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so culture and draws ever larger gaps between people and in time nations. is there a still any medium last to pay homage to experience our share of humanity? or to discuss that i'm now joined by medical students at a world renowned serbian director and a man of many disagree and both use historical students. it's a great honor and great pleasure for me to talk to her. thank you very much for giving me the time. thank you. thinking now you are not only one of the most celebrated, but also one of the most outspoken film directors in the world. and i think that perhaps explained by the fact that you've got to your recognition very early, you've got to your 1st prize for your w cell. but i still want to ask if being so outspoken today, interferes with your ability to express those same things here. believe through seen in mind for movies, the 2 processes that were going on at the same time and the end of the century,

the voice of an artist who was having you know, anymore the social effect as it used to have in the 1st 5. because you had a 2 blocks who had a separation and which one, which is the best inside, was proving the freedom to the eastern side and when the collapse of the building will, okay. and when the soviet union was collapsing to somehow the world was getting into the bed shave regarding the freedom of speech and freedom of expression. they, the voice of an artist could have a, a universally, uh, uh, it could be heard. but if you go on the, on the local communities, you not have anymore any, any effect on the, on the, on the community that you knew. why? because the whole thing is just a celebratory system. if you're the best,

the expert in the world, if you're the best right during the you could be, sir. but the limits of this determined by proliferation of a different logical tools which are just making it so massive and the, the, the decision. what to, what to make a the 1st throw is how much is kind of this is not how much small have to this is the same story with the cinema. send them a, has a great chance now to go a big time also because there are many ways of following netflix and other platforms image. you could see films that are very ideologically strictly controlled. and the prove, in fact, that the, you know, in united states, you don't have anymore the freedom that you were looking for in the past. and at the same time, you're going to have, it's more in the east,

or at least the same level interventions. and that's the major issue then, then you know, cuz it gets to the point in which you could say it's freedom. well, your phones do touch, major issues. and many of them have a sort of historical premonition filled to that to them. but i think in this respect, underground is the most striking because back in 1995 and perhaps a little bit earlier, you intended it as your artistic account of yugoslavia as history. but today, one can watch it as a commentary on the current events, particularly the problems between russia and the west in ukraine. i, i wonder if the time you were filming it, did you have, did you see the transfer your where to pick things may go beyond your former country that they would be broader? i would, i would say that in the themes of cinema that i was going and instantly in the

beginning because i had belonged to a post punk. and i was never agreed with the most of the ideas of getting under the authority to accept the guy. and i was really a very much a boy bad boy of about canaria and including less than europe. well, that was also fashionable. it has instruction and it was a but lucky it was good because it was proofing that to be a free and somehow free in movements. the in expression of i have one idea that the culture of the receipt is something that belongs to the definition of the people who ask questions in this consumer society. people like you will have a lot of people, like all these philosophers who are making close love and the, the, we're going to take you old and you're going to be happy even you don't have nothing which is ludicrous. absolutely. but this will last the, you know,

perhaps shorter than they last them, but it depends how you will defend that actually, you know, what happens now in the that's and you can conflict. it's what was supposed to happen instead of be in $21999.00. when could i, you know, which is without you the parts of the $3030.00 that was from the pizza of the grades until the end of last year and got an employer. you had the serbian community which was defending the rest position integration, which was much smaller than it is that a and the, the end of the story was in fact uh when they started recruiting for the army of the, on the and elizabeth or they were coming to buckboard today or at your most? no sir, to be at. and it's in the end of the 20th century,

we had a program that a creations have by united states pushed out $220000.00 people, went to the survey of the biggest and the ethnic cleansing in the end of essentially. and now i see what it would have happened if we lost it was, was trying to, to, to defend service. okay. and they would put them both autonomy, bone button above it. if you go in the quite difficult way to liberate or to, to, to protect your culture or your language and everything that was forbidden you before you started. or did you know that at the time you were filming underground? did you have any sort of premonition or there's always, you know, from the road to one to the, to you have all smaller nations and serves cooler,

