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welcome to worlds apart from cancelled culture to be canceling of culture. the western boy called on all things russian has led to paralysis, so far as to stick exchangers, further amplifying this schism created by diplomatic animosity and economic sanctions of give them the music or dance have always been able to permit language and ideological barriers. on the indeed powerful influence tools to be controlled or if needs be visualized. open discuss that. i'm now enjoying by you if i should have a russian conductor and a world renowned by list, you're never noticed or boss smith. thank you for finding the time. thank you. for having me of over the past couple of years, which has been sad about council culture, especially the down to cancel a high russian culture in the west. i have a truck in restaurant. this is often dismissed as clumsy and ridiculous, but i'm sure you will agree that culture, especially music,
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has the power to directly influence the human soul. so when you're born can age subconscious part as well as it conscious. one is therefore an effectively to of leverage re so my question is, is this bound on russian culture really? so irrational is a pretty open that are cisco 1st on. yep. we're viewed in terms of feel certain was a company, that's good musicians still play phone rushing music most the russian plays exactly as though it's if that was still been staged at them. that was so curious whether it was high autism that can not be any cancellation, and those who have to cancel something. i don't want to insult anybody, but what they've done is stupid. there's simply more on some stuff because i'm canceling. russian music means cancelling a great part of the human. so in general, the new movie, no, doesn't matter what nationality. you all whole where you live at this deal and it's easy to see why they did it. very easy because our politicians,
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some politicians are for smaller people with and lots of sole. and it tastes from music. while others, new movies have no such taste of sydney focused on hating russia and you know, movies, goose, end up or repaired them to go all the way. yes, i think it's stupid. no, because of. so do you think um, cuz it's plain stupidity really or do you believe this some motive, the like limiting access to russian performers because they may be still with lane some rushing musical, but access to russian performers is severely limited in the was tell from the point and from the present way to watching logan was a come to for those are lots of russian musicians. i don't use that i have been living abroad for long to understand is the see if we still the educated and told here in russia you got the most the 0 to and i think that listeners who can still understand the true spirit or russian music game was
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a just the great until recently the segment of russian culture and most popular in the west. what hi, culture like music belay, or fine arts. and such things usually require a certain depth where they're usually much easier to implement towards not just give intelligence when you pull, but people with a great depth of perception. do you think that this kind of help with the curriculum across disability to distinguish between define nuances of meaning is something that's still a relevant in the world today? because we've, i think, as long as we'll leave the shuttle feelings will remain relevant. and yet, because when we know, quote unquote transition to a i the most, then we can meet again it and discuss this most book a as long. however, as our intelligence is human, as low as i was official, zullie,
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as long as we are living people to can yesterday, and that is visit that some will remain relevant emotions. because see as low as the complex structures of our souls re entering our face on our minds to be as we may of this connection was a come to be talking about the authors, some musicians a that i've found this connection between the rational approach really then this is a logical one, was the welcome on where your brain controls your hand movements. for instance, the last 2 of were actors and singers, intonations. but that's still something that's far away from what's a i can do as easy as close at the or do you mentioned a i which is a perfect segue to my next question. can was my person, somebody taught the right way, but i just think it's not what ours are across to propaganda is about teaching people to think in a certain way. do you think it's possible to teach people the right way to feel
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this thing when i'm going to teach everyone the right way to fields to pick them with sudden words and of course, with the major lee proved towards all professional intelligence and progressive. impose on the conference between each person, phase 2 on the sum total of his or hers unique characteristics where they were born, how they were raised, what these cookies experienced in their childhood. got a little of what joy's or sad moments they experienced that she knew and it will be made of this, that house with the civil. it was clear understanding of what screwed and what's bad. so the 1st of the clue what the mom and dad told them was to mom of me. but my mom, for example, i'm trying to figure out the most. i was interested in this to movie, but i had to move this going to anybody. i don't need sense. i probably didn't show a particular interest in anything she movie, but the chicken try and different things with me. you. so like brain thing, sports,
