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shut the service savvy and says this is exactly why we need to arm all of it is read these and he will do his best to work more on the government so they can arm all of this really, companies, right? local journalists live in jerusalem. i mean, i joining us here analogy international. thank you for cuz most populous nation and largest economy and nigeria, currently in an alarming state, is due to a rapid inflation rising food insecurity. it's all according to the national bureau of statistics, the niger and government, and the us instead, the nation is facing a 100 crisis with 26 and a half 1000000 people estimated to be at risk of hunger. this year, a 9000000 kids in danger of malnutrition. the economy has been racked by rising food and security as well as the removal of fuel subsidies and that the valuation of the national currency versus the american dollar. nigeria is agricultural northeast, the countries bred boss good has been
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a main positive tara groups. and then with the situation the united nations has expressed its concerns. the people have been forced to adopt the negative coping mechanism, such as survival, sex in child, able to stay alive over the past year. dozens of farmers have lost their lives, and others have been abducted or injured while eking out leaving outside the security to perimeters of boar and those guys and towns due to limited farming lands, and few or no livelihood options. so anyways, our names paid in full crises across africa, and then as we culture a markets such as this one is witnessing down to us for the information has increased dramatically in the last one yet, due to insecurity, especially in the south region. i wouldn't do the cost of transportation to move the goods from the farm to the market has increased dramatically with force to sell at a very high price. so we can make a profit to which we used to feed all families. people don't have money,
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not many can installed the price of goods. now, due to the hikes, we sell goods in smaller quantities. now then we used to be for, i'm going to do going to go walk out. we're not making sales like we're used to food items are very expensive. now we come here and spend a day toilet under the sun and end up going home with them. nothing is your buy product worth 109. sure. in ira today, tomorrow it will have increase to 500 and i are, we're not even talking about shoes to wear or clothes or jewelry, but just the basics and necessities of life like food. we can't afford them anymore . now should be a kind of thing. for us to be able to, for them to quite tell the issue of this organization. one of those, you know, goal without for security. because those, you know about the need def, i must indeed release to so life now taking over the line a thought of will short shortly we short from the, the a mutual fund of produce africa is facing speed. yes, for the pricing is across the saw health and savannah region,
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which is continually aggravated by a security pool pond. it says, adverse weather conditions, lack of agriculture, a commercialization, an owner business. taking a told on the people that most families have reduced the food intake from 3 square may is to 2 or even one. yes, there seem to be no end in sight before before. previously, food was indispensable, but it is now expensive. according to the news, the market holders heard is that some us no longer visit the times as much as they did because of bandits. secondly, the rise in full prizes has result that another increase in transportation costs as a result, transporting food from times to seats has, has become expensive before we had better process to food. but now even the ball over ice is very costly. if you look at the costs of the for with these vents, because people with almost who live, bring the do boost through the market,
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you have to live class faulty down. so before you do, i pay like you do not was what's causing you saw these policies, you tell them on the floor and the ones that even the one time we eat in a day now is a struggle. we are only managing ourselves, our children will come back from school and there won't be food for them to eat. we can't buy anything. our husbands will give us 1000 to narrow, not com by anything tangible. there is hunger in the country. so i, that's it. for now here, and i'll change them out, so i appreciate you joining us here. you'll have program returning it about 24 minutes as the the
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hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle, the destruction of gods and its people continue unabated. the by the administration shows no meaningful interest in stopping israel's genocidal assault. at the same time, there is much talk of a ceasefire. in this one sided conflict. it would seem, it is just that just talk the cross talking palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal in media analyst in rest and we have michael maloof is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst and, and the talk to you we crossed to steve, so he needs he is an award winning journalist and chief editor of mid east. this course. alright gentlemen, calls talk roles and effect. that means he can jump anytime you want and always appreciate it. let me go to you 1st here. let me just ask you
