to thank you so much, professor west for coming back on going on the ground. it's been a long time ago daily. and now you're running for president before i get to the present president's backing of genocide in gaza for american view. as of this, what states will you be on the ballot for on the 5th of november this yeah. oh shooting for all 50. i should be on a good 15 by march 30 in the summer, and by november 1 we're shooting for 50 my but very much so we can really begin in an intense way until just a week or 2 ago because it in the states the do awfully is so deeply colonized dominated by big money, make it difficult for independent candidate. so you'd begin the process of getting, getting access to the ballots until february 1 in most states, and saw that. that's why we already got the last and we got oregon brass, we have

a number already, but we're on the move for good 15 by the i just march and then 30 by june and then 50 by november. well, let's just go to the genocide then before more on your campaign, you know, fan of don't know, but you could stop by means the backing of genocide, stop the u. s. u k, back bombing of syria. rog, him and if you a president, clearly of course trump says he would stop, it is a matter of ours. um, would you, how would you do that and what is to be in your um your reaction to president biden . after all you are is a bolger of his in a way, last time around. i have always been a very, very strong forwarding to me in critical by that tried to be part of the fascist coalition. thinking that i'm going to speak to the issues of wealth inequality in mass incarceration to cut back on militarism, but i was wrong. and that's why i'm really convinced that he's no major

alternative to the neo fascist option of trump. that by themself is not just in the neighborhood of joe's side of ethnic cleansing. it's quarter of a part time like regina. but he also is so deeply, deeply tied to a kind of a mirage. as mirage is thinking that he's actually going to be pro, labor only shows up for a few seconds and then pulls back and shuts down the railway workers in this straight. and the labor movement too often steal up for him. same as to in the black community brings in some black faces in i places and yes, deal reinforces policies that do in black for one working people. and so i, i do but by himself as uh, not only part of the problem, but no serious opposition to the escalating fascism in the united states. i mean,

what changed it is, it does have changed since the last time i spoke to you on going underground. because uh for you, the beginning me was donald trump. now we're talking about a president. i mean, it's pretty rare that even though even international bodies like the world court can cost a verdict like possible genocide on a president. this is worse than anything trump could do. the mass, most of you know, many women. and i mean, i think we need to have american lawyers, there was the south african lawyers and the others to bring justice to bear on the vicious judges genocidal attack. so precious palestinian brothers and sisters up. but the shift i think that took place for me was that i was under the impression that he actually was going to do something about the issues of poverty. and even when he got powered child poverty in half the a very important executive order and congressional legislation. but it expired in

child poverty rate doubled again. you see, i come out of the dream legacy was i'm gonna have alicia's come depaula. but when it comes with poverty on a ball is probably more ball as homeless this i want to support 3 union move is $27.00 minimum weight. i want to make sure that wall street is not just wall again . i'm very much for workers control. i want, i want to see workers voice shaping the destiny of the nation. therefore, i'm calling from the nationalization of some of the major major monopoly in the beginning with the few boston and few on illuminated given the ecological crisis. but i want to put it on the national and civic oversight to make sure that they're not contributing to the session with profits in calling in the course in future the plan. so that is the data, not just a progressive, but it's, it's a uh, a deeply, deeply, revolutionary vision and platform of policy. and i think that's what we need because we're living in the moment of multiple catastrophes. ecological pos,

possible nuclear deeply economic and political united states, but also spiritual and more, you know, we've got escalating levels of hatred and spinning out of control. we've got an organized 3 that's on steroids. who there's some very deep moral and spiritual issues that need to be talked about and, and, and in addition to the structural institution what, what to, i'm sure you expected it. what are the kinds of uh, reactions, are you receiving from the pro biden establishment there once? bite into when another time as president, despite, as i said, this international court ruling that well could mean he's a co conspirator in genocide. that's what i mean it's, it's fascinating not by the 1st 3 weeks when i announced in june i became the major threat to american democracy in the enable of american fashions. i said to

myself, i wish i had the kind of power what would be worth for work people in, in that enabling power in the mighty way, not just here, but around the world. i'm committed to those rest and all the rest of that be as an apple middle east, that agent in latin america. but all it meant was that i was calling into question their version of t. now you remember margaret? that's tina. there is no alternative. you must fit and accommodate yourself, become well adjusted to injustice, and those and no, no, not at all. there is an alternative. and it's in my campaigns, nothing but a moment in the movement. this band for to keep in mind you see change, i'm talking about when that come about when president won't come about with disability. we're talking about social move most as on the way the fundamental transformation, the economy, nation state. and of course, i want to hit the american empire in order to dismantle the empire. we don't need a 100 military units around the world. we don't need special operations. and

