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i believe the extremely important role in the expense of our partnership for all of we've africa and the outcomes of these for the, the game uh, rules my, uh for the development of, uh, uh, the asha africa bought an issue as far as can, is concerned. uh, we are making every effort to develop our cooperation with kenya. our 3 uh girls stay delay. uh, as i understand, according to the canyon statistics, the 40 or more with the trades uh, between that ash, uh and uh,
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kenya says that each half of $1000000000.00 that there's $500000000.00. and that these grow ink and the we are doing whatever it's, it is necessary to, uh, stimulate these. uh, pro says, actually is that a deed to corporate with kenya in every feel that these of interest to the canyon themselves, us. now we are a successful incorporating uh, in uh, uh, in faith. as i said, we are trading in uh, phones, uh, good cultural uh, products or to culture products. uh, chemicals for 2 y as was construction materials. uh,
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paid. uh and so we can evaluate the, the least as long. so what is it like being a senior russian diplomats at the un today? how much friction is there on a daily basis with western nations? how much opportunity for deeper ties with the rest of the world as promised, the country deputy on voyage to the pony officers for questions next. the cause we mentions these all to be then times we're seeing an up taking the number of conflicts around the world. would you say it's becoming more difficult to negotiate working in the us? well, because that would be an easy adult. remember to a single period of scene here and she started when it was easy to negotiate because there are many countries, they have a lot of different positions. it's our job as diploma to find a common denominator and to move forward certain things and projects to defend our
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position and to inspect the position of the others. i don't think it's the most difficult people to attend you and she's pretty. there were others not less difficult, but here when it's supposed to help maintain international peace and stability, but it has been heavily criticized on so many levels, some even questioning whether it's effective a tool or what would you, what would you always call and speak to those criticisms that the you and especially the security council, i definitely this thing that to you and still believes that very important stabilizing role to assess how it would have been otherwise, i think we would, should, we should have imagined the world without the. and they can tell you that a lot of conflicts, so which many people just don't realize that happening. for example, in africa, they are simmering. these conflicts to put it mildly so these conflicts would still go hot. and that would be a lot of people down that would realize that the and actually it was instrumental. so we keep a lot of crisis under the leads and don't let them will go out. so
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that's the most important thing. of course, there are these most conflicts. they're of usable sedation, most likely of the least right now. like you, craig, and then some people are criticizing you. m for being unable to do things. but u. m a is composed of member states and is there will they decisiveness to move forward their readiness for compromise, that defines failure or success. so for you and the policy is here and there. so there are, for example, a lot of, for the approaches that the security council is not able to adopt. so require that acquirements that demand for ceasefire in the the least. but you shouldn't forget that this was happening only because of one member states. you might of the state's looking collective efforts and collective designed to push forward the ceasefire resolution. so you really should define the excellence in the correct way. and then
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when it comes to your position representing russia, do you feel like your job is become more difficult in recent years as we, as we've seen this increase in anamosa say towards russia. do you feel that pressure a while it has become more challenging? that's sure. but if we, if i go back like 2 years ago, for example, or one of the 5 years a year ago, i think it was more challenging and more difficult. because a lot of the countries where disoriented because of the, of our special mean sort of variation in, in your grade. they had the wrong perception of what we're doing. but we managed to explain to them what the reasoning sounds with managed to, to show them that you know what to, to understand the whole complexity of this issue. in order to make your conclusions, you really need to dig deep into understand the root cause of these conflicts. and so we enjoyed much better and understanding them on global membership. why is there a membership? of course, there is
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a group of countries which is isolated themselves completely. this is the worst on the group of countries. it's absolutely clear that so any dialogue with them, any, any understanding from the past is not possible at least asia about it. so it doesn't discourage us because all the countries in the world are really looking at the restaurant as a glimmer of hope in the world. and so there are a lot of folks with russia linked with russia and a lot of attention to what we are doing and what we are proposing. and so this is what this is really encouraging for a diploma tool works in the or you mentioned earlier about how the us would use this visa of power and the security council to blow up the cease fire in gaza when it comes to, to veto issue in particular, has it proven crucial, i mean where so sometimes it works to states would be so is essential. do you think that's do something by that? yeah, sure. well that's a very, that's a definite. ringback traits most of the united nations in comparison to the legal
