and this, and that's why we see that the, the independent candidates actually, uh what, what are the lead? yeah, we'll keep you aware of the results from august on the general election as they come in. but next year, in order to we bring you parts to help them much talked about the interview between lot of them are putting on us host tucker carlson. the one on one is the 1st time the russian president has stuff done with a western journalist since the start of the ukraine conflict and the to our conversation to live. we want to try to hit the, [000:00:00;00]

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going underground can why do you think that is just to get to a motive? i know you're clearly better about it. i understand. but why do you think the west rebuffed you then? why, the hostility, why did the end of the cold war not fix the relationship? what motivates this from your point of view, which you said i was bitter about the answer? no, it's not bitterness. it's just a statement of fact. we're not the bride and groom. bitterness, resentment, it's not about those kinds of methods. in such circumstances, we just realized we weren't welcome there. that's all okay, fine. but let's build relations in another manner. let's look for common ground elsewhere. why we received such a negative response? you should ask your leader. i can only guess why too big a country with its own opinion and so on. and the united states, i have seen how issues are being resolved and not so i will give you another

example. now concerning ukraine, the us lead to ship exalts pressure, and all nato members obediently vote even if they do not like something. now i'll tell you what happened in this regard with ukraine in 2008. although it's being discussed. i'm not going to open a secret to you, say anything new. nevertheless, after that, we tried to build relations in different ways. for example, the events in the middle east in iraq, we were building relations with the united states in a very soft, prudent cautious manner. i repeatedly raised the issue that the united states should not support separatism or terrorism in the north caucasus, but they continued to do it anyway. and political support information support, financial support, even military support came from the united states and its satellites with terrorist groups in the caucasus. i once raised this issue with my colleague, also the president of the united states. he says it's impossible. do you have proof?

and i said, yes, i was prepared for this conversation and i gave him that proof. he looked at it and you know what? he said, i apologize, but that's what happened. a quote, he says, well, i'm going to kick the arrest. we waited and waited for some response. there was no reply. i once raised this issue with my colleague, also the president of the united states. he says, it's impossible. do you have proof? i said yes. and i was prepared for this conversation and i gave him that proof. he looked at it and you know what? he said, i apologize, but that's what happened. i'll quote, he says, well, i'm going to kick their os. we waited and waited for some response. there was no reply. i said to the f s b director, right to the see i, what is the result of the conversation with the president? he wrote the ones twice, and then we got a reply. we have the answer in the archive. cecilia replied,

we have been working with the opposition in russia. we believe that this is the right thing to do and we will keep on doing. it's just ridiculous. well, ok, we realized that it was out of the question, forces in opposition to you, to your thing, to see a strong over to your government and your score statement in that particular case, the set product is the tenor is 2 4th with us in the caucuses that's who they called the opposition. this is the 2nd point. the 3rd moment, a very important one is the moment when the us missile defense abm system was created. the beginning, we persuaded for a long time, not to do it in the united states. more over after i was invited by bush juniors, father of bush senior, to visit his place on the ocean. i had a very serious conversation with president bush and his team. i propose that the united states, russia, and europe jointly create a missile defense system that we believe is created unilaterally, threatens our security,

despite the fact that the united states officially said that it was being created against missile threats from a ran. that was the justification for the deployment of the missile defense system . i suggested working together, russia, united states, and europe. they said it was very interesting. they asked me, are you serious? i said, absolutely. let me ask what year was this new phone? if i don't remember, it is easy to find out on the internet when i was in the usa at the invitation of course, senior systems which is even easier to learn from someone. i'm going to tell you about. i was told it was very interesting. i said, just imagine if we could tackle such a global strategic security challenge together, the world would change. would probably have disputes, probably economic and even political ones, but we could drastically change the situation in the world. he says, yes and asks, are you serious? i said,

so of course we need to think about it. i'm told i said go ahead please. then secretary of defense are gates, former director of the c i a and secretary of state c. rice came here in this cabinet right here at this table. they set on this side, me the foreign minister, the russian defense minister on that side. they said to me, you said yes, we have thought about it. we agree. i said, thank god, great. but with some exceptions. so twice you've described us presidents making decisions. and then being under cut by their agency heads. so it sounds like you're describing a system that's not run by the people who are elected in your talent. that's right . that's right. in the end, they just told us to get lost. i am not going to tell you the details because i think it is incorrect. after all, it was a confidential conversation. but our proposal was declined. that's effect. it was

