losing his country now jailed along with his wife his parties, official symbol, even band. his party members, persecuted, killed and arrested. his goal is still secure with the most seats in last week's elections. so will they kill pocket stones, the most popular politician, the man who opposed drone strikes from his country and who oppose nature sanctions on russia? joining me now for him is i'm about to shut down. it goes, the people has joined the secretary and member of pocket funds national assembly. thank you so much for coming on the show. i better stop by saying even them is the catastrophes in guys that are in this region. what's happening in august on is clearly being watched all around the world. congratulations. how did you, when they seats as an independent with a majority of over 50000, given what we heard about the persecution by the pakistani authorities. although position candidates at the bottom entry elections in progress about the persecution started when before the election, the persecution started as early as june 2022. in my case,

i was false duplicated in a number of different if i was just because i'm on or even the case is criminal cases against me. so many cases against me at the idea of being that i would shift loyalties to from the wrong. com to anybody else, and of course, there was also before the would have no confidence which was august rated by foreign forces. that's what it actually uh, even before that we were offered mondays of or off and brian offered ministries, i believe it was quite an excise and never discussed in some sense because you never had it for medic and or her birthday. she said he does a congressman or members of has a common sending out, but the fact that we will be increasing like a cost and got to show was not black too, but neither then nor now. but it just shows the kind of opinion that the world has of this spot to pass, the total that they call us, or, or machines, or browns, or adverbs, or i, i don't know whichever category that would that central it's,

it's, it's not a good place to be right now the are the but you're an independent but you're, you're an independent but you're with a b, d i. how does it? well, i'm not allowed to dial me your in the b 's. yeah. so what happened was that uh they removed what 2 days before the election audit code was similar, was taken away from us. and given this as a country this, which has more than 40 percent imagery. so you can imagine how people would have said they will use the cricket, bad sign being associated with them drawn sign in with the bucks time period that we can stuff. but since that sign was taken away, the winning this and the fall of the people that has been simply amazing. 80 percent of the electorate turned up, but they weren't so based at that's a different story and a different question. i'll get to that later. but the people in particular from my area i go to 60000 lead, which was the quadrupling to where my nearest rifle and out of adult of 132000 boards. i'm anxious to go 80000. and this is coming from an age of which is the

tribal, which is really just which is traditional, which normally don't even allow the children he goes to go to school or to possess telephones. and yet yet they wanted for me because i stand for him wrong. so it is just as you can kind of love that to people's bikes that have for this month. and it's what 3 simple reasons you wanted about the help he worried about the jobs and he provided them schools, 3 things that every to wouldn't being deserves. so regardless of the director to head against him and pretty much all the mainstream media out there. and i'm a shame to say that even a journalist from blackest on god, you can speak english, will be a guest speakers in big magazines and newspapers like the financial times and the new york times. so there was a good conspiracy against him. and the idea was that, let's not have more independent countries or independent mind this countries, those of interesting article by an american also saying today that i was abducted and best with that off to into g. and the idea was that we like us of and still be

so fine. so it's the beginning point is that you see a focused on me as a self one to the bucket, finding prime minister electric problem. and instead of 7 or the countries 250000000 people as a blessing system, then you can just imagine what to think about the rest of us. and how does it work then? because the same day as a nation, media, arguable propagandist, quickly said whilst the p d i m are on guns movement on the most seats. they don't stand a john. so, i mean, how many, how many votes did they, how position, how many votes did the incumbents get? how is it possible that was very pictures of him? okay. are shown is the next prime minister, should it be you? cuz i think we are uh, living in a flu, sputtered i said at best i didn't know very dangerous scenario at west the country at this point to see if they could didn't to box the patient has reached a epic proportions for the 1st time and 76 years, a box on history,

