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93 volume on mits, it denied this, and also falsely stated, in addition, nip said omitted. 3 times. he lied to the epi, i yeah, you didn't charge him with a crime. excuse me, our one on one. i'm sorry. did you say 193 volume on 193? he lied 3 times. you pointed out in the report. why didn't you charge him with the crime? so i can't get into a internal deliberations with regard to a waiter would not be. did you interview next? think of that, dismissive western intelligence. a rush, allergens, can't get into that. lot of things you can't get into. well, now we know why. house democrats on the intelligence committee, cold message kremlin linked, and a russian caught out. but a soul was told public and racket the midst of it was a professor who really worked for m y 6. and he was, he's spying on george papadopoulos and member of the foreign policy advisor and panel to donald funds 2016 presidential campaign. and he,
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like many americans want this operations to be the classified, which is exactly what trump tried to do, to expose this network of law i as in spies, but he was blocked time and time again. most notably by the c. i a director at the time. there are so many unanswered questions that the investigations kept covered up. i do believe that the operation will be declassified. should trump get re elected, which is why his 2nd term represents an ex essential threat to the intelligence agencies. it's a threat because the c, i a was always spying on people without a warrant or a cause using their international partners. but they were also major things off as they went along. and the high big inconvenience evidence which points to 20 collusion with the russians. they codes the intelligence they made it look like page and supported from the evidence points. the other way, we looked at the reports and the sourcing, they used to evaluate the sourcing. and then we got further to look at the days
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that are available to them that they didn't use any overwhelmingly contradicts. and the conclusions that russia support of trump is hardly surprising that us intelligence agencies broke a few logs. they've done it before. it's not even surprising to hear that they falsified intelligence. remember, iraq. but what is surprising is that it's the 1st time we hear about them use a fake, and so to interfere in their own political affairs. this is just another case. so to kind of make this so even if you tried or just about it, right. so now here in austin international but we are lining up another program for you at the top of the our as auntie, of course is lines and worldwide the
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option redundancy and welcome back to going underground pool casting all around the world from the u. a. and we're on con, has twice been on this show since going underground. move to the u. a. in those interviews, banned by youtube and available on rumble the over time. prime minister of nuclear around pockets on reiterated his evidence for the u. s. role and destabilizing his country now jailed along with his wife, his party's official symbol even banned. his posse members, persecuted, killed and arrested. his goal is still secure with the most seats in last week's elections. so will they killed pocket stones, the most popular politician, the man who opposed drone strikes from his country and who oppose nature sanctions on russia? joining me that from his mom of edison down, it goes, the people has joined the secretary and member of congress on national assembly. thank you so much for coming on the show. i better stop by saying even them is the catastrophe using guys are in this region. what's happening in august on is clearly
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being watched all around the world. congratulations. how did you, when they seats as an independent, with a majority of over 50000, given what we heard about the persecution by the pakistani authorities all position candidates at the bottom entry elections in progress about the persecution started? when before the election, the persecution started as early as june 2022. in my case, i was false duplicated in a number of different sizes because in, on or even the case is criminal cases against me. so many cases against me at the idea of being that i would shift loyalties to from the wrong com to anybody else. and of course, there was also before the what is no confidence which was august rated by foreign forces. that's what it actually even before that we were offered money needed were often brian offered ministries. it was quite an excise and never discussed in some
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sense because you never heard of american or her birthday. she said he does a congressman or members of hasn't the common sending out that the fact that we are being treated like a boss and got to show was not black too, but neither then nor now. but it just shows the kind of opinion that the world has of this spots past the total that they call us, or, or most themes, or browns, or adverbs, or, i don't know whichever category to get that would have central. but it's, it's, it's not a good place to be right now or the, but you're an independent, but you're, you're an independent button. you're with the be the i. how does it work? i'm not allowed to tell me your in the be the. so what happened was that uh they removed what 2 days before the election audit code is similar, was taken away from us and given us as a country to which is more than 40 percent electricity, you can imagine how people would have said they will use the cricket bad sign being associated with them drawn sign in with the bucks time period that we can south.
