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the impossibility of payments and dollars being cut off from swift services to the sanctions against our ships carrying oil company sanctions against airplanes. somebody's sanctions in everything everywhere. and we make sure that goes to something immediately sort of a mean. yes, it's the largest number are sanctions in the world which are applied are applied against russia and we have become europe's 1st economy during this time. no, no, there's a problem with the tools that us use is don't work with. well, one has to think about what to do. if this realization comes to the ruling leads, then yes, even the 1st person of the state will act in anticipation of what the voters and the people who make decisions at various levels expect from this person. then maybe something will change, but you're describing to different systems. you say that the leader acts in the interest of the voters. but you also say these decisions are not made by the leader . they're made by the ruling classes. you run this country for so long. you know,
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and always american presence, what are those power set again in the united states? do you think like, who actually makes the decisions? you're just not, it's a media source and it's the machine. somebody's trying to consider what you and i don't know, america is a complex country. i'm a rubber conservative on one hand, rapidly changing on the other. and i think it's so easy for us to sort it all out. who makes decisions in the elections? is it possible to understand this when each state has its own legislation, each states regulates itself. so one can be excluded from elections of the state level. i'm just to, it is a 2 stage electoral system. yes, it is very difficult for us to understand. just do quite a few. certainly there are 2 parties that are dominant, the republicans and the democrats. and within this party system, the centers that make decisions, it doesn't prepare decisions for the money to then look to why in my opinion,
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after the collapse of the soviet union such and their own is proved, completely unjustified policy of pressure was pursued against russia that we after all, this is a policy of pressure. nato expansion support for the separatist and congress's. you creation of a missile defense system. these are all elements of pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure, and then, you know, dragging ukraine into nato is all the building, the pressure pressure. pressure is which people whitening, which i think among other things because excessive production capacity is to recreate that during the confrontation with the soviet union, there were many centers created in specialists on the soviet union who could not do anything else. they convinced the political leadership that it is necessary to continue chiseling, the russian to try to break it up to create on this territory several clauses,
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a state entities and to subdue them in a divided for which to use their combined potential for the future. struggle with china you. this is a mistake, including the excessive potential of those who worked for the confrontation with the soviet union. it is necessary to get rid of this. there should be new, fresh forces, people who will look into the future and understand what is happening in the world with, with the look at how indonesia is developing the 600000000 people. where can we get away from that? nowhere. we just have to assume that the indonesia will answer. it is already in the club of the world's leading economies, no matter who likes it or dislike. so it comes to the queue. yes, we understand and are aware that in the united states, despite all they can amik problems, the situation is still normal with the economy growing decently. the g d p is
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growing by 2.5 percent if i'm not mistaken. and the most d it's okay. but if we want to insure the future, then we need to change your approach to what it's changing. as i already said, the world with never been less change regardless of how the developments in ukraine and the world is changing. in the united states themselves, experts are writing that the united states are none the less gradually changing their position in the world. it is, you are experts who write that i just read that. the only question is how this would happen painfully and quickly or gently and gradually been seen. and this is written by people who are not as anti american because they simply follow global development trends. that's it. and in order to assess them and change policies, we need people who think look forward can analyze and recommend certain decisions at the level of political leaders. i just have to ask,
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you've said clearly that nato expansion, where it is a violation of the promise you all are made and such as, i mean it's, it's a threat to your country. right before you send troops in to ukraine, the vice president. i'd states with munich security conference and encouraged the president of ukraine to join nato. do you think that was an effort to provoke you into military actions? i my goal is to ensure that the best day when the got cut up and then the got cut up. and uh, luckily i repeat once again, we have repeatedly repeatedly proposed to seek a solution to the problems that arose and ukraine up to 2014. the tongue to peaceful means, but no one listens so so and then more over the ukranian leaders who were under the complete us control southern lead declared that they would not comply with the men's agreements. they dislike everything there and continued military activity in the territory. sla floor,
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that's why union city police and that those can be william mr for him. but either i usually have an additional active and imperative that the territory was being exploited by may so military structures under the guise of various personnel training and retraining centers. they essentially begun to create basis there. that's all you're creating announced that the russians were a non pitch alert nationality. well passing the laws that limit the rights of non digital or nationalities in ukraine. and what did you see you were ukraine having received all the south eastern territories as a gift from the russian, people suddenly announced that the russians were a non digital or nationality in the territory. is that norma visible that i've seen? you know, it, could i teach, like all this put together, elected the decision. so in the war that neo nazi started in ukraine in 2014. do you, do you think so?
