can thoughts in the democratic process. so this year, as russians from very boss stuck to belgrade, head to the polls, they'll be joined by the people have done bus, eager to exercise their hard won democratic rights, and to find their own future as part of the wider wash. and finally, and while ukraine may do all in its power to prevent it, the selection will go ahead and the free voices of dumbass will be heard. let's have a look how both thing is already taking place in some regions. russian soldiers currently still have it on the front lines and making that choice for the next president in uh the pallets the boasting procedure is exactly the same. it as its ordinary election stations was sold as sort of the possible it's and only then being able to mark that vote for a candidate the on the don't. yes, region has also participates in the voting with citizens, already costing the votes for the next president's local se that eager for the opportunity, expressing hope that a future neither will bring pace to the the for i am

a patriot of our motherland. why not vote a couple of my hopes that we could be quiet so that we could finally go out for will, can enjoy life a very big hope. well, very much as they say with t as in my eyes. it's a so it's a southern he cannot stay away. we have finally become a single big country, has entered history, become part of the russian federation. and how can we stay away because this is our history, our parts. and our voice means a lot us or will say with his hell and all the international throughout the weekends we lead up to those crucial elections. many thanks for joining us here. and i'll see we're back to the top of the hours on the the

hello and welcome to the prospect bullhorn and peter level. here we discussed some real news during a state of the union address. joe biden invoked history. specifically, the 2nd world war on this edition of the program, we explain why this history is abused. also, voters throughout the western world go to the pulse this year. will their voices be heard to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by george samuel leon budapest. he's a pod cast, right, the guy goal, which can be found on youtube and locals, and america actually a martin jay. he is an award winning journalist, and commentator or a gentleman cross up rules and effects. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out with george and in budapest, um you have, uh you and i have previously talked about the state of the union address that joe biden delivered. obviously,

the most bizarre thing coming from on that venue for that occasion. we have ever heard in our lifetime and it, but it was very interesting. it was those to be the state of the union, but it was a kind of a state of jo biden's mind and administration, particularly when it comes to world affairs. so, so the united states didn't feature very much, at least in the beginning, but the 2nd world war he paid off with the 2nd world war. as if the united states in 2024 is in a similar circumstance. it was in january or i guess that was march then of of, of night and 1941 that the world is coming up across a part of the wheels off the rails and the, the united states must lead. oh, would you take it from here? george, because his understanding of history is not only wrong, but it's kind of perverse. go ahead, eric said, right, it's a little bit less of being one of those bizarre state of the union address is ever

delivered by any president they kicked off. does it say the state of the union by referencing january and 1941 suggested that america was in that situation that it was then. now, last year, within 11 months, united states was at a more of a world water. but it was of war with japan and germany. so you have to wonder then, is that the plan? but this year says that he said that this is where exactly the same situation that we were in in 1941. and in fact, yes, he said it is worse because we have this, the existing show thread. is it? well, why am we have an existing show, a thread at home. so it's a, it's of interest at all my dig prices. so you have to then what, what, what's the bottom here? i mean, it is easy butting to leave the country in the world. and then you also have to wonder about what's been going on in your, of this uh, this week with um,

my chrome um denouncing the gentleman spoke our this the big of the, the lack of the z you, instead of him sending the taurus messiahs to ukraine, demonstrates call of this and um, uh and, but this was echoed also by the british and david cameron, the, the, the before, i'm sorry, i meant to say no, no, no, they get all, this is not escalation, just send, send everything you've got, just send me it all different that well, no, they suppose i george, i suppose george the, the, the, the french can say that because the red army didn't come visiting. and 1945, i suppose that hadn't something to do in the they didn't terminate metrics and then my chrome, he had all of the political parties assembled at the lease, a policy degree to you to have the meeting with all of them. and, you know, number of the address number of states in europe in which you gain reiterated that, well, if things get bad and ukraine,

we're going to have to be the way the way the way going. well, i mean, charge, we, you, and i've talked about this before. it's nato troops. does that mean french troops sort of means, you know, the baltic? republics. it means poland doesn't mean romania. i mean, who is good to do the heavy lifting here, or is it just be non say, you know, martin, one of the interesting things too, with george and i remember them and yourself a very serious about history. and if we look at the, the, the 1st months of 1941, the united states at least, but the official narrative was trying to stay out of the war spy to stay out of the european more and try to avoid war with which i am. that's the nominal history here, but joe biden is not only he's not avoiding more, he is one i mean, to perpetuate board, to continue war. i mean, really the, the analogy to 1941 is upside down and inside out, because joe biden, with a couple of phone calls, could these x a central threats that he claims could be, or could be dealt with immediately? martin?

