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the city of ruffled both on the latest head. 5 up next doing full of c i. a agents don't carry out the whistle blast. i will be back to some of them. the most americans have complaints about corruption, whether at the local state or even the national levels. we don't have to live with corruption as an endemic part of our culture, like many other countries do, but it's still frustrating when one encounters it. and then what happens when the corruption that one encounters is so agree just so bold as to put a person's life in danger. what happens when green clouds, the judgment of other wise, professional accomplished people?

what happens when your own lawyer turns against you? and how about if your lawyer is working with rudy giuliani to do it? you go to court and you sued them on john kerry onto welcome to the whistle blowers the . 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 is tucked pleasant, it was born and raised in slovenia, a patriot, and a natural athlete. he decided to join his country's intelligent service, where he specialized in counter terrorist operations. he trained with the u. s. secret service and the navy seals before deciding to emigrate to the united states in 2003 because of his athletic ability, he was actually drafted as a place kicker by an nfl team in 2004 and offered that he declined so that he could instead work for a company under contract with the international criminal court, is talked to lead counter terrorist teams to retrieve evidence or to capture people

around the world under indictment in the i c. c. it was during one of these operations in 2017, that is talk, and his team of operations officers entered a series of alleged terrorist safe houses in africa. in pursuit of terrorist suspects. they found their man, but they also found a stash of cash. these are houses with pallets of american currency, notably one with $6000000000.00 and another with $10000000000.00. in $100.00 bills. the source of the money is a mystery. it most likely belong to the government of former libyan leader. more mar, i'll come daffy. it may have been a c. i is money. it could have been money hoarded by all tied up. is talk, ordered that the cash be secured in warehouses and because he's a patriot, he sought to return it to the us treasury. he received permission to do just that from the us department of the treasury. but when he went to africa to pick up the

money and to take it back to the us. the american embassy turned on him and he was arrested by local authorities, jailed, beaten, and eventually expelled. just weeks later, the american government officials who were supposed to help him, retired with new houses and new cars. sounds fishing, doesn't it. were joined by bruce spine. he's a former associate deputy attorney general of the united states. he's one of the country's leading constitutional scholars. and he's the attorney representing is talk public in his suit against the us government and the officials who apparently turned on him. bruce, welcome to the show. you know, thank you for inviting you to bruce. let's start at the very beginning here. tell us about this money. where is it? why is it there? and how did is taught and go about getting permission to bring it back as well. the money really can't be located any more specifically then uh, somewhere in africa,

in part for security concerns. uh, i think that uh, where did it come from? uh, the most likely place is uh, from uh, colonel cut off these uh coffers did choose amounts of cash that were probably like his weapons of conventional weapons that were scattered throughout africa when he was overthrown. now this is not a case where there was any real watkins a by his stock to be secretive. it was all transparent. he took the initial samples of the cash to the us department of justice. had them interrogate him free hours, tests the cash to make certain it was authentic. it wasn't counterfeit. that's not an example of someone who think is doing something wrong. i mean,

we didn't have briggs instance al capone's visit j edgar hoover before just gang sleggs. so after he had obtained this bidding and clearance from the department of justice, he proceeded with his a port for ported attorney, who had turned against them to the treasury department and asked for letters authorizing the repatriation of $6000000000.00. first could be as much as 10000000000 additional into the treasury department and he was given to letters and instructions as to how the wire transfer might be done. then he proceeded to travel to ivory coast where the 6000000000 was being held. and it was available for transfer once he had the approval of the us embassy, he was told by his lawyer. yes, you meet with a mister billington, who will be the man in charge of the embassy and he will do everything necessary to

have the money repaid tree. the lo and behold, when the stock arrives with the letters from the treasury department in which is lawyers knowledge that he had been completely vetted and approved by the justice department. mister billington, screams and yells and gives him of criminality, that he and others are all going to be going to prison. he ordered him to be detained by marines at the embassy he left and departed. he had a mr. club. nick, arrested, imprisoned with hardened criminals. where his life was in danger for hours after that duration. uh, the money that had been stored in a nearby police office was disappeared. i don't think it takes much speculation to know what likely happened to it. it was a french lawyer who was close to his doc,

