shelton stay main street because i'm probably going to make you comfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you and your tweets. you often criticize these roles, policies towards the gather strip. they again for see, on the stand of south africa concerning this issue. now, when do you think we should expect the conflict and, and when we, when i was going to see the 1st results all the area, i see j meeting. well, we would like to see the consumer end as soon as possible. we would like to see is royal, comply with the provisional measures that have been ordered by the court. that is why was going back to the courts to us for this threatening off of those orders. um, so that we prevent what is now getting matching as

a simon crisis with a lot of people of projected to die from starvation. we would live to see the association of hostilities. we would live to see the opening of humanitarian corridors to those who i need off of a few minutes are and 8. that is why we will always as a country. and this is something president. remo 4, so we'll continue to check your to use every legal means of increment to ensure that we see an end to the genocide that's currently taking place in guys that we see and, and to the brutal punishment and the team of, of people who are seeking aid ledger, so recently, in russia now the us has continued to support these role since the beginning of the

conflict is likely to change the us of africa relations. given that your country opposes us box is ready actions. we have a very strategic political and trades relationship with the united states within the context of that close political interest relationship. there is an appreciation that we d 54 and then number of issues. one of them is the issue concerning. the punish thing is as, as you particularly rated, we in engagement and in discuss ongoing discussions, ways of various counterparts within the united states. and we will continue to do so. um, the teachings that the president boston really fast to uh, follow up president nelson mandela and those dads and coverage, ongoing dialogue and engagement,

and windows that you disagree with the most. and so within the context of that political and trade partnership with the united states, we will continue to voice our displeasure and our discomfort ways and the stage of as well. and this behavior to us, the finest unions. and to do so in a constructive manner, in a robust manner within the confines of the partnership and the trades relationship that we have with united states. now, how do you assess the media coverage? all the conflicts in the gather strip? what are your main problems that you see if you to see any, because it seems that the narrative that is in for what i'm seeing on the play as outside of the mid least start as we can see. but let me hear your view on this as well. you, you do have obviously

a quite a concentration of focus of boston media globally with respect to developments in the middle east, particularly where it has been happening. and guys that you do have some international media outlets, particularly worse than outlets that has chosen to present ad to present as sort of some more school is riley perspective with the coverage and you both so it has lows to teach you that the media houses that originated from parts of the middle east and other parts of the world that have chosen to be balanced in the coverage as well as for trail also that conflicts. and that has allowed people around the world to then have added the ability to inform the views. and to inform their status with respect to what is happening on

the ground in, in, in further study. we noticed is as when we presented our arguments, is that the 1st application that we made to the international court of justice. some of the most prominent global most in media outlets chose not to provide coverage and live coverage of that presentation to, to the court. and we observed that the next day when these world presented aids adkins and they would have floated low to a low coverage if you lot. and so those are some of that biases that 2 votes that at the end of the day, each media house as a is food rights and longitude to detect. and it's a total of decisions and to 10 main was perspectives for trade. decision

to observe that. and the kind of to that is given to the point of sitting in story, particularly 5 west and media houses is not to say a treatment is that you see elsewhere where these, where the days past closely as a, as a media houses are to factor for example on this coverage that they provide is related to some incidents that are less to taking place, being guys and, and there's the results also like those bias. so we encourage you to go to the lights of the functions and add to add, reflect the situation, entities on the ground, disturbing and painful as it is. we still have those cottages, journalist, men and women of the news room that are committed in relating the truth and

in delaying the sites as they are with respect to what is happening or wide. uh that is still talking about the media because this is really very critical to understanding what the opinion and understanding what the issues really on the spot of what we have been trying to lay back for the world to see when in now coverage archie coverage. all of this issues wall to wall, like, like you say about still talking about the media. why in the old opinion, are a number of advocate in crisis, which of most of that consequences done the ukrainian one ignored by the western media. while the ukrainian prizes is on the fund pages. now the, there are issues and so down the issues in somalia, the central african republic, the co go even the ones that molly and so one out of the advocate and public react

to such westbound disregard as well. so for the longest time, um listen media outlets have a search to portray the after 10 content and in a negative and kind of steve a typical man the when the menus falls over t hung uh um, repairs as well as general perceptions of the inability to gather and effectively portrayed as says as the sort of override in defining. so you choose falls falls north of the african funding assessments every time i get it at the time. and um, the kids has thoughts to push backs of games that true false, false, false. the content and add sorts to tentative age and a lot of positive features as well as developments that are taking place on the,