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but since that sign was taken away, the willingness and the power of the people that has been simply amazing 80 percent of the like to attend. but their works were based and that's a different story and a different question. i'll get to that later. but the people in particular from my area i go to 60000 lead, which was the quadrupling over my dearest rifle. and out of adult of 132000 boards, i'm anxious to go 80000. and this is coming from an age of which is the tribal, which is really just which is traditional, which normally don't even allow the children he goes to go to school or to possess telephones. and yet yet they want it for me because i stand for him wrong. so it is just as with the kind of love that the people's bikes on how to dismount and it's what 3 simple reasons he wanted about to help you. what about the jobs and he provided them schools, 3 things at every true and being, deserves. so regardless of the director to head against him and pretty much all the mainstream media out there. and i'm a shame to say that even
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a journalist from bach as don conky and speak english were made guest speakers in big magazines and newspapers like the financial times and the new york times. so there was a good conspiracy against him. and the idea was that let's not have more independent countries or independent mind this countries, those of interesting article by an american also saying the data that was abducted . and that's what they don't have to go into g. and the idea was that we like us ovens to be so by. so it's the beginning point is that you see a focused on me as a self one to the bike, assigning prime minister electric problem. and instead of 7 or the countries 250000000 people as a blessing system, then you can just imagine what to think about the rest of us. and how does it work then? because the same day as a nation, media, arguable propagandist, quickly said whilst the p d i m are on guns movement. what on the most seats? they don't stand a john, so i mean, how many, how many votes did they, how position, how many votes did the incumbents get?
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how is it possible that was very pictures of him? okay. are shown is the next prime minister, should it be you? i think we are living in a flu spatter dyson at best, and then a very big interest scenario at west the country at this point to see if they could tend to box the patient has reached a epic proportions for the 1st time and 76 years of pakistan, history, people are august jobs, people are leaving the country. people are dying on these of your dig keyboards, trying to make the way to your, to big tiny amounts of money or large amounts of money to spend a human traffic us and losing their lives. lost here we lost 351 such accent. we've lost our working class people as we call them on or, or the a rock techies. and i talked to the engineers and i noticed that the 700000 people left last year doing the kind of crack down that we've witnessed against women, children, minorities,
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the different people. it's been who listed the mothers dad off. so now we're just one of us, so each decided that he wants to people to love him as he questions often in his own dime, either to meetings a corner meeting, just because he has gained only 17 seats in on it's been job which was supposed to be a strong quote, he never had a strong board and send or keep, you know, just done. and now what the mission of the night once we received and delivered the results to the presiding officers offices. when they couldn't change the results received the change, the results that will be given up. they did something very disingenuous. they added zeros to the back of the numbers. so if, unless you need received a 125 boards, they made it to 125000 boards. that's how i'm sorry to say slapstick. comedy is. i've been committed in pakistan. he thinks of going to prime minister. he knows he's not going to be the prime minister and in your next question, which i'm sure is coming. so rick, i'm to discuss with you the kind of ridiculous propositions that are being posed at
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p t. i back, somebody gets off. so they called me, even though you've got the most votes and the biggest problem entry at number of votes of any the, there's no way that you'll be able to be in control of the pilot. i mean, i should just save it. obviously, the not in the united states that you said earlier that the bribes and so on the go on they, they believe me, they, they do. and clearly they really tell in the united states the leading opposition, what do i need to find them? i can't even needing opposition leader in the united states as being threatened with jail and written as a leader that wasn't selected by the popular vote the actual but just to just tell me why, why there is no way that the body to get the most votes and talk is bounds, parliament can never be the policy with the majority it technically in progress on the bottom it no, i'm not saying never at all. i'm seeing that arts pressure tactics being used right now to be the people into submission. because the thing is, i'm enjoy list to call them lawyers to back as time. if i don't become an elective
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member of parliament, i will be adjusted some way and some policy position. the point is the mandate of the people has been dropped. and as i said earlier, the ideas, the bucket study people, the cost bucks on the bottom and data and set out for as little as a $1000000.00. so to begin doing this and send a weird monday to state people, therefore the people who voted for they must also be equal to corrupt in equally direction. this, that is not true for the 1st time in the history of focused on the people, the other people of focused on the dispossess before they have come out and voted in record numbers regardless of all the difficulties, including life threats that were facing them. attacks and the homes that police people being incarcerated many trials, 13 or 13000 young men, women in g is right now simply because to start by hon. anita who has 200 cases against him. the most ridiculous one being cited and what was the one of the most shameful cases it's besides is against him recently that he and his wife are not
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getting anybody. and so that's the use evidence by the ex husband, from whom she was legally divorced. with the sister that the documents are testing to that, but he changes he changes statement in court and sorted has made so good. and this is a black mark on pakistan's history, on the women's rights and legal rights. and not the same goes, says respecting, and you with it box bonnie or global has spoken of spoken out about it in loud just loud enough terms. everybody gave a piece me say per o we object or we object. but this has been the sort of pre islamic history of the way women used to be treated. and women were essentially catholic and the worst come back down to that and nobody everybody talks about my so i mean, if you talk to the people he talks about of, on with me, not going to schools. and if i'm guys not going to squeeze back, nobody's talking about what has been done to the bucket study when it's disgusting . but let me come back to, i mean question. you said that why is it that the couldn't be empowered since we want? we will be one way or the other,
