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me as well following this alex, i see you again. see the, [000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm peter level divide. ministration is allowed israel's genocidal assault on guys that can become of her risk. expect a call for the entire world to watch. the lesson ministration knows exactly what is
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real is doing, and what it wants to achieve. biden is a willing participant to this unforgiving crime, the cross talking palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal and media analyst in columbus. we have missed the winston season, active as an host of the action for a science, comcast and in rest. and we have michael maloof fee is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, or at cross lock rules in effect. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated. what's the michael to be go to you pressure, let's just talk about that dynamic now between the, by the administration and the government have nothing. yeah. who? who's leading? who? who's making this suggestions? who's following? oh, excuse me. let me interrupt myself. politico is just reported, but this year a packs
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a pack is reportedly prepared to spend $100000000.00 to defeat candidates who are not, quote, sufficiently supportive of israel. is that the answer to my question? it's mike. well, i think it. yeah, i think it is, uh it, it clearly shows that netanyahu is in charge. he has threatened to go into wrap up, for example, which is where most of the palestinians are, are, are cooked up into right now. and he doesn't seem to care about their, their safety in any way, shape or form. and the bind administration is saying this morning, well, we, we, we are against that we, we are opposed to you doing that. well, what are you going to do about it? they're doing nothing, they're doing nothing and nothing. yeah. who knows that they will do nothing. and that's a big given that kind of strength. it's not only that, it's not only this rarely lobby and the congress, but it's also the defense contracting lobbies that are pushing for the united states to, to stay the course with the, with israel because they make the money. they're making tons of money off of this
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and that consequently, they're the ones who are, that's why you're not going to get see anything done. and i think that netanyahu, knowing that he has the administration by, uh, by the tail here. uh, he's, he's not going to, he's got to continue on in phelps, preserve his political standing, as well as his personal safety because of his government falls. and he has to read yes, extremely radical cabinets that that is saying the if you, if you don't do what we tell you to do, we're going to drop out. and that will break down his government. he can't afford to. yeah, well he's a michael, his, his treatment of the united states as benefactor is actually helping him in his real people are rallying around. sure, though he's very much disliked here. so the, the law of unintended consequences as it were, you know, missed the tech to types. chuck schumer came out with what people say, it was a game changer. you know, it was that, uh, it was actually very pathetic because again,
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it's just kind of wagging your finger. and again, american foreign policy always likes to personalize. it's, you know, it's, she, it's, it's, it's nothing. yeah, no. okay, and the case of israel, it's the policy is of these really state and it is called zionism. okay, that is the problem here. but either the fact that schumer did make his statement, again, was quite pathetic. he's painfully aware that the by the administration is with genocide on the ballot. misty 100 percent. yes, you're right peter, and i think that that's all that this was from chuck schumer, it was election year pandering. i think that the democratic party is very well aware of the pulling numbers and the approval. we're seeing that president biden is suffering through right now. and i think that they are doing their very best to try to walk that fine line where they give the tepid criticisms and they do the finger wagging that you mentioned towards benjamin netanyahu. and the policy of the is really government currently in gaza and the west bank and and rossa,
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and really just palestine in general. but i think that yeah it is, it really, it equates to nothing more than election your parents. and if they actually meant any of the things that they were saying, the united states could very quickly draw this thing to a conclusion very quickly. all i would need to do is in the aid, military and economical aid to israel. and this thing would be over with, within a week, there is no way it is real quick. it could continue the onslaught and the slaughter of palestinians without the aid of the united states. and so i think that it's just really cynical. i see. no, it just that election, you're pandering, i think i'm, we're going to see that continue as the desperation sets. yeah. in lieu of action, you're going to get a lot more words. that's all they know how to do is to talk the talk that i, you know, line or, you know, these air drops of ready made food. and then the peer idea which came from the israeli side, came from netanyahu, not from the bye, didn't ministration. here. i mean, i, you know, joe biden is pathetic on a good day, but when he's in front of the media, they can't even press them hard enough to say, well, you're gonna have your box, you're giving weapons. basically all the bomb civilians and you're dropping food
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from there. what's your priority here? you can't, you can't believe in both simultaneously line. you know peter, we, we've had a bridges in our country and thought it was one where just collapsed. i think you're still waiting for that because all the red tape, and i think the by the ministration gave a 200 k for the van up syndrome which doesn't exist. so it's weird about try to get something done in this country, but i'd rather say something before. i forget, you know, we never talked about the republicans, and i would ask you, i'm sure you've seen it. there was a recent interview with jared cooper. so i was gonna mention it, all right, they go ahead, you still owe it. perfect. we always go with it. either. go ahead. you always re find mine. what do we have 10000 miles away and you do it to be here. me right, go ahead and hit me in gordon lights. what if you could read your mind? he talked about garza and geron kosher been without missing a beat. said, you know, that's a great place for us that i took note of this waterfront property. you said,