on the african continent. and most of that resides and the coverage that we've seen. and so i moved to the west and media houses next, the appreciation of the complexities on the ground. and also in those complexities you'll find behind or the close. it's almost the countries and the challenges that, that we face on the continent. i guess this is going to be an ongoing task. um and it's ongoing challenge that as africans, we will continuously confront and work on to add on to change the manner in which our content is portrayed. when these conflicts and always ensure that that conflict is presented in

a box man. so that full size to that conflicts i presented, but also that days, appreciation of the complexity and the issues behind that continued to data at the countries on the continent that are doing remarkably well. some of those countries have come out of a history of conflict and, and they've pulled themselves out of that history. and they lead to like the development of the own people. and that has an image that has an impact on regional communities across across the continent. and we would like to see more of that portrayal of the african continent as a growing, advancing continental continental that increasingly has embraced democracy and democratic principles. a continuance that over time has shown a strong ability to govern itself and able to add resolve as phone issues. that's

that kind of for training, we would like to see posts before content and, and what is encouraging is the emergence of various phone line platforms that is allowed people to, to rates. they own stories that is allowed 2 people to read for themselves and the phone communities in the various sections where they operate. and, and that's largely advanced to the mentions of the various digital and on demand channels that allows people to be able to share the content from the hospitals, to the neighborhoods and to the countries as old. and so that has created a diversity of, of content that can be consumed above the content that is a lot more positive than what we're seeing right now. today we, we,

we see how in the countries of africa as to how redone the number of western media outlets are being shut down, which according to local authorities spread towers propaganda. now where should we look for the line between freedom of speech and protective national security? yes, it's a um, it's a very um, um, cheap abundance to 2 men to buy this one that's often guided by each country's constitutional principles. i guess if i just sort of slides on my own country, so i'd ask because the constitution guarantees, freedom of expression guarantees the media and as well as access to, to information we have a very robust and very engaging and media. so i have to

laugh from the president to officials to business need is no, it is a problem, is about a new formal school to needs all producing for, for that matter. and that's something that we accept to be a part of our democracy to be pods false while consist no democracy or democratic features if you like. and that's something that we appreciate as part of a growing and evolving democracy. some other countries will say differently based on, you know, they've kind of constitutional guidelines that they have and basically generally up to standards, little feet. you have a society that's bolted that can engage openly. that can and gauge boyd's criticism as much as it engages the way. it's closer to issues that and reflects the performance of government and that reflects the leadership off of the

government. all right, and you spoke earlier about the way western media complex, the african continent and how, assuming by us this is always waved into the story lines and all of that. but basically, if, if the story has to change as to the new rules of engagement, what do you say needs to be done for that to change? well, we have to continue um, advocating full full furnace. we have to continue pushing the boundaries with respect to how we, as africans reflected in various global platforms, we have to continue adding of voice with respect to positive developments that we're seeing on our continent. and we have to continue celebrating that humans and

advisements that we are witnessing across the continent. we cannot allow us else um to be forced to forwarded lined into a narrative that does not age uh, support or enable the attainment of a us be racially, just continental in individual countries across the continent. for example, um you have the recent adoption of the after the free trade agreement, which is going to be a major post to a number of for 10 in corner. is that outrage of signatures uh to the past to that's a very positive development. it all goes well for us, we can, you can amazed for domestic businesses just as it is positive for, for direct investments as well as international investors that are going to have different types of profile content. and that's something we have to continuously

talk about for dean was to celebrate. and something that we have a very strong conviction that it will deliver the envisage economic benefits to millions and hundreds of millions of people and young people in the continental. and it will leads to the industrialization of content. and so those kinds of developments i was talking about over and over and over and over again. and what time we will be able to, to change those negative perceptions about our continents as we continue to subsets to build resilient and sustainable equipment. all right, we're talking about mutually productive or beneficial. a alliances, to what extent of african news outlets involved in cooperation with russia and media on some of this issues. that means so much to south africa. this of africans . well, generally they the levels of cooperation across the board,

not just with russian media. they, they levels of cooperation with chinese media, for example, with the russian media. and the engagement is with some media houses in, in, in the middle east. my colleagues in the media can give you more details than i'm able to gauge. but that is part of and paso, for what we call cultural exchanges, people to people and exchanges, as well as institutional changes that we encourage through the execution of foreign policy. where we seek to build strong the bones of ways, our global trade and political partners. and it's something that we will continue to to encourage it, offers opportunities for skills, acquisitions, and offers. it offers opportunities for strategic partners sheets,