yeah, he, he wants to keep the war going as it is, as a proxy will, but it doesn't, it doesn't want to involve american troops or, or nature trips for that matter. you know, and i think you have to ask yourself why, and i think i hope americans are becoming more and more cynical. i'm asking the same question here. is this something else that we don't know about? you know, when we look at his sons activities, his business dealings in the crane all the other, you know, great to corruption stories that i, which will come out in the next few years. you know, it's, it's very dubious erased, suspicious, because i think that if there's any question about who, who wrote his speech, i think he wrote himself. because to go back in history that fall and to not really make any prolific statements or comparisons to the today. but just simply shows that you have an idea about what history it has and what she has done and where america is now is foolish because the world's changed. i think you, the message was, i'm stuck in the past. you know, i don't really care about the policy going over the americans will be saying, well, what about health care? what about pump prices and food in the supermarket?

can we deal with realities of today? and i think the hood that came up, well, 1st of all, i think a lot of speeches basically written about trump. i think it was really old about trump, but a lot of there were a lot of references. i know it's just to, to, i'm trying to trickle down effect and i think this is one of his obsessions. now, is that, look, the economy isn't in a bad state and it isn't. he's flushed the statistics a little bit in the respect about some of the positive specifics about jobs, for example, on really realistic unless you give them context that when he came into office, we were coming out of cove. it. so obviously the pendulum swinging the other way on gross on, on job to spend on inflation. but you know, but martin that you know me, i don't want to go into the weeds about the mika nomics of it because a, i think i just patently false. what he had to say, but it's a, it's very least the, his, the leads are doing fine. that was the mess. yes. the okay, is that they're doing fine. you know, we're doing just jim dandy here. how did,

how do you want to look somebody can everybody else think, you know, except are, well, be how, how do you, how do you wouldn't election on that? you know, the way we're doing great. we're buying new. let's just say, well that, that's a problem. we're going to discuss that. i always go into this election season. yeah . but george, you know, you know, who wrote the speech well, didn't that the leach wrote the speech, okay? because mike johnson, he could say maybe he was clap and under the table i'm not really sure, but he was certainly nodding us head. okay. so this is again, maybe una party. this is a very, very pipe, a bi partisan. i mean, even the highest ranking elected republican, if it goes to a sitting right behind the president on sites like that's right. that's right, mister president. considering everything else is coming of coming apart. they have an agreement on that at the very, very top. george, it is quite remarkable and, and that is a very good question as to why you start to the state of the union,

which is supposed to be the state of the union today. and then you bring up some events from more than a few years ago. and yes, he is not in the boss, but as is america's the lead. and i'm as, as you are absolutely, you know, when, when you, when you listen to macro and you listen to david cameron's, they are exactly the same is bite. and they are stuck in this mindset of hipaa churchill chamberlain. and that's how i try to read what's going on in the works. i need to so bizarre because the public just isn't buying it. the public is, does not think that what's going on in ukraine is some existing show a match, a full them that they have to worry about, that it's somehow in any way strengthens them. but that's how essentially best selling a war, because they have no other means, or they will. they know other means of, of telling them why they're doing what they're doing. i mean, that's, that's really the question. why are you so heavily involved in ukraine and they

don't have an answer other than bring up or will it fits his blood while it goes, everything is on the table. it a tip load. if it them, then you know where it was. i think it most of that, well, we need the problem. the problem with that junk is that how many, what is there out there? we keep hearing it, the aware. yes. that's right, but they don't, they don't have any means of that. this was a, they've never been able to explain why, as you probably is so important. although they have to bring out paper when you have to stop it. but you know, and that's the way we, we, we stopped them before in the 90 boards that we don't to do it now. and that's, that's all like of the problem is that this rhetorical excesses acquire momentum of that road. and then it becomes very difficult to stop, because if you're facing hitler, well, you can't just have to say it one certain point. okay, well let's say boys, let's, let's go home now, but didn't you say that we will fight the hitler? so if you live and that's why move by chrome is getting more in mold with, with,