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there's a, by the way, are used to defense things get into it. that was a promising young sensor. know the filter my mist, cuz then someone told my mom that sensing was bad for my residents because they lose the flexibility. they need to play the violin to manipulate the bo. so my mom made me stop. go into the fence and breakfast more did spc while i just remembered that my childhood music teacher still teaches in odessa to be at. and that was her last name is natal. i'm a concerned with the committee, but she doesn't go to the conservatory anymore. she has students come to her place, the good she's quite old, as you can imagine, most of the me, the link below that music school is named us with a great field are spelled out sky beach may 1st parts of the russian violence coal deal, which in turn begins as influenced many legendary violinists in the west, in the united states and on other countries. and simply do you think people still remember that today with them that the cross pollination between cultures that
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because it's hard to deny that russian culture has influenced world culture. and yet we see what's going on here for most of us. but it was, that's a great question, google's because if you cancel the russian culture that i'm interested, oh, you must and cancel it, influence as well. and that is there still put it in? that would mean suspending was you means holding cultural development daughter could do this and that's a really good question to switch the most. uh, i believe that even the power of the russian musics, coal street, it appears that more than as low as mean. can you say this mentality to is a trendy to him wishes to the advantage of the russian school was musical thinking . it was the kind of name was the that's what it is that they've been. that's what they just saw. a tradition that has been handed down by some great musicians by shore. and even nikki, i think a great artist is not just someone who hasn't grades, to click on the stupid, but is always the unique personality. now an innovator and a maverick,
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a few world introduction. see if there's room. i have actually heard the saying that a great artist is an instrument with and without the inspiration plays on. yeah. and your career football season, roof of that only choice, but you were born into a family that was in physical, a tall. i'm a a you just mentioned to your mother trying to figure out what your talent and your calling word press. so what would be your advice to all of yours? so maybe not musicians on how to still drink from that spring of inspiration to feel fully alive of 70. and nope, we'd be able to shift to 1st of which, you know, the, the quick me and there are many those documents by which i mean records. so you would need the cheaper say we're talking about the micro chips and you know, just to date, we'll say days. no video records for sure. absolutely. i don't think that's someone
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who has no connection to me is like a good good people. just go ahead and buy a records, a couple of good ways of a performance by a legendary musician who's a company. so that's not the way quickly. so what's my advice would be wise mom, give them for that or if up. yeah, because i wish i told you about this on our ski school in odessa, which is still there. it's still instant ascii said good for them. i don't need tell them to children. i need to tell him said, months went through. and of course, again, my parents were not musicians and they have nothing but my mom had a great to hear from us. like she took some piano lessons when she was young. and i asked her why she had given them up and she said she didn't have enough patients for long practice sessions, up up of upstairs who, who just from my dad lives, throwing it to the work to is that a tronics, you know, and it will be particularly that he had a great voice on me as well as soon as it turned out, i had some musical ability. when you have this good to do, please,
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my grand admittedly sent over a piano because a kids learning music with the domain, you can't live in a home without a piano, a pop up and my dad took a tie. this work, of course, things, but still tell me the phillips are coming home from work that he learns how to play something yet. let's go. so that would accompany him on the piano playing by ear one. so you need tell them to the parents who wants the children to live interesting lives in this movie. when not just a, my 1st question was about the attempts to cancel a russian culture that's were prompted by the crisis in ukraine. washer discipline . and as far as i know you spent your childhood in western ukraine and your parents and young grandfather are buried there. if i'm not mistaken with a strong and now you're banned from entering ukraine. well, i don't know. i never tried to, well, the wrong media reports science that you've been bound for mentoring. what's your personal take on it? i heard you say in your interviews that you aren't affected,
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monitored by counsel tours in the west. but what about, you know, i don't see them as canceled. i see them as postponed credentials, i guess they might end up being postponed for decades to show some more on top of that. i have the goal. so then post my personal functions. i don't want to name particular cities or countries know the previously there are some places where i could go with a concert, 50 movies. i just don't want to make a trip with them, which i don't want to do. you have to frontier because those people who would like me to come and perform there. but i really haven't done much perhaps to influence their local governments. that that was the, were to cancel this whole council culture of the thing, the certification. and if i may get back to my question about ukraine, is it's important to you to be able to go there and visit your parents graves or in that was made to, you know, i'm still waiting until this whole situation that has to come to its natural