always paying the 2 water was going on the wrong side. but if you say wrong side today, it's not the anymore. if you are in the, in less than you know, you cannot say that is one or 2. you could say he to, there was bad guy and then you go to physics. data seems explanations, but you wouldn't get into the possibility to, to blame the people identifying with the, the nazi germany and before that to be the us to who got an empire which and full and so grace a voice in the, in the muslims, the, they were all is going with, with germany, and what happens today in the geo political mapped of a se, then you'd obviously called funny, less than bulk of why something in your, in the southeast you could do less than, less than i don't understand. but it's probably some military definition. so all

these countries were recruiting with what you had with you 3 and, you know, assess often the vision from the okay went to, to, to graduate in 1945. and if you see today, the guy who is great and then the in canada, together with the through though, because i think it's the most ridiculous leader in the world with the the lensky. they were doing, extending relation to one of those 8000 who lived there. so it speaks about human and see both and that's is and to the capitalistic or the and especially this kind of rootless line that was thrown always by electric gun and the end of this kind of close at that. presently sick idea of moving towards these, which was even names that on last most than and now at the corner of this i do is

splitting of humanity into super people and under people or splitting uh, you know, besides the into good and bad. and i think this is one of the strongest appeals, if you are the you always very methodically show that the good and evil are always intertwined, both in the human psyche and in politics. and in my opinion, one of the reasons we are where we are is this not just the claim of dominance by the west, but the claim of moral superiority, or some russian court. the mandate of in full ability. the west believes authentically that they are on the right side of history. i'm can make no mistakes, and i don't think that wouldn't be possible for the russians or for the service because of our tradition of sort of luminous soul searching. we do see our shadow. we do see our evil in ourselves. that's what you know, our literature, our films are open about. but what i want to ask you about is, why do you think the west of this point is not only capable of that,

but does it so genuinely believing that all the good is preserved for, for the west and all the bad is on russia side. it's the question of abandoning cushion, it's the only religion that has a social expression in social meaning, you know, there is no other religion that gives you a chance to develop secular states. you have a secular states in the israel, which was develop things to the best and improvements or eastern improvement. and thanks to the you've seen in where the 5th century has phones the low. and he was the 1st one who made the, the code, the low code, and from a 1054, we have this, a 2 types of sites is separated. one that goes up to the, to the, uh, the restaurant and which is impossible. that's why you have a crisis today because they believe that the,

everything the same scale also says the rational conclusions are never made just but by it actually. now let's see a people, a man is never so rational that could be just following the protestant ideas. plus, what do we have today? this kind of unity of the action that is taken by those who believe the privilege which is a process. the zion is a church and in america and the, and the common sense of messianic idea they found. and that's why we always suffer . but in suffering we find a way to defend themselves and in the be leaving the privilege, the superior a nation chosen people. however, they closed, even they could throw finish 3 that even jesus maddox and everybody was coming from this part of the world. but there was no just what the a mathematically believe it is. absolutely. well, mr. castillo, so we have to suffer a very short break. right now, but we will be back in just

a few moments facing the the, or

the welcome back to world reports, 5th serve and director and medical started to distinguish the rest of before the break. you started talking about the rationality and there are certain things that are simply inexplicable to me. for example, the, the issue of fear in europe. because russia is greatly feared in abstract. it's considered to be a great that of me right now. but recently, for example, our team got hold of that wire, top conversations of german military commanders, official german military commanders discussing the bombing of the crime in bridge. and there seems to be no fear of remish locations that russia would be necessary to respond to something like that. how do you understand the, the workings of this in motion of theory in the european psych you today because it seems to be very present at a certain level and to,

to absent at other levels. i don't think that the, this is, the humanity was always people who are always good thing, fear under the carpet and feel the fire comes very close to them. but you have to these, one of which is at least a bunch better informed. you have a ability to penetrate into the territory of your enemy. the problem in the last, i think is that you russians of what you want to live a life, which is tons of those more or less like any invest in the country. you liked to be, oh everybody and everybody. if you go to task and you don't believe that you are in the east part of the world and apparently walks down the city just seen as the building is the same, like, like the other. so this is one point, but the other one is that the, this superiority that they have is mainly expressed through the position they

