the, the, i'm action or time, so you're welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world, from the u. a. on the 2nd down of the 3 of the beginning of russia's defense of the people of what was eastern ukraine, subject to ethnic cleansing up to the u. s. e u u. k backed made, and qu in 2014. it's also it'd be in a week when the usa, again, vito to un security council resolution to ends of the nato nation of genocide in gaza. and that there is one publication that is synonymous with exposing global war crimes. it is wiki leaks the subject of an appeal in the london court. this week will our interviews with its found a julie and assange before his torture by british authorities in london are available on our rumble channel. joining me from the caribbean is friend and

supporter of julian assange, the legendary pink floyd front man, roger waters. roger, thank so much for coming on. it's a sad time since i think we mentioned in person. so many of us on just supporters of have died is mentor uh, gavin mcfadden, vivian, westwood. most recently, our friend john pilled, you your reaction to this week's judgements in london or non judgment in london as well. yeah, we don't know. we don't know if there's going to be any kind of a church. well we, we wait to say, i've been following the proceedings as fast as i can. gave them the, it's in a tiny cool room in that huge building code number 5 is the smallest score and that's go up and there's only 15 the books of the public about in thank goodness. one of them is craig marie, who is writing 30 detailed reports that when i read yesterday, and it is such a team have been texting somehow. obviously it is such

a sumptuous depends. mr. fitzgerald and others have made a compelling case, but then they wish to make to compare that case. not stage hearing should last more than 5 minutes. you know, you should go in and say, oh, this is not guilty of any crime. lab. press no, go, you know that, and that would be the end of a box of books then they'd, these people don't believe in the rule of law. hey, absolutely. john. they believe in the ruling across all the building to us. and they believe the servants of the ruling class, and they were do well ever say until and that's in your introduction just now you told him about goals are and then what's going on there and so support. but it is becoming more and more transparent to ways that people have this beautiful planet that we call a day off fluid building process. you know,

obviously including where she she neck and kissed all around the. okay. and by the spring come in victoria, i knew that blah, blah, blah, the list is in this and the piece looks it will do my best savings now. and this method is a national make agent here in dubai. i mean, does a huge thing here. julia massage and the newspaper and belatedly, even some of those newspapers in, in britain which according to the un special rep with your own georgia meals meltzer contributed to the psychological and the full mo, you and relatives contributed to his mental torture. well, i'm sure i'm sure there's nothing trickier about the fact that he's no, i'm cool that he said as to how well to kind of go into well, well, psychologically, even to try and wash the proceedings on closed circuit tv. and if you think it's,

it's the highest security prison in england, he's been locked up in solitary confinement for 5 years. and he is committed no crime. say one small bio infringement. the carrier is a tub of less than one year when she's 15 times over already. i mean the is completely stands right. but the last thing as well, when being hit from several sides, julian's case of this, this block. but there's also now, if, if you watching closely what's happening at the i c j now, where com, she often come shelf the culture of the country is coming in a day. me, a designer stands name entity, the state of israel. so it's shameless side of the indigenous people kind of stuff . i a all the way back from the old the i'm from the jo river to the mediterranean

sea. the what's cool kind of stuff for 1947 to g 8. and they still is in a box in all of our hearts is still kind of starting a day. and the sun is density of the state of israel haven't go and trying to administer a bit. so they tried to claim some of it, and they have acted in a huge way. and the whole world is now saying, no, you israel all a failed state, you failed to live up to the basic risk of being human beings. and we condemn you for a man now. now, goodness for the late that the wonderful south african scalars. okay, good. next, that's a pull that is now coming from the rest of the world. i. so my friend lou, the gone back during my to lovely fat and gustavo pictures,

what else in columbia and they're blowing out of the woodwork now to condemn. i'm quite right. they said, so what's gonna happen? i've been, i mean, well yeah, well check the when i was a young man, i look forward to dr. future where we loved the less. the 1st and 2nd world was and realize that we had to share this plan. i had the we have to use the united nations but diplomacy? no but conquest. i know the hatred let me know for increasing house stair of the cape. no baking, bigger and bigger at boss, for cooperation with britain and abstain written of a britain the players. because it's obviously it's true, this is, this is exactly what the russians have been changes. this is for parents and has been saying, since we have a 2007, when you start from the microphone and say, we've got to talk to one another. we have to start diplomatic relations because we