right then when i said no, but then we will be forced to take counter measures. we will create such strikes systems that will certainly overcome missile defense systems. the answer was, we are not doing this against you and you do what you want, assuming that it is not against us, not against the united states. i said, okay, very well. that's the way it went. and we created hypersonic systems within the continental range, and we continue to develop them. we are now ahead of everyone, the united states and other countries in terms of the development of hypersonic strikes systems and we are improving them every day. but it wasn't us, we propose to go the other way and we would push it back. now about nachos expansion to the east. well, we were promised no, ne, towed to the east, not an inch to the east as we were told. and then what they said, well, it's not in trend on paper, so we'll expand. so there were 5 waves of expansion, the baltic states, the whole of eastern europe,

and so on. and now i come to the main thing. they have come to ukraine, ultimately in 2008 at the summit. in bucharest, they declared that the doors for ukraine in georgia to join nato were open now about how decisions are made. the germany front seemed to be against it as well as some other european countries. but then as it turned out later, president bush and he was such a tough guy, a tough politician. as i was told later, he exhibited pressure on us and we had to agree. it's ridiculous. it's like kindergarten. wherever the guarantees. what kindergarten is this, what kind of people are these? who are they? you see they were pressed, they agreed. and then they say, ukraine won't be in nato, you know? i say, i don't know. i know you agreed in 2008. why won't you agree in the future?

well, they've pressed us then. i say, why won't they press you tomorrow? and you'll agree again, well, it's nonsensical. who's that to talk to? i just don't understand. we're ready to talk. but with whom, where are the guarantees? none. so they started to develop the territory of ukraine. whatever is there, i have told you the background, how this territory developed, what kind of relations that were with russia every 2nd or 3rd person there has always had some ties with russia. and during the elections in already independent software and ukraine, which gained its independence as a result of the declaration of independence. and by the way, it says that ukraine is a neutral state, and in 2008, suddenly the doors, or gates to nato, open to it. oh, come on. this is not how we agreed. now, all the presidents that have come to power and ukraine, they've relied on an electorate with a good attitude to russia in one way or another. this is the south east of ukraine . this is a large number of people. and it was very difficult to dissuade this electorate,

which had a positive attitude towards russia. victo young cove, which came to power. and how the 1st time he won after president coo tomorrow. they organized the 3rd round, which is not provided for in the constitution of ukraine. this is a could just imagine someone in the united states wouldn't like the outcome in 2014 the french before that. no, this was before that after president, which mont, victoria, nicole, which one the elections. however, his opponents did not recognize that victory. the us supported the opposition, and the 3rd round was scheduled. what is this? this is a coup to us supported it. and the winner of the 3rd round came to power. this is imagine this in the us. something was not to someone's liking. and the 3rd round of election, which the us constitution does not provide for, was organized nonetheless, it was done in ukraine. ok, victor use jenko who was considered a pro western politician,

came to power fine. we have built relations with him as well. he came to moscow with visits. we visited key if i visited it to we met in an informal setting. if he is pro western soviet, it's fine, let people do their job. the situation should develop inside the independent ukraine itself. as a result of cushion was leadership, things got worse and victory, a new could which came to power after all, maybe he wasn't the best president and politician. i don't know, i don't want to give assessments. the, however, the issue of the association with the e u. came up, we have always been leading into this suit yourself. but when we read through that treaty of association, it turned out to be a problem for us. since we had a free trade zone and open customs borders with ukraine, which under this association had to open its voters for europe, which could have led to flooding of our market. we said no,

this is not going to work. we shall close all borders with ukraine than the customs . but what does that is? your new coverage started to calculate how much ukraine was going to gain. how much to lose and said to his european partners, i need more time to think before signing. the moment he said that the opposition began to take destructive steps, which was supported by the west. it all came down to might and then the crew and ukraine. so he did more train with russia then with the you. you claimed it. of course, it's not even the matter of trade volume, although for the most part it is, it is the matter of cooperation ties which the entire ukrainian economy was based on. the cooperation ties between the enterprises were very close since the times of the soviet union. one enterprise there used to produce components to be assembled, both in russia and ukraine and vice versa. they used to be very close ties. occluded ta was committed, although i shall not delve into details now as i find doing it inappropriate, the us told us, call me on

a co which down and we will come the opposition let the situation unfold in the scenario of a political settlement. we said, all right, agreed, let's do it this way. as the americans requested us, you on a call, which did use neither the armed forces nor the police, yet the armed opposition committed a cool n t f. what is that supposed to mean? who do you think you are? i wanted to ask the vin us leadership with the backing of home pretty by just with the backing of c i a of course the old i zation you wanted to join back in the days . as i understand. maybe we should thank god they didn't let you in. although it is a serious organization. i understand my form of visa v, in the sense that i served in the 1st main directorate, soviet union's intelligence service. they have always been our opponents. a job is a job, technically they did everything right. they achieve their goal of changing the government. however, from political standpoint, it was