people are out as jobs, people are leaving the country. people are dying on these of your didn't keyboards, trying to make the way to your, to big tiny amounts of money or large amounts of money to spend a human traffic. us and losing their lives lost here we lost 351 such x and we've lost our working class people as we call them on or, or the, or techies and our doctors and our engineers. and i know since the 700000 people left last year, i'm doing the kind of crack down that we've witnessed against women children, minorities, the different to april. it's been harvested the mothers dad off. so now we're just in the last of each decided that he wants to people to love him as he questions often in his own dime either to meetings a corner. we think this we called him, he has gained only 17 seats in honest punjab, which was supposed to be strong quote. he never had a strong board and send or keep you below, just done. and now the middle of the night, once we received and delivered our results to the presiding officers offices,

when they couldn't change the results, received the change, the results that will be given up. they did something very disingenuous. they added zeros to the back of the numbers of now i should have received a 125 boards. they made it to $125000.00 boards. that's how i'm sorry to say slapstick comedy as i've been committed in pakistan. he thinks of going to prime minister, he knows he's not going to be the prime minister and your next question, which i'm sure is coming. so rick, i'm to discuss with you the kinds of ridiculous propositions that are being posed at p t. i focused on that he gets off. so they can be, even though you've got the most votes, uh and the biggest problem entry at number of votes of any party. so there's no way that you'll be able to be in control of the pilot. i mean, i should just save it, obviously the in the united states. so you said earlier that the bribes and so on the go on they, they believe me, they, they do. and clearly they really tell in the united states the leading opposition

worked on in the bottom. but currently the leading opposition leader in the united states as being threatened with jail in britain as a leader that wasn't collected by the popular vote, the actual but just to just tell me why, why there is no way that the body of the got the most votes in pakistan's, parliament can never be the party with the majority it technically in progress, on spelling it no, i'm not saying never at all. i'm seeing that arts pressure tactics being used right now to be the people into submission. because the thing is, i'm enjoy list to call them lawyers to buckets done. if i don't become an elective member of parliament, i will be adjusted some way and some policy position. the point is the mandate of the people has been dropped. and as i said earlier, the ideas the focused on the people. because bucks on the bottom and data and set out for as little as a $1000000.00. so to begin doing this and send a weird monday to state people there for the people who wanted for they must also be equal to corrupt in equally direction. this,

that is not true for the 1st time in the history of focused on the people, the other people of focused on the dispossess before they have come out and voted in record numbers regardless of all the difficulties, including life threats that we're facing them attacks and they homes up with these people being incarcerated many trials, 13 or 13000 young men women in g is right now simply because to start by hon. anita who has 200 cases against him. the most ridiculous one being cited and what was the one of the most shameful cases. it's decided against him recently that he and his wife are not getting anybody. and so that's the use evidence by the ex husband, from whom she was legally divorced with the sister that the documents are testing to that. but he changes he changes statement in court and sorted has made so good. and this is a black mark on pakistan's history, on the women's rights and legal rights. and not the same goes, says respecting and you aware that box bonnie or global has spoken of spoken out

about it in the loud dra, loud enough terms, everyone he gave a piece me state, but oh, we object over the object. but this has been the sort of previous nomic history of the way women used to be treated in women to essentially catholic and the worst come back down to that and nobody everybody talks about my so i mean if you talk to somebody talks about of, i'm with me not going to schools and if i'm guys not going to squeeze back and nobody's talking about what has been done to the bucket study when it's disgusting, but they may come back to a mean question. you said that why is it that the couldn't be empowered since we want, we will be one way or the other. the 2nd, the showing things. i'm not going to be easy the next couple of months because the show these and is about ease and the others corrupted us. these have changed one, go up to the other to cover all the corruption cases to get them says different sort of i missed these. they give themselves a misuse from corruption to give them start for future. and this is what that if you see less than, i think it's $3000000.00. as a politician, you can go to g and so they've given themselves all kind of

a get out of j. c bosses. the public is simply not accepting it anymore. they don't see why searching corrupt from the business disagree with the country. we split the are being offered 2 options, one former coalition with the corrupt so sudden sunsets we use our modern found on the con should be by, by the president in criminal cases. so the con, comes out when he comes out to the tradition, which is dirty us. thirdly, we said to the opposition and opposition that could be used for another 5 years. none of those is blocked over to us. so what we're trying to do now, we want a simpler resolution. we don't want our country to face, we want this country to succeed despite everything they've done to us. we want this country to succeed. so we will be requesting all the presiding officers just wait and both on the court on, by the owner of the crown in order to find out what the hand on a public we'd be there. maybe it would be that everybody we'd be there and they would swear that not a single result of what was changed or tampered with. and in that situation were willing to accept defeat, were willing to accept it specifically opposition and do whatever has to be done

