the, the action or time, so you're welcome back to going on the ground broke out single around the world from dubai in the heart of the middle east nation nations after iraq, afghanistan, syria, libya young. and then more recently, their army of alleged genocide in gauze are and preparing something else. it's build is the largest military drills into the circle, cold war, and comes on the heels of nato's adam over about telling washington's allies to my radios and flashlights in preparation for conscription in war. joining me now from colorado, pennsylvania is professor john now go retired us army. lieutenant colonel, a veteran of 2 was on the rocky mount, estimated the us army marine conference agency manual on the latest c i a boss general the translator pentagon. both matters is now professor of war fighting

studies with us army war college. thank you so much for sending kind of coming on. i know you're not speaking for the us, the army or the us army will college. but just tell me what it is to be like the past few months lecturing, speaking to nato officials. and they're like, just ahead of this. um, well, stead for us to defend drills of 90000 troops, apparently in the next few weeks, the biggest since the i said so cold, cold war, it was very warm for a lot of people. what's it like being talking, talking to the, to my students here at the army war college are mostly army officers from 75 different countries around the world. uh, air force officers, navy officers, marine corps officers, some state department officials, but, but primarily made great army officers. lieutenant colonels just passed the tank command. and what i tell them is that in the national security business business is

good and getting better. that the good news is that their chances for promotion are high. it's a bad news is i think the chances for great power war are higher than they've been in 30 years. say, i mean, today you're teaching the as an exponential antagonism of i believe from vision i cooperation, organization, countries in the wake of all these different places. what i mean, i should just get come to the quick and say, why do you think 2 navy seals were killed or gave up that lives for the us military and the red z in the past few days. so, oh, very sad to, to lose our sales, highly trained professionals. they were conducting boarding operations as part of an efforts to defend international trade through the red sea. and the, that is one of the costs of the international free trade system. the united states are friends and allies around the globe and have promoted since the end of the 2nd you think was opperation, is by the,

by the ministration is going to increase the ability of shippers and insurance companies to be able to ensure free trade and not lead to increased attacks. well, some of that depends on what a rand decides to do, of course. so a big part of the problems in the middle east, and there's plenty of blame to go around, is that a ran is trying to form and problems for the united states. and to put pressure on israel. and the attacks on shipping in the red sea or part of that effort, united states is trying to punish those who are committing those attacks. it is trying to save card international shipping and, and it is doing so with relatively limited success. so far, i'm quite concerned that that war may turn hotter before it grows cold. where do you get this information? and i hear it repeated. the iran controls and sorrow a in, in the gym. and i mean,

as is repeatedly being said, these are allies of iran, clearly in the region, and you're on probably quite close now with china or arguably up to china broke at this. how do you run the deal? china needing these trade routes desperately and answer a lot. tally, saying they were only targeting is really linked ships. china and russian ships are explicitly named by a human is not being targets. so how did this? 2, navy seals die, giving up their lives in a fight that surely was not going to increase international will trade. this is about something else. this is about guys that well, certainly that have the science of outcasts or a but in fact the war is designed to put pressure on israel in the united

states. and the only way they're able to do that. and that is by attacking international trade. united states is working hard with the international trade is it's trade with israel and maybe as rails allies is not trained with, i mean, they know they've exposure. they said they're not going to attack relationships, chinese ships presuming side of african ships so that they, they certainly say which ships they're attacking, but they are attacking a number of ships that have no connection with israel whatsoever. so they're, they're simply not that good. they are able to harass ships, including us naval ships in the area. they are able to bring a tax against international shipping. and of course, the law of the sea, the united nations, all agree that ships peacefully transiting international waters are not to be attacked. and that's one of the most basic principles of international relation. the global economy depends upon that rule being fall isn't that the embargo in cuba,

