the, the, [000:00:00;00] the polish problem is we've posted the break into the national parliament during the 2 to protest to thank you, environmental policies that they say off. we're pulling that into the street also ahead. sylvia does not need any but a shop from list and board. india does not see any certificates. are dictation from the west and work put regarding its pad had died with russia or any other country fault that might do a spokesperson for in his ruling cause he says, an interview with the policy that has come to reserves,

the rights to independence and in the defiance of the pressure from the west, the us court sizes, tesla, apple, and all the tech companies rejecting claims that they support child labor in cobalt mines and africa. also a has value in this slide. what would be to define the we to our region. this is why we've always been concerned about the proliferation, more arms and legs. dikarious foreign minister expressed those concerns. it was also question about the guns from the ukraine conflict getting into the hands of terrorists in africa. nigeria is now strengthening the military corporation with russia. the

just gone 6 pm here in moscow. lots coming up over the next 30 minutes. but we will begin with breaking news when poland farm is protesting. in the national capital lab reportedly broken into the parliament building. some of the demonstrators were seeing clashing with the police. the way it's been a wave of protest by agriculture work is throughout the european union in recent months. the outrages focused on a new environmental regulations at farmers sale. crippling that industry published demonstrates as are also seeking their final cheap imports of rain from nearby ukraine. previously, certain border crossings were blocked by protesters and we believe to come from ukraine was dumped on to the highway. while enjoying the biopsy correspondents for re nicholas at eva,

hit in the studio as well as steven guy chick who's a professor at the institute of european studies in bel. great, thanks very much for both. coming in to the see, jo, a story that's developing right now. marina, we're just going to start with you. what is the whole issue this? the problem here at the moment imposed on this situation has definitely seems to have reached boylen points. it all started, of course, an awesome of last year and not as well polish all former started blocking the board that with ukraine. and their main issue is of course, that cheap ukrainian grain is entering their market and is being sold up for lower prices. and then they are so right in the polish farmers off for suffering and struggling for this. so they want something done now fast forward, so february of this year. and that is when a published pro tests are so things a little bit further polish farmers for our protest. and i should say. and they started blocking border crossings,

which of course escalated things even more and never seems to be looking for a solution here. but no one seems to be finding that we have you crane that is constantly complaining that hey, we are suffering here. please allow our agricultural products to be sold in another country so that we can make money so that the grain goes somewhere. and then you have you countries with the solely poland, by the way, was seen protests in various. so you countries, degrees, we have france, belgium, germany, the netherlands. they're all complaining about the ukranian chief agricultural products flooding the market, and they have less business. so, let's hear what a lot of his lensky have to say about this and the case he's making them put them forward. i believe we must finally find a solution to the situation on that pony sport. i don't mind just going to be on a boat economics and morality alone go. it is simply impossible to explain how the hardships bank, the country can be used in domestic political and strong crazy. well, of course,

a lot of our as a lensky is always having a difficulty to see the other side of the story. and in this case, the other side of the story is, of course, opponents, farmers to kansas. sit there and continue to help you crane at their own expense. and this is what a lot of them are. zalinski fails, understand time and time again. yeah. destiny success. and there's sort of for you in to the conversation at this point. how much of a problem has this been across europe in terms of this sheet? great and coming in on the cutting the farm is with the farmers protest. so is a problem that was brewing for some time. now, even before the escalation of conflict in eastern europe and the 1st it started with the dutch farmers. and then by the end of last year, there was a huge protest from, for the german farmers and the french farmers. and now we see the polish farmers have joined because at the same time while they are, governments are cutting money and are

a tripling basically their own agricultural industry. the grain from ukraine is coming in and it is dumping the prices, which is why the frustration is so high, end of the same time, the people, the general public. but also farmers as part of it are being constantly told that they should be sort of solid base. and so, so with everything we do crane and that therefore they should be against their own interest. marina and take you through what the polish government is responding to this because i actually heard that donald task has been a huge proponent of you creating a huge support that has suggested that he may actually book the roads between public, the new client. absolutely. because at the end of the day, he has to listen to his own citizens. so you can support ukraine all he wants. but at the same time, he needs to be needs to be seen support his own citizens 1st. and there is no way he can do that unless they do something about this cheap ukrainian grain. and right