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the 2nd showing things. i'm not going to be easy the next couple of months because the show these and is about ease and the others corrupted us. these have changed one, go up to the other to cover up all the corruption cases to get them says different sort of i missed these. they give themselves a misuse from corruption to give that set for the future. and this is what that if you see less then i think it's $3000000.00. as a politician, you can go to g and so they've given themselves all kind of a get out to the g suite bosses. the public is simply not accepting it anymore. they don't see why searching corrupt from the business. these children in the country, we have speed, they are being offered 2 options. one former coalition with the corrupt so sudden sunsets we use our modern found on the con should be by, by the president in criminal cases. so the con, comes out when he comes out to the tradition, which is dirty us. thirdly, we said to the opposition and opposition that could be of use for another 5 years. none of those is blocked over to us. so what we're trying to do now, we want
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a simpler resolution. we don't want our country to face, we want this country to succeed despite everything they've done to us. we want this country to succeed. so we will be requesting all the presiding officers just wait and both on the court on, by the owner of the crown in order to find out what their hand on a public, we'd be their media. we'd be that everybody we'd be there and they would swear that not to sing the result of what was changed or tampered with. and in that situation were willing to accept defeat, were willing to accept it specifically opposition and do whatever has to be done for this country. but sure to start, we will not be accepted for anything. there has to be a legitimate recount of all the seats. we've won morgan abc therapy, one over to an overnight. and we have proof an evidence that was done. they of course, denying negotiations that are ongoing as regards of corruption or failures at, at the election. just a, this can take a pm who came into power after a round con was depos, add more real hot cock r, who we, who easy, easy out to gave them to the have connections to us vested interest. given that it
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was a run, gone on the show, explaining that he's or withdrawal was a capitalized in part by washington. so, so, and learned how good i'm doing. and i just sent it to in when, when we were out of colleagues, i was and i should send the he wasn't the senate, we've had fairly candid conversations prior to him becoming the problem. this will probably be going to june. so unfortunately, jake, onto beat doors. i wish i could, but anyways, i don't know what connection he has with us if any. but suffice it to say he used to be a minus principal. now with the kind of statements he makes as a kid, take a prime minister way with it. his only mandate is to ensure the free and paid addiction. it makes one wonder if he's even aware of his constitutional responsibility. but beyond that, i should not like to say anything was unfortunately i've known him in the past. i called him a friend and so it's difficult to to be anything set in confidence that it goes. i'll stop you. the more from the pci is joined. secretary and member of august on
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the national assembly after this break the the, the welcome back to going on the guy that i'm still here with you now that goes out of the guys doing secretary and member of our cosigns national assembly. you know that we were talking earlier in part the one about a car, the k, the catch acre, uh, prime minister. you're also alleging offers of bribes and corruption. is it also
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your understanding that there was def, there? i mean, you were in the international human rights group in washington and the, you and developing program. you know, about washington the i m f. was there a defacto deal? pretty quick broke. well, with the i may have bailouts for getting rid of him or on con i don't know if it's a specialist. so because if they would use with the i investigator different problem, hon. they would have given us far more than the one me z $1000000000.00 that they gave to the bbm government shop. i'll shoot each government is the method was wonderful direct and i'm sure we would have received a lot of money like ukraine bid for going against russia. but i know that the disciple story, everybody knows this. i for that mr. garden do send to back it to that are invested us and to back as time just us as my jeep the discussion they had. and the kind of
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absolutely intangible discussion on the removal of the democratic p like elected prime minister, simply because the coverage by an administration does like him. and i really want to clarify this point in time that nobody here is anti america. no one, he is anti european nobody i mean now people sitting there off, i'm just the thing, get a relative. that's the thing that they, i mean the decent living problems with the fact that the state department under bite and administration decide to look at that for this example. look at what they're doing and palestine look at what they've done and then you cream. i see that as an aging and somebody who was mentally a not up to the box up to the job, mister bite and administration, decided to make his buck as don's affairs. and they did. they did such a clumsy job that the left trucks everywhere. everybody knows that was the american orders which removed the democratic and my elected prime minister and slush funds, which came to box them and they bought out by the invitations. i think that's another 2nd, a slap on the face of american democracy at the base of hardworking people that
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make up the american dice. florida would never sanction what was to buy to do so. i think it's not a country problem. it's an administrative problem, and it may have some rather dodge blunders. everybody knows about just calling his boss to continue in a fix. i for the case as well right now. i was abducted and that my of doctors or post abduction. i was told while i was in prison, that i, the only reason i was in prism is that i was giving interviews towards actually media outlets. and 2 embassies in a, somebody with non, to pieced my sense was approached by a particular embassy. and i've never really be the details of the past with all the embassy. and we had a fairly frank and kind of discussion on how it would be best for me to either shift to be an example, to this dentist, the or to the why should each tennessee and which i of course, would not accept incoming from a father or not who, who was a friend at the time? somebody had respected what was it was quite the meaning because i said this is what could be the dispute in beer this to stay involved with the or do anything. what? why did focused on send out?