with all these brooklyn nations that, well we have to, you know, get ready for war. and the, and we now the stores of a french are being trained to fight a war in europe. you know, they're, they're basically trading in africa to find, to warn you, if it's an input story, a political today. it's where the, where, where they have a, you know, more, it's which really came really bizarre about this speech is that there was no reference or a suggestion of how to move towards peace. that was absent. yeah. it is it, there's no options out there that, that there is nothing else that if you're a prisoner of some of this ro reenactment of history, martin. yeah, but the references to ukraine and i'm getting the bill passed, you know, to, to carry on with the spending was very brief. i so, i mean, it was really sure. so, you know, you, you would expect seem to put a bit bit more meat on the boat and really hammer the point home, you know, that, that pretends is able to take to and he's going to take over europe and when next,

because that's what the challenges have been pumping out for weeks now and even government minutes is like my video 6 defense minister who were recently visited kiff and displaced a camera because because we don't have just any more of the 2 interviews. but they've done this anymore. the also, i mean it's just difficult questions. what we have is ministers, if they media training and then or their buddies come along with a little i finally do a piece to come around. this was explained to us that you know, we need to carry on. we just pull the ukrainians and help them when this war, but i think with bites and gloves. so it went to a very tight kona because um, you know, i, i think an awful lot of americans, i'm not really talking very seriously. i didn't see him as a, somebody can really fly the flag international it, you know, just driving us more, more into international, you know, to some way he could, came across as a dog, barking and cards joyous. me that, that, that's, that's how i, i kind of read it here. but again, you know, stressing that there is there somehow prisoners of their policy. and in, in,

in martin you say put more meat on the bones here. i think, you know what people say, did i miss the net? netflix series on this is what is the talking about george at 40 seconds before we go to the break the. that's right. and he, he has been a prisoner of this policy from the stuff, and it was his decision to get so involved in the world in which the one know all this american interest of state. and he has done this and he has continued to escalate and he has continued to push the europeans and persuading them that this is an egless, thanks elaborate for you. this is hipaa. and now they are indeed prisoners of this policy. and it's very hard to see how they get all. yeah, and um, this is joyce and the beginning maybe biden was process sizing. what the end of the year will look like. we'll say gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our to the

spending their juvenile life rivers, the incredible proportion only my turn now to the latest on russia's presidential election. well, well, at least turned it up. the oh, what else seemed wrong? just don't you have to shape house because the after and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will

support. we choose to look for common ground, the the welcome back to prospect bullhorn design people about here were discussing some real news. okay, let's go back to budapest, george. we have this amazing election outcome recently with george galloway, the someone that you and i have dealt with in the past. a supremely wonderful human being. yes, i said that everyone. i know everywhere. everywhere else you hear his name mentioned that he is demonized, but no, he's a wonderful gifted politician from the working class which i totally respect. but george is it. is this a, a taste of what we can get for the and throughout the western world? because george galloway is a known element. what's an accident? people voted for him for a reason and they know what he stands for. is this going to be

a stand as an example of what the lead, so we'll have to be fearful of this year? well, what would hope so, but you know what? it has to be a little bit skeptical when it comes to the united kingdom for instance, because it has to be an election sometime before the end of this year. um, galloway has done this before. he is uh, the one um by elections before and then um he didn't succeed in uh, in winning the re election. very, very hot in britain as i think boston will say very hard to break through the 2 body system. i'm not sure why but, but it's almost impossible to break that 2 body system and it's also a 100 years since they uh that this was the last, the cheap um. so easy. i think he was, he is a populous the beacon, and i think that there will be a, a populace moving in, in your about in,