now he is even considering closing the border we're talking with ukrainian side about temporarily closing the border and closing trade. and i will also talk to polish farmers about this. and such a solution would be temporary and mutually painful. we are the most pro ukrainian states, but we also have the biggest problems in all of europe, resulting from the russian ukranian war. the price of free trade with ukraine is too high, and we can't pay it back. so there is all done. all task says that himself said that they are the ones who are being affected by this the most. so something needs to be done. and in order to avoid these constant protests with which turn violence, as we're seeing already today, he needs to be at least be seen to be doing something, perhaps a temporary and the closure of the border is next. but wedding to see what happens, especially after today when things are clearly heating up there. and stephen, do you see this as being a big flip flop from donald to us, given that, you know,

he's being like, go wrong. you crating the whole time and now he's like, well works. this is very difficult as a hot potato politically in poland. i'm perhaps need to do something i think don't ask is buying time and we should know that his government is really a shaky one. it is standing on very weak legs because the, or if we remember, uh, the, the campaign. uh, none of the sides really had a huge lead. so that is why task has to be very cautious. and he has to show up at least some level of protection on the national interest. where as i think, generally, as i said, he's buying time because the task is a diehard made the supporter. and i don't think he's likely to change his voice. a marina. um, just want to bring you back in. how about the you? they oversee the, the proponents of this policy of introduce the 2022. basically when you create

conflicts started, they scrap the tire of sonya, queen goods that would transiting to the not was this accumulation. as you described, see, we will products flooding the market and the cutting the local farm is price is causing these problems. how as a result, there's also the green deal, the european green deal, which is also not helping form or is that also there are a lot of issues right now when it comes to the agricultural industry in the u. but we're seeing from the us time and time again that they're saying yes, we'll see that there was a problem by a hang on because ukraine needs our help. so yes, you might be suffering now, but it's all for the better. good. but people, the farmers, there are not seeing the changes that just see that their livelihoods are becoming worse and worse and not there's fewer money and that they have produce less that they cannot sell. because again, the oldest ukrainian produce is flooded in the market. so one of the solutions that they're proposing is to find different avenues for the ukraine, ukraine's grain. but again, where are they going to find it?

but at least that is one of the solutions that they're proposing to my elections. most of them to be the best way would be disappointed acquaintance rides. the tents run support to see ports and sun products to countries, whereas ukraine has always traditionally sent its products. what we need for this is a positive approach from ukraine and some cooperation. all ukrainian partners must understand the situation of all fall moses. i know market's kind of stance such a level of supply increase. and like if they say they are, what we need from them is a positive approach from ukraine, while i doubt that he will get it because as we just read the earlier of lot him or is it landscape just constantly asking people to support his country and understand that they need him the most, so please we understand that right now you're suffering, but just hang on to let a little bit longer. and he seems to think that this is going to fly and that people will do this at their own expense. i mean,

these purchase will be going on now for well, over a year, we've seen them across the, you're paying continent. stephen, how do you perceive presidents the landscape accusations against me or so? i mean, we saw this, the huge sending around personal. so was like, oh, we're best buddies. now there's all these accusations flying about regarding this for the protest and also the alleged domestic political implications. this could have. well, 1st of all, the landscape is used to being very spoiled by the western politicians. so she thinks that every demand should eventually be answers positively. that isn't on the statement. what i'd like to be able about and share. uh, but uh, on the other side. uh, this is not the 1st conflict between ukraine and bowl. and especially if they were talking about historical issues because the cranium, nationalism nationalists, the ones that are now being hailed by the official ukrainian and actually by the

