a foreign policy establishment, all national security establishment is a weapon. auction person becomes a cloak for our own aggression. it becomes a way of flushing other countries on the back. sort of our record shows that we're not really that much of a democracy that we have no strip interfering in other countries when they produce democratic outcomes. we don't like the, the, in your tweets you're offering free, decide these old policies sports together, strip the, again for see, on the stand of sub africa concerning this issue. now when do you think we should

expect the conflict the end on when we, when we're going to see the 1st results all the area i, c j meeting? well, we would like to see the consumer end as soon as possible. we would live to see is royal, comply with the provisional measures that have been ordered by the court. that is why was going back to the courts to us for this threatening off of those borders and so that we present what is now imagine as a segment crisis with a lot of people of projected to die from starvation. we would live to see the association of hostilities. we would live to see the affinity of, of humanitarian corridors to those who are in need of, of, of humanitarian aid. that is why we were always as a country and this is something president. remo for so little good,

do you need to check your to use every legal means that instrument to ensure that we see an end to the genocide to that strategy and taking place in guys that we see and to the broad to punishment. and the team of, of people who are seeking age, like you saw recently in russia. now the us has continued to support these roles since the beginning of the conflict. is this likely to change the us south africa relations given that your country opposes us box is ready actions. we have a very strategic political and trades relationship with the united states. within the context of that close political in fed relationship. they ease and appreciation that we defy on the number of issues. one

of them is the issue concerning the punish didn't ends as, as you particularly rated. we in engagement and in discuss ongoing discussions, ways of various counterparts within the united states. and we will continue to do so. um the teachings that the president boston and really fast to uh, follow up president nelson mandela knows that and coverage, ongoing dialogue and engagement. and with those that you disagree with the most. and so within the context of that political and trade partnership with the united states, we will continue to voice our displeasure and our discomfort ways. and the stage of is role in this behavior towards the front of students. and to do so in a constructive manner, in a robust manner within the confines of the partnership and the trades relationship

that we have with united states. now, how do you assess the media coverage all the conflicts in the gaza strip? what are your main problems that you see if you to see any because it seems that the narrative that is influenced, seeing all the play as outside of the mid least start as we can see. but let me hear your view on this as well. you, you do have, obviously a quite a concentration of focus, a boston media globally with respect to developments in the middle east, particularly where it has been happening. and guys that you do have some international media outlets, particularly a new list and outlets that has chosen to present had to present a sort of some more uh, full is riley testbed to using the coverage and you both. so it has lowe's,

particular, the media houses that originated from parts of the middle east. and other parts of the world that have chosen to be balanced in the coverage as well as for trail also that conflicts. and that has allowed people around the world to then have the ability to inform the views and to inform their starts with respect to what is happening on the ground in, in, in further study. we noticed is as when we presented our arguments, is that the 1st application that we made to the international quotes of justice. some of the most prominent global noticed in media outlets chose not to provide coverage and live coverage falls that presentation to, to the court. and we observed that the next day when these well presented,

it's adams and they will have floated low to a low coverage if you lot. and so those are sort of most of biases that you folks that at the end of the day beach media house as a, his own brides and longitude to detect. and it's a total of decisions and to 10 main was perspectives for trade. decision you observed that the kind of to that is given to the finest in in story, particularly 5 was didn't we, the house is not to say a treatment that you see elsewhere where these, where they these as closely as they, as a media houses referred to better, for example, on the coverage that they provided related to some incidents that are less to

taking place in guys. and there's the results of those biases. so we encourage you to go to the lights of purchasing an ad. when to, to ad, reflect the situation as it is on the ground, disturbing and painful as it is. we still have those cottages, journalist, men and women of the news room that are committed in relating the truth and in delaying the facts as they are with respect to what is happening or wide. uh, it is still talking get by the media because this is really very critical to understanding what the opinion and understanding what the issues really on the spot of what we have been trying to lay back for the world to see even in now coverage archie coverage all of this issues wall to wall, like,

like you said about still talking about the media. why in your opinion, are a number of advocate in crisis, which of most of that consequences done the ukrainian one ignored by the west and media, while the ukrainian prizes is on the front pages. now the, there are issues and so down the issues in somalia, the set off to go to probably the co go even the ones that molly and so one how does the advocate and public react to such westbound disregard as well? so for the longest time, um listen media outlets have a search to portray the advertising content and in a negatives and kind of steal a typical man. when the menus falls over t hung uh, repairs as well as general perceptions of the

inability to gather and effectively portrayed as, as, as the sort of overriding defining. so you choose, falls, falls off of the african continent, all by periods of time number o, as in, oscar kittens has thoughts to push backs of games that betrayal. false, false, false, the condom end of sorts, to elevate. and a lot of positive features as well as developments that are taking place on, on the african continent. and we've also observed that the coverage that we've seen is almost uh was that in media houses the next, the appreciation of the complexities on the ground. and then also in those complexities, you'll find behind or the close,

