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as i've been testing the restaurant, this is often dismissed as clumsy and ridiculous, but i'm sure you will agree that the culture, especially music, has the power to directly influence the human soul. so when you import and age subconscious part as well as conscious one is therefore an effective tool of leverage. really. so my question is, is this bound on russian culture really? so irrational is a pretty open that are see score 1st autumn. yep. we're viewed in terms of feel certain what was the compass? that's good musicians still play phone. brushing is like most of the russian plays exactly the status. if that was still been staged them there was so curious whether it was high or low. it cannot be any cancellation and those who have cancelled something. i don't want to insult anybody, but what they've done is stupid. there's simply more on some stuff because im cancelling russian music means cancel in a great pods when we look human. so in general,
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the sheer noble in it doesn't matter what nationality you all whole where you live at this deal, and it's easy to see why they did it for political politicians. you know, some politicians are for smaller people with and lots of sole, and it tastes from music. and while others are numerous, i have no such taste of send you. but i focused on hating russia, me and that is good and that the repaired them to go all the way. yes, i think it's stupid. not one cause of so do you think um, cuz it's plain stupidity really or do you believe this some motive, the like limited access to russian performers because they maybe stobel lane, some rushing musical, but access to russian performers is severely limited in the was tell some of the financial enough, i present it to or to 1000000 was uncomfortable, and those are lots of russian musicians. i don't use that. i have been living abroad for long to understand is do you see if we are still the educated and told
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here in russia you got the list, the 0 to and i think that listeners who can still understand the true spirit of russian music schools. yes. the go until recently the segment of russian culture and most popular in the west was high culture like music, belay, or fine arts. and such things usually require a certain depth where they usually much easier to implement towards not just give intelligence when you pull, but people with a great depth of perception. do you think that this kind of help with the curriculum cross disability to distinguish between define new answers of meaning is something that's still a relevant in the world today? because we've, i think, as long as we'll leave the settled feelings will remain relevant. and yet the, because when we are doing the quote unquote transition to a i the, the most then we can meet again e and discuss this most book a as long. however,
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as our intelligence is human motives official, zullie, as long as we are living people to can use this visit as will remain relevant emotions. because see as low as the complex structures of our souls varies, our face on our minds to be as we may of this connection was a come to be talking about the authors and musicians that i found. that is the connection between the rational approach feeling and this is a logical one, was the welcome on where your brain controls your hands movements. for instance, the last 2 of were actors and seniors, intonations. and that's still something that's far away from what's a i can do is be disclosed at the or do you mentioned a i which is a perfect segue to my next question can was, my person can be taught the right way. i just think it's not what the ours are across to propaganda is about teaching people to think in
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a certain way. do you think it's possible to teach people the right way to feel the weight, say each everyone the right way to fields, to pick them loop, a sudden woods, and of course, with the major leap towards artificial intelligence and progressively put us on the contrary to each person phase 2 on the sum total of his or her unique characteristics where they were born, how they were raised, what these experienced in their childhood got so little is what joy's or sad moments they experience of change and it will be made of this that helps with this, the voice of us good understanding of what's good and what's bad. so the 1st of the quote what the mom and dad, i'm told them with the mom of me. but my mom, for example, i'm trying to figure out the most i was interested in this movie, but the most difficult thing anybody ever dealt with since i probably didn't show a particular interest in anything. she moved you,
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but the she kept trying different things with me. you. so like painting sports. there's a, by the way, are used to defense things get into that was a promising young tensor and all the so to my mist, cuz then someone told my mom that sensing was bad for my races because they lose the flexibility. they need to play the violin to manipulate the bo wheeler. so my mom made me stop, go into fence and breakfast more, just be cheap. well, i just remembered that my childhood music teacher still teaches in odessa to be at and that was her last name is natal. i'm a concerned with the can you? but she doesn't go to the conservatory anymore. she has students come to her place . that would, she's quite old, as you can imagine most, it gave me the link below that music school is named us of the crate field, our spouse key between the 1st parts of the russian violence coal deal. which in turn begin to as influenced many legendary violinists in the west,
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in the united states and on other countries. and so what do you think people still remember that today with the cross pollination between cultures and stuff because it's hard to deny that russian culture has influenced world culture. and yet we see what's going on here also for us, but it was, that's a great question. because if you cancel the russian culture of the next, that all you must and cancel it. so you have influence as well. and that is that still put and that would mean suspending was you means holding cultural development daughter could do this and that's a really good question to switch. the other one is the, i believe that even the power of the russian music's coal ski. at the more than it's always mentality, the mentality to tears of trinity to him, which has the advantage of the russian school was musical thinking. it was a kind of name was the that's what it is that they've been. that's what they just saw, a tradition that has been handed down by some great musicians by shore. and even