who was able since ivory coast is a french speaking country, a former french colony to intercede. vouch for mister plus, next integrity in fact was capturing terrorist. he wasn't a terrorist himself and he was able to be released after being really under enormous stress, almost living and torture conditions, do hotel, and then return to the united states. and then his lawyer abandoned him. lawsuit erupted because the, uh, the suspicion was, as you mentioned in your opening, this sudden surge of wells in persons who are working for the government, which doesn't pay you laws must style salary indicative of they had unexplained ability to buy very palatial houses and vehicles which

now the case is now on appeal, but at least as we speak and there's been no disputing, the factual narrative that has been related on your program. and you have to ask, why would have country. it's got a $34.00 trillion dollar national debt. it's running annual budget deficits of $1.00 to $2.00 or more trillion dollars. turn away billions of dollars cost free and repatriated money. it doesn't make any sense unless there's some old tier motors, right. so the government officials that were involved and we hope ultimately deep indicate. but i think what this shows, in some sense, john, i think you experience at the see a and after $911.00, it almost became routine for the government to throw money anywhere. under any name rugs, anti terrorism, helping someone, remember,

we were giving cut off the money in part because you've been to w. m d, there is no congressional oversight. no tracking money goes everywhere. mm hm. and i think this is an effort to try to retrieve the money, keep it out of the hands of terrorists. be a good samaritan, right? to the extent there's money, pay pay taxes on and it all goes into the ditch. and it's really very uncomplimentary to the federal government. and i want underscore then it was under both the trump invited administration's, that's right. not a part of it. so wrote this happened but so it is talk is trying to do the right thing. he goes to the treasury department to get permission. he walks out of the treasury department with a signed letter authorizing him to return the money that he found to the us treasury. as you said, he flies to africa. he goes to the us embassy to meet with the officials there. this meeting came after a meeting in washington with a judge, eugene sullivan,

and with representatives of the state department and the justice department. and then what happened as well, what happened was when he arrived and was told to go to the embassy instead of being received amicably and enthusiastically with his treasury letters. it was may be challenged, still with statements will the treasury letters are focused and you know, they're not on the 10th. and when it's dark said, well, they are authentic. there's on the letterhead, there was nothing fishy about them. he could call on the treasury, gave them phone numbers that he can call back in washington dc. this, after all is the digital age. don't have to sail across the atlantic ocean to get a response that was not done. it was simply a dogmatic steep no, i don't believe this is right. i think that you're not who you are, that this is fraud. all come through is re statements that he had him detained with machine guns pointed at him right for hours. and then suddenly, as you can imagine,

all the billions of dollars disappear, disappeared, additional $10000000000.00 nearby also disappeared as well. so the whole thing makes no sense at all. if you're a truly bona fi, uh, uh, an embassy official. and someone is coming with the letter saying i'm trying to repatriate $6000000000.00 to the us treasury. here's the money here. the letters mean you initially would say, okay, well that's wonderful. i'll make a phone call. let me just, i, i want to have it verified and that's where you can do in this day and age you pick up a phone is what's app there all ways to communicate. you can communicate by email. that's right, but that wasn't done. it was just a contrived excuse to prevent the repatriation of money and you would think that the department of treasury, department of justice would be furious. what is the money was going to come in at least cut the deficit. $6000000000.00. that's not pocket change. nothing anything,

they've been hostile, this stuff, nor efforts. i've sent letters to the new general counsel, the treasury department under by no response whatsoever, no interest in any of this. and the fact is, this, these billions are not just the ceiling and they are the floor. and for reasons known, perhaps best of the intelligence community, there are a lot of us dollars all over africa, run a b informants band and the money maybe c i a, they don't, they're, they're attacked. and so they have to band and we're caches. if you work in africa, you readily understand that caches the cooling of the realm if you will. and that's how you get things done. so in lots of, yes, that's how you, through friends and the enemies very quickly and enemies into french very quickly. so there could be huge amounts there, and especially because congress does know,

oversight. and the c i a can span without any auditing whatsoever. you can imagine money being printed in going everywhere, right? we, we used to say as a c i o, and we have to say to you that intelligence is a, is a cash business. there is no oversight. there is no one to keep the honest, people honest. but bruce hold that thought we're going to take a short commercial break. and when we come back, we're going to speak with bruce fine, a little bit more about taking to the courts. what happens when an individual takes on the lady american governments say to. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 the. 2 the

