you know, you've got your credit, ukraine having to repay those loans through the government at some time. and what really happens is the us then uh, forgives those loans further down the road. so this loan thing is, this is excuse to try to sell it that i'm very sorry. there was so much more that i would like to ask too, but uh they told me that all the time has run out. i do appreciate as always your insight there was a talk to jack cross and special the comments on politics as in mary's college of california. thank you. well that is the news rundown this thursday morning, next up, although it's meant to travels to namibia and towards people who are for century on still feel the scholars inflicted by a personal age and criminal history. the on the

so i used to be smoking this quote to the club. that's why they said it not. let me set this up. i'm one of the same which is talking to the truth of what really happened here in he's off of the the gym and so just bear with the, with the one with taking the picture. they were proud of the most like us the these pictures rustic in between menu whole for an o h is the one to see the centuries and it becomes and the person knows of what each scene contains out on the mission, the bidding, the from

a definitely even see this of the shower head on 2nd, change the a lot of photographs and you know, that is actually in most photograph, what's not taking beverly assistance. this is just the german soldiers. and so the people, so that goes into a sentence that the, the, the,

because it's really getting was behind the, the lighthouse it was the 1st closer vision. can you see the from the book, the kaisers holocaust, germany's for go from genocide in the colonial boots of not susan. there were 5 main caps each had been located in or near recite of the gym and settlement as it was the that the need for african labor was much depressing. most of the records, both military and civilian for the concentration camps of german sales west africa have been lost. a surprising amount of official documentation from the account books walk up, montes semis. the herrera were placed behind a double row was stopped while from early morning until late at night they had to work on to the clumps of the role of overseas in 19 o 5, the inmates of the concentration camps. we used to unload the transport fairies and

carried the goods up to death. those inland and swat government hereto. women were formed into teams of 8 and a new of oxen, nate, to pull in the wagons due to the lack of male prisoners. it was mainly women and children as young as 12 flo rented out of private individuals. the colonial government introduced formal regulations for the renting else. if the person has the army as ration list placed, the concentration camp prison is just above new rules in order of priorities. the official count progression was 500 grams of rice or flannel up a day for a male. women and children were often given russians because neither vice nor was known to them, they had no knowledge of how to cook it. the prisoners ain't things unfamiliar russians, rules, unaware, edit uncooked. they caused diarrhea. it is hard to determine the number of lives

lost in the caps, the only comp that kept records of mortality and 19 o 5. what's this walk up? i'm going to come. according to the statistics, approximately 40 percent of the prisoners in smoke up month died during the 1st 4 months of captivity. the tax lasted investigates. here really is decent size. and the way to do that is uh yes of of it, sir. that's, that's, that's a gives and i'd spoke on march the beginning on summit officer linds about his daughters and fun for them. and they listed this $1.00 and $1.00 of morales and fun toward them, deutschland severed in vienna, media, and did not come to apply. and if i gave them bit skis to that i can on this one, i missed listen, lights distant upfront, silver food border one and then the media with the nice come the up from it. and

the zip sensor will come in. who from i just combine some of the oil go into stood some, the discounts, those on us, on the, the elf ball, with a big long get the very fusing to pay us. what they are giving us is not a repetition. they man as defined in terms of their doors of international law. they are just giving a pretense of a call. you say they also call it the development a fund for projects project like schools and the rows, bridges and blah, blah, blah blah. they can not qualify the definition of repetition. their position is, i've just been payment for the government. you have committed

so they talking about infrastructure development. infrastructure development is the responsibility of the now me being states. we detect it because when the german government does not acknowledge channel site, it says general site from today's the status. so that is not acknowledgment, gemini, must totally acknowledge genocide. tim and he must give to sincere apology. and so many must pay patients. and then those goals amount that is where the president got the money tucked away, paid to the jewels, you know, the victims of the holocaust. when you compare it to the amount that the dim and a offered is completely as well as the difference in terms of the substance of thought to the bucket. the 2nd aspect

