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a c, d is rumored to be very much disliked by the front line troops. so this is, this is a colossal match. so i think this is, there is no way for ukraine to continue to be an effective military force. with this kind of chaos hallmark cabs allies in washington react to this role of a dies buys and let's get as well as since a lot of their perceptions are, are formed by ignorance. they will probably be happy with what they, let's say, oh boy, the ukrainians are taking strong steps to straighten themselves out and they'll probably buy into the nonsense that all the failures on the battlefield work. because this is the illusion of, i think part of the loose nice problem is he did clash at time with western military advisors because he recognized taking advice from western military advisors about a combined arms military action is, is like trying to take, take advice on how to mix drinks at a bar from somebody who's
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a doesn't drink alcohol and there's never tasted office. that's the problem with the western military. they're pretending to know something about which they have 0 experience. given this needs, popularity is erected, mentioned among ukrainians. is there not a risk that this decision could backfire on the ukrainian president at home? oh, yes. oh, absolutely. i wouldn't. i cannot rule out the possibility of this, of, you know, fall fomenting a coup with some sort. but when other frontline, military units, the solution, he does have close ties with the as off and the crack and the times, the neo nazi elements. uh, that's one of the big negatives about solutions because he is tied into that reprehensible group of fighters. but if they decide that they're being sold out by the, you know, the jew president, which is how they view them all, then you know, you could have something pretty ugly unfolding and kept right. laurie jumped same
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pharmacy on a list and see a vert associates. thank you so much for your thoughts. were going to have to leave it that. great, thank you for those other top stories, the ssl, the final part of the cost since viral interview with a lot of your points in will be added right after a short break and you can already check it out. that's the full version, as well as the lights new stories on our team, dot com i'd they show up, josh, i'll be back at the top of the hour. if the latest they with us the, the israel to itself selfish interest is not just destroying its rep, is not only destroying the so called legitimacy as well in the eyes of the world when it's destroying the whole of the western project. the whole of the notion of
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western civilization and somehow western civilization being exceptional for the greatest civilization. now people are looking down at the when the, i just have to ask, you've said clearly that nato expansion, where it is a violation of the promise you all are made. and i mean it's, it's a threat to your country. right before you send troops in to ukraine device personally, united states with munich security conference and encouraged the president of ukraine to join nato. do you think that was an effort to provoke you into military actions you should've supposed to? i repeat once again. we have repeatedly repeatedly propose to seek a solution to the problems that arose in ukraine, often the 2014 who did talk through peaceful news. but no one listen to us. and
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more over the ukrainian leaders who are under the complete us control suddenly declared that they would not comply with the minutes. because we minutes. they disliked everything that and continued military activity in that territory. and in parallel, that territory was being exploited by nato military structures under the guise of various personnel training and retraining centers. they essentially began to create faces that, that's all ukraine announced that the russians were a little, was adopted, a non titular nationality. so while passing laws that limit the rights of non titular nationalities in ukraine, ukraine having received all the se in territories as a gift from the some people have, nobody suddenly announced that the russians were a non titular nationality in that territory. is it normal? all this put together led to the decision to end the war, that neo nazi started in ukraine in 2014. do you think so? lensky has the freedom to negotiate
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a settlement to this conflict. i don't know the details, of course it's difficult for me to judge, but i believe he has in any case to use to have his father forth against the fascist nazis during world war 2. i wants to talk to him about this. i said, beloved you, what are you doing? why are you supporting new nazis in ukraine today? while your father fought against fascism? he was a front line soldier. i will not tell you what he answered. this is a separate topic and i think it's incorrect for me to do so. but as to the freedom of choice, why not? he came to power on the expectations. so if you creating and people that he would lead you credit to peace. she talked about this, it was thanks to this that he won, the election overwhelmingly showed me. but then when he came to power, in my opinion, he realized 2 things. firstly, she does better not to clash with neo nazis and nationalists because they are aggressive and very active. you can expect anything from them. and secondly,