in the coming months that we're seeing that in the, with the farmers protests which is spread throughout europe. and what's remarkable about these purchase is that they enjoy widespread support in this thinking, the, because the things are really obnoxious. and yet the public is entirely on this side. and, and then we've seen some major moved ones in germany. i mean, we have, we have the, certainly the, and the official path is the, the, the, the rainbow for the traffic like that. we'll issue as of the rainbow colors, much traffic like a relation, deeply on popular. and now this is the alternative for deutschland, doing clearly very well in the both. and now there's a new kind of left wing populace bother again. very similar to the george galloway's bought the bug bizarre back in next could well break through and this year by chrome is also in a lot of trouble. so, you know, we have the, the, the national riley body also looking like they going to do well. so they could well

be a major shake up. and again, as we were talking about in the 1st of my call keeps going down this path of threatening france with war against russia. he's heading for an old might. it shows i king, in, in the european elections in june, because clearly the french public is not with them on this. what it's really interesting is you're again, giving your answer. markham is not in his head, but it's, it's, it's not the problem isn't. the idea is the problem is the system because the system will not allow new ideas to percolate to the top or to be a heard. i it's, it's, it's very interesting to me because i said in my introduction will be, will the voters be they will vote, but will their vote out. ok, that's one of the problems that i see facing us right now, because it's no coincidence that you know, we hear through western capitals that help to prepare for war. well, that means the suspension of domestic issues of domestic debate do have to have

that. everyone has to rally around the flag. unfortunately the flag is being held and controlled by neil or the liberals. martin? yeah, it's and also it's a mess. it from massive media destruction which now relates now really sticking on, you know, we've had a few over the last few decades and in the last few years as well. we had cove it, you know, then ukraine was for a long time. was it took up with a massive amount of media oxygen and now it says, oh, these relates to go together and said, well look, i'm our economies are in a mess. you know, we can't really now inflation drugs, unemployment is just starting to spin out of control. we haven't got any policies. we don't have a silver bullet. you know, the only thing that we can come up with is, can we find more cash? can we tax the system even more? i'm on the and it's the same. i think the same situation to the european union election to know you have now us live on the land, who is going to try and say for a 2nd to get a rubber 2nd to them. so in happen very often the,

so we have once and the you'll just coordinate or will this have queen or so love, i think keep going actually below is a running and cool another another running and cool of matt, chrome on shows. and so not is also the same is we need to spend more money on defense. so i'm not, is just really the biggest scam, but that's like, that's like a lift it costs, you know, it's like why do we need to spend more than defensive to keep you in jobs to keep the leads where they need to be, you know, to keep them in control because policies are failing and i think if we look up for me, the big one is, is 20 election, some of that 20 elections in the, in the european, in the, in europe, in a old europe as well. and russia, and i think come to me that europe in elections is going to be a milestone in the history because i think we're going to have a lot of published votes. and that is going to change how the functions, when we have a decent the number of any page that you are being problem with. the can slow down the entire bureaucratic process and stopped coming up with some common sense

policies on the environment on in, on international conflicts. and such was i think that's going to be a game changer unless i wonder if for us live on the land stating that she's going to run for 2nd time is that you're going to even drive more. people develop this much because because people are sick of the, you know, i'm, i'm, you know, it's up to the french, a sick of the eat it because it doesn't work anymore. just doesn't, they don't, people don't see the benefits anymore. they can see this institution is out of control that wants to spend to spend to spend more more more money. but no one sees any tangible you know, result on so but you, you lived in brussels, the, you know, takes care of people in the, you and brussels and yeah, yeah, a lot of it before it goes, well, good both ways mark, i'd be charged lots of lots of good would, but it would translate say, this is what i'm, what i'm worried about is that the, i think there are some people have ideas that and there's, we thinking a lot of the, the, the real problems that beset the western world. but will it will,

will they be allowed to have that voice express? they can vote, but we all know, you know, even if it's, if you get 50 percent plus one percent of the vote, it doesn't necessarily mean change is going to come about. and that's where the tension is gonna start in george. bitter events, not going to be considered such an outlier, i think by the end of the year. go ahead. well, the, what you already said is very, very, very important. because, you know, we, we talk about the populace and the, you know, with the, the, the, the, the german populace, they alternate they production and they can talk about this. i can think about it. but the reality is when it comes to gambling, it is very hard for the outside volunteers to make that break through. because that's the way they really do really well. what happens that means all the establishment bought is just get together and say, well under those circumstances we will let the outside this have any say in government. you know, we will setup a completely a cop coalition of all the best. so sites like a new saga, sweet model,