the same isn't have the embargo on cuba for the past 50 years. i mean, i more centrally here wouldn't to cease firing guys, and the us voted the un security accounts will be a more effective way of ensuring freedom of navigation. then uh, these 2 navy seals giving up their lives and strikes on the poorest country and they are build as well. so those of who these might and might not stop their attacks depending on what the outcome of, of any ceasefire in guns or might be. of course, that decision is israel, so not the united states to make. i am not a huge fan of all of the decisions that israel is making that i think it is time for a cease fire or at least i moved to more targeted strikes. i'd like to see more discrimination and the use of force from is real and well, just the whole guys are the thing we so you just solve the problem in just what you

said. so all you have to say was cease fire and we can go to the stages, go and see which show you know, which is why the answer alignment with the prescribe by the, by the administration. and the 1st instance, because they was progress on the idea of uh, you know, a view of the process and just see if i did stage, you could have solve the freedom of navigation instantly by just saying that you need to strike them. indeed, it's certainly nice to believe that we could return to a status call on time before october 7th, but i don't think that's possible in any way, shape or form, even if the 100 or so hostages. some of the american citizens weren't released as, as it is long overdue, mostly, noncombatants. no, no one, no principal of international law. no religion recognize religion and the world

believes that hostages innocent hostages should be how you doing base. you don't want to be open this and as, as is the israel is keeping thousands of palestinians hostages. but in any case, how does supplying loads of weapons some people say bypassing congress to attack the tunnels supposedly and probably make it more likely those captives also just a kill benefit of the argument you're making as well as i said, i'm not on on a bashed fan of the strategy that israel is conducting, i would prefer to see more discretion. i do think it's time to move toward a different phase of the war. but again, those are israel's decisions to make, not americans is real, how to solve and when it comp make them without the weaponry. i mean it can use answer guns with that, i mean ition. it certainly is grateful for the support it's received from the united states. it does have a pretty substantial arms weaponry industry of its own way,

concise towards the job that you are saying they don't need beyond munition. the, the by the ministration is speeding through. and the congress, obviously angry about that not being consulted enough, they don't actually need it. they have enough weaponry themselves in grow. so they're, they're, they're moving toward a different phase of this complex. they are, are moving toward or away from if you compare its 2 racks, 2003, they're moving away from the general invasion and toward i, i believe i owe a more targeted counter insurgency campaign counterterrorism campaign. where rather than using tax, special forces teams will or um, the thing uh, individuals intelligence believes are, are responsible for holding the hostages for leading the october 7th attacks. and, and so the demands for immunization will go down. when you study this, d p, you are the author, the 1st counter insurgency. manual. you're telling me the,

everything you're watching there, conforms to this idea of 2 stages. and the next stage will be this. and i mean, a genocide judge is, would be in to the national court of justice back by the arab league, both my south africa co conspirators, the charges perhaps being developed against the united states and european union in britain for arming the genocide. and you're saying, yeah, the 2nd stage they'll capture those responsible for the october 7th attacks. right . and we're going to throw around charges of genocide that kind of cars go both ways. no one of the i c j. i was able to they they, they could uh but, but so home us needs to recognize israel's right to exist. they have a change their josh or their, their actions on october 7th did not demonstrate that. they believed that is really right. they repeatedly said the change the charges to accept the 967 and what is it?

and as you, as well as anybody knows being at t v, i was saying things as easy doing things as far as s o. uh they, they clearly hoped to my belief, man, i'm not here this morning, i live and i'm just saying like you as a military strategist, what israel has done and now brought britain in the united states and europe in union. india is the entire world and international community think they're all participating in genocide and, and 4 percent of the entire population of guys is dead, disappeared or wounded, which would equate to $13000000.00 americans dying of to being bombed in the usa. certainly the whole world does not think that israel is conducting genocide markets, not. i do not. i do believe that a loss is responsible for the consequences of its actions, right? none of those people whose lives have sadly added 4 percent of the population

because as you note right, many of them, innocent civilians caught in the crossfire most most the most wanting to be around most of the resources, most of them, women and children. as many of the women and children of course with the 70 age and the population in gaza, that's probably likely. however, the, the higher j shop you who view in 60 general antonio container is saying that it's on president. what's happened the unprecedented. what's that asked for the attacks of october? so and so i would have a very different perspective if october 7th hadn't happened and, and if it's real, were not trying to recover its hostages and kill or capture those who are trying very, even okay with this, haven't isn't out of hopefully debates and people in these really press are at the forefront of showing how most of the or many of the those effects it on october.