it's almost of conflicts and the challenges that, that the face from the content. and i guess this is going to be an ongoing task and ongoing challenge that as africans, we will continuously confront and work on to the change, the man at which our content is portrayed. where these conflicts and always ensure that that conflict is presented in a box minute. the dead full size to the conflicts i presented, but also that days, appreciation of the complexity and the issues behind that country. and so now that the countries on the continent that are doing remarkably well, some of those countries have come out of a history of conflict. and, and they pulled themselves out of that history. and they led,

if you like, the development of the own people and that has an image that has an impact on regional communities across across the continent. and we would like to see more of that for trail of the african continent as a growing, advancing continental continental that increasingly has embrace democracy and democratic principles. a continuance that over time has shown a strong ability to govern itself and able to resolve as phone issues. that's that kind of training. we would like to see all of our content and, and what is encouraging is the emergence of various online platforms that is allowed people to, to re, to own stories. that is allow 2 people to read for themselves and the phone communities in the various sections where they operate. and, and that's largely advanced to the imagines of the various digital and online

channels that have allowed people to be able to share the content from the hospitals. to the neighborhoods and to the countries is old. and so that has created a diversity of, of content that can be consumed above the content that is a lot more positive than what we've seen for right now, today we, we, we see how in the countries of africa as to how redone the number of western media outlets are being shut down, which according to local authorities spread towers propaganda. now, where should we look for the line between freedom of speech and protective national security? yes, it's a um, it's a very um, um, cheap abundance to, to mentee,

but it's one that stuff and guided by each country is constitutional principles. i guess if i just sort of slides on my own country. so i'd ask because the constitution guarantees of freedom of expression guarantees the media and as well as access to, to information we have a very robust and very engaging and media. so to web, from the president to officials to business need is no, it is a problem, is about a new formal school to needs all producing for, for that matter. and that's something that we accept to be a part of our democracy to be pods false. while consist, no democracy or democratic features if you like. and that's something that we appreciate as part of a growing and evolving democracy. somebody,

the countries will say differently based on, you know, they've kind of constitutional guidelines that they have. and basically generally up to standards will say to have a society that's bolted that can engage openly. that can and gauge boyd criticism as much as it engages where it's positive issues that reflects the performance of government. and that reflects the leadership off of government. all right, you spoke earlier about the way western media complex, the african continent and how assuming biases is always waved into the story lines and all of that. but basically, if, if the story has to change as to the new rules of engagement, what do you say needs to be done for that to change?

well, we have to continue um, advocating full full furnace. we have to continue pushing the boundaries with respect to how we, as africans reflected in various blue platforms, we have to continue adding of voice with respect to positive developments that we're seeing on our continent. and we have to continue celebrating that humans and the advisements that we're witnessing across the continent. we cannot allow sales um to be forced to, for the lined into a narrative that does not age. all supports enable the, i'd say many of us be racially just continental in individual countries across the continent. for example, um you have the re send that option of the after the free trade

agreement, which is going to be a major post to a number of after 10 in corner. is that outrage of signatures uh to the us to that's a very positive development. it all goes well for us. we can economies for domestic businesses just as it is positive for, for direct investments as well as international investors that are going to net different parts of profile content. and that's something we have to continuously talk about for dean was to celebrate. and something that we have a very strong conviction that it will deliver that. and visa should coordinate benefits to millions and hundreds of millions of people and young people are not continental. and it will leads to the industrialization of content. and so those kinds of developments i was talking about over and over and over and over again. and what time we will be able to,

to change those negative perceptions about our continents as we continue to subsets to build resilient and sustainable equipment. all right, we're talking about mutually productive or beneficial, a alliances to what extent. awesome, i can use outlets involved in cooperation with russia and media on some of this issues. that means so much to south africa. this of africans. well, generally they the levels of cooperation across the board, not just with the russian media. they, they levels of cooperation with chinese media for example, with the russian media. and they, uh, engagement is when some media houses in, in, in the middle east. my clinics in the media can give you more details than i'm able to gauge. but that is part of and paso, for what we call cultural exchanges, people to people exchanges,

as well as institutional changes that we encourage through the execution of foreign policy where we seek to build strong, the bones weighs our global trade and political partners. and it's something that we will continue to to encourage it, offers opportunities for skills, acquisitions, and open. it offers opportunities for strategic partnerships, as well as various promotional fraternities that include at the accessible it'll open up as a result of those exchanges. and we'll continue to encourage those exchanges. all right, now, recently i'm many african media outlets have been trying to focus on the war we sedan, which has been forgotten in the western media. how do you assess the interest. busy of the african public in topics that are not raised in the western media. the fight