have to guarantee what about this stuff is irritated. they tried to save this to the americans, and they told him to shop at f o. that's where the brain things start to finish in civil. okay. 17 just uh, well clearly, so clearly as, as you imply, i mean, yeah, israel, the most dangerous place for jewish people to, to live clearly in the world. now. i suppose given many, c is, is a failed to stay. but back to julian then, what was he like in september? i mean this was just ahead of your tour or a mid stilwell tool, which in which you raised the subject of gauze and julian designs worldwide. how was julia so i asked them because i saw pictures of you leaving in the circle. britton's guantanamo in london. bell mush and your little dashing face. and i think

everyone was shocked by how shock used to appear to be well, ever since the end of september. so 2 months ago now, i was show you go into that huge room and you see, and it's full of little tables with color chairs. and it wasn't until i've been in that for something. oh goodness, the pretty nice little say in red chairs, and i guess say in blue chairs from when it was time for us to leave the show in the whistle white, but certainly the room was full of uniforms and they should have, i should listen to him you and certainly they were a room full of ever cheap blue sheets along 2 people waiting to me and all the prisoners were sitting in the red seats motionless. not something is allowed to move a muscle until o visits have left. and there was emotionally,

very crippling. i have to say, i mean imagine being locked up in solitary confinement for fun. it's to speak to. if you've never committed a crime, i'm in it's young to imagine i. so we know we'd go over all those optimistic failings that we have with the apps and government up to the 2nd. well, the post world dream is gone, bloomed to smithereens by margaret, that for reagan and tony blair above this now. and there were more of the coming coasting, but she should not catch the each of them. they have blown out. we have a of a feud shipped to this drug where we co operate, but to spend the read and continuing to do it and they will go up and do it again until we the people stop the we all, we are having a problem to go with it now and you see a 1000000 people in the, in

a 1000000 people in the streets to best ball rooms. so how it's a thousands and loved and people in chicago and she and truck drive and stuff truck drivers in chicago with the stadium. black. why are big trucks? you think, you know what, this is the people saying, you know, is, you know, or so will it never get truth was think scouts not just of the, just to, with the judge is in louder, but through the thick skulls of the recent max of this. well, well, what can i hope so, but we, we conscious match them. we have to stand up and show and show i so young each who i went to visit the julian waves in september with clear watson, i am the one the flowers flowing with a loud voice and i will make the daily speeches in the west tread daily is that

how we fish as. busy we may goodness, we have cleared a daily and we fabulous bird fox and we have the both of being on the show. well, yeah, but i mean, just back to julian this on himself. i mean, glen gambled who runs a show also and rumble like like ours, as well as, as being real. cause said, i think you imply they have successfully destroyed the greatest. you have a list of times yearly and assange already. they made the example of him to the well to make everyone frightened of ever exposing war crimes a game in the way that julian assigned to the job done in the sense that when the so maybe by them is being appealed to by congressman that they've destroyed him completely. i mean i, i found i just quickly, i mean, i know, i mean to be eating you. i found him so clever, so brilliant about his analysis of geo politics. and he reminded me of g o

v dot actually you, i'm interviewed before and i know just that was the book. the go with the book that he was clutching when the british police went in and then bought, kidnapped him from asylum in the ecuadorian embassy in london. yeah. well, let's hope that is that gone when you saw him? could he read? well, that's oakland. remoe was wrong. and the julian, it's released, we're cover from this incredible injury that the ruling cross and the state of done to him. i don't mean i haven't seen inquiries be but my how great it doesn't the good. obviously, i don't believe the people can pull g to represent may and you, grad daily and yeah, spend the fuck is all the rest of this are doing? there's a committee. these are the crimes. this is an open, right in the middle of the high street. the british establishment is committing

a huge ride in the royal coats of justice in london, as it did in front of better. it's disgusting woman and joined us and with the old to judge the world of 3 age opinion. after receiving a $158.00 pages of kathy up to link below, and as to why julian, this should not be extra darcy to america in the previous or just through it showed which the page scroll of the orders are coming down to the boss to the main clause, and we'll cover these buggers to tell the truth, which was good god, what do you think? i the mike half of the people were allowed to tell the truth about things have gone out of that. yeah. oh, the drum, you haven't got anything employee, you know, so you know as a bad, they're not good things. them,

we always be bad things. roger, i'll stop you. the more from the legendary pink floyd from man after this break, the, the really, it was story. they're, he's booked as a couple of them the border that's all right and yourself. originally, you spoke to the senior boy menu on the show. any of the gentle facility been spin yet periods, which are likely to escape for those that are there any vision isn't a new book? i probably didn't even ground it up. still bundle ski at the at the site. the goal to smith avenue. yeah. that is, that side of it is leveled there. they use