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nikki, i think a great artist is not just someone who has a great to keep on the stupid, but is always the unique personality. now an innovator and a maverick, a few world indeterminacy of those. and i have actually heard the saying that a great artist is an instrument which without the inspiration plays on. yeah. and your career football season grew from that one which was but you were born into a family that was in physical, a tall. i'm on a you just mentioned to your mother trying to figure out what your talent and your calling for us. so what would be your advice to our viewers? so maybe not musicians on how to still drink from that spring ovens duration to feel fully alive at 70. and nope, we'd be able to associate with 1st of which, you know, the, the quick me and there are many documents by which i mean records. so you would need the cheapest, they were talking about the micro chips new yesterday little cities. no video
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records for. sure. absolutely. i don't think that someone who has no connection to me is like a good good people. just go ahead and buy a records. couple of good ways of a performance by a legendary musician that so that's not the way quickly. so what's my advice would be wise mom, give them for that or the public? yeah, that's because i wish i told you about this on our ski school in odessa, which was still there. let's tell him. so that was he said, good for those. i don't need tell them to children. i need to tell them to the months went through and of course, and again, my parents were not musicians and they have not go. but my mom had a great to hear from us. like she took some piano lessons when she was young. and i asked her why she had given them up with and she said she didn't have enough patients for a long practice sessions pop of upstairs who was the nest for my dad like throwing
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it to the work. so was that a tronics? you know, when he will be pretty close and that he had a great voice. me as well as soon as it turned out, i had some musical ability. when you have this good to do, please, my grand admittedly sent over a piano because a kids learning music that the domain, its called living at home without a piano pop up and my dad so tired this work, of course, and this must still tell me this is up to coming home from work because he learns how to play something yet. let's go. and i would accompany him on the piano playing by ear to one. so you need tell them to the parents once the children to live interesting lives in this movie. when i change this to my 1st question was about the attempts to cancel a russian culture, and that's where prompted by the crisis in ukraine, russian discipline. and as far as i know you spent your childhood in western ukraine and your parents and young grandfather are buried there. if i'm not mistaken with a strong and now you're banned from entering ukraine. well, i don't know. i never tried to. well, there are immediate reports saying,
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but you've been bound for mentoring. what's your personal take on it? one person i heard you say in your interviews that you aren't affected, monitored by counsel tours in the west. but what about if i don't see them as canceled? i see them as postponed for dental, i guess they might end up being postponed for decades. choose something more on top of that has the goal. so in both my personal sanctions, i don't want to name particular cities or countries know the previously, there are some places where i could go with a concert, 50 movies. i just don't want to make a trip with them, which i don't want to do. you have to frontier because those people who would like me to come and perform there. but they really haven't done much perhaps to influence their local governments. that that was the way to cancel this whole cancel culture of the thing. so producing and if i may get back to my question about ukraine, is it important to you to be able to go there and visit your parents grades or in
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that way to, you know, i'm still waiting for this whole situation that have to come to it's natural resolution effects and once it does, i will surely go there, but if it continues for too long, i'll have the grades move to moscow. i have all the means to do it. master, we have to take a very short break now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned. the water is a part of the the employee would post that isn't the, the place you of us and that in the word or is it something deeper, more complex might be present. good. let's stop without collision. let's go
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welcome back to wells appointments with you, the bush math russian conductor and a world renowned violence unit. i promised you mr. bossman machine, i was wanting to ask you a few more questions about your brain, but not political ones since you spend to your childhood years involve. it's the safety that store logics down to responsible for the present day and for goodness to attitude towards russia. because this is something really hard to understand because the ukranian socialist republic was getting more financial support from the central government in the us ceasar than any other going south. thank you. craniums how the offices are forward. nikita khrushchev transferred crimea to ukraine, crossed the sway. i think this profound dislike for all things russians comes from . because if they're going to just start in 2014, it's been building up for many years, even decades. you know, 1st of all, i was born involved. i was born in north stolen, don't you have 5 when you moved into try?
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and when i turned 5, going to see what was always an incredibly beautiful city to and they have great music school in traditions at the conservatory of the main to us as the one you've probably heard. so the golden ring. so it includes lots of work that is blumberg that's involved now. and also tristan, i think, and girl, it's a total of 5 cities who and all world famous musicians would visit the conservatories in the cities and use could go to several times a year to give all 3 now called master classes. and must, of course, you know, most of them told such classes, centuries ago, some of the famous multiple, but either his father or his son, one of them. so what we both had to offer in terms of music education was superb. anastasia, it was beautiful and its own solutions. you know, it's something like poland millions or is it like oles tray? although of course, it's been influenced by austria, hungary, but i do remember from my childhood years that they had a bad attitude towards
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t of and that was because involves opinion, realty of degree, did not post up any serious fights against moscow. the stadium used email, screw, waste, cable is well integrated into the ussr, while level of the screen, you know, when german troops entered the sits agency, they met no resistance, but most, quite the contrary. the local people, welcome to them because they have to push to solve them as liberators. go what types of labor items from the soviet so far as a is my chair and they had this kind of 3, let's say roll west or i'm thinking. so from the better starting with 0 to when i was attending the music school, there was a class for russian speaking children with but everyone else smoke ukrainian as we can. we also had ukrainian classes at school, but we all have our own way of thinking and speaking, even in russia, a lot of places have their own sub dialects, traditions thing, but it doesn't involve any sort of hostile attitude towards their own neighbors.