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resolution effects and once it's because i will surely go there, but if it continues for too long, i'll have the grades move to moscow. i have all the means to do it. a master. we have to take a very short break now, but we will do back in just a few moments. stay tuned. the russian states never as tight as on one of the most sense community best, most all sense and up the speed. the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on russia to day and split from ortiz,
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full tech, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube. the question, did you say stephen twist, which is the, [000:00:00;00] the welcome back to wells appointments with you, a bunch math and russian conductor and a world renowned violence. you'd have an issue with mr. bossman machine. i was going to ask you a few more questions about ukraine, but not political ones since you spend to your childhood years involve. it's the
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city that store logics down to responsible for the present day and for goodness to attitude towards the brochure and focus. and this is something really hard to understand because the ukrainians socialist republic was getting more financial support from the central government in the us ceasar than any other going south. thank you. great news, harold offices of forward is nikita khrushchev transferred crimea to ukraine across the way. and i think this profound dislike for all things russians comes from because of doesn't just start in 2014, it's been building up for many years, even decades. you know, 1st of all i was born and all i was born in raw stolen don't, you're fine when you moved down to try. and when i turned 5, because of always an incredibly beautiful city and we're doing it and they have great music school in traditions at the conservatory of the latest is the way you've probably heard of the golden ring. and it includes lots of work. there's bloomberg, that's the balls now and also tristan, i think, and girl, it's
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a total of 5 cities and oh, world famous musicians who would visit the conservatories in these states a significant several times a year to give all 3 now called master classes. and most of course, you know, most of them told such classes, centuries ago, some of the famous notes out, but either his father or his son, one of them. so what we both had to offer in terms of music education was for in the states. it was beautiful and had its own traditions. you know, it's something like poland, nor is it like oles trail though. of course it's been influenced by austria, hungary, but i do remember from my childhood years that they had a bad attitude towards t of and that was because in the volts opinion gave, did not post up any serious fights against moscow. the 1st thing in this email school is cave was well integrated into the ussr. well, of, of the screen, you know, one german troops entered the sits agency and they met no resistance for most quite
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the contrary. the local people, welcome to them because they, it's a push to solve them as liberators of government subsidy liberators from the soviet . so far as a is my children. they had this kind of through, let's say, ro, western, i'm thinking switch from the various talking with 0. what's going on when i was attending the music school, there was a class for russian speaking children with, but everyone else smoke ukrainian as do. we also had ukrainian classes at school, but we'll have our own way of thinking and speaking, even in russia, a lot of places have their own sub dialects, traditions. but it doesn't involve any sort of hostile attitude towards their own neighbors. yes, because the ukrainians won't. i think is simply to be russian, but i'm sorry if this may sound improper in today's atmosphere. i think they want to be the 1st with this to be number one number to the move and that's all there is to which to me,
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but we are the same people. how many families out there are like this. russian husband, ukrainian wife duty or vice versa. and they've got the children which this little is no overall. i think it's a very complicated process that's happening today. yeah, yes there's, there's an economic issue which i'm only thing, it's which explains why this bubble finally burst. the bubble has always been there . so you sent that involve russians were it shall we say not always treated in a friendly way, but in salzburg which also mentioned thinks might be moving in the same direction to the corner. i wanted to mention salzburg because it was clear that you had a chance to play mozart's own instrument and yes, you were given that on or someone from a the unique contribution to the history of music. so i drew reading, dr. viola can also be a solo instrumental step that or the 1990, if i'm not mistaken. do you think a concert like that would be possible today, both on your part and on the part of austria? who was more than anything is possible,