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why did blackest on the set of icons, the other people i went to play my own? but of course, what may surprise some people in the global south who sympathized with their own gun is how quickly it's not just the state department that has any blinking. who of course is a, it's too early to say about the election and it hasn't really commented about the electric persecution and a vote rigging. yeah, that's a good in the elections. right? you see a be around put to the restroom. she needs you in being they be meeting with officials that of a part of the, i suppose to government about your son as you would describe them. why is it, you know, getting more support from like was, it was a run kind of in moscow in the events began against him and over through him. why is it putting, changing being here on that they're talking to the new government saying they don't seem overly concerned about their own con situation. i think of option besides
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reality of today is because nomic was we don't 7 diplomatic dimes other than kind a trauma, that is how it goes out. and the trauma that has of folding in palestine where the dio colonialism still moves and europeans are ruling by the states. and europeans have decided that this has been home because it was promised within 2000 years of all the other things that that didn't even bother reading their own book when they lived in the up in the subject discovered dealer of the separate face. when they moved it by this time and the knock i have with them the kinds of trauma that by this time has been suffering since 1947. i think the one has become essentially economic people, right? so regardless of what's not in the body, does in india to muslims or 2 dates or 2 cushions or to the blending of judges. nobody even takes notes in wisdom. kept us because it's an economic bought now. so the words become quite a maureen immortal. where money is concerned, and so where the money flow is the concern with go and pakistan wearable country
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may pour in the last 2 years by the sickening coalition of the seas as we call it. i bought the finest 40 gees. so of course, if our own don't care, why would a foreign country get to intervene and not every other country is like the 100, those administration bite and administration that they would choose to be stabilized focused on. we are sleeping in the bed that we made for ourselves and that is the scary, but is bucks? mommy? public is suffering. the buckets dining average person is suffering the average always suffering. why should china kid? why should putin get is by cosigned his own kid about themselves? of course they would care, and i should just say that, and i said this to your leader, it broke under the corruption did continue under his leadership as well. they would get if and the russians a, they've said they were attacked by pockets, not any may drones flowed from ukraine, but they really would clear, really would care if it's true that in any way these dentist is that you
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describe is a terrible impact on by your study society were in any way related to the genocide in gods as regards all being israel. is that what uh the i mean, even solve i think that would be 4 to 6 for me as a buck, assigning for the as much thing that in any way pocket sign was eating or betting these. right? because that you the not these right? because that's a design is because of genocide off most streams of genocide defy the simeon suggest. i've got the drop off if 80 buckets time the individual functional otherwise was found to be completed. i think that's the end of the world as i know which i could not imagine genocide for anybody where did they be most tim christian, jewish as london's anybody. so i think it's more. okay. well, a brand new european union in the united states are coming this plausible genocide looking but is the investing because they the leadership in august on the, the,
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the energy to mate rule is, of your country is you would call them say it is all the cost goes by as well. of course it's a 100 plus the time what it is saying, it's a low cost. it's just but if i may use the the, and how do you say the false a great that it's the hollow lead us of the g 20. which are very to defending an idea whose stipe has expired, is right. it was not meant to be what it is today. yes, but the june. but of course, if you only the, sorry to interrupt you, will need to, as it says that the united states was pressuring pockets on to normalize relations with israel. we know the pressuring saudi arabia to normalize with israel. what do you think of the chances of normalization with israel if you've got an illegitimate to government and is i'm gonna buy that back to my washington. i think given the i, c, g is budget week, as of may be in terms of implementation. the south african case brought against is
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right. and then the other cases that are coming full time at the i c, j. 4 complicity in the genocide against all these other countries. i think that's going to teach people lessons for a lifetime to come at the expense of the pool by the student has made up left a month. but interestingly, as you said, i think this is going to be a big blow back for everyone because should focus on the site to normalize relations, which is right. and now given that they're behind a genocide which country and it's right, mind we're going to days relations. so it is right, many last american countries of call that invest as back sort of submitting ties with them. so if you, because how can anyone shake hands with a genocide? maybe i would explain that to me or by didn't. i mean in the us, the calling of genocide your thoughts and focus on what's happening? you have jews against genocide. it's also not named. do have different rabbi is different. i thought i'll use all over the word use are coming out and speak and then gets what is happening to the palestinians to the jews the actual jews are condemning what is happening in their name. how could any nation state normalize
