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to avoid war. in the meantime, european leaders bluster about the need to stop booty while protest mount. and i'm joined by my usual guest, george samuel in budapest. he is a pod cast, read the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals and america. yes, we have martin j. he's an award winning journalist. a gentleman crossed up rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated credit start out with george in budapest as we usually do. george you a very interesting week the rhetoric versus actions here, or we're constantly given the message that the binding ministration was the deescalate tensions in the middle east or west asia as more and more people call it . but actions are very different. did i see just enormous escalation? but the administration says it's just the opposite that can you squared this article and if you can, you know, you deserve a nobel prize. go ahead george. well, i think i'm not going to get that nobel prize anytime, said i,

yes i did. it in the united states always makes the same thing. we are desperate to avoid a war where absolutely desperate to avoid any kind of escalation. that is why we're launching this size. that's why we're launching bomb is in order to avoid a war and everything that he does. whether it's a good here and then the lease, or whether it's a in ukraine is did toward provocation. maybe that's what it does. it could make claim that it's the escalate. he may claim that it's entirely defensive, but whatever is doing it is in order to provo, i'm if you, if you take the uh, just to, to look at it from the other. so look at it. let's look at it from the perspective of iran. you know, they see a hostile state, a stain that is a cost to do it around for more than 40 years. in a openly advocates the whole withdraw about the government, the wrong is because he was a policy of containment all the around it sets of basis all around there. um,

in order to achieve all of those things, any claims that he's being defensive about anything, that's all that the wrong does. in response, of course, every country will respond to such purposes. oh, the wrong is the address. so here we, we have to do something about this. so this is how the united states bags and then it presents itself to the world as well. we're, we're, we're innocent with what we're doing, nothing. i mean it's, it's very, a aggressive it's, it's the same password all the time. and that's the law of unintended consequences because there is no real strategic goal. always. i can't figure that out. we don't mark mean we have a gen kirby the spokesperson for the national security council. he vehemently, vehemently, and he's correcting people all the time. so these, you know, the, the escalation going on in the middle east has nothing to do with god. i mean they, they're, they're decoupled, they have nothing to do with each other. when the entire region is halloween at the top, it's a long saying, it is all about this. how much longer can,

can the administration get away with this? is i suppose, as long as there's a pliant media, but the mean, the reality on the ground is radically different than it's being described in washington. where you said a media, me just the key here. you know, i mean, i'm american journalist, a british journalist doing well, they can to fix a new use. i mean, even when you look at the basis of these, these recent attacks by blood and with go back a few days or a week or so, it was reported all over the press that these, these american soldiers were killed in jordan, a nice that that's not true, they want to go to, you know, and it will execute on the other side of the boat in syria where the americans and the british have a so called secret base at of tubs. and the problem with this is how does buy and sell up the american public? how do we obviously say, well we, we have the legal occupation in syria, and we'd find that local tribes to,

to carry on the fight against a sub a subs units. and we're also reducing a number of al qaeda people who i'm quite happy to take our cash. how do you spell out the american public in, even under american, even though the international law, or you don't have the right to defend yourself if you're occupying someone else's country. so there's, so there's one code in jewel and that was a lie. and look how these things escalate, the kind of thing and how these things get taken out of control. it's really interesting spending with this time, the middle east, how i have a perspective on how arabs think, i ranges think and i can tell you for sure. they will not interpret these attacks, but blinds and as a position of strength on his part, i see it quite the opposite. there was light as a position of weakness and i'll tell you why. because it's a bit like the 911 attacks being inspired by enlarge and because he saw for himself in the summer of 1992, an american soldier being transferred to the streets of some of the of, of mogadishu. and being on the cover of newsweek incense and putting out tents and

putting out his troops. not any in somalia, but also not intervening. and dwanda been not and looked at that. and he realized that's how weak that's a valuable america is a winful in a decade later, to become the embassies in the roby. and doris alone, you remember it's the same. so the story here, the radiance and the arabs will be looking at this and say you do all this for $310.00 americans. that's amazing. you know, you'll have that vulnerable. and so this, this is how they will be seen and the cools of bind to and who keeps site here. and we won't piece it. we're bombing for peace. it's, there is a limits help help solve this task and go in the way it will literally a cigarette paper away from bite and spring a c, n d stick uh, a logo on the side of the site on the home, you know, but what he's doing is that so? so to george now is that when there are about $3000.00 us military personnel scattered throughout the region, at least that's official. but they're,

they're being put into a sacrificial lamb position position. i mean, maybe us cannot defend them. they cannot defend them at all, particularly if there is a united the acts as the axis of resistance. what is it that they working in concert? those $3000.00 troops are sitting ducks, george, what are they all sitting dogs? but of course, then, how does the united states respond? should they be attacked? well, the united states, them continues attacking is just a never ending cycle. um, and again they, the goal, i suppose is some sort of dominance that the united states wishes to impose ultimately is, which is completely unrealistic. but when you look, let's impact goodness, consider serious. what exactly is the united states doing in syria? i mean, you get it in boss on this policy of over throwing beishir alongside by um, uh, president obama and it failed. um, why did once i saw it out?

