of the hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered non peter roosevelt, the united states. it is orbit of vassal states or the coalition against peace from ukraine to god. so it is the fight in ministration. it is against most of the world and historic wind is blowing against the west, the cross talking palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal with media analyst and rome. we have ramsey are rude. he is a policy and author and journalist and basically we cross the allan, allan medina. he is a coordinator for the policy, any one democratic state initiative in 11th. all right, gentlemen, comstock rules and effects, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate ramsey, let me go to you 1st here. i mean, we were uh, in the afterglow of the united states for the 3rd time rejecting

a ceasefire at the united nations security council. quite interesting, are you in a man i usually don't quote on this program. if i do quote it, it's very disparagingly is joseph burrell. we who is what b e. u high commissioner for foreign policy. and he was set in a recent venue that there was a historic wind blowing against the west. his words and the rejection of the united states, almost singularly alone in the world against a ceasefire. put to, to, to put the 2 together for me or so the world knows what he's talking about. peter, i mean, this is a man who kind of assigns himself to this kind of height understanding of the world . and he referred west to europe as a jungle and as a, as a garden, and the rest of the world is a jungle. this find it. so he thinks in philosophical terms, and he knows he knows that he's correct. that in fact, the united states has deprived itself but also its western allies and its allies anywhere in the world from any kind of legitimacy to, uh, to international law, to,

uh, conflict resolution. i mean, the fact that, uh, the uh, we deal with b to for the 3rd time, not doing any sort of political decisions that could be to personalizing the, with being with israel. a brother of she is the to, we need you to human a hey you to see inspire to steve. and bob and children are dying from hunger in northern goes up and people are dying and there was, is in the girls as should yet the united states still found that objectionable. so how would you just be probably that based on the international law? how do you just divide that one on, based on political expediency or necessity? there is no moral legal, ethical, or political justification to the behavior of the united states as the u. s.

legitimacy since its allies world, all of the rest are going to sink as well. all yeah that's, that's definitely true. the u. k is so i'm mentioning the possibility of limiting some parts to the israeli military because they see the historical wind blowing against them. you know, line or you know, j a joe biden, you know, even on his best days is uh, is a bit confused, and i'm being generous here and it's been released to the media that he has some quite disparaging things to say about fee is rarely prime minister netanyahu words i can't pronounce on this program, but you could well imagine the most powerful man in the world is being pulled around by the nose, by the israeli prime minister. and the only thing the boat abiding can do is swear line. oh, i would like if i could to, to call my segment of the natives are clueless or view from the fish bowl because i represent to you what is happening, what i see here in my country. i know what is the for the west,

but i'll speak for american media by 1st question that i have to ask everybody and you get them and perhaps maybe can help me with this. why do we use the term ceasefire of the you, you, it, that americans believe is somehow how mouse isn't this, that there is a battle going on in there. there is just firing that. that is real to say we will stop firing when you home us retreat from your miles of tunnels india. and i'm thinking to myself, there is no, it is unilateral, we don't need a ceasefire. one could argue just stop firing. it's like if i take you hostage and i negotiate to cease fire, the police are going to say we have a no, no, it's you, you've taken this. so that's the 1st thing. the 2nd problem we have is americans and american media still don't understand the term genocide. we have to change this . they're taking a railroad cars and house rich, and that is true. but we also very quickly have to explain. i see, see, 1st is i c,

j. i am still trying to explain to people what that means. we use the terms interchangeably. so again, from the fish bowl here while you generate gentleman live in a more rarefied world, i am trying to explain the scenario and rudiments of what's happening basically, according my fellow americans with reality. yeah, big line or if i can go to our guest and they root allen, you know i, i don't want to sound perverse or anything, but i think it, they set up gas chambers and gaza. it and it still wouldn't change the american administration's position. that's how, how pathetic and terrifying our time is right now. go ahead now and and be root to thank you for having this. i agree, i think it is indeed pathetic and i think it's good to try and understand. what are the powers in the us that are actually benefiting from this situation? because that's definitely the team of not us society that is benefiting from the

dentist side. one of the events that can help us understand what's happening is when we look at a talk, which of these, for in the lobby in the us, they are spending tens of millions of dollars literally by us representatives, side the us population are electing them. but then a pack is stealing them from the people who elected them to present them. so we also have, we can also see what's happening with the, the capitalist, the nature of the us, for example, in the arguments industry that they called the defense industry. much like the i d . s, and the chief of luck sees which makes hundreds of millions of dollars. a said in october 2023 north call for an end to the aggression. talking problems can only be solved with weapons and we are ready to deliver these weapons. on the other hand, us society is definitely not benefiting from all this by then to terry and repore.