as well as various commercial facilities that include the accessible open up as a result of those exchanges. and we'll continue to encourage those exchanges. all right, now, recently i'm many african media outlets have been trying to focus on the war with a sedan which has been forgotten in the western media. how do you assess the interest. busy of the african public in topics that are not raised in the western media. the fight against new colonialism, for instance, the position of apply made the agenda by the west. as well as coverage of the local law for getting conflicts and you get many to and prices a well, we have a own media houses and in africa we, we do loves as a note how listed in media houses also and reflects our issues. and also in projects and various developments that take place in content and,

but it's equally important for me to stress that we have our own home grown media companies that cause the continental to extensively. the platforms like radio for example, still remain very popular. and they still reach have a lot of people in every incentives in rural areas. and so we're not always concerned about how west and media houses that are flags paso project asked, because we do have our own channels, where we are able to exchange information, provide information, consume information, and be able to, to share perspective and views. and so we've very much in touch with the continent and we're not necessarily dependent on west and media houses to tell us about assets. we know a story, we knew ourselves and in the conflicts that to you last friends. not all know

interested in the past following. and those conflict spreads the kinds of life. so that's okay. is involved in, in supporting dialed in supporting for measures that can be puts in place to ensure that those conflicts that come to an end recently present from a closer match. which one of the leading parties in into done which is the session may change. and they'll be future ends, but and gauge meant that, that, that he will have with various will play as a, to that conflict, as you will know. so that's we could, it is quite involved in, in bed pursuing a peaceful and to the consumer to the dfcs. we are active in know that most of the big where we've contributed at soups to the side that force quotes in the dfcs engine, mozambique. so for me, so that's

a good perspective. we quite engage with the quote. and so what western media houses say or not say it is not a major concern to us. what is important to us is that you are able as a continent to pull mormillo correlative means and results is to and show that we assist will cease the country is in private countries with processes and other enabled meant to come out of those devastating countries. so that we can save lives so that we can develop economies and we can advance as a continent. all right, share with us here. does the south africa prohibit some media outlets and, and besides that, how do you assess the policy of the you on the united states with the band, international media like archie and all the russian media outlets. how the about

fits with the west? suppose a desire to protect freedom of speech, what's your assessment as well? so i sort of design, it is a consistent or principle. it sits in the constitution and it's embedded in the constitution. and that will go as far as saying it's even embedded in now. so side, so dna and so, so that's why we're not a band and the media, how's it would be our games, the prescript, small saw constitution to do so. and so that's the kind of practice that we do not engage in the it is unfortunate that some countries and region of products have decided to do that. obviously, if is that we will always be open to engaging in with those that are critical to us, to engaging in with those with disagree with. and that is a fundamental principle that and informs our constitutional democracy.

and so we, we find it unfortunate that the media outlets that happened in some instances and in some other parts of the world just as was find it quite important to see general is being killed in the manner that they've been killed in this conflict and gaza to see the man as a gen of this day and to me data and they prevented to do the work. and that's because that's something that close gains um, upgrade as a nation and goes that gains our own constitutional principles. as i've said with believe in been ongoing engagement and died of it with those that disagree with us . and even with those that are critical of cases. and, and so the banning of a media house does not contribute to does not contribute to the wide understanding of issues. it does not provide for diverse sets of voices on an ag shoot

or matches and, and it's limited in terms of the perspectives that, that i should episode of the lease is bad. and the media anywhere in the world needs to be allowed to offer rates to express itself as freely as possible, so as to allow that diverse search of views and, and to afford people as much choice as possible to a wide range of information. all right, now, how do you assess the 5 by some provide as in south africa had stopped showing the r 2 news channel, for instance. well, the reason has to do with the, you know, commercial interest and, and how and those commercial interest tied to with interest outside of philadelphia get. and as well as a shareholder dynamics that,

that could be, that qu, bed plays. as i said, it is unfortunate that for example, your channel is no longer available, all 18 by 10, and a. so that's a good company that, that carried a huge, i know, we would have to said that you each other still available so that the public has that diverse sets of voices and n and the day best sets of content that they can choose. it is rather unfortunate that that's been the past, but to also understand that they may have been some of the commercial interest that i play, that is put pressure. and they've led to, to, to that decision, the, the,

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