a 130 countries, the american empire is in the k. we meet the dismantled in part of the 9 states needs to be one nation among nations, a decent nation among other nations. i'm an anti imperialist candidate. well, if we put aside your big differences with trump, who is clearly the favorite to be the president of the next president, the united states. isn't that similar to what donald trump is saying when he talks about the waste of money on nato? when he talks about the waste of american expenditure on uh, was in western europe. we've quite a slightly about the middle east because clearly has big donors from, well, it's not do quite we no worries. there is on israel. easiest with love for the right wing been been biting is in terms of moving the capital of jerusalem. defer and julia is really a lead district, deferring to the, the, the, the, the design as lobbies at home. no trouble way. i've just found that actually

professor, actually you can say trump doing the same thing is biting is as regards the ongoing one of the last month. oh, actually now does. he didn't start any was remember a try. i'm happy assassinated people. he killed people and he type near part averaging. he incurs nathan, yahoo g is the one, is talking about not just shifting the capital, but making sure that israel became even more and more acceptable with the various connection with egypt in that say, in a moment, worried about the vicious suffering. it fell. experience under apartheid region, so that in that sense, he doesn't have an integral, is bone in his body. he's an installation of this was very different. so he, with i, i do view nato as an extension of american. a. german is essentially the american imperial foreign policy, and therefore, my critique of nato comes from an anti imperialist point of view. here's critique of nature. we spend too much money,

easier for you and don't deserve it. they need to secure it themselves and we will pull back, but given wait to hear by them and at the end of the world, not through the ecology actually. but given that is ran a cabinet minister as an adult about using his rarely nuclear weapons. and of course, we've never seen such tensions and has their new gate engines that drain rusher and nato. isn't the time then for a grand coalition against the bible and all that he represents. as regards the war and the military industrial complex or what it says on what kind of coalition is talking about. so here it is to say that you have to be tied to a certain consistency it costs and see in terms of the truth and condition is truth to allow, so to speak. so for example, on the one hand, i mean you got, you got it wrong. now iran has their critique of bud. it's, it's, it's, at times it's of very similar to mine, but i have a critique of a wrong. i'm not a supporter of milwaukee or deluxe. i supported women, live street,

a low. i support those who are resisting against the form of domination with them. same is true with rush. rush itself was provoked by the expansion of nato. it led toward what is going on ukraine, but i have my own critique, the rushing system and putting himself in terms of structure, the domination in the silent thing of this isn't a voices and so forth. so they are the moral consistency alone. we have a political solidarity so that the coalition of that i'm top not just the function of re out politic, but it's also a commitment to truth commitment to just as we're ever whatever context we talked about. let me put this in here, isn't there off of aspiration. i mean tucker calls and on fox news used to say all sorts of strange things about immigrant. he doesn't have an enzyme fairly bone and well, even. but it hasn't the change on people changing and becoming more. you just see

it is isolationism, right? wing eyes laser right when popular is the right wing father. he's got a critique of the beach. and of course i have my critique of the late but his critique to release times a month and word about math and customer. ready and at home doesn't say among them word about anti poverty program, doesn't say that mumbling word about white supremacy. and he was so pro white supremacists and continues to be in a variety of different ways at home. but as an end, as a problem, this will be guess various forms to be leaks. it makes him look and appear as if he critique solidify what is actually an imperial critique of empire. okay. who is like your running her president. it is now the time, and would you have to try and you like and get this affordable? those people we will remember what was, what, what, what was it malcolm, michael says supported the right wing senators view on the defensive extreme is now paying advice at yeah, no, no, i have another train deleted the other. if we're going to have person to support me,

i'm going to be taking my stands based on how i understand. we're not a guard variety politician in that regard. i'm not going to sacrifice my commitment to choose and justice anywhere just in order to we in any way. now that's best, not how i yeah, that's not elaborate sheet provides what i, what i do have for the rest of the company. you that more from the 2024 us independent presidential candidate after this break the

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of the welcome back to going on the right. and i'm still here with professor going out west 2024 us independent presidential candidate. you know, professor we were talking about one about the fact that as you designate the right wing the populace to isolate who just like dr. costs and are increasingly critical of u. s. foreign policy over here in the middle east. the big the story as well as gaza is that the iran con, the who used to run focused on democratically elected leader. he made some comments about his own withdrawal being conducted at the hands of the us conspirators and the federal lines. uh, a lot of people in eurasia, in the middle east and africa and latin america are about to the us is sponsorship for democracy is at schools in the state department. what would you do as president, when it comes to all these different elements of the us administer us state that