well, i think it, the lady like the fact that i saw both had good relations with the rush or the like the fact us, i had good relations with iran, so they decided we got to get rid of it. so that failed. what's the policy now? well, the policy and i was simply to polish the syrian people, so not having going along with the american project, and therefore to deny them the oil to deny them is there um agriculture and just to continue as before. and then of course, when inevitably is america for so we don't know how many there are, you know, set to be about $900.00, could probably much, well, the, it looks like they, they will be a come under attack and they will call somebody to come under its a, you know, income because the united states, well we, we don't wanna escalate, but we have to, uh, even bump some more a so we did, it continues. but of course, all the peoples in the region are particularly rob erode, sees the united states as a grass or it just says,

let's say this is the united states, is determined to make life as hard as possible for us to remove. i got to go back to the days of the plot is in the night, the sixties and seventies, and therefore we're, you know, we are entitled to do everything we can to resist and therefore that, that's the reason why they have these. uh uh, let me pull proxy forces throughout the middle east because that the, that the resist the re, the resist a power that is, as the rest of it didn't change, it was the wrong. and we should point out here is that, you know, unlike with western media, saying that these are not all tightly coordinated and controlled by here around these. like they may take a note of what is said into them. but they, what that there is essentially independent actors here. you know, you know, we can add insult to injury. it'd be lighted. states is still helping the people of a rack even couldn't. they've been asked to leave. the have us troops out vacate

the country, and then the us turned around and blackmailed and say, well, you know, if you want us to leave, we'll take your, your 4 in reserves. this is turning into a habit. i think you gentlemen have noticed here, essentially black mailing their way to stay inside the country, which of course, you know, after everything's been sudden, been done for a rack by the united states and its allies. that can only get worse. the situation can only get more inflamed martin. yeah. that relationship of, of a black man and a victim in a still come syndrome scenario in iraq is only going to get worse. because what we've noticed. another thing this has been picked up a tool by to west is the more the america hits, those probably rang emissions interact, the more strengths that gives to ices. and the regular isis is actually coming back in to rugs. and in just the last few days it's, we're engines to see the regular iraqi army divisions have been attacked by cis. so that's also a point of leverage which to merican. so using, you know,

you're the american the so you want us to leave. but, you know, if we leave and you're gonna have a big problem with the ice just to get on your yeah, but we have to point us looking forward before 2003 before 2003. there was no isis inner rock and they only came as result to be illegal, occupation invasion occupied rapidly running out of pro time for this block. george, is it fair to say that the united states has this fighting israel's enemies in the region? right? it is just an, a one part of a, a military operation to go after israel's enemies. this is what the task that the bide ministration is accepted. george, i think it's fair because um there is no inappropriate of the uh, the rationale for that. because basically what, what is the problem that the united states have with the wrong? well, iran is a little bit, israel plated the smoke like area around in israel are at the level go ahead and the united states, you know,

for every single politician in dc is constantly railing a ranting and raving about the wrong it was that what, what is it that you go to is there, i bought it, what's, what's your problem with their um, you'll know and they are they wrong? well, because it doesn't like israel and that's good. that's the positive results then it is, well, don't charge you. i mean, it's really, really the end of it. exactly. i'm and we'll finish off this bart with the with martin here. and we, i what's the number here? uh, 17600000000. that's what the us house speaker mike johnson was a standalone, a standalone vote for israel. okay, no, no other conditions why i r s not, not border security, just stand alone in the world sees is in the air a world sees this is that skewing the genocide going on and god's at last for 30 seconds. before we get to the break, you'll see the point now i want to make an george sort of touched on the scene a is that to israel is really the central, the problem here as well as allies with the central problem. and when are you? george mentioned what is what american troops doing,

and so it's often forgotten that not only are they running the comes, their legal comes to train the local tribes to cite a sudden such a lines, militias, and even the right. and i'll make solution. never forget geranium, it has a lot of installations, non 0. but the 2nd thing, which is more important is that asked dealing oil and missile america does. if it doesn't get cheaper around the world, it just deal with a mix it. so you have this buffer. if you, well, what it does to is it deprives well from, from, we have this plenty of oil in the world that it deprives the syrian government about ways that people are going is going to, is 5, is going across the whole. the answer right gentlemen, have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real new stay with our to the