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the us led west supports them and will always support those who antagonize with russia. it is beneficial and safe. so he took the relevant positions, the slides, promising his people to end the war in ukraine. quickly deceived his voters. but do you think at this point as of february 2024, he has the latitude, the freedom to speak with you or your government directly about putting individuals clearly isn't helping his country or the world. can he do that? you think the junior ones? why not sure that he considers himself head of state he won the elections, although we believe in russia that the crew to talk is the primary source of power for everything that happened of to 2014. and in this sense associated even today's government is flawed against him, but he considers himself to present only stuff and he is recognized by the united states, all of europe, and practically the rest of the world in such
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a capacity. why not good casualties? we negotiated with ukraine and the stumble. we agreed he was aware of this being that more over the negotiation group leader. mr. outcome here is his last name. i believe i still heads the faction of the ruling party, the party of the president in the rhonda. he still heads the presidential faction in the rada, the countries parliament. he still sits there. he even put his preliminary signature on the document. i'm telling you about that. but then he publicly stated to the whole world, when we were ready to sign this document. but mr. johnson, then the prime minister of great britain came and dissuaded us from doing this, saying it was better to fight russia. they would give everything needed for us to return what was lost during the clashes with russia. and we agreed with this proposal from the look. his statement has been published. he said this publicly, can they return to this or not so much? the question is, do they want to do not further on president of ukraine issued
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a decree prohibiting negotiations with us. let him cancel that decree and that's it . we have never refused negotiations. indeed, we hear all the time. is russia ready? yes, we have not refused. it was them who publicly refused. well, let him cancel his decree and enter into negotiations, which we have never refused. and the fact that they obeyed the demand or persuasion of mister johnson, the former prime minister of great britain seems ridiculous and very sad to me. because as mister arrow com you put it is this thing. we could have stops these hostilities, this war a year and a half ago already. but the british persuaded us, and we refused this. where was mister johnson now? and the war continues to explain, john, so that's a good question. where do you think he is and what did he do? the party and it wasn't much facing hell knows, i don't understand it myself. there was a general starting point for some reason everyone had the illusion that russia
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couldn't be defeated on the battlefield because of arrogance. because of a pure heart, but not because of a great mind. you've described a connection between russia and ukraine. you've just got russia itself a couple of times as orthodox that's central to your understanding of russia. you said you're at work docs. what does that mean? for you, you're a christian leader to buy your own description. so what effect does that have on, you know, you know, as i already mentioned in 988 prince, let him in himself was baptized following the example of his grandmother, princess olga. and then he baptized his squad, and then gradually, over the course of several years, he baptized all the rules. it was a lengthy process from pagans to christians. it took many years. but in the end, this orthodoxy eastern christianity deeply rooted itself in the consciousness of the russian people. when russia expanded and observed other nations who profess islam. buddhism in 2 days of russia has always been very loyal to those people who
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profess other religions. this is her strength, this is absolutely clear. and the fact is that the main postulates main values are very similar, not to say the same. in all world religions i've just mentioned, and which of the traditional religions of the russian federation, russia, by the way, russian authorities were always very careful about the culture and religion of those people who came into the russian empire. this, in my opinion, forms the basis of both security and stability of the russian state owed all the peoples inhabiting russia, basically consider it the motherland. if say, people move over to you or to europe from latin america, and even clearer and more understandable example, people come, but yet they have come to you for to europe and countries from the historical homeland. and people who profess different religions in russia. consider russia, the motherland. they have no other motherland. we altogether,
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this is one big family. and our traditional values are very similar. i've just mentioned one big family, but everyone has, he's has his own family. and this is the basis of our society. and if we say that the motherland and the family are specifically connected with each other, it is indeed the case. since it is impossible to ensure a normal future for us children and families, unless we insure a normal, sustainable future for the entire country, for the motherland. that is why patriotic sentiment is so strong in russia. the one way in which the religions are different is that christianity is specifically a non violent religion. jesus says turn the other cheek, don't kill. how can i eat or who has to kill of any country? how can a leader be a christian? how do you reconcile that to yourself? what's your zip code? it is very easy when it comes to protecting one's self and one's family one's homeland. we won't attack anyone. when did the developments in ukraine start?
