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the welcome to worlds apart from cancel culture to the canceling of culture. the western boy clause on all things russian has left here paralysis, so far as to stick exchanges. further amplifying disc isn't created by a diplomatic and the most that you and economic sanctions of give them that music or dance have always been able to permit language and ideological barriers. on the indeed powerful influence tools to be controlled or if needs be visualized. with the discount that i'm now enjoying, by your impression, i have a russian conductor and a world renowned by list your dep. notice through boss smith. thank you for finding the time. thank you for having me. of over the past couple of years, what has been said about council culture, especially the down to cancel a high russian culture in the west side in the restaurant. this is often dismissed
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as clumsy and ridiculous. but i'm sure you will agree that by culture, especially music has the power to directly influence the human. so for example, it's gonna have subconscious part as well as conscious one and is therefore an effective tool of leverage. so my question is, is this bound on russian culture really? so irrational is a pretty open that are see score 1st on. yep. and we'll see it in terms of feel certain what was the compass? that was good musicians still play phone. brushing is like most of the russian plays exactly status if that was still been staged at them. that was so close whether it was high or the can not be any cancellation that took the nose, would have to cancel something. i don't want to insult anybody, but what they've done is stupid. there's simply more on some stuff because im cancelling russian music means cancel in a great positive acumen. so in general, the new movie, no, it doesn't matter what nationality, your whole,
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where you live at this deal and it's easy to see why they did it. so politically, their politicians, some politicians are for smaller people with a lots of so let it taste for music. and while others are numerous, i have no such taste of sydney, but i focused on hating russia me and that is because there's end up in the repaired them to go all the way. yes, i think it's stupid. no one because of. so do you think um, cuz it's plain stupidity really or do you believe this some motive the company may like limiting access to russian performers because they may be stobel lane, some rushing musical, but access to russian performers is severely limited in the was testable for pointing up on those, i present it to or treat me the most uncomfortable. and those are lots of russian musicians. i don't use that. i have been living abroad for long times and is, do you see if we are still the educated and told here in russia you got the list,
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the region that i think that listeners who can still understand the true spirit of russian music they move. yes, the glass until recently the segment of russian culture and most popular in the west was high culture like music, belay, or fine arts. and such things usually require a certain depth where they usually much easier to implement towards not just give intelligence when you pulled by people with a great depth of perception. do you think the best kind of help with the chromecast disability to distinguish between defined new answers of meaning is something that's still a relevant in the world today? because we've, i think, as long as we'll leave, the subtle feelings will remain relevant and get the because when we know, quote unquote transition to a i, the, it was then we can meet again and discuss this most, but go as long. however,
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as our intelligence is human, as a result, i was official, zullie, as long as we are living people to can use this visit as will remain relevant emotions. because see as low as the complex structures of our souls, we had a face on our minds to be as we may of this connection was a come to be talking about the authors and musicians that i found. that is the connection between the rational approach feeling and this is a logical one was the welcome one way, your brain controls your hand movements. for instance, the last 2 of were actors and seniors information on it, but that's still something that's far away from. what's a i can do is be disclosed at the or do you mentioned a i, which is a perfect segue to my next question can was, my person can be taught the right way, but i just think it's not what the ours are across to propaganda is about teaching people to think in
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a certain way. do you think it's possible to teach people the right way to feel this thing? when the 11th, we teach everyone the right way to fields to pick them loops, a sudden woods. and of course, with the major leap towards artificial intelligence, investment for us on the contrary to each person. phase 2 on the sum total of his or her unique characteristics where they were born, how they were raised, what these cookies experienced in their childhood. got so little is what joys or sad moments they experience of change and it will be made of this, that house what the civil it was good understanding of what's good and what's bad. still the 1st of the quote what the mom and dad, i'm told them with the mom of me. but my mom for example, i'm trying to figure out the most. i was interested in this movie but, but the most difficult thing anybody ever dealt with since i probably didn't show a particular interest in anything she movie but so she kept trying different things