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let me throw it to you. um, changing gears a little bit during hungry hungry was the, the, the subject of, uh, you black male over the last uh, few new cycles here. um victor owed about and finally agreed to a compromise. and probably the best deal he could get. uh 50000000000 a euro will be um, allocated to ukraine. uh, some of it direct assistance. other loan guarantees which i don't think will ever be paid back. and but meanwhile, meanwhile, in the same building in brussels where this great historic boat of unity for ukraine, a lot of cow dung, was of a thrown at the doors and windows of that building here by farmers and farmers representing farmers all across europe. so here we have a very distress, dis stressed group of people, the, the, the, the, of the foundation of so many of these countries identity their agriculture,

their farmers, their traditions. and he, you decided, no ukraine is more important. george is quite remarkable. and an orb of himself said, the officer, this meeting is if everyone in brussels is talking of war that's, that's the it lists them mentality and we'll see this throughout europe. so in any in, in the u. k, where we have the, the tall uh, army person. uh so patrick, solve this thing. we need to bring back military conscription. uh because we need to. uh, it's not ready. cost and then uh barge, i'm sure a lot of, you know, you know, um, uh x 10 or whatever they're called or more than happy they know. jump into a military uniform. i, i did, it just seemed so not unless i get immigrants to do it. sorry. for the, in a wreck, i know the other and then you have a bar, as johnson said, yeah, yeah, yeah, we need conscription, you know, corporal johnson reporting for duty and then you have um,

a little macro. also same, you know, we, whatever we do, we kind of a lot of booting. so when you have the been general bar is not general. you know, defense minister bars, the story is in germany was as well are, is uh, you know, you know, almost sometime within the next 5 years. now this is, this is, that's also where you're at. but somehow, well, with russia is coming within the next few years. where they get this fantasy from, you know, we, we, we simply don't know. i think we do know it all comes from washington. they're just repeating what washington has to, you know, what, you're both your opinions of georgia is kind of everything. but, you know, we have martin here, he's from the u. k. a, i'm hungry, a european. okay. okay. all right, good. well, i don't want to get into identity politics on cross it out to us thing we need to do so, but you know, this does come from, from washington. i don't think anyone really has an appetite for war,

particularly just after what's been going on and ukraine. but it, for me, the most important thing is it shows its priorities and it's ideologically driven. i mean, you know, the most basic, one of the most basic things you need is food. okay. we have farmers, european farmers for the most part, are very, very efficient. they're very good at what they do. and it every single turn we have a ruling class in the u. it just wants to snuff these people out there backward, their retrograde, they're conservative, they're religious, and their cows are farting all the time. okay. i mean, good. ready? so you know, this is an extraordinary moment and there's just so much this. um, i think festival is a couple of points. so i wanted to make about some is we should never forget the fund moves across europe. take move in 100 off of the into the budget every single year, and then, and they rely on that bunch of they rely on a subsidy and they'll, they comp make ends meet. they come make a decent profit and they're starting to panic. must on to worry concurrent to the

politicians, both on a member state level and on an e u level. they're also starting to panic because they've borrowed and borrowed and they're realizing that all this is catching up with them. and they haven't got the means to pull themselves on the road. very few just have any this way. aust. where did you get this $50000000000.00 for 2 years from wasn't kicking around, popping up those live on the, on the land store and europe and commission. it wasn't in a volt in new york, penn central bank in frankfurt. they bought it from the markets and they keep on board unless like this tool and it is just talk, comes from a couple of things. first of all, the media, unless and loves in the washing what town? the, in the next 6 months, ukraine's going to have more defeats. now, how do we manipulate that? how do we capitalize on the? how do we show that was, let's move images and ukraine to russian forces? well, we actually use that same footage to 6 up the story and scare people into believing this narrative of the russians are coming. now is no since we know it's nonsense,

but what's it all about? it's really all about money page. it's really all about scaring people into, designed to do. we have a real problem coming on a, on a, on an international level. a boat is being threatened. and this is how we can actually distract people away from the financial crisis. is that we can actually install this idea that we need bigger armies. we need prescription of the okay, is hilarious. we're going back to 19 fifties. an o at is linked to actually increasing our defense budgets and this is what is all about. so what about increase defense spending? i mean, trouble do i happy with this to see a lot of european countries looking at this, but that's what's coming on. the horizon on a considerable increase. i'm talking about 5 to 10 percent. i'm talking about double. this is what europe is really preparing for. in my view it's, it's a, it's a scam talk to you because the tactic. but george, you know, beat me. the 2 pillars of the promise of the e. u was a security and prosperity. well, they haven't been delivering on either for