let's then say that the, when i, when i'm gonna have the, i mean we've had that with the get builders in the, in the, in the netherlands again, would you believe that's going to keep him out? and, and i, the thing is the same thing is going to be in front of the house, no matter how well, um, uh, you know, the national riley does in the european elections. macro will continue with this policy. i mean, look at the people that he has in the, in, in the government, 7 days in the, in the new people, his appointed, you know, that basically so as belligerent does. he is, he is determined on this policy if you knew when he told in all of these, uh, the politicians and told them that his plan is to save ukraine, whatever it takes. and he said, but well, there are no no red lines. i don't recognize any red lines. there are no limits to our support for you. great. i mean, he was, he knew that they would blanket. that's always are they what the hell are you doing? you know, you be dragging us into walks, you know? yeah. so that's the problem that be the leads just simply go ahead with,

with the problem is i'm the if some of these other to change anything from what really soon has been doing. yeah, because martin there's, they're, they're speaking to, in reacting to share their donors and the center of a power which is washington. i mean, listen, no french president in, in his are right. mind would be saying these things now, but they're addressing washington, they're not addressing the farmers in front. so i mean, we and that's what we, you know, we've said over and over again. i'm this program, this is all about a lead to capture because that's the only way you can explain why they ignore their electric. i mean, i don't mean to bear boxes really. she's honest and say, i don't care what about the boat or think. go ahead, mark. yeah, but i wonder if i'm less skeptical 0. i wonder if these elections that will have this here will be attending point, and i think the election killed galloway in new k that may will be an indicator that my we so that will met may, will be assigned that the times are changing and that will be

a new generation of independence and peace. you know, mavericks like, by the way, i mean, you know, i love george. i really do. i don't agree with his domestic politics. i'm not from the left, but a lot is a guy because whatever you say against him, he is consistent with his policies. he is principles, you know, and, and there, when you think of somebody of my age who reflects on, you know, the last 30 years or so, how many people in the palm but we have in britain and he said the same about, you know, these days of materials are wishy washy page corrupt little individuals, grey men in grey suits who are basically a lot of the time on the take looking for ways to subsidize this saturday is because you come live alone and pay salary. if you live in london, it's just, you know, even though you're going to do something else. so corruption is sort of, we're a built in the american model. but people like galloway, you know, could shake the system up and could set the example for other employees to come in . the play will happen. but let me make my point,

the thing about these new independence because he was skeptical up to, to, to counter your point. i think they will make a difference. and the reason why is, excuse me, because people like galloway come with the own media. they bring an entire infrastructure associated with them. you know, and this makes a difference. this does take the system up, you know, the, the elite satellites conduct? no. well someone like galloway can do him one afternoon on twist. oh, yeah. you know, george, it's very interesting that martin said, you know, that, you know. yeah, we've talked to with, with george galloway. yes, he is a man of the left. but i think what makes him attractive is not the fact that he's from the left. it is that it be there's an authenticity and a road record that goes along with him. and i think so, and it's so he gets across the political spectrum, you say, well, i don't really agree with him on that, but he's a, he's a person that is authentically in genuine. and i think that counts because we all know the rest of them are just complete stakes. go ahead, george. absolutely right. he certainly authentic,

and i don't think it's entirely right to describe them as the man on the left. i mean, i think he, it's more complicated. yes. exactly. with a college that he has many socially very conservative use. and he is someone who, i think, you know, but that's why i want to describe him as a populous because he does try to articulate the, the, the hopes and the, the fee is all the ordinary people. let's over the, you know, they say hey, the, the people that i represent the time actually very socially conservative views. and when it comes to those issues like immigration is very much thanks at the right s over the view. and i think that's also true of the sar games next in the a german who's also said that, you know, it has some socially conservative goes on a game where you're going to end on a positive note. we usually don't do that and what we have on it right of the time when i think my guess, america, and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our d. c. a next time. remember prospect rules, the

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