the design is for using so for when buying says the jews are not facing the us. instead of sending a very bad message to us do isn't about us non jews. so really the u. s. society needs to be freed from this capital. yeah. but i know how it's really i thought you got the idea to terry an issue. i think i'm glad you brought that up because ramsey, you know, we have the current american representative to be united nations. i think on her 1st day she was saying something like the un has to investigate racism in america, which kind of surprised a lot of people being the ambassador, the united nations. but the united states is protecting one of the most racist societies in the world. israel, i assume they, as i mean this course, addictions maybe are obvious to you and to be and, and hopefully to an increasing number of americans as well. but it still hasn't mean that we just stood with the warning clauses in the united states. i think it's really what can be kind of brought down to this on the very day that that the

american representative and the u. s. february. one of the security council, february 20 on that very day in which he was ordered to be taught. and a julia visited english and demanding an ink uh, basically into this we can do site in gaza and logo is correct. this is, i mean, it punch as soon as we get inspired back, if this weight is on the fire and at them. so it's not 20 a ceasefire in a traditional were sort of says, but with that very day, why did, has actually been this is more than he was, has been to do a fund raising a party for if by the pro is, will be in it who is giving a lot of money to the democratic party so, so this is what it really comes down to me to a my pleasure ends with ramsey. we have to be clear to be the same billionaires that you're making reference to. they give to republicans and the democrats, because these se, billionaires, they have only one issue, is real, okay? that's what i and, and of course, you know, if you,

if you don't go along with you get primary in both parties, okay? that's how dangerous a such a wait, pathetic it is. you know, line. well, it's interesting is that we've heard the term to state solution. i mean, all of us on this panel and much of our audience have heard this all of their lives . ok. but isn't it interesting line, or there are no states stopping the genocide? you know, they talk in a 2 state solution is the ideal which i think is a fraud at this point, but no state. and we can't even say, yeah, men because of who these don't control all of them in button b. this, the international state system is not doing anything to stop in genocide, which because due to the conventions after the 2nd world war, they were, they were, it was an income incumbent upon them to do that line on yeah, yeah, absolutely. a couple of things here. but if, if i go to add another development that i'm hearing, because if it were not for the internet, if it were not for new platforms with new voices. and by the way,

the gentleman people that i'm listening to who before october, the 7th i, i would have not spent a moment listening to them. now i'm finding unique solidarity. i came upon vanessa redgrave in 1978, accepting the academy award. and she made a statement about zionism and israel as i listen to this, and you would have thought that i remembered the time that this was the most read talking about palestine, yasser arafat, the po, oh, what kind of a demented by, well, i know we betray our age, i remember it to keep going and patch patty tri epsky, who wrote from network came right afterwards and excoriated her for that. here's the interesting part. what she said is my old to what we're hearing on a regular basis. and very quickly, i'm here recently, which is i have not heard before. of american jews coming force and

d marketing and separating the notion of judaism save americanism. but zion is, for the 1st time i have never heard people trying to de mark aid to fax that, that the, the acceptance of the design and the reason we do not necessarily conflict. the other is like non non overlapping, magisterial. i mean, let me get out and, and here before we go to the break or that's such an excellent point here. you know, ellen, you know, lionel is talking about something that i grew up with. and we were all taught to be zine. is that a that was a but we weren't aware of really what that meant. okay. and now when you get to a point where genocide is being committed, you have to stand up and say what you believe and what you don't believe. and, you know, joe biden says he, so scientists, okay, so he supports this. see, this is the, the, the barriers that we're, we're, we're encountering in this conversation. go ahead out. and before we go to the break, and i think that's just using the expression

a 2 state solution implies that it's a solution. it's actually not the state of as well as a states that defines itself as a said exclusive to do that is the original problem. and it can only leads to a state cleansing and genocide as what size we're seeing today. so all the states and the world would say they support to the to states non solution are really for now and hold that thought. unfortunately, we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine state without the the

in russia land a vast resources found less potential for civilization. this has been to the news, the news from the bushes, fixed shooting system countries, most exciting accomplishments in one venue. so let's see of what we're going to do with the pursuit can use this is what a liquid pardon. do you want me to be able to teach this as the rush? it can be in the email because i have to mention that almost a week, maybe a backup knows not to meet as you go to the next stage to the new, into the, into the wiring interview. stop the induction. the addition to the end of the sample for