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since the qu, data and the hostilities and don't boss begin, that's when they started, and we are protecting our people, ourselves, our homeland and our future. as for religion in general, you know, it's not about external manifestations. it's not about going to church every day or banging your head on the floor. it is in the heart. and our culture is so human oriented, does through epsky, who is very well known in the west as the genius of russian culture. russian literature spoke a lot about this, about the russian. so after all, the wisdom society is more pragmatic. the russian people think more about the internal about model values. i don't know, maybe you want to agree with me. but the western culture is more pragmatic. often all, i'm not saying this is bad, it makes it possible for today's golden 1000000000 to achieve good success in production, even in science and so on. so there's nothing wrong with that. i'm just saying that we kind of look the same, but our minds are built a little differently which should look out across what's happening in the world. now, do you see god at work?
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do you ever think to yourself, these are forces that are not human then you have to get to know to be honest, i don't think so. my opinion is that the source of the development of the world community is in accordance with the inherent laws. and those laws are what they are . it's always been this way in the history of mankind. some nations and countries rose became stronger and more numerous. and then left the international stage, losing the status they had to custom to. there was probably no need for me to give examples, but we could start with getting his con and the whole conqueror as the golden hold . and then end with the roman empire. it seems that there has never been anything like the roman empire in the history of mankind. never the less, the potential of the bar variance gradually grew. as did their population. in general, the barbarians were getting stronger and began to develop economically. as we would say today, this eventually led to the collapse of the roman empire and the regime imposed by the romans center. however, it took 5 centuries for the roman empire to fall apart. the difference with what is
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happening now is that all the processes of change are happening at a much faster pace than enrollment times mission. so when does the a i empire start? do you think you're asking increasingly more complicated questions? to answer them. you need to be an expert in big numbers. big data and a i. mankind is currently facing many threats due to genetic researches. it is now possible to create a super human, a specialized human being. genetically engineer tacitly science is military man. there are reports that he learned must cuz already had a chip implanted in the human brain in the usa is what do you think of that? yeah, the much the most. well, i think there's no stopping, he long must. he will do as he sees fit, never the less you need to find some common ground with him. search for ways to persuade him. i think he's a smart person. i truly believe he is. so you need to reach an agreement with him because this process needs to be formalized and subjected to certain rules to
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manitoba has to consider. what is going to happen due to the newest developments in genetics or in a i. one can make an approximate prediction of what will happen once mankind felt an x, a central threat coming from nuclear weapons. all nuclear nations began to come to terms with one another, since they realize that negligent use of nuclear weaponry could drive humanity to extinction. it is impossible to stop researching genetic so a i today just as it was impossible to stop the use of guns held it back in the day . but as soon as we realized that the threat comes from unbridled and uncontrolled development of a i or genetics or any other fields, the time will come to reach an international agreement on how to re do you like these things. the name is controlling. i appreciate all the time you've given us. i'm just gonna ask you one last question and that's about some of these very famous, nice dates, probably not here. evan grows to, that's who's the wall street journal reporter. he's 32. and he's been in prison for
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almost a year. this is a huge store in united states, and i just want to ask you directly without getting into the details over to your version of what happened if as a sign of your decency, you will be willing to release them to us and will bring them back to the united states, a mistake because this we have done so many gestures of goodwill out of decency that i think we have run out of them. we have never seen anyone reciprocate to us in a similar manner. however, in theory, we can say that we do not rule out that we can do that. if our partners take reciprocal steps. when i talk about the partners, i 1st of all refer to special services, special services are in contact with one another. they are talking about the matter in question. there is no trouble to settle the issue. we are willing to solve it, but there are certain terms being discussed by a special services channels. i believe an agreement can be reached. so typically, i mean this stuff has happened for obviously, centuries one country catches under spied within its borders. it trades it for one of his own entail guys in another country. i think it's not my business,