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relationship with his right? con was the head of the stein. you always on sort things before the happened. and this is one of the reasons he was removed because he wanted change change or just the buckets done. he would be some that he didn't want to be some gush me. do you want to piece in a find this stuff? why showed up on his son in pakistan become and for the, for anyone good way. and let me show you really are expecting missionary yvonne, you're next spring this year we have so or so diaries to do anything different to whatever i will come would have done. if he was still prime minister, i just actually would join the f k this, the documents in the past few weeks really were the classified menissi i a that explains the cartridge ministration. proved that all those terror attacks that anyone over there is an agent pakistan would have remembered from afghanistan, with funded by the united states. and of course in the run up to the us backing. what would then be ok to duplicate sony's, caraway's illiteracy, education despite the time the, the when the wrong. com is premier in terms of educational funding. do they
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understand that the country has uh, according to these documents being this being mass coming for decades because of washington funding of is a mist of terrorism in your country from have kind of as a i think at this point in time was on those who created, isis well funded that, what do you know? how much is right? it says, i think the entire word now knows that what has been the imperial policy in the entire region. indeed, i've looked at me lots in america. nobody's forgotten the, that the quotation of africa, the 12 mazda congo. i think, at this point in time to what is realize that the clock, the colonizers, have destroyed the word, the thought of jesus to my, to complete. there's a greek problem. it's not that the evil on all that week, disagree problem, money talks. so what ever necessary to secure a better life types themselves has been done. and you can see just what happened to the operation these in australia and we'll see you then. what happened to the need
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is to be nice to the states and canada. it's no surprise. the fact that it's happening of this century was the only surprise that we thought we were over imperialism. we, we, we were over. it was, we were over a genocide scared, he would not get it would include allison from the jewish on the cost. okay. when it's out there and i'm missing some standing up on the board to anybody else for that matter in focused on a focus on his chosen to be a proxy or versus the state of the us or any other country that before was enough. i keep on saying, we've never had an american senator sending out to rebecca signing congressman. you may see the incidence of corruption within the us of the you killed germany, but they will not be tied to a 3rd world country by this time. but when it comes to these countries, they don't have to take it. if the people in sebastian empties it well could one right as being the next, the, the largest muslim country population wise and people are worried about that of course. but i've been, and finally just ask you what the health of him are on con is finally easy actually say for after this result, because they really don't want to make him
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a much and knowing the power of him run gun even when he's in jail. i think people have undistorted about as bucks done for the 1st time. it's in a long wake up call for the. let's see the fun forces they find these seem to focused on the people they have tried, they have dignity, they may not have money, but they're very rich and on the very vision model values. so we will take us time for our country and we will take a piece of stone. we never raise any arms or a hands or any sort of step defense. on the 25th of the 2022, on 9th of may, 202016. which was the biggest uh, 1st life operation and focused on dozens of 5 workers with how easy now. sorry, we're running on how. how easy now is he on a fine sign is stronger than ever. his more rugs, his strength, his value, or his commitment to pakistan. he keeps on getting better trips. he keeps on getting every kind of effect and he has 0 c a. so it comes with no good lucky country. we're blessed country, we have a man, they came, was genuine to his people and genuine discovery and down the goes. i thank you.
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thank you. and that's it for the show. continued condolences to those surviving the killing him because it will be back on monday with historian adults with university professor americas. i'll be assigned to discuss washington's complicity in israel's war and gods are until then keep unjustifiable social media. if it's not the sense that in your country, network channel going on be going to be a normal, don't come to watch, new and old episodes of going underground to monday. the th, which breaking news of the headlines are on our tape that's russia's defense minister confirms that.

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