is that the, the process of negotiation between the 2 governments did not include the victim that defended or for the victims the result. so that's what we have seen that when the agreement was to generate that more divisions and the mall, and guy and more questions and all of those they've been very tricky in terms of the language use the never even wider use the word reparation. and there's been declaration, and that is probably deliberate. i think the it will open to a, a ponder as box the and, and you'd also realize that a good number of countries in the west has not been support you all. why does it what has been happening here? so the moment the for example is supposed to be here or not my case against the gym

in the next thing. it will be them who would then also have to pay the items that you get. i do order a highly, uh not you know, the items, what did you get an item that you didn't find home or was not c d 's and i get a now they need it. on the the late 19th century, we saw a campaign to colonize the region, which would later come to be known as german south west africa. by then, most of the continent had long been divided between european color noises, and jem and his shag could not be described as prime land. however, by various means, the new mazda is begun to claim past. due land and livestock from the indigenous

hereto number tribes came in on the head of capital, stolen from adams. besides with glowing instead of frenzy wolf lodge, hector some for me to make the old private, the and 90, you know, for the how to people launch an uprising. they are later joined by the number dr. rising continues to consume the entire region from the book, the kaiser is how the coal, germany's the government genocide and the colonial roots of not to them by 19 of follow the river. people had enjoyed several years of abuse and provocation and events in oklahoma and joe, with his box upset full of red alonda, blaze,

brandishing clubs, knives and guns. to have it all attacked german funds. settlers were killed in advance, on occasion, by their own themselves. colonial troops surrounded the rebels and to load them down from major filaments diary who fought in both of them. we had been explicitly told beforehand that what we were dealing with was the explanation of the whole tribe. nothing living was to be sped. the survivors were pushed into the desert with hunger and finished off any one that the soldiers couldn't reach. at that point, the germans didn't realize that they were treating that potential labor source on wisely. it was then that the concentration camps appeared. on january the 14th 19 o 5, the general was directly ordered to establish

a number of what the oldest and constant throughout the longer a literal translation of english concentration camp johnson live on. bill now specifically stated that the surrendering available should be put on the guard and required to work c, germany bills. this wise, the jews began anticipating the concentration camps of the to the right. some of the dead of shock islands became a result exploits in the name of the medical center racial science. this goals with m placed into crates by the german soldiers and ships, the museums, collections and universities in germany. this practice was so widespread and accepted himself west africa, but in 19 o 5, it was depicted on a postcard. but are you ready to leave that going you on the 2nd week of my girlfriends and i know you got got a with i actually how much will i she on google more guy and we spend almost

a week triple. and then we get to bundle the, the, according to you in 1995, the german troops wiped out 3 quarters of the people. and about us out of the number, the same rom. just don't have to shape house because in the afternoon and engagement to close the trail. when so many find themselves worlds of parts, we choose to look for common ground the the

when they came out of the concentration camps, they wait a week and to a new reality off the lens, the homes, and now being private lead. suddenly because of late into that, please now i'll keep my wife to reflect from respect people do this because often they did. he allows me to get

them finding the new lives. the way we live today is not the way of people are distorted. what is a piece of that black where we need the genocide it was but is tristan knowledge, the lender has never been to the people once they came out of the consultation case were put into native resists

to make space to make a living stone for jim and federalist whose defendants still living on that same land. the physical agency. id, police? yeah. goodness, that's hard to sometimes see the de cutty new need and then it comes not under. do you need uh for now a bottle of size as indeed they cannot do that? i'm the best knowledge of the lead time being to non non budget to do new tying up non d basically how much in a day hum, only got the

young i'm not on the group would have to me up to go from last comb since different political lots, there's stuff for you to give you the coverage, you know one got it. co pays to job to drive over know what to do to, to just kind of connected the coverage on the g 3 d o in the media to proceed. id hoped to be open. okay. the last day

or scholarship or something cuz he as well, who does the job with sidney web? i. hi. it's important and our conversation about the land issue to make sure that we come up with the walkable solutions for everybody. is examples of the gym and stuff i'm leaving via they have been giving you a full search of the way you can say nothing. you should not even let individual lives take away. i think the general government thinks the big jump that is close. they have agreed on the, you know, development buckets that they are going to give or they have a photo joyce into that they acknowledge

a genocide and they think the jump dice is close. so you can see that it is pushing divisions, the end of tape button to create a new problems. what to the agreement, the fill the pot for, for which of the, the use of the country. because my family was in last all this time. my grandfather from my mother's side. he came here as a 19 year old young soldier. he came in 19 o 4 um after the war he decided to remain in that time german, south, west africa are my children, the 1st generation and got grandchildren for another 50 years now.