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lensky has the freedom to negotiate a settlement to this conflict. and i don't know the details, so of course it's difficult for me to judge, but i believe he has in any case he used to have his father fought against the fastest nazis during world war 2. i once talked to him about this. i said, lord, you, what are you doing? why are you supporting neo nazis in ukraine today? while your father fought against fascism? he was a front line soldier. no, i will not tell you what answer to this is a separate topic and i think it's incorrect for me to do so this to the freedom of choice. why not? he came to bar on the expectations of ukrainian people that he would lead ukraine. so piece, we talked about this, it was not the things that there was that he won the election. so overwhelmingly.
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then when he came to power, in my opinion he realized 2 things. firstly, it is better not to clash with neo nazis and the nationalist because they are aggressive and very active here. you can expect anything from them. and secondly, they us sled, west supports them and will always support those who in sagging eyes with russia and it is beneficial and safe. so he took the relevant position despite promising his people. so and the war in ukraine, he just saved his voters. what do you think at this point as of february 2024? he has the latitude, the freedom to speak with you or your government directly about putting vendors, which clearly isn't helping his country or the world. can he do that? do you think, you know, i'll put you on, you have to ensure that she might not love this advice. he considers himself out of state. sure thing, but he won the election. that's what was the do it yourself though. we believe in russia that the crew did not use the primary source of the power for everything
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that had been dr. 24 things we ship them and in this sense, even today government, this flaws with impressions, you will please, but he considers himself the president. then he is recognized by the united states to remove all of europe and practically the rest of the world in such a capacity some why not the good he can, this is no, i'm with him. when we negotiated with ukraine in this, the we agreed he was aware of this, this one of the more over the negotiations group leader, mr. or can we use his last name or should, i believe still has the faction of the ruling party, right? you want to the party of the president in the rod, he's going to right. are you still hesitant? presidential affection in the raw de comes every spot. let me put this case, still sits there. and he even put his preliminary signature on the document. any time selling you a deal with anything you publicly stated, so the whole world's we were ready to sign this document the company. but mr. johnson, then the prime minister authorized you regular website came into suite at us from
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doing this. let's say it was better to provide russia, they would give everything needed for us to return what was lost during the classes . and we agreed with this proposal, but we look, his statement has been published. he said publicly, the only thing you're gonna need a return to this or not. so what those question is, do they want it or not? show this for you? what is it just for their own president, 0 crane issue that degree and somebody has a, can you go she, asians with us? no questions. i mean is with him cancel that things ready on the customer? and that's it. what's not the way i've never refused to go to washington, please, and when your cousin were here, all the time is rushed already not goes on. yes, we have not refused. it was then who publicly refused to play it. well, what am cancel his decrees doing? you can answer it again. you want to go station see, but we have never refused governments. the really good thing is putting in the johnson and the fact that they unpaid, the demand or persuasion of mr. johnson, the former prime minister of great britain,
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seems ridiculous and very sad to me. because this we're done with mr. r. a. come me a put in. we could have stopped also still at these with more a year and a half ago already. you might that the but the british persuaded us and we refused this thing up and i think, where is mister johnson now? and the war continues. that's a good question. where do you think he is and why did he do the plan? pretty and it wasn't that just your present. you pretty much. what's your hell? no. let's assume the i don't understand it myself. what i see you more than that because there was a general starting point for some reason. everyone had the illusion that rush, it could be defeated on the battlefield. i choose to here. not because of arrogance because of a pure heart, but not because of a great mind. you've described the connection between russia and ukraine. you've just got russia itself a couple of times as orthodox that's central to your understanding of russia. you
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said your orthodox, what does that mean for you? you're a christian leader by your own description. so what effect does that have on you, as you know, as i already mentioned, then kind 188 these with, with me friends of a lot in there himself, was baptized. and following the example of his grandmother, we're princess olga. then he baptized because this one and then gradually over the course of several years, he baptized all the rooms. it's a you, it was a lengthy process from a vague, in secretion. no. can your single many years or how do i play? uh, i must put that in the end. this orthodoxy eastern christianity deeply rooted itself in the consciousness of the russian people that i see under shale a split a rush to expand it, then absorbed other nations who profess islam. who does. and today's in russia has