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you know, had they use the money instead from building tunnels and use it for education, things would have been better. he said, garza is, is very valuable waterfront property. and he said, and for whatever reason, there were refugees. and he said, gaza is a con struck just like this, this idea, this is 4000 years from the days of pompei alexander the great. and by the way, the antiquities again that, that, that were, were missed and, and lost and destroyed and very, and just finally, when they said well, what about dealing with the palestinian authority? oh no, no, no, no that that would not be a good idea. no, no, we're not going to do this and, and there's this, there's this, the idea that, and i'm just going to, i don't want to hug this, but he said that if you were to, in any way, deal with the policy needed authority or talk, this would be encouraging them, rewarding the. now imagine if, if,
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during the course of any other war, if during germany, somebody says, you know, berlin has a wonderful waterfall. i mean, this now, and i tell people for this is the republic. if you always knew they were certainly felt a certain symbolical with the the is really government, but waterfront property. yeah. the red line over the line of this goes back to what we've been talking about now for a half a year on this program. and i'm always thankful when you come on, but the, the, the, what, what these really lobby has wanted to do, and what it wants every american to think in terms of zionism and that's why it crosses the party lines. ok. i mean, let's, let's jared cushion the, i'd hope we had seen the last of them. but this is what he said. he said this at the kennedy school of government. ok, this is a praise is quote, very valuable potential of gods is waterfront properties here, michael, but that is the mindset of the leads that we have. we, i mean, i don't care about republican or democratic whatsoever. they're but they're,
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they're equally bad in toxic for american politics. but that's the mindset you and i watched the video right before i came to the studio and it's very commonly done. it's a matter of fact that this is a real estate problem. michael. well forward for cushion or he's personal friends, family friends with the net and you know, so he's going to back him a 1000 percent. does that mean that trump is going to be following him? but before i get into that, that's something that's for another conversation. but the, the, the, the, what, what schumer demonstrated was something intriguing. these basically saying that they gripped the democratic party of walk is and then what have you doesn't agree with the principles. now that net, that net yahoo in israel are following of, of kelly and everybody and, and this, uh, uh, why fi, why fi, not the wiping this genocide that's, that's a current that gets our values. and he also sees an election coming up. and the democrats are, are, are split, especially the younger people as
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a consequence against the, by the administration. and i think schumer is, is worried that the, that, that the, that the events are heading in this direction. adversely affecting the democratic party at this point. and this is why he was basically coming up the way he was, but, but all in all they do support the concept design is the talk. we talked about a jewish state. he wants, he still wants the jewish state concept and no other religion of the world. has a country to itself, nobody, we're really lucky to have missed the here to kind of represent because of the, the 3 gentlemen on the program are much, much older here. mistakes. i give you a proposition here with younger people in your cohort. for example, if they know that they're being lied to about a genocide that's being committed in real time, which you can watch live if you so which, but you people of your generation, if they get a lie to about this wouldn't be fair to assume
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a lie to about everything else. yes and clear. well, i love you and thank you so much for saying that. i'm sure i'm not all that young, so i'm not, no, i'm not like a gen z or anything like that. so i can't speak to that generation and how they're viewing this from a personal level. but i know that my generation, i mean, we lease for my own experience. we have kind of grown up in the, the age of technology and we've seen that kind of lost them. and i think that that's what's so interesting about what's happening here is that with the advent of social media, we are in fact able to watch this play out real time. and i think what's also really important is that not only are we able to watch it play out in real time, but we're able to debunk the lies in real time. and i think that there have been numerous coming from israel. and i think that has really been a fact of in my generation and probably with the younger generations as well because they are so as they like to say, terminally online that i think that that has really broken the seal that's kind of lifted the veil off of zionism and off the state of israel because so many of the lies have been exposed. and then that is cause people to go back and look at previous instances and previous sets of propaganda that we have been uh, you know,
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for said through the is really government. i think that that's really what's most significant here is a israel has for sure. lost control of the narrative this time around. yeah, but i mean, it is it, it, but this is going to make people act. i mean, you can, you can tune out if you want because that's what a lot of americans do. they just tune out ok, but this is making people pro active, the number of people writing in uncommitted is amazing. misty. yeah, no, you're absolutely right. and i think that that's what, so i think it gives me a little bit of optimism because i think that although there are a significant amount of people who are too dot, i think that those who are paying attention are going to be those who go in vote, and i think that that's going to really be too um we're already seeing, as you just mentioned, that there's a significant percentage of the population that are voting and committed. and i think that that is sending a really strong message. i hope that people hold, hold on hold. i thought i have a break in here. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break,