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show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do the have the state department to see i a weapons makers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do, don't want marshall state main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way you the the welcome back to the list of lawyers. i'm john kerry onto were speaking with attorney bruce fine about a nightmarish experience that his client is talking plus, nick has had in trying to return as much as $16000000000.00 in cash to the

us treasury cash. he found in what was apparently a safe house in africa. bruce, good to have you with us. thanks again. bye. thank you, bruce that you filed the federal lawsuit in washington, dc on is talked plugged next behalf. tell us about that. so what exactly does it say? well, the suit charges are common law fraud, basically. uh the narrative is that his lawyer promised falsely to represent is dikes, best interest in assisting him to repatriate the money. but in fact, going buying this tax back, he never intended to represent the stock, but to plot with associates, his son and 3 federal defendants. to sabotage the repatriation and take the money all or in part for himself and his compatriot. mm hm. they were re,

federal, defendants involved and plus his lawyer in the lawyer, son. now what we had here and there's congress enacted what's called the westfall act many years ago. the purpose was to try to relieve the anxiety of federal officials and thought, well, you know, if we're sue and then it puts a strain on our finances, it's going to make us less aggressive in discharging our do. so the westfall act enables the government to substitute the united states for federal defendant in cases where the federal defender in part is acting arguably to benefit in some way the united states. and so our argument was, with regard to these 3 defendants, you can't possibly be benefiting united states for you're trying to block the repatriation of billions of dollars rush by definition. i mean that's not, that's not the hard sites. and since that is

a prerequisite to claiming the benefits of the desk womack, we said no. these individuals have to defend themselves by of the judge. i thought, and the road is decision said in some sense they were trying to help the united states because they were acting in their official capacities when the wrongs occurred. well, that's true enough. they were acting in their official capacities, but not to benefit the united states. they're explaining their official capacities to sabotage the united states, to use it to enrich themselves and not the united states. mm hm. um. so that was one issue that we rejected. and then when it came to the judge common law fraud, we made a very simple fraud claim. namely, it's, you're a state of mind. someone state of mind is a fact. under the law, you represent that you're going to be faithful and honest in representing a client at the time you intend to dishonor the client's interest to sabotage the

client. you've misrepresented your state of mind. that's fraud. it's common law for it's similar in a case where you have a contract where you sign a contract knowing at the time you sign, you do not intend to fulfill your just tricking the other side to go along. and the judge, you should a ruling saying, well, we could sue the lawyers for malpractice, negligence but not very strong. i don't, i still can't understand that reasoning at all. i just flatly go and we have a case now it's on appeal to you as court of appeals for the district of columbia circuit where, you know, never where i'm optimistic they, we can prevailed here. one of the things that is interesting to me, and i've read this lawsuit and i read the responses, of course, is that the sullivans this former judge, eugene sullivan, and his son against whom the lawsuit is still pending. it's that the sullivans never dispute your allegations of fraud. they never say and their response,

we didn't steal the money. what should we take from that as well? you take the inference is that they're trying to escape on technicalities. any be justice. so otherwise, even the allegations you know, when they're unrelated and you obviously have a chance to put that in your replies. and john sullivan has submitted documents and memoranda, but is memorized and never says, i didn't do any of this. that i was his lawyer all long. i'd representative fairly . there's a that it's all around the edge. it's my own view. as a lawyer in court regularly is that there's an issue of docket, congestion, and judges often times look for excuses to get rid of cases that they don't think are high profile and no right. at least this gets off my doc and then the court of appeals can take care of. right. and i think that's what happened in this

particular case. i still cannot conceive because it's just a very, very elementary principal of common law fraud. going back 80 years at least, then this representing your state of mind can be fraudulent if you intend to violate a representation where you sale honor. and that's exactly what we allege in the complaint. when the judge sullivan said i will be your attorney to start class next signed up at the same time he was planning. that's really not what i'm going to do . i'm not going to represent him. i'm going to sabotage him to my benefits. now that's obviously something that we have to prove it trial if this went forward and goes forward. but surely it states the common law fraud claim, and the judge said, no, you know you all, you have the legs just negligence or malpractice, which seems to be quite of sir. one of the things that i've learned from you is in cases like this, the defendant has to specifically rebut the accusations that the plaintive is