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a very basic question. since the united states is an election cycle, very simple question. i remind everyone the title of this program is guys the death camp. so in light of the title of this program, lionel has joe biden put genocide on the ballot. absolutely not. and the reason why is that, sadly, to say peter, most americans, most american voters do not understand this conflict. this war is har as genocide. when i ask any of my friends conservative liberal, it doesn't matter. this is what they say. israel has the right to defend itself, all thinking and all discussion stops. and if you follow up with, but does israel as it is being suggested, have the right to punish kaiser to eliminate guys, to eliminate palestinians, to, to starve them, to goes back circular to they have the right to defend themselves. very quickly. on
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september, the 11th in 2001 we said in this country, america has the right to defend itself against terrorism. and by the way, there's no concept, no group to a, from real, to vague too hard to pinpoint for purposes of, of, of, of sanctioning war. we went to a rock in afghanistan to get them back, even though we never figured out what they did. so great, so just the conclusion, this will not ever hit the conscience of american voters because they still think it, there's some kind of a vague and legitimate response. well, maybe with the exception of arab and muslim americans in places like michigan in pennsylvania, a good for right there, michael. let me know to you. after a 130 days, what, what is israel accomplished and all of this except for destroy hospital schools, universities kill a lot of women and children. what are they accomplished too? well, one thing they have accomplished is that they have gained the universal dis dislike
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by the world uh for what they were for what they're doing. perfect training on the innocent women children, not one point. 1000000 children are not members of hom, us. besides that, almost as a resistance group, it's not a terrorist group. and, and, and we're seeing over and over again. and if it weren't for the actions that israel has done to the palestinians over the course of years and years and years. we wouldn't be where we are right now and, and, and the people don't understand that they don't understand history. and i thought it was very intriguing when we saw the, the interview with tuck, tucker, carlson. and, and lot of important people have no concept of history period. they don't know what, why were there what we're doing and, and, and we're seeing the same thing here. they don't understand what led up to this. it
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just didn't happen overnight. and i think that people in the americans especially need to understand that. but we're there so embroiled now in their own issues and problems. we've got the ukraine issue that we've got to deal with. people are going crazy here trying to figure out even making the living these days. given a biden's manufacturer of inflation and an economic downturn and world crises. and it's, it's pathetic. i mean, normally the administration's come in to make life better. this guy hasn't made it much, much worse. well, all front. yeah. it's the foreign and domestic and foreign. it's steven it's, it's interesting what we have heard from lionel and michael already. i don't disagree with the interpretation of how events are understood in the west, particularly the united states. but history is well known in your part of the world, okay. and may understand where this came about,
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why it's happening and who is protecting it. and that is, of course, the united states and it's close allies. they are just as comfortable as anyone and tell a b steven. in this process though, we almost started on 75 years ago stuck new uh 75 years ago and was the support of the british for design is thought you were talking about zines not above the jewish . there's a big difference. so people, the decisions have no problem with the jewish. they've been living together for hundreds and thousands of years. the problem designs ideology as supported by the united kingdom and the united states. they've been funding or supporting the massacres and the, and the killing was about us to me and people and what's happened. october 7 is a reflection, a react of the 75 years of oppression that the palestinian people has been going through. at this time. we are see the western world and let's see the list of
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people the normal people have broken up. and we find that we've seen the protest in london mass of process in london and so forth. a spot, a spike in new york city, were seen in new york city jewish, and the muslim father springs together side by side. we are seen in brooks. so we're seeing in spain on over. we're starting seeing more countries as standing up in the face of imperialism. so the world today is flip like how in 2000 and street that the american, the deep stay, e, fax, the got a, the, a white house scan, just the light to the world on means. the media was a smoke to read say this is a weapon of mass destruction does go in until the 3000000 people and destroy a civilization the people on the dock night. so they, there's the internet. there's the social media. there's freelance journalist on over and also there is a lot of channels who are not screwed imperialism and did you want to buy? and i mean, do you need that? like, are the, is one of them so you can other tv channels. so the world today is start the,
