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in your points, you offered and criticized these old policies. sports together, strip me again for see on the stand of south africa concerning this issue. now, when do you think we should expect the conflict the end? and when we, when i was going to see the 1st results all the area i c j meeting. well, we would like to see the consumer end as soon as possible. we would like to see is royal, comply with the provisional measures that have been ordered by the court. that is why was going back to the quotes to us for this threatening off of those orders. um,

so that we prevent what is now imagine as a segment process with a lot of people of projected to die from starvation. we would live to see the association of hostilities. we would live to see the opening of humanitarian corridors to those who i need off of a few minutes are and 8. that is why we were always as a country. and this is something president. remo 4, so we'll continue to tempt you to use a re, the means of instrument to ensure that we see an end to the genocide that's currently taking place in guys that we see and to the broad to punishment. and the feeling of, of people who are seeking aid like this. so recently in russia now the us has continued to support these roles since the beginning of the conflict is

likely to change the us of africa relations. given that your country opposes us box is ready actions. we have a very strategic political and trades relationship with the united states. within the context of that close political interest relationship. they ease in appreciation that we defy on the number of issues. one of them is the issue concerning the part of the students as, as you particular aged we in engagement and, and discuss ongoing discussions, ways of various counterparts within the united states. and we will continue to do so. um, the teachings that the president boston very fast to uh, follow up president nelson, mandela i those that spend coverage,

ongoing dialogue and engagement and with those that you disagree with the most. and so within the context of that political and trade partnership with the united states, we will continue to voice our displeasure and our discomforts ways. and the stage of is running this behavior towards the furnace unions. and to do so in a constructive manner, in a robust manner within the confines of the partnership and the trades relationship that we have with united states. now, how do you assess the media coverage? all the conflict in the gather strip? what are your main problems that you see if you to see any because it seems that the narrative that is it in for licensing of a play as outside of the mid least start as we can see. but let me hear your view on this as well. you, you do have,

obviously a quite a concentration of focus for boston media globally with respect to developments in the middle east, particularly where it has been happening. and guys that you do have some international media outlets, particularly worse than outlets that has chosen to present ad to present a sort of more uh, full is riley perspective with the coverage and you've also, it has lows, a particular the media houses that originated from parts of the middle east and other parts of the world that have chosen to be balanced in the coverage as well as per trail also that conflicts. and that has allowed people around the world to then have the ability to inform the views and to inform their status with respect to

what is happening on the ground in, in, in further study. we noticed that when we presented our arguments, is that the 1st application that we made to the international court of justice. some of the most prominent global, most indeed outlets chose not to provide coverage and live coverage falls that presentation to, to the court. and we observed that the next day when these world presented its items, and they would have floated low to a low coverage if you lot. and so those us almost at biases that 2 votes that at the end of the day, each media house as uh, its own rights and longitude to detect. and it's a total of decisions and to 10 main was perspectives for trade. decision

new says that and that kind of to, that is given to the point of sitting in story, particularly 5 west and media houses is not to say a treatment that you see elsewhere where these, where they these past conflicts. they are. so media houses referred to better, for example, on the coverage that they provided related to some incidents that are less just taking place in guys. and there's the results also goes bias. so we encourage you to go to the lights of the functions and add to add, reflect the situation as it is on the ground, disturbing and painful as it is. we still have those cottages,

journalist, men and women of the news room that are committed in relating the tools and in delaying the facts as they are with respect to what is happening or wide. uh that is still talking about the media because this is really very critical to understanding what the opinion and understanding what the issues really on the spot of what we have been trying to lay back for the world to see when in now coverage archie coverage. all of these issues wall to wall, like like you said about still talking about the media. why in the old opinion, are a number of advocate in crisis, which of more that consequences done the ukrainian one ignored by the west and media, while the ukrainian prizes is on the fund pages. now the, there are issues and so down the issues in somalia, the set off of that are probably the comb go even the ones that and molly and so

one how does the advocate and public react to such westbound disregard as well? so for the longest time, um listen media outlets have a search to portray the advertising content and in a negative and kind of state or typical manner. when the menus falls over t hung uh um, repairs, as well as general perceptions of the inability to gather and effectively portrayed as, as, as the sort of override in defining. so you choose, falls, falls north of the african continent. so that's the typical by period of time number o, as in a master classic kittens has thoughts to push back of games that betrayal. false false, false the content, and add sorts to elevate. and