want to possess your country. they want to pause your, you around you, they want to possess your guys. they want to at least share why you haven't seen it was good for them because he was just opening all the doors. but the problem with them is they do not understand that the, the, the, the, the, the, the connectivity sticks of people who they are dealing with as much as you press there. the better will come out. the problem will be how to put better back to, to his place, and this is a plane. this is a very dangerous game. i think they play. well, i think it's different, dangerous, but it is also a, it's dangerous for the bear itself because i, i hear a lot of discussions here in russia and people do not understand how to do with europe. rationally. we talked about the french and the germans before, and they happened to be the people who once send their armies to russia to that own device. i am talking about the 19th and the 20th century,

and now the french and the germans. yet again, a leading discussions within the e mail about sending major troops to russia, even though russia is much larger than the new and much better equipped is strategically also much more, much better prepared. so i wonder if you have any sort of advice i guess for the russian leadership on how to deal with you, or because they seem to be a well just a rational. but sometimes they caught a family. why would you deal with the video? because, you know, i mean, based on nature trips to, uh, this is great and this decision that goes on united states, you know, if the entity of european union is getting into the new phase of getting rid of the same energy. it means that there is a big mistake inside this system. jeff bezos is selling stuff through amazon

and making a profit. the 44000000000 invest in europe and thing though, texas a google never paid one penny of texas microsoft. something smaller. so we are speaking about the tools which open a to today's world. i think it also has to work on its own google, on its own system and the network which is going to make your 3030 much morning dependence of them. that's the, the, the, the, the french and german idea is not the french and german idea. it's a heavy duty, a deep state that is organized through the channels that function for the last 300 years and making you more or less lately, not from the beginning of a alternative from throwing washington and from the, from the, from the people who govern them. so when i think this is a to spread the fear or this is

a tough american decision to go the way that napoleon was going, he was going and then we know what will happen. now let me it will self care about serve in because i think one of the victims of russia supposed to visa view your country is try not to be more serve in them to serve. in other words, have boundaries, wants to sit onto stools and accidentally falls in the middle. let it be, it has to face the consequences of its own decisions. but there's also recognition that russia has historical ties, when distorted, been people rather than currents or been that leads and those have to be maintained . how do you see a mature, respectful relationship between val, great and moscow at this time? what shouldn't be like? you know, what i believe is one thing, what leads and people who are dealing with the economy also an influence or

influence or but you know, every country has a lead invest and you know, very somehow is connected to the, the source of a good then economic relations a national has a great great experience of serbia in 1990. and i think most of the elements because either before we was 1000 minutes reputation, ukraine was coming out of the bombardment of bell rates. so it's better to be making a chest movement before somebody comes. that's why they are very, very angry with the rest. so that's why they're making the russians uh, the, the biggest evil on the other. but this is what was part of the previous question. chris tennessee is connected to the bible to biblical times, biblical times behind the rest and world. and in alaska,

you are still sleeping about how much of this kind of commodity life comfort, the real life will allow you to be as much of the looks as you are. but i think you're going to have a choice because you stick to the rules of the game that were given to you from the beginning of 7 to essentially, you cannot go, you can go backwards and say not. i am not or looks like this. you lose the pattern, meet the of the future. what is the put them into the future? well, the civilizations, what the printer with is into its own religion, they will prevail. now one of the specifics of orthodox christianity of it's in my view is this emphasis on inner honesty. you know, you have to know what or to let yourself know what you know about yourself and the world. and this is something that allows or mundane the incorporation of also your own ego and practical working on the evil inside of your soul. and this

is a hard proposition in this day and age when we well, many people leave narcissistic. or as you said, very materialistic life, but at the same time, there are many other people in many other parts of the world tool seem to be a resume thing with this, with this message, do you think it can be attractive? let's say it's not, not for the western part of the, perhaps for other parts of the world. i think the major issue is how your heart resonate, what kinds of frequencies in your heart prison is izzy or humans. i mean, we all have 1314 chevrolet floors. humans belong to different cultures and this is a no very sharp division in between those who belong to one culture or another. and is you, are, you belong to the religion events, the given chance to redeem yourselves to, to, to forgive, to, to have all this protocol that a consenting is. and it's just an after life,