a c assessment ready this form with year of experience of but i will say in nearest the blue bush and you for 90 percent of the time is happens or somebody to pick a day. it's nice because you have to just catch the senior the, the, the welcome back to going on the go,

and i'm still here with the legendary pink floyd from and roger, what is you consistently bring up the paramount importance of class? do you think there was a sudden i even the amongst these lawyers perhaps is not even due at the will courtroom on some of those lawyers because they said it was plausible genocide and didn't need your vehicle for uh, for possibilities to stop for the mass getting to stop which they might be unable to. it was a sudden now even in thinking, we had jeffrey robinson casey on a number of times on this rule that somehow they could see. obviously julia is on just isn't. but the courts will somehow do that job, that there is just as it was, they were not even like maybe something i eve about the world code. it's very naive to believe that they believe in the law. they don't, they make it really clear that they say we done. error is exactly like kids stop. i remember she saw i talk about things of the good news or to condemn the

state of israel for re janice is committing and has been committing since 1948 and certainly since 1967 i the i terraces on the palestine the just say s no, no, no, i'm probably not going to say that we know what we're allowed to say when i say, and we're not saying anything against each or john when that a crappy film director who makes terrible propaganda. states of interest. he may want, for some paper, could be added to some anti competing against anti semitism, shown where the power but direct direct to the film about me training that i was and that the semi are you taking them to court? we by joan, where it goes to come on, the bbc, panorama accused propagandist. you bother anymore or given, given the incentive just so now i can stop and the like. the bbc's kind use all is

british media operators who in the habit this is country where the you end up with you as a torch. it goes on that torturing julian is a, they call it the israel, i'm us war, they don't cool it. the genocide, the village is my through the city, so the time is around speed lines through it's changed since day. why and designed us for lines for that is for 100 not 100 years may be 670 right to use before day one. if you take my good sense, 1948 stay what, that's what they do. it's todd is based on lives as repeated by going to my right, the mid fifties alone, without people for people with never. those kind of blogs is just they like, apply and lie and live life. thank goodness, but no means big cups. the people with much clearer brains than may contain through this kind of stuff and be calm interest stated that, say it again,

back to the mazda, the same back. this to it, what 2 matches, say, in practice, the children massage is, know, getting a fair trial. he never did, he said 3 or 4 of them. now they have no interesting all the powers that be in london. i'm washington and they're the ones putting districts. no, there's no interest in them or so, and name it does the state of israel and they've said so again and again. and they're saying, so even more now that you know, came out said i have given a flying staff what the i c j says, oh wow. and the bodies fix all of the models of this sensor all this week. and i gave them all a match. so there is do it because we walk the land we boat, which one to the web will going to get it and we're not going to stop now. well, have it the art sheet,

cherry says we could. we don't care about in spanish though. we never did boys wrong, would you be the final solution? this is the us and best the ends of a call that you criticize rushes roll and ukraine in the strongest terms of the app, the security council. but what is the scaling, russ? a phobia and why some who clearly shows all of that already with palestine. joseph, who shows all his already with julia, designed to bear a son's 10 novel ne, i'm helix itself is exposed out of only was backed by the national endowment for democracy previously. is that even declining now the, this theory, russia, russell, phobia hysteria in britain as western europe realize that they're not good as an excuse not going to wind. it's still good doubles. take you pig. you lot. the big of the, i think it was gary,

is that the big of an i you tell about, but you just tell it often. and often after a while people will believe people being persuaded by the powers that be the valve . they was a democrat and a great believer in freedom of speech impaired, they would say no, but only was allowed see left school display of display a much when people would swastikas would then so does. so let's use horses are slow . obviously the current regime in key at the site that will not change to a man, but this a leading that direction and i have certainly controlled by a right. we log all the boxes. yeah. pro plate. what, what do you say the maybe savanski is not complete? because back in 22, he was trying to make peace of the rest of the embarrass. johnson fluid slapped his

registered city colt like peace. go out there and fight. we'll give you the good. we'll send you a few boxes. okay. yeah, but we're gonna be ok to give you a new bull. just change some value on the side here. make sure that you've got an s to run into when it's so low. but in the meantime, we're just trying to, we can brush it, we have no interest in your country. oh, your people. oh, that'd be please say, where in the world we go and i'm punch about. we're trying to expand our info. when we've taken over russia, we're gonna take of the show and as i mean, just so it's been to actually because ross, you're in china and iran one to a to invade the west and you're clearly but some of you mentioned far as johnson and tucker carlson alleging that johnson wanted amelia and quit for an interview with him. johnson apparently denying that the chucker got this message from the