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could the because you and you told me that there was a time, i don't remember the years. exactly. you're going to happen when the relations between the soviet union and the united states were incredibly tense music school. you have with them and i believe i was a 1st year students at the conservatory at that times in a got an idea what it was also then would invite legendary. so these musicians fee is now. so use new, you mean i know in middle dealers and low need cogan would go there and some of the younger ones too. i think the person is even though no one else could perform abroad, but that was done exclusively economy the whole. you thinking that's possible a contract with and that is why i say everything is possible. even today, the question is whether it's necessary, what other person himself wants to go past for the concert in salzburg? yes, i was fortunate to be the 1st person in more than 200 years to be given. that's what
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the soonest they need to hold mozart's viola in my hands to play it between me. and the wonderful coincidence brought them with his viola, turned out to be a brother of my own instruments that were both made by the same viola crossman to about 3 years about. if i don't remember, which is older, you think, well, if you're offered the same opportunity today, would you take it for personal reasons or perhaps for the sake of cultural diplomacy diploma on a few week ago or in more lives? no, they were offered. so let's go to moss, what would you do most the silver ones i have done so many that he has been use that the scroll me well, i know i am may be paying the most here. no budget regarding these my namesake of troll. we're all somewhat have like a garden at heart, you know, we'll want to be champions. he has to be number one in sports and music and offs with who knows at the office told here 9 years ago. and he did, we came up with
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a competition for young composers and pleasure to for you. so we received $69.00 application so far, that unit and one of the winners. by the way, it was a crate in there were still though, is it safe for him to go back home? no one from one which i think is in most co at the moment, but he still has a great in passport. you never changed it. i haven't mentioned personally, but everyone spoke very highly of him. i think you on the 2nd prize though, i could be wrong. we uh, you always wear your pendant with saint george and son. george is revered by the russian orthodox tradition as the patronizing of the russian army. although he defeated the dragon, she died in march or his death for refusing to account his faith in favor of the roman gods, at least one according to the christian tradition, i wouldn't be the one to drop barrels here, but in some way it seems to me that russia is now also fighting for its phase,
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for its cultural and historical legacy, as well as for the right to choose its own pulse. but that's what i think. i am wondering why you knew what is your view on. this is how do you see the present a conflict in this kind of spiritual context with the parents need to just please don't love him in school. so i'm gonna go, i'd say that they couldn't simply come up with a wave of a magic wand. if blood in my purse, in where the people to president of europe told of europe, but please don't scare of yours ended of america. and the, and a world was, it only goes as p actually let me see personifies the good thing is today's conflict. as most of else evil, the fighting evil. it's about the good. yep. yep. and the good as we see is of course so, so it's good. and i certainly understand a while america wants to rule view russell, this opportunity is the state and would make it paid twice the price and less blue
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or even more north of so if the field but all this about the market does this load you and you there also people everywhere is good. they've got governors in every district and lots of specificities. so the president is doing an excellent job managing them old. i mean, it wouldn't make much of a difference if he go to manage from germany. they totally spain and so on. and use this and they were very complimentary about him at the very beginning because no one has a president like this. no one. i think president clinton has no ambitions to forward you over a while. i will ask him to be, well, i think it's probably, i think he'll probably say no even to you, but he'll have a good laugh. he's got a terrific sense of humor, but it's a serious question. and you as a person distinguished with multiple international awards including a grammy, are very well acquainted with western culture and it's mentality. so why do you think it's so hard for western europe and for the west in general to accept the
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russia as it is almost if not in terms of for the shape and cooperation that i'm placed in terms of acknowledging that we're equally valuable that we have the right to be the way we are comfortable doing it, but why do i think they think that you should probably ask them? yes it does. it because you know, going to see what was he asked me. we have to come up with solar. i can give is my opinion of them. so that was pro simple. i like glass and the french wine or even cold cruising doesn't mean that those are excellent to tell you. and i like italian wine and food. you know, the wine is amazing and i'm willing to, to learn it to their food is very good and more natural than in front of you. i like to tell in session, in tokyo, when you are writing an elevator, you just, when you send tchaikovsky on the way down, despite the fact much on the japan, is that now not very friendly to russia, and what does it for?