last 2 were the ones who historically committed a huge atrocities against the voters, people and solace citizens are now expected to support uh, those who are continuing, basically the policies that was the genocidal for the, for the polish relation and the, the, this and many other issues are let's say 2 points where they are likely to a constantly a 5 to balls. and i think that this will only increase with the call i've solve the ukrainian from okay, i just wanna ask you one more question. do you from the context of ukrainian conflict? obviously we're seeing rush of making these huge and foxes. it looks like you're quite as old, but collapsed when it comes to its defense and it's fighting, it's only thing now. got this other issue going on with the board approach test. how significant do you think these, all i mean these to be going on, as i said,

for very long time. but it feels like it's ramping up. it's causing massive issues on the border between opponent and ukraine. how significant all these border protests in not being rude to geo political landscape of the region. they are very significant because uh, not only fuller citizens, but citizens across europe are sick and tired with the war and are sick and tired with this. totally terry and style of single minded, a view of the ukrainian conflict. and there are costs of the expected to go with the narrative. that is, that is, that is given and to constantly sacrifice for god knows was for things that are very far away from their interest of citizens for, for the interest of their countries and so on. so i do think that this is going to continue and that this pro does will of course, cause a chain reaction in honor european countries. staples, thank you very much. marina as well. thank you very much for talking us through

that story on not breaking news of those protests and the fact that polish farmers seem to broken into the polish national assembly. that was all to correspond to marina acosta over here in the studio, as well as a steven guide tech, who is a professor at the institute over european studies in belgrade of the will. stable on friendly. that's how wind is foreign policy, cheapest summed up relations with russia in the context of the full in ukraine. everyone conducts that relationship based on past experiences. if i look at the history of place, the independence india, russia has never heard of our interest. we've always had a stable and very friendly relationship. and all relationship with most go today is based on this experience. well west them, how is a be noting a deli, to change it stones towards russia, but india has stood for them and it's neutral status. despite the difficulties of balancing financial interests with its international obligations,

the spokes person of the ruling v j party outlined the current stats. a rush, appreciate his student and know you know, face all kinds of lives and then videos. russia, india, for russia, a host of sick to the starting from defense, starting from investment in i drew problems, i saw the strong investment in boy starting the to a boy from russia. the most important point in this is, for india foreign policy. you may not russia old of a very important, please not be any financial from invest in board. india does not see any certificates or the patience from the rest of the work regarding it's at a time with russia or any other kind of default that might be able to continue to do engage with russia to explore those active on energy ohio,

calling off the cream of defense, which has to be got really for long, but one will i some ice on corrected on that. it's just as sometimes one of the she does come across headlines. you see west and politicians judging new tally to put pressure on must go to end the conflict. but i do specifically want to ask you about a new daddy's position. uh, he's a visa, ukraine conflict. i mean, we feel that we're reaching almost a dangerous point. we've got president mark chrome saying that we're not ruling out sending west and troops to ukraine with hair and taps of them, and officials talking about helping ukraine, low up russian infrastructure. you jenny says we want this conflict to be resolved . do you see resolution coming before escalation at this point in time? is the trust of the global piece. the resolution of the conflict is

a team of people is this is not the for any a nation. uh it was all communities basically a country to i still do the fire rather this is the dog, the fire to control the fire. so the ab country, which is a, the steve porter, this car like a lot of investigating the wall sugar device or cause metrics so that both sides are on the d, b and b use. the us federal court has refused to hold several major tech companies liable for allegedly supporting child labor and africa. the case was against the tesla apple, google microsoft, and don't the big ones on it pertaining to cobalt mining operations. in the democratic republic of the congo, the question is whether the tech companies purchasing an unspecified amount of cobalt from a supply chain originating and