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always been very loyal to those people who are profession of their religions. this is her strength. communion, this is like i'm so lovely clear with them. and the fact is that the main past child with this, i mean the values are very similar, not to say the same in all the world. the religions that i've just mentioned un, which are the traditional religions of the russian federation. any russian i sees good. can you not see what i see? the bus by the way, russian on north. these were always very care of. i will know the culture and the religion of those people who came into the russian empire or at the, at the few this, in my opinion, it forms the basis of both of the gear and the so you can stability in the russian state to a different level, all the people's, inhabiting russia basically considered their mothers gonna, uh, say people move over to you or so you are from left in america. and even clearer and more understandable example, should the people come, but the say have come to you or to european countries from the historical homeland
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so that, you know, when people who professed different religions in russia considered russia their mother language, they have no other mother like leasing, just go to a unit table you might be interested in. we're together. this is one big family as me and our traditional values are very similar to settling. and i've just mentioned one big family, but everyone has his ex, her own family. you said this is the basis of our society and if we say that the mother land and the family are specifically connected with each other. yes, i'm going storage and that you seem, yeah, it is in the the case since it is possible to ensure a normal future for children and our families, unless we insure a normal, sustainable future for the entire country for the motherland. bleaching the shooting. the system, that is why the patriarch sentiment is so strong and russian now the to
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the one way in which the religions are different is that christianity is specifically a non violent religion. jesus says turn the other cheek, don't kill. how can i eat or who has to kill any country? how can a leader be a christian? how do you reconcile that to yourself? what's your name? you said it's the truth as a sheet. you see that you so it is very easy when it comes to protecting one's self and one's family to one's homeland industry. so we, we won't attack anyones. we'll speak a little, especially we use the when did the development? so ukraine start someplace what's shown to things like with the talent and they are still appeasing dunbar has begun. actually that's when they start it. and we're protecting our people, any ourselves, are homeless that are future and then you know, when you think, but he really is talked about like as for religion in general,
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maybe just below if and i see it, you know, it's not about external manifestations. it's not about going to church every day or banging your head on the floor, just going to it on the stay. it is in the heart just in the, in our culture is so human oriented in gene. that's the ascii who was very well known in the west and the genius of the russian culture, russian literature. so successful colanda about this, about the russian. so we'll get you to kind of see speech with it on the way it's wishing. i vish them when we're shot. seamless to talk there. all right, western societies, more pragmatic distortions. people think more about the external and about moral values when you're putting in my kitchen. i don't know. maybe you want to agree with me, but it's western culture is more pragmatic enough to request more than just know what she wouldn't she more no more felt on me. i'm not saying this is bad. it makes as possible for today's golden 1000000000 to achieve good success. in production,
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even in science and so on. so what are you good, uh, what do you mind your mac or no? so there's nothing wrong with that. i'm just saying that we kind of look the same diminishing but all right, so do you see the supernatural at work is you look out across what's happening in the world. now? do you see god at work? do you ever think to yourself, these are forces that are not human then you have to adjust that we're doing where no more. i don't know to be honest. i don't think so to see why it's why i'm looking. my opinion is that the development of the world community is in accordance with the inherent laws. and those laws are what they are will assume that was to be challenged. so it's always being this way in the history of men congress doesn't. some nations and countries rose became stronger and more numerous, and then less the international stage losing the status, they have the custom to disappear function that there's probably no need for me to
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give examples. but let's start with the game is fun and cord conquers the golden horse and then, and with the roman empire, jewish discussions, it seems that there has never been anything like the roman empire in the history of mankind, though lot of what was to be in the copy it was never the less the potential of the barbarians gradually grew as that their population. in general, the barbarians were getting stronger and begun to develop economically as we would say today. and then we just getting the new people gets this eventually led to the usual lapse of the roman empire and the regime imposed by the roman. it's lucky it is a practical ever. it took 5 centuries for the roman empire to fall apart. see what your needs, if that's a, a difference with whether it's happening now. but let's say so you mean is that all the processes of change are happening at the much faster pace than enrollment