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of a nation. so which are the very poor history and poor records. the need to right is not only right. it's a big, big privilege and a bigger responsibility. and of course, the countries that say they enjoyed these rights and they use these privilege, very responsibly including the restaurant. there are very few occasions where family members of the security council use the veto, right? so in comparison to the number of resolution, some decisions that are being taken without deposition from the, from the permanent members of the security council. but this is an important tool to encourage the groceries to negotiate and to, to go to compromise because nobody wants to use retail this up. so to clear this is, this is a really final final decision. if nothing else helps and see if there is no other
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way to preserve national interest. so the in terms of, of fathers then lead to rights is being used. but the, there were no legal rights. as for example, if we still still are in the context of the other situations, let's not forget that the world would have been already drawn into the adventure by the us. and these are of, you know, the obtained resolution that will do you, in fact, the ink cartridge is that it was a patient in the gaza. and so that's the problem. so that didn't happen only because the restaurant opposed to it. so each, so each always and still limit an important instruments though no matter whether someone likes it or not to this the reality from the sidelines of the un security council sessions, it looks like things can become very emotionally charged. and representatives of reacting is rivals. is that really the case? so our relationships between representatives, mobile friendly, jo, well cool deal behind the scenes that we would have normal relations with our,
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with all of these are these and disagree with your call. so including with the, with our west and colleagues because we have to interrupt, they understand it and they may not be very heavy to deal with us. they may have some personal grudges against the restaurant. they may have some convictions of their own, but we have professionals, we have to interact, we have to sort of issues. so we interact different on so levels, so expert level and the level of debbie to them that the representative exponents representatives. there is not. there is no problem for these. i don't think that's their right. busy of diplomats, so you have to really go personal on, on their, in their relations with us. it's really a handful of, of diplomats that to behave in such a way. but behind the scenes, we have no problem and still to discuss some kind of situation with our way somebody buttons to shake hands with them. that's. that's a situation. and the son of the russian representatives recently planes b, i c. c for intervening and monitoring the situation and sit down. and that's
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undermining the effectiveness of the un bodies. what, what changes do you think should be implemented and what did you say that false and misleading are? saves the main huddle and the way up a security council for making a real difference. well, if you ask about the, i see, you know, that we are very critical of these organizations. there were some hoops link, so you to when it was created, it's the 20 years ago. yes. i'm not mistaken. and during the resolution on that for specifically was taken but seems to them a lot of things happens and uh, a lot of situations where the c displayed absolutely easily selective hope. road show when they failed to prosecute the war crimes by the s. breed them they so you're not, you know, they have dentist on the rock lead via that, of course changed a lot in lower relations thoughts. but as you see,
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where be puzzled. so with the decision of the i see to all of a sudden a display interest towards a towards dar 4 because the situation dates for more than 20 years ago. and we clearly see some kind of uh, a fee or for the select the tv and vice in the, in the we uh, the situation with maybe tackled my eyes to see um do we do not support the smoke for it? we think it would be uh counter productive to proceed in such a way. but we also recently sold the i, c. j, throw out almost the entire see of key of so called tara financing case. the guys rushed over the conflict and don't boston's 2040. most of the western media, i'm politicians just turned a blind eye to the ruling. what do you make of that case in particular, and that the lack of reaction that we saw in the west the well, the, the silence of the west, the following, the i said you're, you're rolling is the, is definitely really definitely. i don't think they and they really are now and
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knowing what to what to do. maybe they are calculating how to deal with this because they, they will have to try to downplay these recent developments in the eyes of g. because the courts, the courts, a sort of a finding, they posed a significant challenge for you creating on these supports us and the, and the revo a years of falls narratives. so they, uh, actually uh, in 3 claims against the rest of the bunk ukrainians, accusations revealing that the don't have scanned a little bit and some people's republic. we're not, there is still going to is ations. they also exposed the deceptive nature of the counter terrorism with the racial proclaimed by key from 2014, to cover up 80 years of the extermination of people in, in, done by us and also the i c j rejected. so such allegations as the rest of the responsibility for image 17 dining hall conducting terrorist activities in the,
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in the us. so also we need to not to forget that the courts dismissed our claims of our alleged policy off ethnic discrimination. i guess try me on time if there's any premiums in premium. so this is a, this is absolutely embarrassing scenario for, for you. great. and this back us. and we will of course, uh, highlights uh the findings of the quotes. but i don't think that the, the western uh colleagues will be very enthusiastic to discuss these these further . because it's shows the different of the lights on what they are doing. and ukraine of what the key for the student hasn't been doing for, for many, many years. and all of us, so we'll see how we all develop. but this is a very, very positive and fear development. so that's, that's happened to indicate it seems like we're made some real big changes in the world right now. one of them being the vice of the global style. so it ends with the happening many a cooling for the new headquarters of the secure as council to be moved elsewhere.