acts in all parts of the global south to as they see it destroy any idea of democracy? or, you know, one of the thing you have to do as president is use the bully pulpit to educate american citizens, american citizens need to know the fundamental role of the c i a fundamental role of us material foreign policy that over through democratic region, we could talk about why them all that we've talked about iraq, we could talk about resistance. we started, but dominican republic can talk barbara needed to talk about panama. we need to be, they need to see the world through the lens of so many of our brothers and sisters in the so called global. so you see, so often there's not just a willful ignorance, but there is a, a refusal to a knowledge to prove about the ways in which the united states has been a anti democratic force around the world been pro marked it always been obsessed

with profit always been obsessed with the international monetary fund in the world bank, extracting resources as well as profit. but it has never ever been pro democratic in terms of empowering the poor and worky peoples in africa and latin american ages . so there's a pedagogy for a function here. so people that understand my vision, because my vision is one that looked at the world through the lands, oh, poor and working people here and around the world. and therefore the policy that i would promote would be contrary to the international monetary. so contrary to the world bank, i own empower poor and worky people that will and just create african board was the and age and board was the 11 american boys while the which assembly partners with, with the international capital to can 10 year to subordinate and dominate their own workers and their own for people. i mean, trump, again coming from

a very different philosophy. your philosophy is the right word to describe, but where he's coming from at all, has similar views about the super natural structure. the certainly as big news about the re, i ca, i mean, i don't know is more than come with the weather mind about the f b. i who knows. he doesn't like control traffic, been talking about using us forces to inmate mexico. that is as imperialist and they can be, we had an $1840.00 stage more. they cocker. mexico took 50 percent of all and mexico i grew up in california. used to be mexico, texas used to be mexico. arizona used mexico with the u as in basically mexico and a letter that dropped now using the same language that's 19th century imperial language in that regard. so again, i don't see where the, there's any similarity to myself and in trump, in that sense, even though it is different than the neo live is dropped,

presents is neil fascism is a, is an alternative to the neo liberalism of, of, of, by the flip side. of neo liberalism is what militaristic, the gaza militaristic attacks of the human militaristic, latin american past africa. at this very moment. well, neo liberalism can go with neo colonialism and military keynesian is, i mean, in fantasy as far as i understand of jumbled and his national security adviser was on this row. and it was trump who was offering a little of runs to venezuela. if uh, if, if uh, what you're going to do is to take the funding from the war machine and the war state and he has it on. that's education on housing, on free health care for ordinary americans. what are you going to do to the leads that have subjugated most of the people in the united states for so don't again, i have to say it, you know, trump's, it organization was talking about american cottage. there's something very similar

to your view about what is being done to the pool of working classes with united states over decades. but what will you do with dealing with that you're going to forgive it in a con is would be late in the black. it was and the brown, it was been a full big be blue white supremacists, very, very different lans to which is viewing the world when he talks about sap. that's all but the plan, the, the, the can be gladly impart. yes, the right about it. but i will not budge one inch when it comes to, but i position it critiques. well, stay on the line and steal the line for your campaign. it is a very, the general like the low lies, whether you do get it and then that is still a line of full life and he got his own life. i may, it's not some would say beethoven a bit of beethoven in that but, but, but are you going to forgive these relates then do they deserve when you have those, they have to be brought to justice. be brought to justice. i'm talking about wall street really to me,

how many wall street games went to jail and inside of the trading market, manipulation, predatory lending and fraudulent activity is not one. and the bottom right now, one went to jail. i had thousands and thousands of my friends and partners coming out of a truck besides the black side, sacramento that it, you know, the part that went to jail. so we just don't mind just not revenge them. and you know, i don't, i don't believe in vicious talk about revenge. i just want just may again, trump, this is obsessed with resent. you don't hear a lot of talk about justice and trump. it all, you know, the pressure is a, against any president trying to bring in free healthcare given that some our financial power of that low be. why do you think his that the, they continue to have such a power has the, or even the by the ministration admits the price of co pays and all of his private health insurance in milwaukee continues. and the us taxpayer has to pay ever more for it so it can end up in the company's profit sheets. we just don't have enough

power, you know, organized money as low as possible at the moment and organize people, which means people are not as well organized that we ought to be. but the only thing that we end up changing in a way that i would like to change is, uh, is, is organize people, both on the streets going to jail. creating john, just civic disobedience. of the, the people who are the other people still supporting the bible version of democracy by the democrats and they cowards. what is the role of cowards in your system as well? i mean, that's a wonderful question because i'd rather be of course, in the account myself, but the role of cowards of those who are willing to defer the powers that be for some kind of money or status title and cowardly. and this would cause across color

cuts across gender, sexual orientation, and nation. it's a human thing, and it has to do with those who have given up on any rage, those will sell to sold as so in relation to any vision that's changing the world, the name of port and work, and people, and it's highly probation. how i mean, this is why you baked with just the days because it is reward. that's why you see so many black faces in high places or so less sold and want to act as they have. their very existence is a litmus tests, a black progress, a human progress, when is crushing, poor people is crushing, working people. and yet in the name of, i agree with that the ink to generate any of the bureaucratic categories that are out there that don't want to come to terms with the issues of class domination or imperial domination. don't want to come to terms with the light and predict when to port working people. yeah, jenny, ellen was in congress on answering questions. it was all the people of color that