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science? so when does the a i empire start? do you think? yeah, so so what we're asking increasingly more complicated questions to answer them. you need to be an expert then big number to some big data and a i and then kind of destroying leave facing many threats suite of new to the genetic researches. so it is now possible to create this super human, a specialized human being a genetically engineered athlete. scientists, military man, got their records that the loan laws had already had the chip implanted in there. pretty much raining, the usaa you on the musket video, there's a cheap, almost to go with actually what do you think of that know musket the other much the most cost? well, i think there is no stopping he alone, musk he will do as he sees fit, undiscovered,
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the less you need to find some common ground with him to search for ways to persuade. in the thing, he's a smart person, i truly believe he is now. and so you'll need to reach an agreement with him because there's a process needs to be formalized and subjected to certain rules. so to avoid, what if i need some of these as we can with it? maybe we should meet just knowledge you me to can you come in at the has to consider what is going to happen through the window is development in genetic science. some more the now i would go, i'm going to make an approximate prediction of what will happen and was so we will . so she stood when you what the gentleman, what was you? few, unless you need a blood it to the once many kinds of hell. the clinics essential threats coming from nuclear weapons. all nuclear nations begins to come to terms with one another, things that i realize lucas with a negligent use of nuclear weapons already to dr. young man and cancer extension. we're still going to you again the can you push real quick,
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you've done so many minutes? no, but when you call us nice coupling you was, it is impossible to stop researching genetics or hey, i today just as it was impossible to stop the use of gunpowder either. back in the day, it is pretty though you've sit on the bench loosed a bunch of sweet rosel visit. but as soon as we realize that the threat comes from unbridled and uncontrolled developments of a i go way to or genetics or any other field. the time will come to reach an international agreement on how to regulate this. thanks. i, i, i appreciate all the time you've given us. i'm just gonna ask you one last question and that's about some of these very famous new i states, probably not here. evan grows. cadets who's the wall street journal reporter, he's $32.00 and he's been in prison for almost a year. this is a huge story united states, and i just want to ask you directly without getting into the tails of it to your version of what happened if as a sign of your decency, you'll be willing to release him to us and will bring him back to the united states
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mostly because he will is rest of the but it will, yeah. somebody kind of some we should police shooting. we have done so many and gestures of goodwill out of decency that i think we have run out of them. yeah. hasn't yet, you know, we have never seen anyone that reciprocate to us in a similar manner of to me. however, in theory, we can say that we do not rule out that we can do that and it's gonna stream adults to most i'm looking for our partner steak and reciprocal steps station. and usually it's a settlement issue. when i talk about the partners, i 1st of all refer to special services. i think those experts are next door, special services are in contact with one another. they are talking about the matter in question. not to but you should get there is no, it's a boot to settle this issue that to hear if we're willing to solve is if you're
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going to know slowly, i've got to do it. but there are certain terms being discuss device, special services channels, nothing comes out when you have the space. fortunately, i believe an agreement can be reached. so typically, i mean, this doesn't happen for obviously centuries. one country catches under 5, within its borders. it trades it for one of its own entail guys in another country . i think it's not my business, but what makes this difference is the guys, obviously not us. why as a kid, and maybe he was breaking your law in some way, but he's not a super spy and everybody knows that. and he's being held hostage in exchange, which is true with respect is true, never knows is true. so maybe he's in a different category, maybe it's not fair to ask for, you know, somebody else in exchange for letting him out. maybe it degrades russia to do that later. more than a couple within the body shop, which he wants to. and you know, you can give a different interpretation, so what constitutes
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a spine which you're taking, but there are certain things provided by law. if person gets a secret information and does the ends of conspiratorial manner. and then this is a qualified as espionage issue. and that is exactly what he was doing and he was receiving classified comes with a bunch of information and he did cover police that wouldn't maybe he did that out of carol. it's less or his own initiative for someone considering the sheer fact. this is qualified as espionage and it's funny. the fact has been proven as he was called the red handed when he was receiving this information. if it had been some farfetched excuse decides, fabrication something not proven. it would have been a different story than seeking it. but he was called rent, hadn't met them, and it was a secret way of getting confidential information. and that you, that what is it entails? but are you suggesting who was working for the was government for nato? or he was just a reporter who was given materials. he wasn't supposed to have the seem like very