johnson people. what do you, what did you make of johnson and john and his schooling, tuckered, causing a traitor for interviewing that he may. i please you and who said he wanted negotiations, which of course, and then he made illegal in cuba, but presumably, uh, nature nation country could start negotiations. i was it, it engenders in may, are part of come of respect for chuck colson, who is now independent. and so what was interesting about, obviously these interview with the chain was very, very good. some of my friends who about check, for instance, said he, so coaching went on for a bit lower now to the 1st question about giving her 25 minutes to them, but it is true is the ukraine does what you do. i call you roger and interviews. i mean, it just sat down, but anyway, anyway, good, good for tucker. i'm good for the fact that he interviewed. what am i talking about

the whole long strip of savings as being insane from the stock during the 20 while election when, whenever it was the, when they were old, i to use a, you know, when a pillory was. hi, bushing song just around the present to see stitching your magic flows by julian is on the bed. you as well. what we do now is a kind of a hard drive. they certainly have nothing to do with brushes. there was no rush and the packing of the d. n. c competes is going on. everybody knows that out, but it will get struggle to work to comply with rush or what but any signs is, any way i like to particularly exam is always the same story. that they do it, there's a way of reducing the overton windows or they take minds of the fact that by the democrats and republicans in the country, the united states of america are destroying not just the united states of america

anywhere else. they've got to, but they're destroying the climate. hey, how doing it. and the conversation is never allowed to drift to that, but so russia bowed yet is perfect. you always point is on. now it's the immigrants, it's going to, it's the border now about how this is usually, it's always a records. it's the mexicans of the gods a mile on. so there were durham, so the motion of school on the jews doesn't matter. no, it's so long as you conduct, but the attention of your domestic population away from the fact that life is miserable for them. so you have to find the culprit, and that's what they do now. so this is about a match. why they, some of them hate tucker carlson, speaking to polluted pollutants, may be many things. i don't know him, i don't know him, but he's not too big and he's no, a months. it just isn't. i mean,

if you listen to, so maybe he's just protected and the body to make a big thing about about it is absurd in particularly is you a cruise ship of julian or so i'm sure he's one of the great minds of the 20th and 21st century was the most important human being so as to why we should be building statutes. did you you saw not trying to kill him like we are. so we'll oppose for dream come back up very well hope so, cuz i have children and grandchildren and i want them to be a world for them to grow up. and oh, could it be or could it just finally, could it be was on china and iran and given the uil concerts, sell out all around the world. is it clear that your kind of behavior is an artist? is not appreciated how, how are you surviving the constant attacks for defending people,

like julian assigned the people of guys of the people of jerusalem, how they used arriving via tax because you've been smid all around the world. they've tried to come to you everywhere. so yeah, she too is no comfortable but okay, what about that? i don't care mine, but the soul, those children in augusta be murdered by them as israel is i'm that's what makes it difficult for me to sleep at night. and every morning i wake up in my inside by and there is just, i guess, why has they doing this? why are people that about why is that old school? one of the security council be chilly? the security council resolution for face by now to carry on really, you know, why are they doing what, what did they quote to gain?

well, obviously a bigger slice of cake. and unfortunately, these actual, the united states of america were so bad, so that they won't share it with their own working process. they well, the change chest, them for the ones who paid for the elections. and what was by the congress, the one super bus is for them and them a lot. and the american people are going to have to wake up and they going to have to rebel against it. and they are going to have to have that emotional revolution where they recognize that in the capacity but m o, c, for chinese, in guatemala, said venezuela, and mexicans and dave, with the english language to scroll off by to the bar dates, the older brothers and sisters irrespective lives there in this and listen to your religion without knowledge. that is the only way for them. that is the only way

forward, the only learn from the river to the c 8 quote, right on the engine that low, full every walk. well, we invite them into what we we invite lady told me, is greenville to us own void to the un security council on roger. what is, thank you, the bank, numerous and thoughts of, of the show of continued condolences to those surviving the killing and all nature back was we will be back on monday. would professor glen decent on his new book, the green war, and the your region was order until then you can keep in touch, why with less central media, if it's not sense and you will continue to out channel going on, going to be all normal. don't come to watching you in old episodes, i'm going underground see monday, the,

the no matter how hard it may be for our european colleagues to accept this conclusion is that they are not the only loses of this conflict. because the european union itself is merely the main one, the following of the un general assembly of utilization. so security council meeting, new to monk. let's see. i'm of the 3 of russians special, 90 field formation, bosco's and boy to the group says that is not finding a claim that is suffering from that confident, but also your place has been described in by the you the washington. i'm russell. impose a new wave of sanctions, not only on most could put on individuals and entities around the world.