a lot of positive uh, features as well as developments that are taking place on, on the african continent. and we've also observed that the coverage that we've seen. and so i moved to the west and media houses next to the appreciation of the complexities on the ground. and then also in those complexities you'll find behind or the close. it's almost the countries and the challenges that, that we face on the continent. i guess this is going to be an ongoing tassel and the ongoing challenge that as africans, we will continuously confront and work on to change them. and then we try to come to an end is portrayed where these conflicts always ensure that that

conflict is presented in a box man. the dead full size to the conflicts i presented, but also that days, appreciation of the complexity and the issues behind that continued to embed the countries on the continent that are doing remarkably well. some of those countries have come out of a history of conflict and, and they pulled themselves out of that history. and they led to like, uh, the development of the own people. and that has an image that has an impact on regional communities across across the continent. and we would like to see more of that portrayal of the african continent as a growing, advancing continental continental that increasingly has embraced democracy and democratic principles. a content and said over time that showed

a strong ability to govern itself and able to add resolve as phone issues. that's that kind of for training, we would like to see posts for far continent and what is encouraging is the emergence of various online platforms that is allowed people to, to reach the old stories that is allowed 2 people to read for themselves and telephone communities into various sections where they operate and, and that's likely advance to the mentions of the various digital and on demand channels. that allows people to be able to share ad content from the hospitals to their neighborhoods and to the countries is old. and so that has created a diversity of, of content that can be consumed above the content that is a lot more positive than what we're seeing

right now. today we, we, we see how in the countries of africa as to how redone the number of western media outlets are being shut down, which according to local authorities spread towers propaganda. now where should we look for the line between freedom of speech and protective national security? yes, it's a um, it's a very um, um, cheap abundance to, to mentee. but it's one that stuff and guided by each country is constitutional principles. i guess if i just sort of slides on my own country side, africa and constitution guarantees, freedom of expression that on to use the media and as well as access to, to information. we have a very robust and very engaging and media. so to

laugh from the president to officials to business need is no, it is a problem is about a new formal score to needs over this is in full for that to measure. and that's something that we accept to be part of our democracy to be pods false while consist no democracy or democratic features if you like. and that's something that we appreciate as part of a growing and evolving democracy. some other countries will say differently based on, you know, that kind of constitutional guidelines that they have in place. we generally prefer, as we'll see, to have a society that's open that can engage openly, registered, engage boyd's criticism as much as it engages, avoids positive issues that are the slats, the performance of government,

and that reflects the leadership off of government. all right, and you spoke earlier about the way western media covers the african continent and how assuming biases is always waved into the story lines and all of that. but basically, if, if the story has to change as to the new rules of engagement, what do you say needs to be done for that to change as well? we have to continue um, advocating full full furnace. we'd have to continue pushing the boundaries with respect to how we, as africans reflected in various global platforms, we have to continue adding of voice with respect to positive developments that we're seeing on our continent. and we have to continue celebrating that humans and

the advisements that we're witnessing across the continent. we cannot allow us else to be forced to forwarded line into a narrative that does not aid uh or support or enable the statement of aspirations as continental is an individual countries across the continent. for example, um you have the recent adoption of the after the free trade agreement, which is going to be a major post to a number of for 10 in corner. is that outrage of signatures uh to the us to that's a very positive development in olga as well as for us, we tend economies for domestic businesses, just as it is positive for, for direct investments, as well as international investors that are going to have different types of

profile content, and that's something we have to continuously talk about for dean was to celebrate. and something that we have a very strong conviction that it will deliver the envisage economic benefits to millions and hundreds of millions of people and young people in the continental. and it will leads to the industrialization of coding. and so those kinds of developments i was talking about over and over and over and okay. and what time we will be able to, to change those negative perceptions about our continents as we continue to subsets to build resilient and sustainable equipment. all right, we're talking about mutually productive. all beneficial. a alliance is to what extent of african news outlets involved in cooperation with russia and media on some of this issues. that means so much to south africa address of africans as

well. generally they the levels of cooperation across the board, not just do it. russian media, they, they levels of cooperation with chinese media for example, with the russian media. and they, uh, engage meds with some media houses in, in, in the middle east. my coordinates in the media can give you more details than i'm able to gauge. but that is part of and paso, for what we call cultural exchanges, people to people exchanges, as well as institutional changes that we encourage through the execution of a photo policy. where we seek to build strong the bones of ways, our global trade and political partners. and it's something that we will continue to to encourage it offers opportunities for skills, acquisitions,