for this country. but sure to start, we would not successfully for anything. there has to be a legitimate recount of all the seats. we've won. morgan abc, $31.00 over to an overnight. and we have proof an evidence that was done. they of course, denying negotiations that are ongoing as regards of corruption or failures at, at the election. just a, this can take a pm who came into power after a run gun was a depos add more real hot cock r, who we, who easy, easy out to gave them to the have connections to us vested interest. given that it was a run, gone on the show, explaining that he's or withdrawal was a capitalize in part by washington. so, so, and the good i do have to send it to in when, when we were our colleagues, i was and i should send the, he wasn't the senate, we've had fairly candid conversations prior to him becoming the problem. this will probably be going to june. so unfortunately, take onto beat doors. i wish i could,

but anyways, i don't know what connection you has with us if any. but suffice it to say you used to be amount of principal. now with the kind of statements he makes as a kid, take a prime minister way within his only mandate is to ensure the free and fade and action. it makes one wonder if he's even aware of his constitutional responsibility . but beyond that, i should not like to say anything was unfortunately i've known him in the past. i called him a friend and so it's difficult to to be anything set in confidence, shut out, it goes, i'll stop you. the more from the pci is joined. secretary and member of august on the national assembly optimised break the the way are in moscow, standing in the front of one of russia's most iconic symbols in bodies, greece,

elegance, articles on a variety of scale theater. the boss can do, i just need to see what the washington state, but also the money to complete the rest of the guys has to phone up, send 2

professional men to keep the list of all but huge, but they use the welcome back to going on the right and i'm still here with you now that goes out of the guys doing secretary and member of your sons national assembly. now that we were talking earlier in part, the one about to talk are the k, the can take are a prime minister. you're also alleging a offers of bribes and corruption. is it also your understanding that there was def, there, i mean, you were in the international human rights group in washington avenue and development program. you know, about washington the i m f. was there

a defacto deal? pretty good bro quote with the i may have bailouts for getting rid of him or on con i don't know if it's a specialist, so because if they would use with the i investigate to a different problem, hon. they would have given us far more than the one of these a $1000000000.00 that they gave to the bbm government siobhan, should each government is the method was meant for direct and i'm sure we would have received a lot of money like new green bid for going against russia, but uh, i noticed that the sites, the story, everybody knows this. i, for that mr. garden, do send you to back to that already message or send to pakistan. the stuff that my jeep the discussion they had. and the kind of absolutely intangible discussion on the removal of the democratic p like elected prime minister, simply because the coverage by an administration does like him. and i really want to clarify at this point in time that nobody here is anti america. no one he is on to you to be a nobody. i mean how people are sitting there off. i'm just the thing,

get a relative, just the thing that they, i mean the decent living problems with the fact that the state department under bite and administration decide to look at that for this example. look at what they're doing. and by this time, look at what they've done and then you clean. i see that as an aging and somebody who was mentally a not up to the box up to the job, mister bite and administration decided to buy the buckets don's affairs. and they did, they did such a clumsy job that the left tracks everywhere. everybody knows. that was the american orders which removed a democratic and not elected prime minister and slush funds, which came to box them. and they bought out by the invitations. i think that's another 2nd, a slap on the face of american democracy at the base of hardworking people that make up the american dice, florida who would never sanction what was to buy did so i think it's not a country problem. it's an administrative problem, and it may have some rather dodge blunders. everybody knows about judge cotton is involved too quickly and a fix i for the case as well right now. i was abducted and that my of doctors or