against new colonialism, for instance, the position of apply made the agenda by the west. as well as coverage of local law for getting conflicts and committee to and prices a. well, we have a own media houses in enough it, uh we, we do observe and note how was didn't media houses also and reflects our issues and also in projects as there is developments that take place in content and, but it's equally important for me to stress that we have our own home grown media companies that cause the continental to extensively platforms like radio for example, still remain very popular. and they still reach have a lot of people in every incentives in rural areas. and so we're not always concerned about how west and media houses that are flags paso project asked,

because we do have our own channels, where we are able to exchange information, provide information, consume information, and be able to share perspective and views. and so we've very much in touch with the continent and we're not necessarily dependent on west and media houses to tell us about assets. we know a story, we lost sales and in the conflicts that you left friends. not all know interested in the past. following at those conflicts, but they can't relax. so that's the case involved in the supporting dialed in supporting for measures that can be put in place to ensure that those countries come to an end recently present from a closer match. which one of the leading parties in into done which is the

2nd meeting. and they'll be future and fed and gauge meant that that, that he will have with various will play as a, to that conflict. as you will know. so that we could, is quite involved in, in bed pursuing a peaceful and to the consumer to the dfcs. we are active in know that most of the big where we've contributed at soups to the side that force quotes in the dfcs engine, mozambique. so for me, so that's a good perspective. we quite engage with the quote. and so what western media houses say or not say, is not a major concern to us. what is important to us is that you are able to as a continent to pull mormillo correlative means and results is to and show that we assist will cease the countries and private countries with processes and other enabled men's to come out of those devastates in countries. so that we can save

lives so that we can develop economies and we can advance as a content. all right, share with us here. does the south africa prohibit some media outlets and, and besides that, how do you assess the policy of the you on the united states with the band, international media like archie and all the rest of the media outlets. how does that fit with the west? suppose a desire to protect freedom of speech, what's your assessment as well? so i sort of design it as a consistent or principle it states in the constitution and it's imbedded in the constitution and now goes 5 say is even embedded in now. so side, so dna and so, so that's it. so we're not a band and the media house, it would be a games the prescriptive both the constitution to do so. and so that's the kind of

practice that we do not engage in. um, it is unfortunate that some countries in the region of products have decided to do that if is that we will always be open to engaging in with those that are critical to us, to engaging in with those with disagree with. and that is a fundamental principle that informs our constitutional democracy. and so we, we find it unfortunate that the media outlets that up and in some instances and in some other parts of the world just as was find it quite apartment to see general is being killed in the manner that they've been killed in this conflict. and does that to see the man as a general is dying to me, dates and then they prevented to do the work. and that's because that's something that close gains um, upgrade as

a nation and goes against our own constitutional principles. as i've said with believe in been ongoing engagement and dad of isn't with those that disagree with us and even with those that are critical and cases and, and so the banning of the media house does not contribute to does not contribute to that wide understanding of issues it does not provide for diverse sets or voices on an ag shoot or, or matches and end is limited in terms of the perspectives that, that i should episode of the lease is bad. and the media anywhere in the world needs to be allowed to both are age to express itself as freely as possible, so as to allow that diverse search of views and, and to afford people as much choice as possible to a wide array of information. all right, now,

how do you assess the 5 by some provide as in south africa has stop showing the r 2 news channel, for instance. well, the reason has to do with the, you know, commercial interest and, and how and those commercial interest tied to with interest outside of philadelphia get. and as well as a shareholder dynamics that, that, that could be, that qu, bed plays, as i said, it is unfortunate is that for example, your channel is no longer available, all 18 by 10, and a. so that's a good company that, that carried a huge, i know, we would have to said that you each other still available so that the public has that diverse sets of voices and

n and the day best besides false content that they can choose. it is rather unfortunate that that's been the past, but to also understand that they may have been some of the commercial interests that play, that is put pressure and they've, let's to, to, to that decision the, the spending their juvenile like the use of incredible proportion. my turn now to the latest on russia's presidential election. well, well, well, at least turn it up the

the, what is a part of the, the employee would post good. isn't the defense you of us and bidding the word? or is it something deeper, more complex? might the present good? let's stop without cases. let's go back to the bottom of what the new name was, what i mean the for the lower authority when, when is the check? i can see what we

do. we like what the issue is utah, those are, you know, see, go ahead even from the she's here. what is the idea in the policy, you know, in syria, in the most, in what do you see by easy is that what is it going to get? no, no, and i'm of course it only open was he got a gun that would allow us to send anyone at all? no, that's fine. the

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