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with me. use the same thing. sports. there's a, by the way, are used to defense things get into that. how was a promising young transfer? no. the so to me i missed because then someone told my mom that sensing was bad for my residence because they lose the flexibility. they need to play the violin to manipulate the ball with your so my mom made me stop, go into the fence and process more dispute sheet. well, i just remembered that my childhood music teacher still teaches in odessa to be at . and that was her last name is natal of who considered with the can you? but she doesn't go to the conservatory anymore. she has students come to her place . the good. she's quite old, as you can imagine, most of the music and all that music school is named up. so the crates, fields are spelled out. ski boots my 1st parts of the russian violence coal deal, which in turn begin the as influenced many legendary violinists in the west, in the united states and on other countries. and simply do you think when people
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still remember that today with them that cross pollination between cultures, but because it's hard to deny that russian culture has influenced world culture. and yet we see what's going on here for those of us. but it was that's a great question because if you cancel the russian culture, i have to make sure that all you must and cancel it influence as well. and that is there still put and that would mean suspending was you means holding cultural development would go to computers and that's a really good question to switch of the most. uh, i believe that even the power of the russian music's coal ski at the more than it's always mentality, the mentality of tears of trinity to him which has the advantage of the restaurants . cool as musical thinking. it was a kind of name with me. that's what it is that they've been. that's what they just saw, a tradition that has been handed down by some great musicians by shore. and even nikki, i think a great artist is not just someone who has
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a grades to keep only stupid, but is always good, unique personality, not an innovator, and a maverick, a few world indeterminacy of those. and i have actually heard the saying that a great artist is an instrument which is without the inspiration plays on. yeah. and your career football season roof of that, one of the tools, but you were born into a family that was in physical, a tall. i'm a, a, you just mentioned to your mother trying to figure out what your talent and your calling word pass. so what would be your advice to our viewers? so maybe not musicians on how to still drink from that spring of inspiration to feel fully alive at 70. and nope, it beautiful. so she has to, 1st of which, you know, the book with me and there are many those documents by which i mean records. so we need the cheaper they were talking about the micro chips,
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new just state little cities. no video records to live. absolutely. i don't think that's someone who has no connection to music. a good good people. just go ahead and buy a re, quote. couple of good ways of a performance by a legendary musician, is it them that so that's not the way quickly. so what's my advice would be a wise mom to have them for that or the public? yeah, that's because i wish i told you about this on our ski school in odessa, which was still there. so that was like you said, good for those. i don't need tell them to children. i need to tell them to the months went through and of course, i mean, my parents were not musicians and they have not go. but my mom had a great to hear from you as like, she took some piano lessons when she was young. and i asked her why she had given them up with and she said she didn't have enough patients for a long practice sessions, a couple of chairs who, who didn't ask for my dad like throwing it to the work. so was that a tronics, you know, when he will be pretty close and that he had
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a great voice menu. so as soon as it turned out, i had some musical ability. when would you have this good to do, please? my grand admittedly sent over a piano because a kids learning music with the domain, its called living at home without a piano, a pop up and my dad, so tired this work, of course. but still tell me this is up to coming home from work that he learns how to play something yet. let's go. and i would accompany him on the piano playing by ear to one. so you need tell them to the parents who wants the children to live interesting lives in this movie. when i change this to my 1st question was about the attempts to cancel a russian culture. and that's where prompted by the crisis in ukraine, russian discipline, and as far as i know, you spent your childhood in western ukraine and your parents and young grandfather are buried there. if i'm not mistaken with a strong and now you're banned from entering ukraine. well, i don't know, i never tried to, well, there are immediate reports saying, but you've been bound for mentoring. what's your personal take on it?