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they simply did not reset the settings. yep. hold on to know who wrote this music. gainesville icons say, but they like, it's a lot just seem to kind of like shopping to, to any of them. they loved piano music. so what did they think about us? they probably think of the kremlin stones that would cripple drink vodka here, attempts to be what else shouldn't they also think the trasha represents the opposite of freedom that kind of fits russia is overall, the regressive backward nation with no freedoms. and so i wanted to ask you as a person representing the culture at its highest, what of us more than 10 high culture exist without freedom? and what is freedom in the context of russian culture fullness full freedom that combines with the lack of taste produces and r k. i think that and that's vulgar. and if a person has a good taste, and that's something everyone must hone and improve throughout their lives, and you'll see everywhere at the resume includes duty, but it's getting
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a lot of pain. and having taste means you have certain reasonable limits in your freedom. yeah. and that's, and that's what makes freedom different from on a cake. i believe russia has more freedom of speech. let's do. of course you can cut this out. so yeah, but as far as i understand, we have more freedom now than germany. we need this. i know this is because of all the festivals that will be unless they still invite performers from other countries to see if they're willing to come meet, that may have problems upon their return home. so someone when all right, it is so slow and perhaps more last questions the weather as we see now this attempt to cancel a cold tra is no longer applied to russian culture only. but for instance, up to your door, crenza is, who is greeks, is guessing she's participation in concerts cancelled. mainly for the initiative of your brain and musicians on the various pretext. kimberly, and then what do you think this process can eventually result in what kind of resolution can we expect?
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a 3 up and um i think was the best answer to your question moist woochie was that will be if i tell you a story of what happened to me in salzburg, so it seemed that was sometime before the great in conflict. but after the thing was and said, pray may have had a concert scheduled with the local, which most i'll tell them, hold his truck, the performance went very well. so there was a left only the world to play one of the tribute symphonies as the 2nd act, the young, but soon public was very welcoming, were a huge success. so period sending and then one person went up to the stage and stood in front of it. with a slogan, i don't know what it said, but he was shouting something very loudly and the audience tried to boot him into silence. like, why there's, let's face, know you was a come to the musicians. well, the orchestra that the, that goes in the model because try it was the local orchestra need. both of you had been working so hard for a week to perform. i'm under my guidance use in way chief to success. it was great
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in the old in sort of get to closing. and so i came out on stage again to the man kept standing there with his slogan, the shouting gear, but the shooting you. i think it was about cry mia? and he was probably asking me why i support the saying, but i never even noticed something i remember going to the beaches of crimea as a kid with my mom. the of them was, you brought to that and i'm what i've never had invitations to perform a concert and cried me a. this is and i stalled a guessing invitations to phone the only up to cry me a drawer and rush into the room. and that's when i realized i don't all the time before. i mean, it wasn't the russian, it wasn't mine as well with you happened to my life and so my on so 2 years back then i sold some cars. what should i do? came on to that stage for the aides time. seemed for new so but then i picks up my music sheets. i'm sure. but symphony though and put them over my head up with you to the audience, stood up there was told them on the clothes and the police took that man away. who
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was the only thing that can save us is what lifts your soul and makes it bigger. and that's classical music, 1st and foremost issue and speaking again who to present person? there's a big fan of classical music. it listens to it on the plane is so new takes piano lessons and really wants to play better. and that's where i think i know they did it and i've heard and play myself. can you get a sense? i'm sure i have these phones make him any more popular in the west, but in any case versus cares about popularity in the west. this world mattresses, our country's unity i thank you very much for speaking to us. thank you. thank you for watching hope this here again on once
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