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it's not up to that, but the starting to wake up, the people in the united states and in europe do not one tour. the only people suffering from this. what is the opinion and the american people in the american taxpayer that when the, by the administration of the congress faith night with 95, the but stephen is i pointed out, as i asked you, a question that makes the american people just as comfortable visa or their leaders making decisions. i don't want the stench of a genocide do. a able to escape people, they can't, you can't say. and i've been saying this for weeks now. lionel has been with me every step of the way. you can't say you didn't know you can't say that anymore line or jump in. i saw you want to jump in. a couple of things here. i always ask my friends, that's because you must understand. i always try to, lord this a and peter, i've been doing this thing professionally term to talk radio for over 35 years and i am an expert in ignorance. i mean, that's by, i'm an expert, i have a ph,
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d in it. and the thing that i always ask you, what is, what if you were to what if you were to imagine what if you were to change the name of the word, instead of israel, call it friends, the different story completely. we can't do that. the 2nd irony is that we talk about borders and we talked about is real big, basically maintaining its borders. if you're okay, that's fine in my country right now. if we don't have any border taught, in fact, you're on the board and you have people coming in from everywhere. so we, we have this schedule for an attitude. there's another thing i want to ask you gentlemen, how can you have a ceasefire when only 1511 size firing? what does this even mean? and the next question, very quickly, cuz i'm a lawyer. there's something called proportionality. we have in our country the right to defend yourself, but you must be proportion. you could only be w for 2 w 4. we had the, the i, c j basically say in an indictment. this is pick what, whatever scaling count you want. how is it that these very simple facts are in,
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are being ignored, not by the, the, the, the laughter, those people who are a sensible bite and supporters who will not be by the way, on the ticket, but by conservatives or others who are, who are supposedly against buying for, for war, and you have now left the so to speak for now clamoring for more war. i mean, it was a line or what this is the, this is the poverty of the situation. i'll go to michael, this is the issue of conscience. this is what does it, it's not left, right. it's not, that's nonsense. these people spin it that way, but it's nonsense. it's about conscience. i mean, i mean i, i, how do you feel with yourself knowing that this was happening, michael as well it's, it's going to get worse. yep. unfortunately. uh, we have, we have a country that chooses to ignore facts as minor points out. they, they don't, they don't want to know the facts. they have their ideological bent,
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and that's the direction they're going. that's why people like victoria new and it's so dangerous that the nia collins are so dangerous. they're the ones who have gotten this into this calamity, not only here, but in a rock in the afghanistan, even in the vietnam. i mean it, it goes on and on. and they are in both political parties. in spite of our efforts to try to start a 3rd one, they don't want to listen and they're going to be, they're going to be uh, uh, uh, the victims of their own demise because they brought it on themselves. and this is where it's going. the united states is very comfortable, we could stop this crap tomorrow, and if we were to absolutely cut it off and happily, hopefully, that can happen in the house. but i doubt that they're going to be able to hold on eventually they'll cave. but what do we gain? nothing? absolutely nothing. meantime is lot of points that are old porters wide open and
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we've got m s m s 13. we've actually got the cartels in control. so we have our own problems and the people along the border really understand that problem. and the, and people in the blue states in the cities are beginning to understand that more and more. yeah, which really interesting, you know, michael, before we go to the break here, i'm glad you brought up these other issues because this shows us time and again that these are a lead to issues needs that are in things that are important to leads not to anyone else, i mean, it is very interesting of that mirrors around the world. it wouldn't be a look at these. it leaks in the middle east, but it still won't really speak up. i mean, it's very shameful, but they have their relief agenda align with with their western masters. ok. but everyone is saying that no one can hide from this, but to be particularly since you can watch it on live television. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break,
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okay, let's go back to steven steven, is my viewers though. i by training, i'm a historian and academic historian, and i'm acutely aware of the historical facts when i see monuments, when i traveled the different cities, i'm very happy that i understand the historical context and why people remember these people, these individuals in history. but we're in a historical moment right now, and we are all witnesses to history. we're all witnesses to what's happening or what's happening now and could potentially happen to the city of rafa. with 1100000 more people, more than 1100000 people crowded and being pushed into the sea or, and potentially across the board or we're all watching this happening. okay? and that's what makes this a very historical moment. because if you look at the, they, the, the other times that israel mo, most of the grass are mostly it mowed the lawn. there wasn't as much coverage of
