does it matter? why don't want they want a piece of wire posterity, so you want to end the call for and the world don't boss is joining a bit on citizens. and just what duffy said he will make a deal. here comes the minister courts back on the table and finds him and get on the bass. lucky to pray as an autonomy, but it would be praise, right. what we see today. you 1st is divided in total sausages, losing more and more territory. 600000 men and women really for an army have died. a lot of thousands of from the russian side have died. we have our total bloodshed list, the pressure of the team and a platform of 80 piece. and what happened? 3 months later after the because the president and craig, he got bought off by the british intelligence and my 6 in june of 20 lacey,

he got called up and brought him to london. and that's when he basically made a choice. and he understood him. he knew that he's going to be in a more and what for what topic originally and government rush, that's what you want. the top of the come in rush. that's what there's really no santa city. she granted not one of the about. they only want it to go against the rest of the time, and that's what you'll actually sign up for. you sign up for it to go and destroys all people destroys on country, become a billionaire trustworthy to promise you will have all the wealthy needs in the world, but he will topple government in russia as excellency the role of the frame that's this was in london by that, my 6 and today it's been coordinating totally my watch while i'm in washington are part of the home a lot to have bring pc grant because they understood they cannot do that the 1st 3 months to go with us. look at the government boss. so the standard strong that the

partial 40 of the present, and he's supported by all his people. there's only one per social left russia. and so they were all working with the west. and today they're only making money, most or industrial complex is making a profit. i'm just going to use this for, i'm showing more and more the printer's making dollars on the sensor. legacy is part of your just a puppet, which is being used and every other partially great because there's no opposition is involved in this to. so just to reiterate, just so we got this clear, the a 's of threatened you and your family directly. that doesn't sound very democratic to me, but i will still remember towards list, which is a list. i'm on that 1st and i was told that 2 weeks before the cost that started in the frame uh, i was transferred right away in the 25th of february. and oh, by their way, i could even buy some family members that i know. like 1st ones,

but i just just enough because people were so fed up of, of got so much for forgotten. but officially that's directed by members of carl henderson. i retired from the sources party, another parties portion for the party. it was my pictures, but our tv and my name was supposed to be shut down. and the rest there was somebody what comes on the street. the 1st couple weeks you took a shot and nobody cared about what happened to you. your body would be just thrown in on the street and they said, all this is what have to rush. so the more he got shot by his own reason versus find whatever, make a show of and nobody who investigates and does all the time. that personally, i was put under this as a potential was to be destroyed. so just because i set up for peace, just because i stood up for the war, just save the crate. get that done, boss. the part of the train and still live at the for life and the cost was praying and not to have one with rush. this is what we on the for any political party. and

there's support any candidate. i don't support russian president for the russian president or polish president. i supported my own country and that's what it wants to come before because i had my independence view outside of their work. we got the box coming up next. drugs, delusions of grandeur, e g o mania. those are just some of the accusations being leveled against be one time man of the year of a let him years the wednesday. we'll discuss it when we return with andre. tell us, jake, go so tight. the m o will be right that the the russian states never as one of the most sense community best,

most all sense of the, in the 65 with the keys 195 and speed, the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the rushes to day and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the fitness center for question, did you say steven twist, which is the watching is, was a lie in control if i give but plenty of the store in this,

they should have been a short order for not imagine just a last name scans. when i knew what the subject or desktop session on the font is national liam, no, that's just shiny. your guess is when you bought a new born, you said almost in the the near the the hello and welcome to the cross, the full board. here we discuss the wheel in the of the welcome back to the m. o i, manila, cham not long ago, time magazine picked him as a man of the year. then just a year later, they published an article. seldom bad mouthing him in

a way of in the way of unnamed sources to talk more about this will bring back andre teller jenko. thank you so much for sticking around with us andre. so let's get into the circles more closely aligned to mr. zelinski. a recent time magazine feature article quoted several and named members of presumably his cabinet, who leveled insults against him, calling him delusional and even messy attic. they seem to say he exist in his own world, divorced from the reality on the ground that ukraine can somehow still when this war, do you have any ideas of who these unnamed sources might be? and, and what this means for the inner workings within the zalinski government. i mean, is this the 1st fracture? are there going to be more fractures to cub a dozen? the detractors of your mob, the vice president of the credit, or you can call her,

is the one who's paying those games and has his own team. let's do all of the pop and worked around for solver, keeping him in a bubble. there's a bunch of tv i'm going to bubble because they understand the only way to make exchange like a problem with the west side of the same time to understand they have loss. so people are still the same way within the team, but your mock and his surroundings are the ones for pain that the woods, the land fee for him, unless they just have a gas to like, put it out. for example, a guy who used to be get ecologist as an official profession, became a political expert. and you surround conflict, false can change the print and make profits from different populations and never with any election. and this guy was hired by the last, the druggist, p r. such people are the ones were trying to do against the let's take a face time and for him and procedure. but your mouth is the biggest player who's going to run off the 1st of the 1st. what was going to start change because he

understands and to save yourself more than anybody else because he's was responsible for more the back fused around the last year and raising the ball and getting him in the ball was the british than anybody else. so he, he's the one most people. so i've seen this whole bubble. everybody's going to with the 10 percent. that's why i think the 2nd thing is, the last year though she to, she was a drug in a slot, some folks say, or thoughts of conspiracy theory. that is, is you to do drugs every drugs during the lecture time he got off the truck after the election time. but after that, the shop of yours was this. we're going to see you started going back and drugs. ok marijuana. somebody just haven't heard of drugs, and this person is the one who's running pressure. that's why he's still do she. that's why he is, be use as a perfect, perfect, perfect. i'm actually toronto, sol, show for somebody else outside of the train. so there's many people are not,