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one person i heard you say in your interviews that you aren't affected, monitored by cancelled tours in the west. but what about, i don't see them as canceled. i see them as postponed for dental, i guess they might end up being postponed for decades issue. so more on top of that, i have the goals of impose my personal sanctions. i don't want to name particular cities or countries know the previously there are some places where i could go with a concert, 50 movie. i just don't want to make a trip with them, which i don't want to do. you have to frontier because those people who would like me to come and perform their but i really haven't done much perhaps to influence their local governments. that that was the, were to cancel this whole cancel culture of the thing. so producing and if i may get back to my question about ukraine, is it important to you to be able to go there and visit your parents grades or in that way to, you know,
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i'm still waiting for this whole situation that have to come to it's natural resolution effects, and once it does, i will surely go there for the bill and if it continues for too long, i'll have the grades move to moscow. i have all the means to do it. master. we have to take a very short break now, but we will be back in just a few moments. stay tuned. the exception and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my show stay main street because i'm probably going to
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make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way and say the welcome back to wells appointments with you. the bush map of russian conductor and a world renowned violence unit. i promised you mr. bossman machine. i was wanting to ask you a few more questions about your brain, but not political ones since you spend to your childhood years involve. it's the safety that store logics down to responsible for the present day and for goodness to attitude towards the brochure. because this is something really hard to understand because the ukrainian socialist republic was getting more financial support from the central government in the us ceasar than any other going south.
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thank you. craniums held officers or forward nikita khrushchev transferred crimea to ukraine across the way. and i think this profound dislike for all things russians comes from because of doesn't just start in 2014, it's been building up for many years, even decades. you know, 1st of all, i was born in law. i was born in north stolen, don't you have 5 when you moved in thought strange. and when i turned 5, going to see with was always an incredibly beautiful city and with 20 and they have great music school in traditions at the conservatory for the 9th is the one you've probably heard of the golden ring. so it includes lots of work. there's bloomberg that's involved now and also tristan, i think, and girl, it's a total of 5 cities who and all world famous musicians would visit the conservatories in these states a significant several times a year to give will be now called master classes and list of lists you know, most of them told such classes, centuries ago, some of the famous multiple,
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but either his father or his son, one of them who so what we both had to offer in terms of music education was for in the states. it was b as a full of and its own solutions. you know, it's something like poland new york, or is it like old stray? although of course it's been influenced by austria hungry. but i do remember from my childhood years that they had a bad attitude towards t of and that was because it involves opinion realty of degree. it did not close up any serious fights against moscow. the 1st thing in the email school vice gave was well integrated into the ussr, while level of the screen, you know, when german troops entered the sits agency, they met no resistance. almost quite the contrary. the local people, welcome to them because they, it's a push to solve them as liberators. government subsidy liberators from the soviet. so far as a is my children. they had this kind of through, let's say, ro, western thinking. so from the very starting with 0 to when i was attending the
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music school, there was a class for russian speaking children believe that everyone else smoke ukrainian as we could. we also had ukrainian classes at school, but we'll have our own way of thinking and speaking, even in russia, kind of a lot of places have their own sub dialects traditions, then you put it doesn't involve any sort of hostile attitude towards their own neighbors. you have to keep the equations. williams, i think, is simply to be russian. but i'm sorry if this may sound improper in today's atmosphere. i think they want to be the 1st. what is to be number one, number 2 moves, and that's all there is to, which means we are the same people. how many families out there are like this is a russian husband, ukrainian wife for vice versa. and they've got the children were just a little zillow overall. i think it's a very complicated process that's happening today. yeah, yes there's, there's an economic issue, which i'm only gonna, it's,