the 7th are killed by is railey american armament on the day. if you read these rarely papers, it's full of this information about how it wasn't em, us killing children at all. and the, but i, i've seen the video is um, us the right thing in killing children. cutting the heads off of this really. so yeah, all of that has been debunked as you, as you know, the really premises at the forefront of showing that all that evidence was forged. anyway, the cut off, i don't know how i'm just going to be the more from the professor bullfighting studies. tell me, will college after this break, the thing that would inform you to with them for the gifts authoritative celia was this

because they did just wouldn't care to get a car through the new year. oh for g, for teach. so i know for me teaching the scholars that should go and you have to do this. i'm going to left, i look forward to what that the she's more it's a little bit. let's move i'm oh no, i'm really starting from 1st most of most of my big lot of to move. let me look into that. i'm just, i get i as well as to the lowest, the did some of the study to be progressing right. i used to wish i finish this is just so just for good news, i'm especially when you come seem to do friday, use it for you or the power of people for the for sure. interested in the 10. most of the

welcome back to going on the right. i'm still here with professor joe. now go retired us army lieutenant kindly, professor will fighting studies and us army war college professor. i do want to get onto your a, but i suppose i should just ask, given that you are the author of the conference as the manual human has vowed revenge on the usa and u. k. for its asked strikes in the past few days. um is, is britain in the united states prepared for any insurgency against them? however, that might to happen. i mean, now whatever context that might happen. yeah, i think what about, look more like terrorism and like, and search and see. so it is certainly possible that your many agents could conduct additional tax on us british assets in the region as possible. if those attacks could extend further into a rack is raining attacks sponsored attacks recently have human does not

have global reach. and um, i think they can do more damage to commercial shipping, then they can to the armed forces of the united states and her friends. well, certainly there was a 2 british warships that are backed up into each other because once the visual media be how you came in to see your defense, i have to admit in the past few days. so let's go to, to ukraine, then you predicted the media victory for purge and various hey, at the outset of the movie into waste and ukraine. and now lots in the global south. i could, we would say pigeons moving to east and ukraine. he obviously, so it is protecting the people to be some don't yet, is given the global side of the thing. it is the starting pistol for the burying of us. and by forever as bricks, images is a huge. you might see

a new opponent for the united states and nato india and china and continue to fund the russian war. obviously, buying the energy. how do you see it now? well 1st i very good company when i incorrectly predicted the rest of what went to work quickly. the germ of the joint chiefs believed the same thing turned out that the russians were not as capable as i feared, and that the ukrainians were tougher fighters. that i believed, or the war against russia, between russia and ukraine, was part of prudence, territorial ambitions. a desire to restore the former soviet empire. it has failed to date. the main g o. political result of it has been an expansion of nato and expansion of western defense budgets. nato coming closer together, actually having

a much longer border to defend against nato going forward. and so i, i think it's safe to say that to this point. hooton's invasion of ukraine has failed horribly or so we don't know what's going to happen next. and in fact, i'm quite concerned about whether the united states will still support ukraine going. why, why given the, you teach and read widely a no, but uh for decades now, the warnings about nato expansion east was bound to capitalize a reaction from moscow level was leading it a do just don't buy that at all. and why do you think that it's not that pressure did badly in the initial stages of the war? it was maybe they were blocking cab from tanks. going that way for the supply lines and they're in it for the long haul because the real battle here is for the dollar for uh, uh, economic power. and as we can see us in europe. so the economies lie in taxes. so