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different, very different things. and i just learned that go on of the issues i don't know for he was working on the guns practice, but i would like to reiterate that i'm getting classified information in secret to as cold as we all know i'm showing them and he was working for the us special services, some other agencies. oh, i don't think he was working for monaco as monica always hardly interested in getting that information. just it is up to a special services to come to an agreement. nation. you see some ground where it has being lazed. there are people who in review are not connected with special services. so you are stuck with me. tell you a story about a person serving a sentence in an allied country and the us is what i'm showing. you really can 01 person you to and it's patriotic sentiments,
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illuminated the band that in one of the european capital smelling e mail. so we can look up during the events in the caucasus. do you know what he was doing? which simulate, you know, i mean, i don't want to say that, but i will do it any way. he was laying our soldiers taken prisoner on the road and then drove his scar over their heads. what kind of person is that too, if you like, can he even be called humus wilson put through a couple of liquid, you know, let me see what it is. but there was a patriot who eliminated him in one of the european capital sites. he, you know, yet whether he did it of his own volition or not, that is a different question. if i were to, what does that mean? that's a completely different. i mean, i mean is that though your role, like make me feel don't commit, do something different, you know, listed on the samples didn't stay shifted as long as he's not just like a journalist and that guy rates are a, he's a journalist who is secretly getting confidential information,
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can you do that for me? yes, it is different, but still i'm talking about other people for essentially controls by the us. so thirty's, wherever they are serving a sentence. so you do to you, there is an ongoing dialogue between the special services. this has to be resolved in a con, responsible and professional manner. they are keeping in touch, so let them do their work. job customer on which i do not rule out the person you refer to. mr. gerson events may return to his mother. later by the end of the day, it does not make any sense to keep him in prison. in russia, we want the us special services to think about how they can contribute to achieving the goals or special services are pursuing the problem. we're ready to talk more over. the dogs are on their way. and there have been many successful examples of the stocks crowned with success. probably this is going to be crowned with success
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as well. doesn't have the good, but we have to come to an agreement that will be let them out as present. thank you. i also want him to return to his home in the glass line. absolutely sincere own. let me say once again, the dialog continues on the left, the more public we render things of this nature, the more difficult it becomes to resolve them. everything has to be done in calling a man. i wonder if that's i wonder if that certainly is with the war though also, i mean, i just want to, i guess i want to ask one more question, which is and maybe you don't want to say so for strategic reasons. but are you worried that what's happening in ukraine could lead to something much larger and much more horrible? and how motivated are you used to call the us government and say, what's come to terms
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of, do you have risk of no, i already said that we did not refuse to talk. we're willing to negotiate. it is the western side, but, and ukraine is obviously a satellite to say something to us. it is evident that you know, i do not want you to take it as if i'm looking for a strong worth or a mental illness company. but we both understand what is happening. you know, so, but yes, was focusing with them in the financial support. $72000000000.00 you was dollars was provided to germany ring 2nd then other european countries come a girl only. purple dozens of billions of us dollars already. oh, so you're great, there's a huge influx of weapons, especially to in this case you should tell the current to premium leadership to stop and come to negotiating tables, resend this absurd decrees just because you go way. we just,
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we did nothing and you said, sure, but you already said it. i didn't think you meant it as an insulting, as you already said correctly. it's been reported that ukraine was prevented from negotiating a peace settlement by the following british prime minister, acting on behalf of the, by the ministrations of course or satellite. the countries control small countries that's not new. and that's why i asked about dealing directly with the binding ministration, which is making these decisions. now it's presidents a wednesday of ukraine as well. yes, sir. mistrust agent is going on going up cuz it also has to be to go. yep. well, if there's a lensky administration in ukraine refused to negotiate. i assume they did it under the instruction from washing machine. washington believes it should be the wrong decision and even the let amending it, let it find a delicate excuse so that no one is insulted. let it come up with the way out with a new thing with because it was not us who made this decision, it was them to so let them.

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