a very long time. and i, you know, and martin just said, i can't let it go. you know, we have to defend our borders, but not against the legal immigration. it's like the, it is so absurd. you know, the longer you talk about it, the more the absurdity of it all becomes evident. i'm sorry. jump in george. yeah, that's exactly right. i mean, they don't do anything. it's all to defend the boat as and that's precisely what the europeans i'm most concerned about in the country opposite country. they are extraordinarily concerned about this uncontrolled flow of mind. rose and this is something that the e, u leadership, kids know nothing about it. you know, so when, when you listen to who still up on the line and michelle and background shoals and the rest, what do they talk about? they talk about you crate. it will, it will, shouldn't you've been addressing the public use of your own people the, the, it's, it's all about your brain that, that's the only thing. you know, what was the bumper line, you know, deliver so state of the union and the goal,

the european, follow them again, an ac with the american style and associated with the web page annually voted. and who voted for her? i'm sorry, i forgot that day who, who wrote as a member styles here, and then when, when you, when you mention about the funds, is that as absolutely right. i mean here, here are these people who have very, very small margins. they can barely survive and you have a policy is a levy you have been driven by make the door making their lives as hard as possible, whether it's the up. so the environmental regulations, you know, oh, you must think he was pesticides. you must set aside 20 percent of your land for bio that i said the to, you know, you go to your own me and make sure that your, your cause and uh, faulting. uh, you know, got cut back on your meat production. it's, it is, it is a very full stop. all the thoughts from is, and the problem is, know this and the, and that's why they make their feelings. well, i mean very significant of that or by, off to his, you know,

talking to in brussels, went outside and talk to the farm. is this idea of these, the, these are, might be believe these are people who i today. i have so sensible notions about what should happen in europe, but not the your at the leadership and it's a, it's but i didn't go through absolute disaster no more. and prior to that, the con, 5 and in brussels. um, uh, in georgia, i talked about it on our bar podcasts, bentley, this leaked article from the f t and who knows where it comes from, but you know that being the, that hungry would face the sanctions. essentially blackmail possibly have its voting rights denied to it. so here's is, you know, the most of them, apparently, the most advanced, the democratic process that known to mankind, and they're trying to subvert democracy. while the while there's a funding, a lost foreign war going into debt and destroying their farmers. yeah, i, i it biggest belief. i mean, when i read it from the system i, i couldn't,

couldn't quite believe what i was reading. you know, this, the idea that the issue is, well, 1st of all, a democratic party, it is. and the tool is, if anything it's empty democratic it was brought to balance. it seems like it's kind of like the mafia. you know, you, you know, mr. reuben, you've got a ton of a nice country here. it'd be a pity, something would happen to it. yeah, yeah, i almost as though when they are offering a protection racket with all the funds they pump into it and that right, it could be turned off at any moment, you know. but going back to what happens, you know, 50000000000 years. think about it. that's not a lot of money. i mean, it's over 4 years and it's over 4 years. yeah, the 12 and i've been a year and by my estimations and by my own research and investigations, i've done at least half of these cash or equipment military equipment is being diverted if it is military kids. if i do this and it's actually for salaries, and i might use mine for government ministry salaries, i don't know to anybody. does anybody in brussels actually think that the launch of that money is going to get to government salaries?

you know, we know it isn't when there and the people who voted didn't know is and so what is a real story here? is it that we really believe ukraine can win the war? and it's only just a question of time. i think we've moved on from that narrative. i think that the narrative now in brussels is we need to keep this dead body alive. we need to keep it resolved. the rest of the day to them plugged in with all these choose, we have to keep. yeah, but and just, but it's just, it's not going to do that. it's not going to do that. and i'm sorry, but george, this is a money laundering operation. this is, you know, and you, and i discussed this and argued about this for ever since this art of this, the special military operation. but i think we both are, all 3 of us are in agreements. this may be that you use last chance that will give them a longer, uh, a chunk of change. okay? and you know, it pays off the leads and in ukraine and then meet with us. there's some arms that are purchased from europe, primarily america. and you know, all the other serve it. yeah, n g o stuff. i mean, this is just an on the bus, you know, thing. and maybe it will be the last one. we don't know,

but george is of the opinion and that he can then may or a lot they they're never going to give up on this project. go ahead, george. no, i really don't. i think that they all did tell them and to keep this uh, well, going, so far as long as i can. but you know, to weaken russia to inflict some kind of a strategic defeat on russia and to keep in was in united states. and so we have, you ever go out to your, up, you have this leadership that has, know all the pieces because if any legitimacy all the them, uh, continuing this, a scam on the rain above russia. we, we, we have to do it because with the fulton is a threat to us. so we are legally used to be, oh, we gotta do all this way. ukraine now is we have to do it because we on that's on the chopping block, you know, where, you know, it's got a big gap inside and he's going to do this all up. okay, but we, i think we can end on this note here is that i, i think we, we are all in agreement and our viewers that the european leadership should be more

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