the one to be for the the welcome back across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to remind you were discussing palestine the hey, let's go back to ramsey in room. you know, the number of balls so it's, and the level of deception is really quite incredible. coming from the elite and from their minions in the media here. that number one, the, the american ambassador to the united nation, she said the united states voted against bell julian resolution because of the ongoing hostage talks and plans which is patently untrue. i mean, you can watch international media and the guitar is saying, no, it's not going away. it looks bad. okay. i mean, that was on

a false premise. and again, we were, we, we mentioned um the 1st part of the program, the 2 state solution. i mean, here you have american officials, tony blinking, who comes out like an undertaker every time he speaks to the public, you know, i say the united states police and a 2 state solution and then the same new cycle. and then yeah, what is it? i spent my whole life just uh, just destroying that possibility. and then you have the israeli government or the kinetic going, i'm having a vote, which is meaningless on an international level against any possibility of us to take the state solution. but nobody in western media show is that how the to conflict, go ahead a single day. i mean, it, it's the number that it can also, the american invasion will be a lot when the w bush was blamed for having a plan for war. we went towards but not having a pet for peace. he came up with the road road map to peace and we know how that's worked out in in palestine and as well. and i think this has something very similar

to it. we all tried to create a distraction from the war by creating this platform in which we are supposed to engage and to talk about the possibilities and what kind of state is it going to be of a state to a hopeless states or it's going to be um, this arm do an area and a lot of people said they are engaging in a conversation and you will have $2300000.00 people who are starving to death. so i think the discussion about the state is the solution has nothing to do with these and it has everything to do is to basically have a smoke somewhere else as, as will finishes is doing his side against the palestinians. many people are engaging that with the winning good or, and what seems to be, what is it a really dangerous political joy that is we've aimed at again, just as creating instruction. you know, a line. oh it's, it's, it's very, as we are speaking right now. the israeli government is made it clear that it will

go into rafa and the, the, it's really government wants some kind of plan for the protection of civilians. i, i have no idea where they're, what they're talking about, where are they supposed to go? and again, they're telegraphing what they're going to do, and the only thing the american administration can do, and it's western allies is wag their finger. we better not do that well, considering everything that they've done today. why wouldn't, why wouldn't they stop line on, you know, peter, i'm a lawyer by training and one of the things we do in contract law is the notion of severability when, when something is part of a contract doesn't work. you don't throw the whole thing out. you just pull that out and you separate the part of it. it doesn't work. there are many, many moving parts to this issue here. and the other day prince william said, i believe something rather rational. he said something about we have to stop the killing in gaza. the reaction from the western media was what kind of heretical

nonsense is this? so i'd like to say again from the 1st bowl where i am to say before we talk about tuesday, wednesday, what, whatever, let's talk about. is it, do we all agree that it's a good idea to stop the killing of innocent people? men, women, children not not to abandon the fight against terrorism or how much? no, no, no, no, no. but just right now, let's start with that. and a friend of mine, very astute actually said, i thought should, can we do that? and they said yes, this is like an all or nothing idea. yeah, i guess it goes back gentleman to the idea that people don't really understand what this is because they imagined as a war with sides and military's in uniforms and take the high ground. when in fact, this is an incursion, this is something that will, he doesn't have a definition. it's a, it's a state against either of people, an idea it, it does not have any historical antecedent. so we have to explain very simply,

that stopping killing, just does human as humans to humans. this in no way ab negates the responsibility that people have to stop terrorism and, and, and say that i mean water but that, but that, that approach there, if i can go to alan and, and be rude we, we have to kill as many as possible. so we can stop killing. i mean that's what it sounds like to me. yes, definitely. i think that's our induction in itself is a tool that has to be used for political projects. it's either a design is political project or project of genocide or the policy and project, which is a project for a secular and democratic college student and state. so we're not against the use of force in itself. we are against the concept of a racist project and for its anti jesus, the democratic project. well the, the only solution ramsey, you're the ultimate expert on this here is that they are historically we have

already come to the solution. and it's a one state solution where everyone must be treated equally icons, lionel. and i can say that as americans, you know, i remember i was small, i was small, very little bit. i do remember jim crow. okay. and you have to do it. you have to come to terms where everyone has to be equal under the law. now, rumsey, we know that because of design is, and that is impossible, but that's why we need to get rid of zionism. that's exactly right. i think when we talk about the one state versus 2 states, it appears as if we're discussing a technical issues, what is doable? what is politically plausible achievable, but it, as lot of t, it's really is not a bad solution. it's about the reality that you have to groups of people. one that is empowered on the arm that supported by the united states. one that is this empowered marginalized and is just basic basically serving the will of the victim for the last 75 years. in order for us to achieve this relationship,