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yes, because the ukrainians williams, i think, is simply to be russian. but i'm sorry if this may sound improper in today's atmosphere. i think they want to be the 1st. what is to be number one, number 2 moves, and that's all there is to, which means we have the same people. how many families out there are like this. russian husband, ukrainian wife, beautiful, vice versa. and they've got the children were just a little overall. i think it's a very complicated process that's happening today. yeah, yes there's, there's an economic issue which you moment can you lose explains why this bubble finally burst. the bubble has always been there. so you sent that involve russians were it shall we say not always treated in a friendly way, but ins, salzburg, which also mentioned that things might be moving in the same direction to the corner. i wanted to mention salzburg because it was there that you had a chance to play mozart's own instrument and yes,
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you were given thought on or someone from a unique contribution to the history of music stuff. i'm reading dr. violet can also be a solo instrument that or the 1990, if i'm not mistaken. do you think a concert like that would be possible today that the both on your part and on the part of austria? so it was more than anything is possible. the cause and you told me that there was a time, i don't remember the years. exactly. you're going to yes. and when the relations between the soviet union and the united states were incredibly tense, meaning because you have with him and i believe i was a 1st year student at the conservatory at that time, june got an idea of what it was also then would invite the legendary soviet musicians fee, as last, so use new, you mean i know, and middle dealers and loan and kogan would go there. and some of the younger ones, too, i think the boys and even though no one else could perform abroad, but that was done exclusively at conduct the whole you thinking was possible
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contractors, who would, and that is why i say everything is noticeable. even today, the question is whether it's necessary, whether the person himself wants to go past for the concert in salzburg. yes, it was fortunate to be the 1st person in more than 200 years to be given. that's what the soonest they told most of the old in my hands to play it between this and the wonderful coincidence. but at the move he's the older turned out to be a brother of my own instruments. they were both made by the same people across and about 3 years about i don't remember which is older isn't one. if you were offered the same opportunity today. would you take it for personal reasons or perhaps for the sake of cultural diplomacy and diploma may fewer a gallery, more alive know and they were offered. so let's go to moss, what would you do? most siblings, i've done so many is f, as in his name has been you said to the new school, well,
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i know i am may be paying the modest here no budget regarding his my namesake of troll square, all similar to the garden at hearts. you know, will want to be champions. he has to be number one in sports and music and all with who knows at the office told here 9 years ago and they did get them. so came up with a competition for young composers and pleasure to for you. so we've received $69.00 application so far. they're doing it and one of the winners, by the way, it was a crate in there were still no. is it safe for him to go back home? no one someone was something is in most come at the moment, but it's still has a cranium. passport. you never changed it. i haven't mentioned personally, but everyone spoke very highly of him. i think you on the 2nd prize though it could be wrong. we uh, you always wear your pendant with saint george and son. george is revered by the russian orthodox tradition as the patron saint of the russian army. although he defeated the dragon,
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she died in march or his death for refusing to recount his phrase, in favor of the roman gods, at least one according to the christian tradition. i wouldn't be the one to drop barrels here, but in some way it seems to me that russia is now also fighting for its phase for its cultural and historical legacy. petty as well as for the right to choose its own pulse. but that's what i think, i am wondering why you mean your, what is your view on this is how do you see the present a conflict in this kind of spiritual context with the parents made just please don't laugh humans cuz so i'm gonna go, i'd say that they couldn't simply come up with a wave of a magic wand if blood in my purse, in where the little president of europe told of europe. but please don't care of yours. ended of america and the a world's most. it only goes as he actually needs. he personifies the good. the
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thing is, today's conflict is also valid. evil. the fights and evil. it's about the good. yep . yep. and the good as we see is of course the ssl certificate. and i certainly understand that a while america wants to roll view russell, this opportunity is us there and would make it paid twice the price and less blue or even more north of so if the film, but all this about the market is to do and if there are also people everywhere is good. they've got the governors in every district and lots of specificities. so the president is doing an excellent job managing them old. i mean, it wouldn't make much of a difference if you go to manage fronts. germany, they totally spain and so on. and you just and they were very complimentary about him at the very beginning because no one has a president like this. no one. i think president clinton has no ambitions to forward you over a while. i will ask him to be, well, i think it's probably, i think he'll probably say no even to you, but he'll have a good laugh. he's got