they, they certainly weren't at it for the long haul. the tax crews headed toward keep their dress uniforms on board for a victory. for me. i spent a bunch of time on tax. there's no spare room for a dress uniform. it would've been better off leaving the dress uniforms at home and feeling that space with the weapons, the munition, the gas a way to do that, then you would enter the tax all the way to keith. i'm sorry. who told you about the dress uniforms? that's widely reported. i've published on it. you can, you won't have to google working towards life because there's renew their submission. try to washington post. so that's, that's absolutely well known. so it's the failures russian arms in the initial invasion of ukraine, or, or why the mere fact of that? who was attacking keats? we certainly all agree that happened right is prove that he was not merely concerned about the eastern portions of ukraine. you wanted to topple the ukrainian government and he wanted to bring ukraine into what, what he sees as

a revitalized soviet sir. i mean, i failed in doubt. i'd say the source, the source is highly suspect, but you said the new york times, the washington post, that clearly being fed lines from those in pa, now that as a landscape defeat is on the cards every day and then your times and want you to buzz we can see somebody saying a softening up of nature, nation super bad for the defeat of the landscape is forces you don't see that says, unless these forces you're creating forces are suffering right now from a lack of ammunition. zelinski famously, when he was offered a ticket out of ukraine by the united states that he didn't want to leave you want to them, munitions. and unfortunately, because of the problems here in the what i see is failures in the united states congress right now is running out of ammunition is running out of air defense, munitions, he's running out of artillery, munitions, all of those are being rationed right now. on the battlefront and ukraine,

i strongly believe have been written on this extensive living started for the past 2 years. that as long as the united states congress and the majority of the members of the united states congress and brought the center of the house, do support additional funding for ukraine. as long as that coast room, ukraine will continue to survive as an independent nation. drew calendar 2024. the pigeons never said they didn't want and independent nation. what do i the, i'm one abrams tanks. is it a p all question as to why they're not being used more often. i mean their claims that the, they on ahmed well against you avi's on the sides and on the top of the change that tax have been designed to were designed in one tech. all, all modern browsers were designed before and aerial vehicles were an effective weapon of war. they're all being modified now to provide additional protection

against you. what are these? but the real, i think critical failure of ukrainian arch today is not the young ones. they'd certainly like to have a lot more of them and i believe they will have more of them in years to come with the modification. great. or with the modification against the russian drugs. were i guess, right? i guess whoever's drones, they may be drones are now one of the inescapable factors of the modern battlefield . that's a relatively new development in the past 5 years or so. i don't expect it to go away. but i think is always happens. the tank itself was it was created in reaction to the machine guns so so of their progress in one direction. and it just, it is countered by another. working on the russians and the ukrainians are both showing dramatic increases in their ability to counter unmanned aerial vehicles. in, in a number of different ways. but the big problem ukraine faces is in the year, but it's not you avi's,

of which they have sufficient quantities of quality. it's in may and aircraft. it's in the ability to provide air superiority over the balance here. and, and until they get that, and some of the, some of the sixteens will be coming on board of both european and us of 16. so will be coming on board in 2024. i don't expect those to be decisive on the battlefield, but they're going to help and long term. i'm confident that ukraine can survive as an independent nation again. as long as the west and particularly the united states continues to find a way to provide it with the arms that needs to fight. yeah, i do with this point about the independent nation. depends and said denot supply and obviously protect the russian speaking people in the some of ukraine never said he wanted to take over ukraine today as well. i'm sure he was sending tags to key just to wash presidents lensky. i happy birthday ways, i sure don't. we'll intention for as a lot of ski at all,