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but what makes this difference, this guy. so obviously not us why he's a kid, and maybe he was breaking your law in some way, but he's not a super spy and everybody knows that. and he's being held hostage in exchange, which is true with respect is true, never knows is true. so maybe he's in a different category, maybe it's not fair to ask for, you know, somebody else in exchange for letting him out. maybe after grades, russia to do that. you know, you can give different interpretations to what constitutes a spy. but there are certain things provided by law, if a person gets secret information and does that in a conspiratorial manner, then this is qualified as espionage. and that is exactly what he was doing. he was receiving classified, confidential information and he did it covertly shows that maybe he had been implicated in that someone could have dragged him into that. maybe he did that out of callousness for on his own initiative considering the she effects. so this is qualified as espionage. the fact has been proven as he was caught red handed when
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he was receiving this information. if it had been some far fetched excuse for some fabrication, something not proven. it would have been a different story then. but he was caught red handed when he was secretly getting confidential information is what is it then? like, are you suggesting who was working for the was government or nato, or he was just a reporter who was given materials. he wasn't supposed to have the seem like very different, very different things. i don't know who he was looking for, but i would like to reiterate that getting classified information in secret, it's called espionage, and he was working for the us special services, some other agencies. i don't think that he was working for monica. as monica was hardly interested in getting that information, it is up to the special services to come to an agreement. some ground work has been laid. there are people who, in our view, are not connected with special services. let me tell you a story about a person serving a sentence in an allied country of the us. that person,
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due to patriarch sentiments, eliminated a band in one of the european capitals. during the events in the caucasus, do you know what he found it was doing? i don't want to say that, but i will do it any way. he was laying off soldiers taken prisoner on the road and then he drove his car over their heads. what kind of a person is that? can he be even called a human? but there was a patriot who eliminated him in one of the european capitals, whether he did that of his own volition or not. that is a different question. if i ever worked, what does that mean? that's a completely different. i mean, i mean, is it the new year old? like the don't take any samples instead of a shift that differently is not just a journalist. i reiterate to you as a journalist who was secretly getting confidential information. yes, it is different, but still,
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i am talking about other people who are essentially controlled by the us authorities, wherever they are serving a sentence. there is an ongoing dialogue between the special services. this has to be resolved in a calm, responsible, and professional manner as they are keeping in touch. so let them do their work. i do not rule out that the person you referred to, mr garcia, which may return to his mother land by the end of the day. it does not make any sense to keep them in prison in russia. we want the us special services to think about how they can contribute to achieving the goals our special services are pursuing. we are ready to talk more over the talks are underway, and there has been many successful examples of these talks crowned with success. probably this is going to be crowned with success as well, but we have to come to an agreement that will be what amount is present. thank you . i also want him to return to his homeland at last. i'm absolutely
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sincere, but let me say once again, the dialog continues to the most public. we are in the things of this nature, the more difficult it becomes to result in. everything has to be done in a calm manner. i wonder if it's, i wonder if that certainly is with the war though also, i mean, i just want to, i guess i want to ask one more question, which is you and maybe you don't want to say so for strategic reasons. but are you worried that what's happening in ukraine could lead to something much larger and much more horrible? and how motivated are you just to call the us government and say, what's come to terms younger risk of losing your cost a little bit ago, i already said that we did not refuse to talk. we are willing to negotiate. it is the western side, and ukraine is obviously a satellite state of the us. it is evident. i do not want you to take it as if i am looking for a strong word or an insult. but we both understand what is happening for the