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a terrific sense of humor, but it's a serious question. and you as a person distinguished with multiple international awards, including a grammy, a very well acquainted with western culture and it's mentality. so why do you think it's so hard for western europe and for the west in general to accept the russia as a to spanish? if not in terms of for the shape and cooperation that i'm placed in terms of acknowledging that were equally valuable. but we have the right to be the way we are because the other one. but why do i think they think that helped you? i should probably ask them yes it does it because you know, going to see what you ask me. we have to come up with solar. i can give is my opinion of them. so that was pro sample. i like it asked me for french wine even haute cuisine doesn't mean that those are excellent to tell you. and i like to tell in wine and food. you know, the wine is amazing and they're willing to, to learn it to their food is very good. and more natural than in front of you,
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i like to tell in session in tokyo, when you're writing an elevator digits, when you send tchaikovsky on the way down, despite the fact that japan is, it's now not very friendly to russia. and then for, they simply did not reset the settings you all don't know who wrote this music, gainesville icons say, but they like, it's a lot just into this kind of like shopping to do any of them. they loved piano music. so what did they think about us? they probably think of the kremlin stones that would cripple drink vodka here, attempts to be what else shouldn't they also think the trasha represents the opposite of freedom? that's russia is overall, the regressive, backward nation with no freedoms. and so i wanted to ask you as a person representing the culture at its highest, what it was more than can hi culture exist without freedom. and what is freedom in the context of russian culture fullness full freedom that combines with
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a lack of taste that produces an r k. i think the and that's vulgar. and if a person has a taste, and that's something everyone must hone and improve throughout their lives, and you'll see everywhere at the resume, difficulties duty, but it's getting water in and having tastes means you have certain reasonable limits in your freedom. yeah, and that's and that's what makes freedom different from on a key. i believe russia has more freedom of speech. and of course you can cut this out. so yeah, but as far as i understand, we have more freedom now than germany. yes. i know this because of all the festivals that was the most, they still invited performers from other countries of the machine. if they're willing to come meet, they may have problems upon their return home. so someone, when all right, it is so slow and perhaps more last question the as we see now, this attempt to cancel culture, it is no longer applied to russian culture only. but for instance,
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to your door caresses, who is greeks, is guessing she's participation in concerts cancelled. mainly for the initiative of your brain and musicians on the various pretext. kimberly, and then what do you think this process can eventually result in? what kind of resolution can we expect? a 3 up in room, my think was the best answer to your question, moist bluetooth. that'll be if i tell you a story, what happened to me in salzburg? so that's and that was sometime before the great in conflict, but after the last thing was and said, great, may i ask whom i had a concert scheduled with the local, which most i'll tell them, hold his truck, the performance went very well and there was a left only the world to play one of them. sure. but symphonies as a 2nd act, the young, but soon public was very welcoming. we were a huge success scope. we did send that and then one person went up to the stage and stood in front of it. with us logan, i don't know what it said, but he was shouting something very loudly and the audience tried to boot him into
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silence. like, why there's, let's face. it was a come to the musicians. well, the orchestra that the, that goes in the model because try it was the local orchestra. when you both of you had been working so hard for a week to perform. i'm under my guidance use, and way chief to success. it was great that the, the old in sort of get to closing, and so i came out on stage again. the man kept standing there with his slogan, shouting via, but i see, i think it was about cry mia? and he was probably asking me why i support the saying, but i never even noticed something i remember going to the beach has of tried me and has a kid with my mom. the of them was a lot to that. and what i never had invitations to perform a concert and cried me a, this is, and i started guessing invitations to perform that i only have to pry me a joint russian degree. and that's when i realized i don't all that time for me. it wasn't russian, it wasn't mine as well with the. yeah, but do more, less and so my on so 2 years back then i sold some cars. what should i do?
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i came on to the stage for the 8th time. seemed 40 years old, but then i picks up my music sheets of shrivelled symphony though and put them over my head up with you to the audience stood up. that was the total close and the police took that man away. who was the only thing that can save us is what lifts your soul and makes it bigger. and that's classical music 1st and foremost the machine and speaking again who to present thoughts? and there's a big fan of classical music. it listens to it on the plane is so i'm going to takes piano lessons and really wants to play better and better. i think i know that they think i've heard and play myself. can you get a sense? i'm sure this phones make him any more popular in the west, but in any case, the says here is about popularity in the west. maybe the 12 mattresses are countries. unity i thank you very much for speaking to us. thank you.
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