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that. okay. and now there is so much coverage of it. it just turns your stomach that you were actually witnessing that this is real, steven. uh, that's uh the, what's happening today is heartbreaking. and as you said, the world is watching and the world cannot do anything about it. like the normal people it can, i don't. uh, the only way you to find this at the sub, this is the resistance because the united states is the only country that has influence on a mad person called bills. you mean nothing you know is doing a m, i is the domestic or, and the so but use of the people that the men women and children of the south africa. 6 tried their best other countries right there, but us and politically, the only way is resistance because or this, the solution can be finished today as your guest said in the 2nd, if, if the, by the administration and then other states, of course,
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benjamin anything else on the table and do the 2 state solution and then the board or the mac is 67. uh the brought us to him. good. the good of and these will get shut off on his back because he is, will get the joint on his back. and everyone live in peace, you'll won't be anymore. you'll won't be in detention. but because benjamin netanyahu today, he wants to just want to go as long as if there's because he afraid he is afraid of going to prison because of the disruption files. so he doesn't care about the millions of civilians. he doesn't care about the med. so what you can put endangered, the whole region and the economy of the region and the economy of the world. but steve, and he doesn't even care about the captives being held in the gaza strip by him. us . that's pretty obvious as well. it's obvious when they, when what 3 of their own soldiers were tried to surrender speaking hebrew, yelling, and he broke. they were shot down. it shows the mentality of not just the government, but as a society, i'm afraid your line. oh,
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i don't know how many i've lost count blinking going to the middle east. i don't know. this is like a netflix series. they just can't be, you know, be canceled. okay. and it's just boring. okay. um, i think it's a complete fraud. i think it's a complete act. so you know, these, these, like he gets in front of a podium and says how much he cares about children. well, how can someone say that when we've seen all what we have seen and continued to see, i think it's an act. i think it's a fraud line on please ask me a simple question for you. i want to scream and always think at the end of our discussion of the, you know, know, we need more time. i must say something. i'll never forget. the most important words of tolstoy who said history would be a wonderful thing. if only it were true. we have a sketch of frantic reference to history, some history. we like some history. we don't we, we love to hear about. i heard somebody who saw so, but somebody who held up a bible and said this is our, this is our deed, i'm thinking, oh my gosh,
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this is not, this is not going to be effective. we're going be arguing biblical real estate here . and that's one thing. the other thing which is interesting is recently i don't think i especially remember our mainstream media are hanging on there. they've called the code. they've straight line. yeah. decades it. yep. the other day when tucker carlson, held the world spell bound by asking by meeting with vladimir putin and the world was waiting for the count down, i've seen people realize whole li, wow. this is a new world because of people on the internet of platforms, people 5 years ago, i think we've talked about these names like finkelstein, who was the d. b cooper of the dark web. it's guy was just absolutely absent it more and more people from more and more platforms are talking about this. and then also keep your eye on what's happening to the once explosive and promising bobby
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kennedy trajectory. who was going to be this, you know, left and right, who by the way, has been biased in some respects of some of left it left a young circles found that his adherents and his reputation of the is really side of the, of the argument is going to hurt him politically. so americans and biting in the left and the right or can, can live in this bubble and just kind of a goldfish bowl they want. but the world is speaking completely differently. i'm, i'm, i'm talking to you and i'm going to be done with this wonderful conversation and go back to my fish bowl, where i live, i'm thinking, are you people out of your mind? do you not know what everybody and i mean everybody is saying and, and it's that it's, it's that cone of silence. oh, but i live, i think maybe michael, you know, i'm a little bit more optimistic considering how pessimistic our situation is here. we're not talking about a poll tax, we're not talking about, you know, the, the,