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we'll continue our discussion on power. so i'd stay with our team. the both of these 2 children did even if we pd with the story, ok, school level, the use of solutions stuff. you see the shifting. it's because each time she's going to collect look stupid to photocopy slip, to describe the, the dizzy on this before they have to do these to make sure that you create, excuse that, arguing as much as 40 stories of disposable cleaning some the doors and not say that the, which it's done, it's conflicting the thoughts about pushing of centuries ago. your forebears name this country ukraine or frontier
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because your steps blink, europe, and asia, the ukrainians, that become frontiersman of another story. the people will be able to see this one is which of the most of them there's always, you know, going to try to jump to the most goals. they would have been there. and i said, i don't have their logistical 90 point on the post, co pays gift a 2nd to know how to create a new up under the same rom. just don't have to shape house and engagement equals the trail.
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when so many find themselves will to part, we choose to look for common ground the welcome back across stock where all the things are considered. i'm peter live, i'll remind you we're discussing palestine the let's go back to line on the i want to talk about this up here or this floating bridge that, uh, uh, biting, uh, apparently came up with that to me. it has to be, as well as a very, you know, the way it's been described in the main stream is that it's, you know, purely humanitarian. but if you think about it, it's just a way to get people out and not aid in, but to force people out. so getting rid, expelling the palestinian spill very much on the agenda and abide ministration appears to be bought into an idea a well this like to move to cyprus or what you know, what kind of nonsense is this?
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i mean, the longer you think about it, the more dangerous is essentially what these really government wants to do is it wants american military personnel to be part of that process of expelling people that they do is they want to make sure the united states is just as comfortable as the israeli government, lionel, the peter, as i told you, uh the, the sub tech. so my contribution is called view from the victory fall. and there is a couple, there is a couple of things here that you will never hear or any kind of mainstream media. number one the word zionism, you'll hear eschatology before you hear that. as far as this notion of the as far as the notion of the, of the peer, i don't think anybody really grasps that. i don't think anybody really sees that one for different reasons. but i want to say one thing if i could, if, if you don't mind, there's this other attempt that people are trying to, uh, engage in, in the media and, and then i appreciate them. but they're remind me of this voice from the past here . oh no to this is
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a japanese gentlemen who didn't know world war 2 was over and for 30 years he was hiding in the philippines. there are people, i'm sorry, who are still talking about 1948 and battle for and distinctions between special intent and all, especially ours. and whether you can prove general in terms of, it's just like listen, i'm saying folks, imagine during world war 23, hitler, we're arguing, we're debating national socialism. and this is that there is right now destruction the, the, the elimination, the destination, the evaporation of a people. yeah. and we're talking about have we thing, but this and yet we have no prioritization. we have no sense to emerge to word an emergency room. and we have this patient who's dying of an apparent heart attack and i turned you to michael or miss new york or peter. and i say, you know, i think his diary probably had a lot to do with this or maybe less as a version today. what are we doing? how we're talking about everything, but there's a eventually,
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and i'm sorry to say there's one day that will say by the way, breaking news. there is no more god, there's nobody there. this is moment while you were talking about the waterfront property and the son died in these parts of the dead and the, the i j. c versus the international committee and they're gone. yeah, but a little bit light light over here. you're absolutely right. and that's a very smart way of approaching a big michael. the rest of the world will not forget. that is the difference here, michael, we're, we're, we're seeing in real time ethnic cleansing. we read about it in history books, but we're actually seeing it. and it's being done at, at the, by the, at the hit by the hands of the very people who yelled holocaust all the time. there was a holocaust. and i've seen remnants of that myself in the past. but the reality is that these folks are committing the very same crimes that were perpetrated on them . and they are and,
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and no one is standing up and doing anything about it. and yet we're really standing in real time because of, of, of, of videos and, and what have you, that and, and, and media that we have available today. and we're sick, we're seeing these war zones live in many cases. and, and people are horrified by what they're seeing. and yet we're being told by the, in a bind administration in particular, don't believe you're lying eyes in the years. what, what, what, what kind of crap is that? and, and, and we see it with, we see it with the uh, with, with the white house communications people who, who, who, you know, see this all the time. and we just say, are you kidding me? are you sending me? we're saying this, don't it what, whatever his name is a walking about the law. it was orderly, which was it was not or were you miss it? miss you?