a colossal mistake. surely it was political leadership miscalculation. they should have seen what it would evolve into. so in 2008, the doors of nature were open for ukraine. in 2014, there was a cool. they started persecuting those who did not accept the crew. and it was indeed a cool. they created a threat to crimea, which we had to take under our protection. they launched a warrant on bass in 2014, with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. this is when it started, there was a video of aircraft attacking donuts from above. they launched a large scale military operation, then another one. when they failed, they started to prepare the next one full this against the background of military development of this territory. an opening of nato's doors. how could we not express concern over what was happening from our side? this would have been a comfortable negligence. that's what it would have be. it's just that the us political leadership pushed us to the line. we could not cross because doing so

could have ruined russia itself. besides, we could not leave our brothers in face, and in fact, a part of russian people in the face of this war machine that was 8 years before the current conflict started. so what was the trigger for you? what was the moment where you decided you had to do this? is my child, and initially it was the coo and ukraine that provoked the conflict. by the way, back then, the representatives of 3 european countries, germany, poland, and friends, arrived. they were the guarantors of the signed agreement between the government of young co, which and the opposition. they signed it as guarantors. despite that, the opposition committed a crew, and all these countries pretended that they didn't remember that they were guarantors of peaceful settlement. they just threw it in the stove right away, and nobody recalls that. i don't know if the us know anything about that agreement between the opposition and the authorities and its 3 guarantors who instead of bringing this whole situation back in the political field,

supported the cool. although it was meaningless, believe me because president you on a coverage agreed to all conditions he was ready to hold early election, which he had no chance to win. frankly speaking, everyone knew that. then why the cool, why the victims? why threatening try me up. why launching an operation and don't boss this? i do not understand. that is exactly what the miscalculation is. c, i a did its job to complete the cool. i think one of the deputy secretaries of state said that it cost a large sum of money, almost 5000000000, but the political mistake was colossal. why would they have to do that? all this could have been done legally without victims, without military action, without losing crimea. we would have never considered to even lift a finger if it hadn't been for the bloody developments on maison because we agreed with the fact that after the collapse of the soviet union, our borders should be along the borders of former unions. republics, we agreed to that, but we never agreed to nato's expansion. and moreover,

we never agreed that ukraine would be in nature. we did not agree to nato bases there without any discussion with us for decades. we kept asking, don't do this, don't do that. and what triggered the latest events. firstly, the current ukrainian leadership declared that it was not implemented minsk agreements, which had been signed as you know, after the events of 2014 in minsk where the plan of peaceful settlement in dawn best was set forth. but no of the current ukrainian leadership for administer all other officials. and then president himself said that they don't like anything about the minsk agreements. in other words, they were not going to implemented a year or a year and a half ago. former leaders of germany and france said openly to the whole world that they indeed signed the uminski agreements. but they never intended to implement them. they simply let us by the nose degree of going into dunbar. was there anyone for you to talk to?

did you call us president secretary state and say if you keep notarizing ukraine with nato forces, this is going to get this is going to be a, we're going to act to stay on the books and go, and we talked about this all the time. we address the united states and european countries need to ship to stop these developments immediately to implement the minsk agreements. frankly speaking, i didn't know how we were going to do this, but i was ready to implement them. these agreements were complicated for ukraine. they included lots of elements of those don't bus territories, independence. that's true. however, i was absolutely confident and i am saying this to you now. i honestly believed that if we managed to convince the residence of dunbar and we had to work hard to convince them to return to the ukranian statehood. and gradually the wounds would start to heal when this part of territory re integrated itself into common social

environment. when the pensions and social benefits were paid again, all the pieces would gradually fall into place. no, nobody wanted that. everybody wanted to resolve the issue by military force only. we could not let that happen. and the situation got to the point when the ukrainian side announced, no, we will not do anything. they also started preparing for military action. it was they who started the war in 2014. our goal is to stop this war. and we did not start this war in 2022. this is an attempt to stop it. do you think you've stopped it now? i mean, if you achieve dreams, you have to know we haven't achieved our aims yet. because one of them is the notification. this means the prohibition of all kinds of neo nazi movements. this is one of the problems that we discussed during the negotiation process, which ended in december early last year. and it was not our initiative because we