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what are your thoughts on that? well, we would not be against if we face a lot of the cases of discrimination by the cost, the country and not only us, a lot of countries complain about these. we see our delegates being denied to resist our staff here in the united states. stuff in new york also face a significant hurdles and updating visas. we come to and why it's all relative. so here to new york for 3 years already, this is very discriminatory yet. we have, we have been limited in the vice by 25 miles in traveling emails around new york and there are a lot of. busy of situations like these. and so we asked, we said that since the general secretary go, dennis secretary general has all the rights to to go for the army trash. and so we expect him to do so. but as for the headquarters for it, for us, of course,
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new york is not the ideal place because of a lease. but this would be a collective decision. and we understand that a lot of the small and medium sized countries may have double thoughts about this because they have roots here in new york. and also we shouldn't forget them off the way the united states can gain uh, getting the votes in, in the, in the theoretical discussion of this issue and the general assembly. so it should be a collective decision bound. and we don't see any, any prospects besides the decision in the car. and so in cartons situations, maybe in the future because of the there are more and more reports or approaches to the some of these things have become absolutely clear of them use use of they have the use of this data assessed. this was contract, i mean, think boss concepts, golf course concert. sorry me kind of thing since october last year. we've seen this step dicing, situation play out in gauze, and is really highlighted to lots of people, the double standards with how people to situations being tracing garza,
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i'm the situation with you. cray. the norwegian foreign minister actually called out the double standards of western narratives on ukraine in gauze of pointing out the inconsistencies in the west responses to become next. how would you, comments? well, for us, this is over the assembly. from the outset we're seeing that the west is is portraying, was special meaning to that the racial in ukraine in their own way. this was deliberate choice for them. and so this is a deliberate policy of the west. so when uh these things, uh, broke out, even in guys uh uh, in october last year. and when these are uh, started up so clean disagreement at the showing of, of residential areas scaling civilians causing an incredible and uh, absolutely, outrages number of victims including among women and children with some colleagues . all of a sudden change the june and they were not putting these in such
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a lovely unbearable sensation after this spotlight. i think that's a woke up for a lot of countries. so the global solves which are clearly sort double standards in these. and also you can't, and you can compare that to me with a company in our military, especially with the reputation that has been on the wait for for the almost 2 years . and you will see that the people in the, in the granules ages, uh, they enjoy normal life. they have all the facilities. uh, there are even live clubs. so working and we see from time to time of the, of the functionaries of the administration of the president in these nightclubs. so he showed me which is the fair degree of criticism from, from the previous you think it was that while not fighting, we do credit and people, we are fighting with the key for the team. and we tried to do it with our precision
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strikes. and if we do a lot for the faulty excellence of, of the or if you bring in the air defense that would have been left so can no casualties among amongst civilians in gaza. the sedation is totally different. you'll see that there are deliberate showings, deliberate, a destruction of a city to an infrastructure. there's hate speech. there is everything that's uh, there is no, there is no place for that's in union ukraine allowing me once we campaign. and also we can, you know, that's a several 1000. and so if you bring in the refugees to either i or those were settled after the beginning of our special notes or reparation decided to come back . and this is also a good indication of the difference between the 2 is 3 companies. so the west looks miserable in this situation, frankly because so they have to defend these through the us has to do it at any price. the others follow suit. and we, you discover these uh, double standards all the time of these, the position of ours resonates
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a lot in the years of our departments from the global style sounds is it makes the western countries i'm uncomfortable. i can feel is i'm coming back to the middle east, the us to be here to have carried out several rounds and foaming strikes on who's the rebel top sites and yemen and n. however, the medicines have been firing facts. they say they will continue targeting congress ships links to is while in the red sea, well do assessments of the west and foaming campaign, which was no saxons of close by the un security council. well aware, absolutely clear. the lowest ease, most of the security council that this isn't aggression against against the middle of when it goes to how many people there can be no justification for the sound. there is absolutely no way and no, no. so it makes no sense to, to try to find some kind of reference into that. so a lot of these, this is a direction in the same way the us on. so you case strikes against recent strikes.