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lois explains why this bubble finally burst. the bubble has always been there. so you sent that involve russians were it, shall we say not always treated in a friendly way, but it's salzburg as well. would you also mentioned that things might be moving in the same direction, or i wanted to mention salzburg because it was there that you had a chance to play mozart's own instrument. and yes, you were given that owner as someone from a unique contribution to the history of music stuff. i grew reading, dr. violet, can also be a sallow instrument that or the 1990 if i'm not mistaken. do you think a concert like that would be possible today that the both on your part and on the part of austria, who was more than anything is possible, the could be any problem you could. there was a time. i don't remember the years. exactly. you're going to happen when the relations between the soviet union and the united states were incredibly tense. i mean, cuz you have with him and i believe i was
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a 1st year students at the conservatory at that time, june got an idea of what it was also then would invite the legendary soviet musicians fee as well. so use new, you mean i know in middle dealers and loan and cogan would go there and some of the younger ones too. i think the bush and even though no one else could perform abroad, but that was done exclusively conduct the whole you thinking this possible contract, just the woods and that is why i say everything is most suitable. they've been today. the question is whether it's necessary, what are the person himself wants to go past for the concert in salzburg? yes, it was fortunate to be the 1st person in more than 200 years to be given that top a soon as a to hold mozart's viola in my hands of the to play it between this and the wonderful coincidence. but at the move, he's the all the turned out to be a brother of my own instruments that were both made by the same people across. and it's about 3 years about i don't remember which is older isn't one. if you were
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offered the same opportunity today. would you take it for personal reasons or perhaps for the sake of cultural diplomacy, diploma may fewer a gallery, more alive, know and they were offered to go to moss, what would you do? most siblings, i've done so many is f, as in his name has been use that the new scrum now i know i am may be pain immodest . here no budget garden is my namesake of troll square. all similar to like a garden at heart. you know, they'll want to be champions. he has to be number one in sports and music and all with who knows at the office. so here is 9 years ago when we did, we came up with a competition for young composers in place for you. so we've received $69.00 application so far. i doing this and one of the winners. by the way, it was a crate in there were still no. is it safe for him to go back home? no one someone was to think isn't most come at the moment, but he still has
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a great name passport. yes, you never changed it. i haven't mentioned personally, but everyone spoke very highly of him. i think you on the 2nd prize though, i could be wrong. we uh, you always wear your pendant with saint george and son. george is revered by the russian orthodox tradition as the plates from saying of the russian army. although he defeated the dragon, she died in march or his death for refusing to recount his phrase, in favor of the roman gods. at least according to the christian tradition. i wouldn't be the one to drop barrels here, but in some way it seems to me that russia is now also fighting for its phase for its cultural and historical legacy. as well as for the right to choose its own cloth. but that's what i think. i am wondering why you mean your, what is your view on this is how do you see the present
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a conflict in this kind of spiritual context. but the thing is made to just please don't love him in school. so i'm gonna go, i'd say that they couldn't simply come up with a wave, a magic wand, if blood in my purse, in where the little president of europe told of europe, but please don't care of yours. ended of america. and then a world goes, it only goes as he actually cheaper sony flies. the good thing is, today's conflict is also about evil, the fights and evil. it's about the good for any of the up and a good as we see is of course the ssl certificate. and i certainly understand a while america wants to rule view russell. this opportunity is the state and would make it paid twice the price and the school or even more north of so if the field, but all this about the market is to do and if there are also people everywhere is good, they've got the governors in every district and lots of specificities. so the president is doing an excellent job managing them old. i mean, it wouldn't make much of
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a difference if you go to manage fronts. germany, they totally spain and so on. and users, and they were very complimentary about him at the very beginning because no one has a president like this. no one can. i think president clinton has no ambitions to for we do over a period while i will ask him to be, well, i think it's probably, i think he'll probably say no even to you, but he'll have a good laugh. he's got a terrific sense of humor, but it's a serious question. and you as a person distinguished with multiple international awards, including a grammy, a very well acquainted with western culture and it's mentality. so why do you think it's so hard for western europe and for the west in general to accept russia as it is almost if not in terms of for the shep and cooperation that i'm placed in terms of acknowledging that were equally valuable. but we have the right to be the way we are because the other one. but why do i think they think that helps? yeah,