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it was a jump here. what's her name? make range on here. yeah. yeah. i mean, yeah, she said quite info is leave a few months ago that she is history. i would, i would have to correct her and say yes, you are in a historic administration because what is it going to take mostly do they, do they have to put gas chambers and gossip or people to believe it's a genocide? i don't know. honestly, i honestly feel very bad for somebody like cream shop here. i can imagine trying to have her job and come up with the amount of oh, i don't know. i don't feel sorry. she knows exactly what she's doing, sees and dropping wood, which she knows what she's doing. go ahead for sure. yeah. you're, you're absolutely right. but i think that, um, you know, really what it is, what is so interesting to me is that as you just said, it is playing out on the, on the world stage in broad daylight, everybody's watching. it is being live streamed. i don't think we've ever had an instance of a genocide being the live stream to the world. and i think that the idea that people are still denying that it is taking place is it mostly fascinating to me is depressing,
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but it's also fascinating. the psychology behind just as the psychology of you know, the fact that it's the, it's jewish people, really the zionists, we need to be very clear that there is a distinction between the 2 sciences and it's not judaism. and there's a lot of conflation between those 2 terms. there are very different things, but the, the, what you're watching our teach a national rush, it has conveyed the un security council meeting to discuss the ukraine conflict. let's listen into this session. we just disbanded and that's why sit here today with the white poppy on my lapel to remember and to represent all the victims of war. it's my hope that being here today, i could represent those who do not very often have a voice at this table. i was last in this building as
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a cub scout when i was 10 years old. that was 1983 same years and now well documented near nuclear war between the united states and the soviet union. not for the actions of one man as september. i might not have had the opportunity to grow up and live my life. none of you would have either. may god bless the memory of staff, love petroff. as 8 years later, in 1991 same year, i graduated high school. the soviet flag came down the kremlin and the cold war ended. collectively, we have been given the potential, the world no longer divided into 2, oppose nuclear or camps. the reality of that potential prove short lived. and now here we sit. no safer in arguably at a greater risk of nuclear war that in 1983 looking back that lost potential for a world that could have been a list as a bitterness,
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part of anger and part despondency that cast the grave and sorrowful shadow over this institution in the past 30 years, the number of nuclear, our nations has grown arms, trees, and broken, including unilaterally and without mirror, by my own country, monetization nuclear forces by all parties have cause greatly increasing destructive capability of missile and bomb or fleets. so even though the numbers in yields of nuclear weapons have diminished, improved accuracy has increased the destructive power of those fleets. there are warheads designated as usable nuclear weapons. disturbingly, we have generals diplomats and politicians who believe such things exist. the dissolution of arms control talks following the abrogation of the treaties, leaves us with nuclear on powers. that not only do not have the mechanisms to
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restart talks, but also do not have the means to talk even during a crisis. that speaks nothing of the lack of political will or the immense ms trusts between the nuclear powers. i have been speaking of the nuclear weapons at the top, wrong of the escalation latter. today is the weapons being used in ukraine that are leading us to that top wrong, which is an apocalyptic point of no return. as the us and middle strategy for the warning ukraine has been 2 pronged economic and military. neither have worked and neither will work. as a strategy has failed, it is not then revisited, replaced or remanded, or reinforced. thus, we have seen a steady wave of escalation for 2 years. us and its allies never considered diplomacy a needed 3rd prong, which should have been the primary and dominant effort. diplomacy was openly disparaged and repudiated. this was appalling diplomatic malpractice. and now as