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i go see a on the rock is also an act of other action and we will absolutely uh square about these in the, in the, in the security council moment. so whether they like it or not. we also said that the root cause of all this escalation and that the u. s. is unfortunately in aging, even worse, the root cause of the situation goes up. so we needs, of course, to deploy all low efforts to stop the fighting, to impose the human you're there in the media of ceasefire, which isn't the, which is absolutely indispensable for so many to around the agents just working there. these thoughts are really stop the spiral as their low for wireless in the, in the middle east. i'm no other extra snow of the punitive and voluntary extra is that you the trying to frame. there's some kind of response to turn to the response to what's to the legal presence in the, in the many countries of the me, the least this, this is ridiculous. so i understand, of course,
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who is to blame for a lease. and we have the last day of our american colleagues when we make our statements and the security council, and we call the state of this page. a one big story for us this week is how sweet is prosecute is officially ended. the node stream bloss investigation. they said that no swedish citizens were involved anything beyond matches outside that coast jurisdiction. so basically they've lost the hands of the case. i'd like to us to your reaction to that and ask whether you expect anything different from denmark and gemini as well. that was predictable. because from the outset, so way, absolutely clear about the fact that all these national investigations conducted by germany, sweden and denmark of the methods and discovering those with behind these blast. but rather to misleads the international community and to, to, to shields those 4 are really responsible for these, from their responsibility. and we all know who's been trying these last,
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it was more than that. and then a smoking gun in this case. and it's for absolutely obvious, we have to deep monday at leaking in the absolutely other direction. and because of these investigation, we were not able to to pass a resolution in the security council demanding international investigation the, the use of the united nations. but the pretext of the we'd show west some countries to didn't support as was exactly the ongoing investigations in these 3 countries. now there are investigations only in 2 countries and the way the, the swedes go 3 those their investigations and it shows that it is absolutely shallow and empty process. and so we shouldn't expect any results. so we will definitely come back to these issue. ready the security council and elsewhere because a lot of countries are asking questions, what's, what's not all the plan with the north seem investigation and we feel that there is
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no real investigation there is only attempt to, to, to, to shield a to shield the called the culpable sites, so we will not let it go and so that we will continue our efforts to bring those behind the less to, to be accountability. i'm going to go to canada now the russian embassy and kind of the state to that. it was the canadian prime minister, just intruder who, himself, personally invited them to assess veterans to the controversial parliament session last year. that's why he was given a standing ovation. canadian media has published reports have been being invited to an event with the ukrainian president on the same day that's despite true those claim he had no forewarning of any invitation class. so your reaction to that well, this is shameful. this is shameful. to watch little how the, the canadian establishment tries to, to conceal and to deny the over this thing. there was thing is that there are a lot of the form and these is, and their descendants for in power in canada for being respective don't praised for
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they are all in the, in the 2nd world war despite the defect. so that they way collaborators sofa on easy to send that they are responsible for cases of method through us. it is. so the scandal that's happened in the canadian parliament. so i think chris has just straight show cuz the world and not only russian was absolutely outraged by the situation, but a lot of countries on the world and that the push to canadian authorities have to do at least something to, to answer to the question. so that's where i'm coming from them for the for to, to them from all the corners of the world. but of course they don't have any, any real desire to change the situation that we did. it was an easy sunday of the sound and in canada, again i, i tell you that a lot of them are in power. a lot of them are boosting. they are coming action to
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the, to the actors of that. so calibrated, so we'd z within the disease during the 2nd world war. so we have been pretty simple, nothing changes. it's just to maneuvering. so he did to political maneuvering to save the face and to save the reputation, but it doesn't change. uh, the look for a story in the course stories, of course, that means is a very much a comfortable unity in canada. and only only such gifts that happened in the parliament. me could canadian establishment to, to react to these. otherwise they are quite comfortable with this. thank you so much for your honest as i really appreciate your time. i have just one final question for you. fine. may. russian diplomacy is taken like conic roland geo. politics for centuries and head of the annual russian diplomat stay late for this month. what's your assessments of most goes foreign policy influence as it stands right now and how do you think it will go down in history?
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well, there actually is a great power. i think everybody understands this, despite their attempts to diminish ability to our old uh, it doesn't play out. everybody understands that's russia has been pleading and will be bleeding and important important spots in the, in world politics. i think we have the, we have diplomacy with you on the face. we have very thoughtful. we are very sensitive to the patients of the other. so we are very open for justice and we do not let's injustice help them. so i think that there are a lot of hoops bins, uh, with russia now in the world. and i muscle to show that my colleagues and myself, we will not deceive them. and dresser will continue to play the active role. that is not very, very much required by the majority of, of, of the world. so the majority of the countries of the world. and so we are facing
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interesting times sound it will be even more interesting, i think, to work as of people them, us and then the years to come. so i'm looking forward to this friends. i want to congratulate to use these opportunities to congratulate all my colleagues that's work in the interaction diplomatic service and to wish them all the best we need to continue. everybody is really supporting and looking at us. we use it with respect to with make expect stations the the march, the 112011. the largest us, great ever recorded in japan is were interested. a 14 me to to nami, devastates to folk ashima each and you have pallets on the
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