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i should probably ask them yes it does it because you know me to use it was you ask me we have to come up with solar. i can give is my opinion of them to the police for example. i like dressing in french wine even haute cuisine doesn't mean that those are excellent to tell you. and i like to tell in wine and food. you know, the wine is amazing and level in the to run into their food is very good and more natural than in front of you. i like to tell in fashion, in tokyo, when you're writing an elevator digits, when you send tchaikovsky on the way down, despite the fact much on the japan, is that now not very friendly to russia, and what were they simply did not reset the settings. yeah. well, i don't know who wrote this music, gainesville icons say, but they like, it's a lot just into the pen electrical band to do any of them. they loved piano music. so what did they think about us? they probably think of the kremlin stones that would cripple drink vodka here,
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attempts to be what else shouldn't they also think the trasha represents the opposite of freedom kind of fits. russia is overall, the regressive backward nation with no freedoms. and so i want to, to ask you as a person representing the culture at its highest, what it was more than just high culture exist without freedom. and what is freedom in the context of russian culture fullness full freedom that combines with a lack of taste that produces an r k. i think that and that's vulgar. and if a person has a good taste, and that's something everyone must hone and improve throughout their lives, and you'll see everywhere at the resume, difficulties doing, even as google to seen and have in taste means you have certain reasonable limits in your freedom. yeah, and that's and that's what makes freedom different from on a key. i believe russia has more freedom of speech to, of course you can cut this out. so yeah, but as far as i understand, we have more freedom now than germany. when you know this is because of all the
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festivals that was the most, they still invited performers from other countries of the machine. if they're willing to come meet, they may have problems upon their return home. so someone, when all right, it is so slow and perhaps more last question though, as we see now this attempt to cancel culture is no longer applied to russian culture only. but for instance, to your door caresses, who is greek, is guessing his participation in concerts cancelled mainly for the initiative of ukrainian musicians on the various pretext. kimberly, and then what do you think this process can eventually result in what kind of resolution can we expect? a 3 of them, my think, was the best answer to your question moist lou tubes that will be if i tell you a story, what happened to me in salzburg? so it seemed that was sometime before the great in conflict. but after the last thing was, and so it probably may ask whom i had a concert scheduled with the local, which in most i'll tell them,
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hold his truck. the performance went very well, and there was a left only the world to play one of charlotte symphonies. as a 2nd act young, but for the public was very welcoming, were a huge success. so period sending and then one person went up to the stage and stood in front of it with a slogan. i don't know what it said, but he was shouting something very loudly. the audience tried to boot him into silence. like, why the short space? no. was it come to the musicians or the orchestra that the, that goes in the model because try it was the local orchestra need both of you had been working so hard for a week to perform. i'm under my guidance use, and way chief to success. it was great to him to put the old in sort of get to closing. and so i came out on stage again. the man kept standing there with his slogan, shouting via, but i seen you. i think it was about cry mia? and he was probably asking me why i support this in, but i never even noticed something i remember going to the beach has of cry me. and
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as a kid was my mom, the of them was you brought to that and what i never had invitations to perform a concert and cried me a, this is and i started guessing invitations to perform that i only have to cry me. i joined rush through the room and that's when i realized i don't all the time for me . it wasn't russian. it wasn't mine as well. so yeah, but do more, less and so my on so 2 years back then i sold some cars. what should i do? came on to the stage for the 8th time. seemed for new so but then i picks up my music sheets. i'm sure. but symphony though and put them over my head up with you to the audience, stood up there was told on the close and the police took that amount of weight. it was the only thing that can save us is what lifts your soul and makes it bigger. and that's classical music, 1st and foremost the machine and speaking again, which in the present pulse and there's a big fan of classical music. it listens to it on the plane, the screen was is. so i'm going to takes piano lessons and really wants to play
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better and better. i think that i know they didn't do anything i've heard and play myself. can you get a sense? i'm sorry, this phones make him any more popular in the west, but in any case, the says here is about popularity in the west, maybe the 12 mattresses or countries. unity i thank you very much for speaking to us. thank you. thank you for watching hope this here again on once a part of
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