i mean, or steps christianity or promises in today right now? yeah. they you good luck with you a good 1st year. so if you could just to get a good clean yourself and try to do. and that's the biggest issue, a is a, the, the individuals are facing today. if you don't believe in god as a even kind of mazda of says everything is possible, if you believe in god, and that's what is the danger, is i think the rest of the world is counting on, put in as a cushion. and i'm, i'm afraid that they also calculate the caesar eastern christian. he might be not be using the most devastating weapons. well, he and better not. uh, but uh, as i say, okay, i but the, this calculation was one of the reasons why they pushed so much into your brain because they didn't think that he would go into your cream, given the tours between the rock. but you know that she was always come little bit

late, but they always come. this is one of the, one of the premises that we have in the balkans. you know, you have a very vivid, a social, every 9 in serbia, which you have exactly the same number of people on televisions. inputs goes close speaking for us and again special ed and those who speak against us that are part of this plan is gonna be bigger to serbia. is that sort of is our, which is a part of me to, of, i would say very diplomatic, a very diplomatic approach. but diplomatic approach is not essential approach to, to, to the hardcore problems that we have. a rush, a must be sometimes the bigger so being then so be as uh because the, the, the, as in the pony and it was saying that we don't have to allow russia to have a finger of then you blew it. so, connection in between serbia and,

and the russia is very much, deeply rooted into the history. is the history of k e not in sylvia. which was it is the water for the new soldiers hoover and the end of the existence of today and that were supposed to be under her guardian glow and lose all their property. and they started making what to us gold instead of being who sort of ski, polk the people who came to the us to almost or know a saturday and creating society over there and fighting for, for, for russian. now i don't have a time to ask you about the, your current or just to pursue. so i want to ask just one short question. you seem to be a very uh, well, quite pessimistic in your commentary. uh noon. is there anything or what to give you and then give them the same situation for i'm gonna spare sophistic like this day of school was, you know, this is he was speaking very often about the,

even about the war or something that comes as a necessary of the way that people communicate and boost a laptop at the rate, the boys, the they fight against the deck of those fights against old, but is in the peaceful time of what's going on. i'm the, i'm, i'm a skeptical. but other than the pessimistic the walls will be separated in 10 years in a between i would say this kind of people who believe into a know god's, the satanic, i think the somehow the, the, the, the devil will prevail because there is no, it's like a male: a female relationship. if you have a quality, then you lose the balance, then there is no balance. but if you, if you stop thinking in 2 minutes or 40 color, well the bible image of jesus was

a then tempted by the devil. and if you start thinking that being that really is a good one of another prize winner told me, you're never a, you'll never get a demon. absolutely out of you, because it's important to be kind of resistant to him by having be so few inside. and now if the developments will be with the old is the new religions with all this stuff in to the developing in the west? the question will be which parts of the of us will be giving the singing those for their own civilization? and i see more and more pessimistic, toyota optimistically, that has to a 3 way on, on pro, texting its own civilization because of this separation in between, within the real issue of separate it's probably, it's mistaken. but if you allow yourself to gets rid of what is bad in you and

try to be a making a common sense with the rest of the people by doing the same. then you have this kind of collective analysis that the chinese had the before, even individuals of it actually is exactly half way road in between. as a society that is developing in the individual development and the freedom which is the bed and in the rest. and collectivism, which is the church absolutely say, well we are striving for the balance between personal dignity and social connect. sometimes i think this is you know, ultimately what the oldest society is trying to figure out. but we have to leave it . there has been an amazing talking to you. thank you very much for the close of us

. thank you for watching. hope to hear again. well the part the, the american presence of the territory of the republic of these. yeah, he's the legal hand, while a sold the constitutional and democratic rules, all of our offensive station data in asia mosley, the nation. but immediately, as the west often could be because of health, i'd love the ukrainian attempting to reach the border region of feldwood to people in the field in a row that strikes on the go ahead across the biggest country of the world have been heading out to cost of votes for the 2020 full