we need to examine the ideology. definitely don't want to dismiss in the 1st place . jewels are up pushes most things i've lived in that last for a long, long time. and they were just fine. designers arrive late and i just actually the 20th century, created this ideological mess, this racism of this horrific feeling of being that is yet to stop. also out of the, see if we need to get rid of zion is an entirely, in order for us to even start talking about the possibility of coexistence line. oh it, what is it in terms of the united states 1st. so they will go globally how, how is this affecting the biting presidency? because, you know, globally, i think, you know, as things stand now as we speak, this is the legacy of the bible administration, a genocide. okay, now i, you've been coming on every week and, and, and demonstrating to us americans thing very differently about that because you keep going back to the face bowl. what is it in terms of his legacy now going into

re election? and that's the critical part, because up till now, the democrats and republicans have been 2 sides of the same coin. they have been in lock step, and there has been absolutely no political repercussions whatsoever. if you were to stray from this the moment that the real democrats younger, the l. c. brand, the bernie sanders, right? the group and contingent, the moment they get some type of, of, of locks that were i've got a hold on this. and the moment it becomes a political issue that's when it changes. but right now both sides are identical. and for reasons i will never understand this gets a frame. yeah. we'll, we'll talk about nobody with me, but we won't talk about gonzalo laira, we'll dog about and joe julian hassan. but not really. and, and how, how this is the suppression, by the way. and,

and we allow the suppression of information to, to occur. the moment it stops the moment somebody somewhere, whether it's gavin newsom or whoever the democratic nominee is going to be. who says we have to separate ourselves from the other. presume now many donald trump who is in lock step, the moment that happens, that's one of the changes. yeah, but the in, i can't wait for it, but let's not hold our breath at the same time. no. and now on your end, be rude. if there is every indication, considering the mass meant of israeli forces on the lebanese border that uh, there could be another attack on lab and on. this is not the same as it was before . but how worried are you? because you're in be rude. what you're within hitting a they, these really is easily and they've done it many times before ahead bay would of people in love and i'm worried that netanyahu and his government will expand the more north i am the person in the another freight. okay. um,

i know that's as long as this really exists, so we are in danger. so the investment of troops is just something, it's an immediate danger, but the danger has always been there. unfortunately, the new society is not trained new registries face to extract because we are also suffering from our own regime, which is also a colonial constituents addressing, which also politicize is identity. so unfortunately, we are fragmented. we are military capable of facing it through we have and we had succeeded in 2002006, but we need a political program full, so 11, and that's united 1st and face of all the danger. you know, every lebanese person that comes out my program is, has the same thing. you know, we're not afraid. okay. it's so good to hear that. okay. because we're not happy with the unique experience features you a lot around. so we have about a one minute and 30 seconds left. i've been doing this with line on now for week after week after week. can you give us any help, please, please give us some hope. you know, the hope comes from the people a 100 nearly

a 140 days of constant is 80 war dependents to me and people are not giving up. they have every intention and we like to continue resisting as they have done for many, many years. in fact, this patrick, this leads us to be american racism, of these vehicles. oh, because the palestinians wouldn't give up as long as dependents to me is do not give up and the want the with or was the whole for the past. but it, isn't it really interesting you said, because, you know, the, as, as an american, you know, the whole issue of race is constantly being brought up as you comes from the left almost all the time here. but you know, it, one thing that i would like to see happen is that if you want to talk about race, talk about it in a real sense because if everything is racist but nothing is. but if you know, then, then you have to examine the foreign policy and you know, i've said, you know, so many attempt for years now. if americans only knew what their foreign policy was

supporting and supporting a her risk regime. and israel go ahead, finish up for us ramsey. oh, absolutely i, i think that the, the issue of racism has been reduced of love football as a subject to political manipulation. and it has succeeded for political reasons for days, especially the democrats of the u. s. and so forth, but the actual research that exist, oh, people being killed because they are the room of this city. the room raised the wrong skin color, the little religion. it's happening right now and people are dying and they found goods. it's just, it's not, it's not a political slogan, it is something that is very real and, and it can be addressed and should be addressed. and it's all incumbent upon the us government to do that. i don't have a whole lot of gentlemen. that's all the time we have. i want to take my guess in room in new york and, and be rude. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at archie. see you next time. remember prospect the,

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