whether not, there's a group of sense. there's no charges to me. you mean you're training, which explains their own, pay them against the exhaust the stream and you want to get your map to different. there's different sections, sections within the government, and some of them are calculated. there's almost personal safety reasons. if i do, i don't want to get so, but we are within the consulting the crate. and we have specific things as we are working together. but the rest of these people were prepared 2 years before the war started, because they're going to have their own key. if something's going to go back, because lots a year before the war even started, the support knew what the role would be. one of the circle, jeanette, so this is what the, what was the and so you crank rest of the or using these puppets within the machine to play the own situation out of the question. all right, so you guys have an elected bureaucrats as well, and your actors have similar problems to our celebrities here in the us. all right, got it. so well, let me ask you, then, is there

a room for defense among the landscape of the rank and file among those who have his ear? well, they have to, 1st of all, the only person who cannot, who can disagree with and the team is, yeah, there are people who are, who are, who do disagree, but a couple for the you can never just simply, they have to place within the 1st of all because so that he said he's on a, he owns the experience that he can solve this k. he, the 1st was the, i meant to ask you a couple of times after you got to like, uh, he offered me cheap because of the message of washington for one point, which i go or play. thank god, i'm not in parts team. i would never want to be part of their words to this what i have. but i'd mentioned a couple of times to this person. this person who used to play for money in solace and party languages for which she premiums when she saw in dollars when they were drunk, and create and use them as a tool to just to have 5. can imagine this person got power,

especially for the struggle throughout his career to stay on floats and make money in any way possible. the thing sounds a little, pardon rogers was there, you see good spot all of our way there and begging him to, to jump on their try. and this person to play the role, he became the he got power support from the west. what, what part, what kind of pushes that can be, it's a, just a person who go for a total destruction. he would not care about anything for himself. and this person would destroy anything that a router that if he thinks is a threat, he thought of near the thread that's like, exciting to me. he thought of other people as threats, regular, local experts in the print who just took all the stuff out of a piece, a lot of my friends that shot and killed the claim by the secret service in the 1st weeks of the war, just because they stood against dark feet and white piece that's like the that's

a democracy, the west the support level. we feel like when i projects is also some press right now you probably know legally, but also there's thousands of ukrainians who just got killed because of their position. not supporting the war and that's for the exhaust. and this order was given the support it from the top, i personally but every day, but just to deal with a water, anybody who doesn't sports me and has a little political age, sports plus let it go on there. they have to be destroyed and liquid it. that's what happens. now. what is the latest news that the european union has now reversed course and are now opening accession talks for ukraine. and moldova, i mean this would be a boon for ukraine, but wouldn't this be a detriment for the you in that this would be an economic drag for the block. first of all, the european also opened such a possibility for turkey in 2005. so yes. ready turkey still in that

situation where there are possibilities in terms of you, but they're not in the says the, there are political situation which you have to go to for about an hour. but if you, if you will not for the journey between so you, because of the economic situation, your, the union was the right house or you right. and then boss, let it go further. ok. because she was a german process. one of the process started for you, you all are chemist, chemical histories fall apart because of the high gas prices to pay 40 percent higher of the page for the gas prices years ago because they're buying from the united states. and this is just an example, one of the top, the top economic growth structures in your story. and they're still striving them today. what did you say about another country? so today you, what's the point is they're gonna start getting pregnant fashion to the you. what

the situation, the question, what will happen when you can start present more territories? what is the structure included with all the work and they say housing reactor, that's awesome. that's why you bring this out and have a chest is joining the really fast. they are free. we're trying and within the facetime but which is prompts to print will never have to fast on. then go to the firm. a strip is not interested right now. so the promises promises and promises that doesn't have to show something because they cannot get somebody today. the $50000000.00 doesn't pause. so they are shown the 3 gratitude that'd be probably the most always been a joke. they're using mobile the same way they used to break the story regarding a percent on this actually is one of the course and she's in here as soon as she print. unfortunately for me as hard. right. say that, like my own car, she one of the poorest, even though it was one of the pictures on their surgery. so today it's just a game by european that's what i believe is going to be a track for your particular fast north. and he was especially europe. good because

it's easy for enters in your backyard. yeah. so things seem to fight for them and help them. but unfortunately, this is just a fairy tale for your time because they don't really understand. they cannot get your training in the way you accommodate structurally cleaners today to joining the european union because will be a total structure for you and your family will fall apart. and they will do that because the countries 4 percent will not be able to support that because you find they don't want to have them set up what your plan is to be use for the proxy countries to the less for the cost for their own interest because already before time, because quite a lot, but it's of interest fun it's. we can put some washer sometimes for some special diversity. this was the machine present, washington's a lot of interest upon it because i'm partridge, nobody else. even though their phone number watches the interest of the top, i think that's what they have to do. and then we can start talking about the you or

something else after the war as we can continue this talk. when we print, we'll never start watching. he joined the system, the other possibilities to join other economical institutions around the world, or the more possibly from the printer to change it to come from growth from the was it was not from years under intel or jenko, former diplomat for ukraine. thank you so much for sharing your story and giving us your analysis. we certainly wish you and your family well and maybe one day, a safe home coming. it was great to be on your shows and i hope to be on again, all the best you thank you. all right, that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that takes deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila chan. thank you so much for tuning and we'll see you again next time to figure out the ammo, the

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