forced abduction. i was told while i was in prison, that i the only reason i was visitors that i was giving interviews towards actually, media outlets and 2 embassies in a. somebody good non to pieced. i myself was approached by a particular embassy and i've never really the details of feedback to all the embassy. and we had a fairly frank and kind of discussion on how it would be best for me to either shift to be in is equal to is denise the or to the why should each tennessee and which i of course, would not accept incoming from a father. not who, who was a friend at the time? somebody had respected what was it was quite the meaning because i said this is what can be the dispute in peter this to stay and follow the or do anything. what? why did focused on send out? why did blackest on e set of icon to the name of the people i want to play my own? but of course, what may surprise some people in the global south who sympathize with them run guns, how quickly it's not just the state department has any blinking. who of course is a, it's too early to say about the election and hasn't really commented about the electric

persecution and the vote rigging. yeah, that's a good in the, in the elections. right. you see a bit, ron coach in the restroom. she needs it and being they be meeting with the officials that of a part of the i suppose qu government about your son as you would describe them. why is it, you know, not getting more support from like was, it was a different kind in moscow in the events began against him and, and over through him. why is it putting, changing being here on the, the talking to the new government they, they don't seem overly concerned about their own con situation. i think i was pushing, besides, reality of today is because nomic was, we don't 7 diplomatic times. other than kind of trauma, that is how i think and because of the trauma that is in folding. and by this time with the video, colonialism still moves and europeans are ruling by the states. and europeans have

decided that this has been home because it was promised within 2000 years of all the other things that that didn't even bother reading the book when he lifted up and suddenly discovered dealers of the separate face when they moved to by this time and the knock i have with them to kind of trauma that by this time has been suffering since 1947. i think the one has become essentially economic people, right? so regardless of what's not in the body, does in india to what's lambs or 2 dates, or 2 cushions or to the blending of judges. nobody even takes notes in wisdom. kept us because it's an economic bought now. so the words become quite a maureen, a martyr looks where money is concerned. and so where the money flow is the concern with go and pakistan wearable country may pour in the last 2 years by the sickening coalition of the seas. as we call it. i bought the finest 40 gees, so of course, if our own don't care, why would a foreign country get to intervene and not every other country is like the 100 those administration bite and administration. but they would choose to be

stabilized bucket stop. we are sleeping in the bed that we made for ourselves, and that is the scary, but is bucks, money? public is suffering. the buckets dining average person is suffering the average always suffering. why should china kid? why should putin get if i cosigned his own kid about themselves? of course they would care. and i should just say that. and i said this to your leader, it broke under the corruption did continue one day is leadership as well. they would get if and the russians a, they've said they were attacked by pockets, not any made drones flowed from ukraine, but they really would clear, really would care if it's true that in any way these dennis, these that you describe is a terrible impact on by your study society where in any way related to the genocide in gods as regards all being israel, is that what p t i need? if we can solve i think that would be 4 to 6 for me as a buck,

assigning for the as much thing that in any way pocket sign was eating or betting these. right? because that you the not these right? because that's a designing cause of genocide off most streams of genocide defy the simeon suggest . i've got the drop off if 80 buckets on the individual all additional otherwise was found to be completed. i think that's the end of the world. as i know, if i could not imagine genocide for anybody, whether they be most him, christian, jewish as london's anybody. so i think if, okay, well any brittany european union in the united states are coming this plausible genocide looking but is the investing because they the leadership in august on the, the, the energy to mate, rulers of your country is you would call them say it is all the cost caused by israel. of course it's a 100 plus the time one of the thing it's of the cost. it's just but if i may use the the and then how do you say the false egg weight, that is the hollow lead us of the g 20 which are valid. you defending an idea whose

time has expired is right. was not meant to be what it is today. yes, but june. but of course, if you will need, sorry to interrupt you, will need to, as it says, that the united states was pressuring pockets on to normalize relations with israel . we know that pressuring saudi arabia to normalize with israel. what do you think of the chances of normalization with israel, if you've got an illegitimate to government in his rama, by the way, back to my washington. i think given the i c g 's budget week as of may be in terms of implementation, the south african case brought against is right. and. and then the other cases that are coming full time at the i c, j. 4 complicity in the genocide against all these other countries. i think that's going to teach people lessons for a lifetime to come at the expense of the pool by the state he has made up left a month. but interestingly, as you said, i think this is going to be