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the speed limit on the free way. okay. now we're talking about really fundamentally human issues. and up until recently we never even use the word genocide in terms of current events. things have changed really fundamentally. well i, i right as long as netanyahu is in power, i don't have that much hope because there's no one to stand. it is way. he's beginning to sound like the nazis that the jews ran well escaped from. he's talking, he's talking okay, been right, my my cold like oh you're, you're proving my point. you're just proving my point right now saying something like that in a, in september of last year was unheard of. now i hear this all of the time. the discourse is changing. keep going. a yeah, he, he wants to eliminate the pilot standing and say, what's the go one way. he doesn't care how he wants to read. he has, he has pushed this entire madness to biblical proportions and, and,
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and re established what he believes to be. what god had, has given to the jewish people. when you get to that kind of frenzy outlook. it's hard to stop somebody except uh to take them out 11 way or the other. and this man has gone over the top and there's nobody to stop him. right, well well i'm not, i'm not, i'm not sure completely convinced that stephen, you know, this is one thing that october 7th and it was a tragedy and atrocities were committed. let's make no mistake. but israel's invincibility is been shattered. it's the turns has been shattered. and it's boiling for a war with loving not i. now i think it's inevitable, but there will be a war. and that this is really high stakes stuff. okay. but us consent aircraft carriers, but you know what they're can aircraft carriers can sink. okay,
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we're building up to something very, very big, and it's very ex, essential, steven? uh, this benjamin that then, you know, starts a war was about and we're talking about something big. we're talking about this by law. we're talking about a group where a tree we're talking about a group. well, uh well what the nice, we're not talking about some small missiles and lebanese made or. busy sophisticated mr. like they're using gusto and they, and there's risk keeping the thing just so can the world imagine what happened to the north occupied land a by this time, uh, israel and the center like it, the like even other cities. what's what happened from the past? the missile power and the power of his beloved rock, talking about them. he just speaking his people been speaking the whole vision in the van. and she's a lot of talking about the reason war that i like the principal not are not going to leave because by itself, even if the americans inter,
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we are talking about you're on interfering celia and to be any you're off into a feeling well talking, something massive yeah, but they've been driven to make it even, even though you've painted a very bleak picture, i can make it even more bleak for you. is that the west will go along with it. it, it can't do it. otherwise, it doesn't know how to stop line and let me go to you. do again, you're kind of my so mom in or upper uh, american public opinion. i mean, do people realize how dangerous the situation we're in right now? no, this is i'm, i'm, i'm sorry to keep saying this because you, i, again, we live in it and i'm talking about the average and by the way, well, intended, good people. a gentleman, there is something that happens in, in my country here, that whatever the word war happens, we feel almost invincible. we are back is traitor, and we point to the heavens and we stand for liberty and we have this
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a deal and dislike. but do you understand the moving parts here? do you understand who these people are? and i try my best. let me just say very quickly, i said, can you imagine just let me ask you if one day there is a knock on the door, you're in italy. if somebody knocks on the door, it says, hi, this is my land. now i'm from brooklyn. this is my, somebody just stop right there. how would you feel? and you, you view, they look at me sometimes and they're thinking, i know you're going to laugh. i know you're gonna laugh. what i'm telling me is they're saying, well, what is, is that going on? i'm thinking, oh my god. yes, that is what's been going on for 75 years. now. remember something as, as mirrors i'm or says there's something called realism. i met say right or wrong, i'm telling you the way it is. this is what people are thinking, not which why not? who's correct? but if you're labouring under a delusion, irrespective of your side and you've got weapons including nuclear weapons,
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you but you're start paying attention to what the, what they the one of the big drawbacks here. michael, you finish off the last 30 seconds here. if you disagree or just called an anti semite, that's still a very potent weapon. go ahead, michael on 2nd. yeah. and my case, it's hard to call him yes, actually. so i might, since i am one, however it's the reality is i see what netanyahu has done. i know the history and i also understand what it's going to lead to. and it's, and he's no better than the nazis that they ran away from. i can't get over this the way they are treating the palestinians today. it is outrages and intolerable. well everyone, well, we're all on record of what we said as it was happening. i have a clear conscience, gentlemen, that's all the time we have wanted to take my guess and rest in new york and would talk to you. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our d. c. a next time. remember, across the
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