d. r. c mines plausibly demonstrates participation in a venture with any one engaged in force labor in that supply chain. we hold that it does not, according to the contains of the defendants had a specific knowledge of from public reports that the dsu cobalt that they were buying with in the vases with glen, pull you me pool as well as other sources was mind, insignificant parked by children's performing hyper does work for $2.00 to $3.00 a day, and remarkably, in many cases, and even less than that, it's up missing details. you are rustic and painful stories of children who have had no choice but to work and access the know minds with in the just the using very primitive tools and to be a bit hands a to search for rocks containing cold or is it still also task with a cleaning the oaks before it is sold, not only all the also being exploited, but also if they face greater risk and, and save time over. many have lift

a t old and when questioned about these pacific practices and their obligation to uphold certain standards. if these company has obtained a release and pointed to the navy come on so such as corporate, social responsibility statements only in the cases did. they seem to recognize the need for great to due diligence and in both cases, no sense of urgency or clean commitment to, to apply checks with to the entire supply chain was expressed is, did. they continue to rely on the fact that they purchased from licensed exports is if we understand that delta not use one of the companies in this case, um, you should a statement saying that it was committed to upholding human rights of where, cuz to out a supply chain which has the um, google, um apple, microsoft and test lab haven't really provided a comment regarding is the issue at hand. and this is a very critical mitchell use. it's in the manufacturing of band fees for electronic

devices and electric vehicles. and even when supporting the results for the 4th quarter and 2023 apples ribbon, you were standing at a to 9500000000, a continued drop off of 4 consecutive portez. and also long ago apple clips did to clean up. it's called the supply chain, but the companies did it wanted to avoid hurting the companies. mine is by cutting them up and it would also only use recycled approval to in batches by 2025 as a part of his input to make or is a uh, products a company useful by the end off of this decade. and while the quotes decision may close this chapter of legal action to gaze, these companies that it highlights the ongoing struggle to ensure human drive. a safeguard in the quest groups, a full full price is a resource has been mid tools within the african continent by these wisdom kinds of

companies. reference top diplomats said gala prof says the un security council is to stacked in favor of western powers. so it must be reformed to adequately represent the global majority. he made those comments after meeting in moscow with his load you encounter pods. the lease of security that we confirmed, our focus on promoting the formation of a more equitable poly centric world order. russia reaffirmed his commitment to fully reflect on the interest of developing countries, including african ones and reforms of the united nations security council. the security council must be reformed by increasing representation from africa, asia, and latin america. western countries are already seriously over represented there. and this injustice, of course, needs to be eliminated for the 2 men, discussed the relations between the 2 countries and said that they would take place,

but on an equal footing. so the guy live role described nigeria as a priority country, as russia develop 6 relations with african nations on the global styles, mr. to guard the nigerian foreign minister praise those long standing relations between nigeria and russia, which he said started in the 1st months off. the analogy of your secured independence in 1913, as i spoke about these relations on the ministry and economics phase, but they also spoke about education probably over writing message was one of the some shed will vision. there was a lot of talk of multilateralism and multi polarity and they oversee like tech support and international issues. the both vend shed the vision for a cease fire in goes up, but also a permanent long standing solution to what's happening in is about in palestine. mr . lever of science and mr to go on. now j v a full is understanding of the roots of

the ukraine conflicts they spoke again about africa itself. and both, ma'am, was speaking about the situation in sit on and the violent say when they supported and or they called for support for the african union initiative to bring the situation that under control old style again now gave you sits in the added style region of africa, this is a reason this plague by a g. how this insurgency is played by instability. now last week now jerry is defense. when is the said that the company simply doesn't have the weapons to fight the on group 7, it caught even by any because so much of defense expenditure and defense exports is getting towards you credit. so i managed to almost came a little bit about they said about the possibility of corporation, but it's the co pay cooperation with russia in terms of owns purchase and also counter terrorism. here's what you said,

with regards to the global conflicts or conflicts, even in other regions. invariably, when there's a surge in the supply weapons, they tend to find their way to, to our region. and this is why we've always been concerned about the proliferation of small arms and light woodlands. we saw something similar happened with the collapse of uh, the government uh some years bikes in, in libya. uh there was uh all of a sudden nationwide sides of uh, of what funds or even fighters and this is something that we are very concerned about and that we seek to address with our partners. the overriding message was a positive one. the overriding message was about the shed. well, vision on multi point lot collaborative multilateralism. as russia strengthens its