a big blow back for everyone because should focus on the site to normalize relations, which is right. and now given that they're behind a genocide which country and it's right, mind we're going to days relations. so it is right many last american countries, of course that investors back shorter submitting ties with them. so if you, because how could anyone shake hands with a genocide him any? i would explain that to me a whore by didn't. i mean in the us, the calling of genocide your thoughts and focus on what's happening and have jews against genocide. it's also not named, you'll have different rabbi's different, adore. i'll use all over the word use are coming out and speak and then gets what is happening to the palestinians to the jews. the actual jews are condemning what is happening and their name. how could any nation state normalize relationship with his right? con was the head of the stein. you always on sort things before the happened. and this is one of the reasons he was removed because he wanted change change or just the focused on you want to be some that he didn't want to be some crush me. do you want to piece in a find this stuff? why shouldn't i understand?

but his son becoming for the, for anyone killed way. and let me show you really are expecting this year. are you fine? you're wanting to bring the service or the diaries to do anything different to what him or i will come would have done if he was still probably minister. i just actually would show him the f k this. the documents in the past few weeks really were the classified by the c i a that explains the cartridge ministration. prove that all those terror attacks that anyone over there is an agent pakistan would have remembered from afghanistan with funded by the united states. and of course in the run up to the us backing, what would then be kind of duplicate sony's, caraway's illiteracy, education. despite the time the, the, when the run come is premier in terms of educational funding, do they understand that the country has uh, well, according to these documents being, does we mass coming for decades because of washington, funding of is a mist of terrorism in your country. from have kind of as

a i think at this point in time was on those who created isis well funded. the reason how much is right. it says, i think the entire word now knows that what has been the imperial policy in the entire region need. i've what i mean, lots in america. nobody's forgotten the that they're called notation of africa, the 12 mazda congo. i think, at this point in time to what is realize that the clock, the colonizers, have destroyed the word, the thought of jesus to my, to complete. there's a greek problem, it's not that they're evil or all that week. basically property of money talks. so what ever necessary to secure a better life types themselves has been done and you can see this, what happened to the operation is in australia and we'll see you then. what happens with the need is to be nice to the states and canada. it's no surprise, the fact that it's happening of this century was the only surprise that we thought we were over imperialism. we, we, we were over the, was, we were over a genocide scared. he would not, katie would include honest and the from the jewish on the cost. okay, when it's out there and i'm missing some standing up on the board to anybody else

for that matter. in focused on a focus on his chosen to be a proxy or a vessel state of the us or any other country, then the for was enough. i keep on saying never had an american send it to sending out to rebecca signing congressman. you may see the incidence of corruption within the us of the you killed germany, but they will not be tied to a 3rd world country by this time. but when it comes to these countries, they don't have to take it. if the people in sebastian empties it well could one right as being the next, the largest muslim country population wise and people are worried about that of course. but i've been, and finally just ask you what the health of him are on con is finally easy actually say for after this result, because they really don't want to make him a much and knowing the power of him run gun even when he's in jail. i think people have undistorted about as bucks done for the 1st time. it's in a long wake up call for the, let's say the foreign forces they find these seem to focused on the people they have tried, they have dignity, they may not have money,

but they're very rich and on the very vision model values. so we will take us time for our country and we will take a piece of stone. we never raise any arms or a hands or any sort of step defense. on the 25th of the 2022. on the 9th of may, 202016, which was the biggest uh, 1st life operation and focused on dozens of 5 workers with how easy now, sorry, we're running into how how easy now is he on a fine line is stronger than ever is more on his strength, his wagner, his debate went to pakistan. he keeps on getting better, it keeps on getting every kind of effect. and he has 0 c a. so it comes with no good lucky country. we're blessed country, we have a man, they came, was genuine to his people and genuine discovery, and down the goes. i thank you. thank you. and that's it for the show. well continued condolences to those surviving the killing him because it will be back on monday with historian adults with the university professor emeritus i'll be shine to discuss washington's complicity in israel's war and gods are until then given to

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