were asking or easy obsequious questions. and it was the white republicans and whereas can put new ones, anyone could see that or is that a pro we want partly questions from anybody and every body. i'm so craddick in that sense the people still granted that low across the board. and obviously democracy is nothing without a free press. do you have a free press now in the united states? well, we got a cowardly press. we've got to press the depth is not willing to raise his voice directed to actually wrestle with some of the deeper questions that have to do with the future of america. there was a bipartisanship in, in, in the us press of the militarism expansion of the military budget. no serious bouquets of wall street, no stairs could take some corporate greed and silicon valley. you get that both democratic party, republican party, both fox news and in as nbc,

and they all had trump. any a trump is more popular than ever. yeah. that's true. that's true. as the as president. uh, would you immediately end this extradition from torture of julian? i sign she who kind of exemplifies of repress. it was the 1st day of the party julia. this also followed me me a bu, jamal. uh, i would, i would like to ask chavez, she could come home if she wanted to get all of those will be, i'm had been a fairly incarcerated owing to their political views. and i'm thoroughly convinced of my dear brother do. and the son has been unduly un unjustly treated owing to what exposing the crimes of the american empire. that's all brother julie indeed. and it's sad to see that the journalistic establishment can't say

a mom and word about their fellow journals. it just shows the level of the 5 percent as you know, brother randy credit going others. i've been talking about this with great trojan paul and i stand with what happens to politicians in the united states who advocate for free health care housing education. they look like they're coming anywhere near power, as they say that the things like nato should be dismantled and the money should be spent not on killing machines, but on american progress, character, assassination, literal, assassination, marginalization. this is a tax to misconstrue, misunderstand, but even given that intense bomb bar, the great tradition to, to tell in adjust the seeking steel goes on not bread. that's the good news. that's the good news. it can never be completely snapped out. never be thoroughly

suffocated. even if they kill the body, the spirit in new body build on that spirit. that is the good news. so just to encapsulated your campaign and won't mocks, you at different ed robert kennedy to donald trump to genocide. joe, is these gold uh to encapsulate what is the platform a blood full of what is, was put in poor and working people at the center here and around the world at this ma'am. and the empire on the sheet, democratic possibilities and also connect them to struggle to justice, the level of beauty, those musicians and the artists will play a fundamental role as we enact the kind of spiritual awakening and political renaissance needed to introduce america to the best of itself that's martin king as edward's a rabbi, as well as dorothy day. that's curtis mayfield and john coltrane. professor going

out west. thank you and that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to the surviving the killing and god's in jerusalem will be back on monday, focusing on another us 2024 presidential candidate donald trump's. we can do a full, i'm a senior official who argues in a new book, and then trump is the swamp. he declares he wants to drain until then. keep in touch via all social media. if it's not offensive, you'll country now to a general feeling undergoing tv on normal don't come to what you and old episodes. i'm going on the grand see monday, the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also a pursuit. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washington press for so the funder line

likes to say, we have the tools. well, we just start with stability and business deals to help me living on that. we have very close propaganda. you know, price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask the better. the answer is, will be the in 1492 this evening, christopher columbus rates the bahamas, and discover the new world for europe. the wealth of america and its fast territories. cosby envy of the europeans, especially the spaniards and the portuguese. they sought, after taking over these lands. however, there lived indigenous peoples with a high culture and their own nation who was there to barbaric colonization of

america, which went down in history under the name of can do stuff, lasted for more than 100 years, 101521 care design, cortez is done with doors captured and destroyed the capital of the aztec empire, daniels practically massacring the local population. following them, francisco pizarro is gone. keeps the doors destroyed the inc. empire. as a result of spanish aggression, the ancient maya civilization collapse, suppressing the resistance of the indians. the invaders carried out mass executions . the horrendous genocide was aggravated by the diseases that the europeans had brought to america. the number of the indigenous population decreased 16 times from 25. so one and a half 1000000 people from keystone became one of the largest demographic disaster fees of mankind and remains an indelible bloody stain in the history of the

european colonial empires. the 6 year old palestinian gal who story became viral loved cuz she wasn't missing what her family's call was shocked in. find gone by the idea. it's sanchez along with a reg present admission, sent to rescue her. the humanitarian group, close the kennings deliberately as the as waiting military pass to innovate the southern golf in the city of la, fall over a 1000000 display civilians, a sheltering we have some fire. reconstructing opinions on the 28000 people among them. 12150 children, let's say that the loading and how the in.