making. and frankly, i was surprised when elements of this suit were were denied because. 2 rather than to say, no, i didn't do it. the response was no, you shouldn't be allowed to sue me. well, that's right. i mean, usually when you file an answer in a complaint, you have 2 of you, either a firm or deny or a firm. you know, all the factual allegations here at the defendants ran away from there to didn't even put a cow over any of the details that were set forth in that to me speaks volumes. and even though there is where you call, you know, litigation privilege. you can make statements that are rather critical of other people and litigation, not incurred defamation, but the other side is

a chance to say, by the way, none of this is true and they have ample opportunity to do that. and nothing that has happened in the lawsuit outside the lawsuit suggests that any of the narrative that we set forth is wrong. and unfortunately, justice is ledford more than mercury foot, i think will prevail, but it's not going to happen. okay. well, that's actually my next question for you, bruce is, is what's next? how long do you expect this to take? and do you expect that justice is attainable? finally for is not pleasant. i do think that's true. i think we'll probably have, you know, an argument in the us court of appeals, i believe probably sometimes in june and july, sometime in the summer. i don't think it's all that difficult. the case is probably from now, you know, 6 months before we get an opinion, i hope it reversed and it goes back at that time. there might be some kind of

settlement. i don't know. uh because the money involved is very, very large. uh, but who knows? i mean, what the landscapes gonna look like, can we for the case ends, we may have a new administration may not be buying that it may not be trust hope. a new administration would look more favorably at what we're trying to do here. as we'd be working with them to say, well, there's more money that we're repay tree. why are you turning this away? that's right. but it's, it's, it's really quite scandalous that congress has no oversight. which with, you know, they're investigating all this other stuff. it's, you know, dribble in here something i could really put a dent in the budget deficit. think and careless bruce fine, thank you so much for joining us. well, thank you for inviting me, john. thank you. why is it sometimes so hard to do the right thing?

why do governments so often stand in a way of the greater good? we can probably all agree that it's more important to do the right thing then to do things right. mark twain, the author said, quote, you're never wrong for doing the right thing on quote, but i would add that doing the right thing often takes great courage and integrity, like the courage and integrity displayed by his talk. pleasant. thank you to bruce fine for joining us today. and thanks to our viewers for being with us for another episode of the whistle blowers and john kerry onto we'll see you next. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 on the as the desktop mounts and starvation occurs, the bible administration has made it clear repeatedly that there are no red lines. no red lines need a green light to continue genocide,

genocide is of visual watson through the watching is why is and why in this country. what if i give borrowed money in the store in this they should have been a short order, but i'm not going to stay less. so could i scan when i knew what the subject georgia style session on the finance shawnee or just a bunch of mine is going to sit on what's in the the near the the to possess your country. they want to possess your you around noon. they want to possess your gas, they want to at least share why jo,

tim was good for them because he was just opening all the doors. but the problem with them is they do not understand that the connectivity sticks of people who they are dealing with as much as you press. the bear bear will come out the proverb. it'd be hard to put the bear back to his face, the entire body of rick sanchez, and you can see us right here every single day. now, i'm here to tell you something now. so after being a journalist and a news presented for the biggest television that worse in the united states, i kind of know what they do and it isn't right. i believe it's time for news to be contextual. and for truth telling it in that vein. here's, here's what we're going to be talking about today. truth bond number one. what happens after we band tick tock? what's next? and who gets to the side?

truth bottom number to deal on mos gets interrogated by don. love a gas interrogated. and i'm going to show it to you. but the most frightening story out there today has to do with boeing. it has apparently put prophets before people and their safety. so says a whistle blower who's now dead. and he left a note. the so i wanna start by asking you a question really what's with this mad dash, all of a sudden to cancel tick tock. why is the social media platform suddenly the new booty man and the country? okay, here's the official reason, a guess that they're giving us. it all comes down to china. you say lawmakers another government a patrick's in places like the united states in great britain. say that they're

concerned, but take talk at its parent company by dance. maybe using tech talk to take are sensitive user data like location and information and then use that against us a, here's a problem with that. by the way, that's something that as we have reported, is already taking place. and you know, who's doing that on media, social media sites here in united states. so you know, what much of the people live are and the conversations sounds like to me when i hear some of these old guys complaining about duck, which usually they can't even pronounce. it kind of sounds like we utterings of dinosaurs. i mean, you take a look at the people who are wanting to take it down to the dock and the by the way, i'm a fan of to the dark, but for what it's worth. it. these people were complaining about, picked tucker the same crowd that sold us the iraq war. that lied to us about how the lensky was winning the war and ukraine.