you know, the interesting thing is of the, the 1st village. well, of course, the german router was over to the south africans then took over and they continued with exactly the same policies. they did not stay local population, especially the same as even stricter rules, keeping them in their reserves. read as young whites at it during a popular time. we've kept, you know, we had our own scores. everything was apart and separate until we started a score on the phone for the children of the employees, mainly nama in our area where we were living. then it became clear to us what had

actually happened they had never been close about the trauma that they experience, especially was that status sort of flow of 12 citizen. never changed until independence. only when in 2004, when the 100 yeah. send teen or we of the colonial came up. the people of course saw about the use, the to them a new drum and speaking and they don't have

a streak going back. they came often, it was menu, came off to the 2nd was they started blaming us that we sort of, you know, take out our stories which may just create to problems. they say let sleeping dogs lie very determined that we must solve this issue. we must get an understanding among our different population groups. we can have a clear conscience living with each other the

only 2006. and that may be in parliament, unanimously passed a solution in which they decided that they don't need to approach the gym and government full and acknowledgement for an apology. and for their patients from 2006 until about 2015. the german government police us that to better assist us, but it was due to the pressure that was put by the nama and go by, i don't know people um, through the latest that jim, when he finally said, okay, let's talk about it. i think this is a very bold decision by the german government to even stop the go see ations. you know, the joint declaration actually appeared to be really

a break. so the henri and ro a nama people, a in a large number, did not agree with the drawing declaration. so the main argument is that they were not involved in the negotiations. the frontal, the guns in the morning and in the afternoon sydney had remained in order for me to share some information. you didn't want my phone was pat kaiser. among not only me please me, sad. i get out of the nursing home and as long as i can, i get and how about i get on my what i get and how much that you really didn't do that you couldn't go to settings the

negotiation we're talking about talking about. but it is not just started as far as the head arrows and the numbers where you say, you called me the general said, let's sit down and talk so that we can tell you how you have damaged us and how much we have to calculate in terms of our offices, the, the german government did not accept a re negotiation of the john declaration, but by now they had,

they agreed to adding a few the particulars, they call it the addendum. they also agreed that the original stipulation of how certain sections of the compensation should be spent could be changed. they would have a foundation running the compensation they would communicate with all the involved chiefs. the chiefs would have to find out from their communities what they want. so if there's a community who don't have water supply, who don't to have electricity, who don't have a school, hospital know, wrote to the village, whatever. then the community can say that this want to be one test and the chief will communicate to the foundation and say this is what our area wants. but

in the addendum they specify that the amount of 1100000000 euros it will still send as initial amount. that's good. yeah. because we know that isn't the way to it doesn't want to be gemini, some pointed by a medial appeal customs. cute of similar crimes. we know that we the ones our key success. it fits with genocide that communities across the world would also come for a few months. and i was struck up. this would be good because

it is a classic case study in which to, i'm a communities of, on the southern tip of africa are taking on a might see, you know, so the west and power. it is a case that people are following because it was set up a place it in full. how are the assets and countries you know what you learn from this experience to also deal with with a full man with a format collodion. last like like france and belgium and so on. i'm still a lot of countries and there was no way of, i mean kind of that way at one point into the power that watching with keen interest. like we did, i had friends with oxford because you know,

put in a claim to say no, what was that you guys did it wrong? the or the the the

the div cuz coke and chemical plants is quite dangerous to hang around here. now because they say there may still be some ukranian troops running around here somewhere. we have an exclusive report from the recently how to the updates got kind of the top state highest, a strategic points. and they've done yet complex, where russian full says that fonts under constant bought meanwhile, think awesome. this is a war of extermination. and a war finding. this is not a war, this is our 9 lation tongue grows, but food supplies shrink. being un $4.00 to $8.00 and a brief to do but destroyed, move and calls up on so as of reading officials, praying to ideas that distinction of the end.