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a consequence, we sit here today as the killing, the destruction and the suffering and they're, they're 26 months. the reality and warfare is that whatever new technology or tactic you introduce your enemy will counter it. and more often than not does so, and then that's good to worry manner to which you respond and kind. it is circular by nature, but also linear. hence the information infamous escalation latter, you escalate or you deescalate. there is no neutral or parallel option. ukraine is no exception to this attack. the coach bridge were below up north stream pipeline and russia attacks ukrainian energy infrastructure and port facilities. so in high more as rockets in storm shot and missiles to ukraine and russia introduces glide, bonds, and hypersonic weapons. a monday present improvement announced the rushing gold buffer zones and ukraine, presumably territory to the west of the next bill bloss that will be taken as
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a response to the extended range munitions and f. 16 fighters to be provided to ukraine. in recent weeks, multiple nato's heads of state and their generals, most prominently the french have openly called for the appointment of nato combat units to ukraine. the russian response has been to remind us of their nuclear capabilities. this is an escal tory game for fools and madmen. so we are lucky, we have made it this for the arguments for continue this war, reside in the domain of those whom the american political scientist see, right. mills labeled crack talk real is in the 1st decade of the cold war. it, those cracked part realistic had the good sense not to engage in a war like ukraine. and both sides have leaders like jack kennedy and the key to cruise. jeff and ronald reagan and mikhail gorbachev. men who had the courage in integrity to negotiate. i do not condone or support russians of asian,
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although provoked is a preemptive war that violates international law and is a huge error. however, it must be noted that russia attempting negotiations in 202120222023 efforts that may have prevented concluded or frozen this war. if those diplomatic o offers had been responded to in kind, this war is a brutal in on winnable meat grinder. the toll is shocking and disgusting. it is a moral har. hundreds of thousands of casualties and 10000000 refugees in calculus, environmental and infrastructure damage. eastern ukraine is the land, the populated, devastated and destroyed its fields and towns are saturated with mines, unexploded ordnance and a toxic residue of modern mor poisons. it's air, land, and water. generations of unborn ukrainians will pay for this war,
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either in land made uninhabitable or through mothers who give birth to dead. deformed and disabled babies. as the representatives here from a rock, cambodia, louse, vietnam, and other nations. if you believe war ever comes to an end, i believe the representative from algeria can tell you about what land mines do to of people in the land. as the best latoria trajectory of this war points to a risk greater than any one should be willing to accept. this institution must do everything in its power to preclude any further escalation of this war and everything possible to force a ceasefire and initiate a political process for all lasting peace. if a ban on the transfer of weapons and munitions into this war is what is needed, the forces ceasefire negotiations. and so it must be this security council must have slept the responsibility of this moment, an act and this existential peril we face. finally,
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i wish to make a plea to abolish to you and security council vito. whatever justifications a veto may have had speeches and self serving as they often were. the ongoing genocide and gaza has forever notified such arguments. claims may at this table that to protect civilian lives, seats far resolutions must be vetoed or as for well and as your search is made in washington dc. and telling me that genocide is self defense. as the palestinian people are being defiled and destroyed for 5 months, c, u. s. has the 5 the world providing diplomatic cover and unlimited military assistance of israel as a carriers out. it's fund fully genocide in palestine. in order for this institution of honor, it's found and commitments and principals, the permanent member veto, must be abolished. never again. should a nation be able to protect occupation oppression apartheid in genocide. madam
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president, again, thank you. hi, pam, please. the whole for his briefing. i now give the floor to those council members who wish to make statements. i give the full to the representative of the russian federation. and i'm just putting up incidentally suppose up into the president for the images that we wish to think are briefers of the russian federation believe that it is very timely to once again convene in this chamber to discuss the question of the ongoing western deliveries of weapons and military equipment to ukraine, and the consequences of the situation when it comes to seeking a peaceful solution to new brand new crisis. this is particularly important i made of the rhetorical escalation of the sponsors of the cube machine regarding the conflict and ukraine and the manifestation of new evidence about the wrecked

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