were told by the europeans in particular that it was necessary to create conditions for the final signing of the documents. my counterparts in france and germany said, how can you imagine them signing the treaty with a gun to their heads? the troops should be pulled back from keith. i said, all right. we withdrew the troops from keith as soon as we pulled back our troops from kiff, our ukrainian negotiators immediately through all our agreements reached and it's tumble into the bin and got prepared for a long standing armed confrontation with the help of the united states. and its satellites in europe, that is how the situation has developed. and that is how it looks now. what does the party make or what is the notification? what would that mean with that is what i want to talk about right now. it is a very important issue, did not certification of the gaming independence ukraine began to such as some western analysts say it's identity and it came up with nothing better than to build

this identity upon some false heroes collaborated with hitler. and i have already said that in the early 19th century, when the theorist of independence and sovereignty of ukraine appeared, they assume that an independent ukraine should have very good relations with russia . but due to the historical development, these territories were part of the polish lithuanian commonwealth, poland, where ukrainians were persecuted and treated quite brutally, as well as were subject to cruel behavior. they were also attempts to destroy their identity. all this remained in the memory of the peoples when world war 2 broke out . part this is really nationalist, a least collaborated with hitler, believing that he would bring them freedom, the german troops, even the ss troops made hitler's collaborators do the dirtiest work of exterminating the polish and jewish population. hence this brutal massacre of the polish and jewish population as well as the russian population to this was led by

the persons who are well known fund era who cabbage. it was these people who were made national heroes. that is the problem. and we are constantly told that nationalism and neo nazis and exist in other countries as well. yes, there are ceilings, but we uproot them and other countries fight against them. but ukraine is not the case. these people have been made into national heroes and ukraine. monuments to these people have been erected, they are displayed on flags. their names are shouted by crowds that walk with torches as it was in nazi germany. these were the people who exterminated poles, jews, and russians. it is necessary to stop this practice and prevent the dissemination of this concept. i say that you craniums are part of the one russian people. they say, no, we are a separate people. okay, fine. if they consider themselves a separate people, they have the right to do so. but not on the basis of naziism, the nazi ideology. would you be satisfied with the territory that you have now?

and then just, you know, i will finish answering the question, you just asked a question about neo nazis and, and did not certification. look, the president of ukraine visited canada. the story is well known but is silenced in the western countries. the canadian parliament introduced a man who, as the speaker of the parliament said, fought against the russians during the world war 2. well, who fought against the russians during world war 2, hitler and his accomplices? it turned out that this man served in the assess troops. he personally killed russians, polls and use. the assess troops consisted of ukrainian nationalists, who did this dirty work. the president of ukraine stood up with the entire parliament of canada and applauded this man. how can this be imagined? the president of ukraine himself, by the way, is a jew by nationality. when we're really my question is what do you do about it?

i mean hitler's been dead for 80 years. nazi germany no longer exist to and so true . and so i think what you're saying is you want to extinguish or at least control ukrainian nationalism. but how, how do you do that? listen to me. your question is very subtle. i cannot tell you what i think. do not take offense, of course on this question appears to be subtle. it is quite pesky. you say hitler has been dead for so many years. he is, but his example lives on people who exterminated jews. russians and polls are alive and the president, the current president of today's ukraine, uploads him in the canadian parliament, gives a standing ovation. can we say that we have completely up routed this audiology? if what we see is happening today, that is what denies that the cation is in our understanding. we have to get rid of those people who maintain this concept and support this practice and try to preserve it. that is, what denies implication is,

that is what we mean the as a result of why it's can be started by line, please can be satisfied for the importance of we could never be of a station. so that transparency is an extraordinary drawn mistake. patrice then just succeeded in finding documents that existed in making them available to the world public. i mean,

what could be more than that publishing information and sharing information with the public? he was exercising the right for a speech he did so in the public interest. so mommy applies tends to me, engulfing endlessly to relate continuously. and i know why advice may assume that no one who is the guy that illegal anymore wisely bought. adjustments for to be on box weighing a 175 used to go through the sentence. are we going to let that stay? so look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings accept. we're such orders at conflict with the 1st law show alignment justification. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to trace

a truck rather than to the various jobs. i mean, with artificial intelligence, we have somebody in the team and the robot most protects this phone existence with alexis there is no and inside over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd world will receive re washington, as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deal. so let me let me on. you have very quick propaganda. you know a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions, ask

a better. the answer is, will be the question. i mean, you love seeing those words isn't look, i do live most schools do. if you look on the initial, do 1 o'clock significantly post on zillow, will it be almost getting used to put value? what do you do, origin. but you also, as the was done, the supreme only begins systems to do what i see these the buses. the little gear limitation says this tutorial on both of

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