relations with african nations on the global south and global ext. well, russian is also given, tentative approval to a new agreement on military partnership with the democratic republic of the congo of the plans for st. joint training of troops on the personnel, as well as engineering and technical support. the draft has yet to be agreed though by the d o. c government. meanwhile, really the of the nearby african nation for one to as lashed out to do an american journalist to try to criticize him for supposedly being impala for too long. president full to call me who has served for nearly 2 and a half decades says the western world cannot define what democracy is. democracy, it is not defined by the west. no. if he does, then all type in is over. the contradiction is the type in,

in the us where we find the countries in the west, the next to that he does. and then they turn around on such a cool thing about this and what it does they have you looked at. so you are telling me, democrats, so therefore, has the impact fictions, whether it is in the west or n, o. s. so, but i cannot leave by or leave with the but fictions. what would the, what many african leaders have expressed outrage of a west and attempts to dictate to they can and cannot have is allies? the probably minister of nisha replied to weston journalist about the growing influence of russia on the african continent by basically saying that the you should go in mind its own business. no one can dictate to us who we should or should not corporate with. we decide our own internal affairs and the european

union should not lecture us but also in europe hot on the heels of saying that he wouldn't really like putting boots on the ground in ukraine. the french president emanuel my call has once again weighed in on the conflict as he compared his european allies to how woods that rhetoric seems to be pushing the german defense minister on edge who said, but what do we have certainly approaching the time. and now europe, when we must not be cowards, we never want to see the dramas to come. the fact that war has returned to us soil, we want 6. the powers that have become on stuff are below, are extending the threat every day. attacking us, shall we have to be meet the challenge of history and match the courage. it implies who can offer more, who is more coverage is who is more, whatever it is, the bottom wants to do more. you have to focus on that. this is what you can really needs the most. we don't need to really uh, from my perspective,

at least discussions about boots on the ground or be more to having more coverage or less coverage. this is something which does not really help solving the issues. we have, or last week my call raised more than a few only for eyes when he said that nature could send it streams into ukraine and not send dylan bells ringing in the capitals of many of phones his allies. and then they were rapid calls for clarification. but on tuesday of this week, the french president was doubling down on his woods, causing washington to once again pull water on the leaves a palace and attempts to cool with passions, crowns words, and then he certainly has every right inability to, to speak for himself and his views, all i can do is speak for president by commander in chief and the president has been clear. we have been extraordinarily strong and leading international efforts

to support you credit for the last 2 years. he's also been very clear since the very beginning of this war there's not going to be us troops on the ground fighting inside you create meanwhile debate to the. a many sending its long range tourists resolves to ukraine still hasn't been put to bed. that's despite the challenge, says refusal to supply them, but his foreign minister seemingly has contradicted because i'm saying that strong consideration must be given before fully rejecting the option we must carefully study all materials that could be used for the defense of ukraine . from my point of view, the actual situation there is very, very clear. the tourist miss. so i was joined k developed by sweden and gemini, and it has a targeting range of up to 500 kilometers. it's a warhead that's designed to penetrate and destroyed d p. barre targets. now, in

a non binding resolution, oscar who then but countries to provide the weapons, the e u. parliament listed the system, this system as one that could help ukraine against russia a little this comes against the backdrop of a leaks, or do you take that expose germany's military top bras, discussing how to help you crane attack russian targets in response activists through the gym and free sacks, any policy you filed a lawsuit against those quotes on tape, a choosing limits, trying to carry out an illegal act of aggression. now with the tension on the story, definitely not dying down. it seems like it might be getting a little bit too much for the defense ministers. next steps, the telephone. i mean, the reason that the phone call could still be recorded in the range of the air force is due to an individual application error. not all participants adhere to the