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financial support. $72000000000.00 us dollars was provided. germany rank 2nd then other european countries come dozens of billions of us dollars or go to ukraine. there is a huge influx of weapons. in this case, you should tell the current ukraine and leadership to stop and come to the negotiating table. resend this absurd decree. we did not refuse. sure, but you already said i didn't think you meant it as an insult. think as you already said correctly. it's been reported that ukraine was prevented from negotiating a peace settlement by the farm. british prime minister, acting on behalf of the, by the ministrations of course, our satellite, the countries control small countries that's not new. and that's why i asked about dealing directly with the binding ministration, which is making these decisions not present as a wednesday of crane. nissan says, well, if this a lensky administration and ukraine refused to negotiate, i assume that they did it under the instruction from washington. if washington believes it to be the wrong decision selected to abandon it, let it find
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a delicate excuse so that no one is insulted. let it come up with a way out. it was not us who made this decision. it was them. so let them go back on it. that is it. however, they made the wrong decision, and now we have to look for a way out of the situation to correct their mistakes, if they did it. so let them corrected themselves. we support this listing. so i just wanna make sure i'm not misunderstanding what you're saying. i don't think that i am. i think you're saying you want a negotiated settlement to what's happening in your credit. right. and we made it, we prepared a huge documenting eastern bull that was initial to buy the head of the ukranian delegation. he fixed his signature to some of the provisions, not to all of it. he put his signature and then he himself said, we were ready to sign it and the war would have been over long ago, 18 months ago. however, prime minister johnson came, talked us out of it and we missed that chance when you go to, well, you missed it, you made a mistake, let them get back to that. that is all. why do we have to bother ourselves and
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correct somebody else's mistakes? no one can say it is all mistake. it was us who intensified the situation and decided to put an end to the war that started in 2014 and don't boss. as i have already said by means of weapons. let me get back to further in history. i already told you this, we would just discussing it. let us go back to 1991. when we were promised that nato would not be expanded to 2008 when the doors to nato open to the declaration of state sovereignty of ukraine, declaring ukraine, a neutral state. and let us go back to the fact that nato and us military basis started to appear on the territory of ukraine, creating threats for us. let us go back to coo data in ukraine in 2014. it is pointless though, isn't it? we may go back and forth endlessly, but they stop negotiations. is it a mistake? yes. correct. that we are ready. what else is needed? judy gets to humiliating at this point for nato to accept russian control of just
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what was it 2 years ago? ukrainian territory. yeah, all right, yeah, discuss how i said, let them think how to do it with dignity. there are options if there is a will. up until now that has been the approval and screaming about inflicting a strategic defeat on russia on the battlefield. now they are apparently coming to realize that it is difficult to achieve if possible at all. in my opinion, it is impossible, by definition, it is never going to happen. it seems to me that now those who are in power in the west have come to realize this as well. if so, if the realization has set in, they have to think what to do next. we are ready for this dialogue voice mails, or would you be willing to say, congratulations, nato, you one and just keep the situation where it is now. right. it's a big mistake. you know, it is a subject matter for the negotiations. no one is willing to conduct or to put it more accurately, stale, willing,
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but do not know how to do it. i know they want. it is not just i see it, but i know they do want it. but they are struggling to understand how to do it. they have driven the situation to the point where we are at it is not us who have done that. it is our partners, opponents who have done that well. now let them think how to reverse the situation . we are not against it. it would be funny if it were not so sad, this endless mobilization in ukraine, the hysteria, the domestic problems, sooner or later, it will, will result in an agreement. you know, this will probably sound strange given the current situation, but the relations between the 2 peoples will be rebuilt anyway. it will take a lot of time, but they will heal. i will give you very unusual examples. there is a come back to encounter on the battlefield. here is a specific example. ukrainian soldiers got encircled. this is an example from real life. our soldiers were shouting to them. there is no chance. surrender yourselves
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come out and you will be lives. suddenly, the ukrainian soldiers was screaming from there in russian. perfect russian saying russians do not surrender. and all of them perished. they still identify themselves as russian. what is happening is to a certain extent, an element of a civil war, which everyone in the west thinks that the russian people have been split by hostilities forever. know, they will be re united, the unity is still there. that's why other ukrainian or sort of things dismantling the ukranian orthodox church because it brings together not only the territory, it brings together all souls. no one will be able to separate the soul. thank you miss press the
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