and one of the less the once again power is that what you're suggesting? no, but he says you can establish your own state because some people have things and then his life is being protected by a by rusher and a sense. because as you know, and i want to ask you about that, actually, why does rusher just don't take the lensky ad, which clearly they have the capability of doing, but choose not to do so they have tried to repeatedly write in and so far for me. oh them so they have that's about it. no, that's not is they've tried many, many times a dozen times 2 dozen times to take out the landscape and failed to do with the suicide. this information again is this information again, coming from the ukranian side. some of it is coming all over is coming from a lot of classified sources. let me be clear, right? although i get this type of dress uniforms in the tanks came from a ukraine. you like for like what was that was that came from? that's not true. isn't it right here in the paper? it's completely sure. no, it shouldn't paper over united states but,

but i guess you don't have to believe me, right? you, you asked me to come on. i'm happy to talk to but but, but so um and as, as for the future of, of ukraine under soviet time, the russian domination, you might look to the soviet domination of poland checklist of lucky, uh, east germany. right. and has a why do these countries the united states has not forcing countries to join nato. they wish to join, you know, because they have lived under soviet domination. we don't, we hoping that the american window to gain take over vietnam. i'm not sure that historical pero, quite works to it. i'm, i'm pretty sure the americans learned about to take over cuba, like the soviet union once invaded. poland let's, let's get on to sanctions then. um, in your, in your, in china, even zelinski is kind of funding the russian war machine now with buying energy

from the cause it landscapes to pay dues for the energy coming through ukraine for gas transit fees. is it the end of the united states sanctions policy as a method of war fat in the, the sanctions of laughter, russia, with a growing economy. and of course, that you are a p in western europe and in dire straits economically. so i would say that western europe is in dire straits economically. britain certainly is bryson it hasn't helped it. but the you continues to germany a good grow the industrialized. not as good as the united states but, but so russia has demonstrated some remarkable resilience in the face of the american sections, the western sanctions. i think the civilian your craft industry and so they may be asian industry is probably the place where russia is having the hardest time adapting to the sanctions. and i believe that sections tend to be

a very slow and imprecise tool of international politics. there's some emotional and psychological benefits to them, but russia has shown more resilience side expected. of course, a big bunch of that is that the russian people are used to suffer. and one of the indicators i'm looking at most closely is the russian dismay. at the extraordinary law since they've suffered in ukraine, and the so called mother's protests against the talented hearing regime of food. so we've had $12.00 and a half to get scrutiny so far. basically, you know, to tell a terrier. and if they're a purchase on the streets, you really, we don't know that we don't know the category we met. i just, let's just finalize the broadcast cuz you have with the security know broad 0 position bodies in as soon as gives you great. and that will be in band and the newspaper strip to, but just create a new york magazine in your road. i believe there's no chance for any kind of

negotiated settlement until putin finds the trump is not going to be the next president of the usa. it's head to the end december. what do you think now then? so there is going to be a negotiated settlement when trump wins in 2024. the choice is president. trump is re elected in 2024. i think that that would have dire implications for ukraine's independence, as well as for nato as a whole. so according to john bolton, one of the president drops, nash, he's been on this, you god bless a john said that the trump of what, what, what to do in plans to full the united states, out of nato. in the 2nd term. if he gets a 2nd term, i think that that would be a risk of consequences for global peace and security. and in fact, the reason national defense authorization that tried to prevent any future president from withdrawing the united states from nato without explicit side of the approval. whether that particular part of the n d a is constitutional or not is,

is an open question. but i am deeply concerned that ukraine will not stand as an independent country. if donald trump is re elected to the presidency of the united states. they have to see what the american people decide to do on the account preferences. you all know. thank you. thank you. and that's it for the show, continued condolences, those breed by the u. k. u. s. back slaughtering gaza will be back with a brand new episode on saturday until then keep in touch with either one of my social media. if it's not send, send me your country and had to have channel going. undergoing tv on normal don't come to us new and old episodes. i'm going undergrad suicide. the hello and welcome to the cross stuff full born. here we discussed some real in

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