and open bid offers opportunities for strategic partners sheets, as well as various commercial facilities that include the accessible open up as a result of those exchanges. and we'll continue to encourage those exchanges. all right, now, recently of many african media outlets have been trying to focus on the war with a sedan which has been forgotten in the western media. how do you assess the interest. busy of the african public in top picks that are not raised in the western media. the fight against new colonialism, for instance, the position of apply made the agenda by the west, as well as coverage of local law for getting conflicts and you get many to and prices as well. we have a own media houses in, in africa. we, we do observe and note how was didn't media houses also and reflects our issues and also in projects and various developments that take place in the continent. but

it's equally important for me to stress that we have our own home grown media companies. uh, that's kind of the continental to extensively, the platforms like radio for example, still remain very popular. and they still reach have a lot of people in eval incentives in rural areas. and so we're not always concerned about how west and media houses that are flags paso project asked, because we do have our own channels, where we are able to exchange information, provide information, consume information, and be able to share perspective and views. and so we very much be in touch with the content and not necessarily dependent on west and media houses to tell us about assets. we know a story,

we knew ourselves and in the conflicts that you left friends and not all know interested in the past. following at those conflicts, but they can't relax. so that's the case involved in, in supporting dialed in supporting for measures that can be puts in place to ensure that those conflicts come to an end. recently present from a closer match with one of the leading parties in incident which is the session may change and they'll be future ends, but and gauge meant that that, that he will have with various will play as a, to that conflict, as you will know. so that we could, is quite involved in, in bed pursuing a peaceful and to the consumer to the dfcs. we add to it, no, that was a big where was contributed at tubes to the setup source,

quotes in the dfcs engine, mozambique. so for me, so that's a good perspective. we quite engage with the quote. and so what western media houses say or not say, is not a major concern to us. what is important to us is that you are able as a continent to pull more. no correlative means and results is to and show that we assist will cease the countries and brother, countries with processes and other enabled meant to come out of those devastating countries so that we can save lives so that we can develop economies. and we can advance as a continent all right, share with us here. does the south africa prohibit some media outlets and, and besides that, how do you assess the policy of the you and the united states with the band? it's a national media like archie and all the russian media outlets. how does that fit

with the west? suppose a desire to protect freedom of speech. what's your assessment as well? so i sort of design as a consistent or principle that sits in the constitution and it's embedded in the constitution. and that will go as far as saying it's even embedded in uh, so side, so dna and so, so that's it. so we're not a band and the media house, it would be a gauge, the prescript both the constitution to do so. and so that's the kind of practice that we do not engage in. it is unfortunate that some countries in the region of blogs have decided to do that. obviously, if is that we will always be open to engaging in with those that are critical to us, to engaging in with those with disagree with. and that is a fundamental principle that informs our constitutional democracy.

and so we, we find it unfortunate that the media outlets that up and in some instances and in some other parts of the world just as was find it quite a important to see general is being killed in the manner that they've been killed in this conflict and gaza to see the man as a journalist, i intimidate and they prevented to do the work. and that's because that's something that close gains um, upgrade as a nation and goes or gains old constitutional principles. as i've said with believe in been ongoing engagement and died of it with those that disagree with us. and even with those that are critical against us. and. and so the banning of a media house does not contribute to does not contribute to the wide understanding of issues. it does not provide for diverse sets of voices on,

but ag shoot or matches and end is limited in terms of the perspectives that, that i should it. so the lease is bad and the media anywhere in the world needs to be allowed to both are age to express itself as freely as possible. so as to allow that diverse search of views and, and to afford people as much choice as possible to a wide range of information. all right, now how do you assess the 5 by some provide as in south africa? i have stop showing the r 2 news channel, for instance, as well. the reason has to do with um, you know, commercial interest and, and how those commercial interest tied to with interest outside of philadelphia get. and as well as, um,

show the dynamics that that could be that qu, bed blades. as i said, um it is unfortunate is that for example, your channel is no longer available uh, old headed by um and a. so that's a good company that, that carried a huge, i know, we will decide that you turn it is still available. so that in the public has that diverse sets of voices and n, n a day best besides falls content that they can choose. it is rather unfortunate that that's been the past, but to also understand that they may have been some of the commercial interests that play, that is put price a and of let's to, to, to that decision the, the

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