slogan the leader of the ron instilled in our society and our lead society that we can meet this we con, makes us seek to meet our own needs in the face of sanctions. so sanctions became an opportunity for iran ball need. what kind of opportunity was the products that used to be imported from the westwood no longer imported. so a new space was created for our professionals to find a market and make those products domestically for such supporting relations. we're also provided of course, the government also set good standards that not every product is produced and the only products that have a good quality level of purchase. therefore, the opportunity of sanctions caused the number of our knowledge based companies to increase from several 100 companies to several 1000. we found that the most important possibility that sanctions provided is that tens of thousands of university graduates were employed in these companies. the government agencies of the organizations and companies could not import from abroad because their economy

was crippled at hyatt. so they became interested in buying these products. and now a very good share of a wrong needs is provided by these knowledge based companies. now, it is not us who are losing profit, it is the west and european companies who lost the iranian market restaurant in china, our airlines main partners when it comes to politics, economy and even science and technology. how does cooperation with russia and china work in padded these technology par? can have there been any joint projects with these 2 countries? chain, right. we'll see in china and russia are a ron strategic partners in terms of technology cooperation. the biggest history of technological cooperation is between iran and russia, which goes back about 40 years ago. joint high tech companies between iran and russia were formed in the wrong and then vice versa. this experience happened in russia. this was formed in the field of medicine. and several joint companies are located in the parties, technology,

the pockets. this experience led to this technology partnership with some companies in other countries as well. we now have more than 10 companies in potties technology park that are ronnie and with foreign partners in the field of various high tech products. next, this happened with china with the shared experience of nano technology between iranian and chinese organizations throughout the campus technology park. we now have co operation agreements with several technology parks in russia. we exchange offices with each other. and the same thing will happen at the next level with china, so that we can continue to develop cooperation between our companies. if he likes wells around some of this and he is out, as always is good to have your company with us here on odyssey in san national in take a break while and i will be back in about 28 minutes. hopefully, drivers the

hello, i'm a know a chan. you're tuned into modus operandi. and just before the coven pandemic hit the world in 2020, the european union suffered a loss a divorce that was debated and hotly contested for years. we all know that now to be called for exit. but this year 2024. the you is looking to expand its family ties by starting x auction talks with ukraine and mold over, but several issues plague this courtship and one family member stands in the way so far. so we'll discuss it. all right, let's get into the m o the for decades turkey had been chasing the dream of joining the european union. as of now,

there seems to be little interest by most existing members to really open accession talks for them. despite flirting with the idea of this long term, nato member and ally, but suddenly in the fall of 2023 or so level under land. the current president of the european commission announced that formal accession talks were underway for ukraine. and we'll go back now for some you might chalk it up too well. yeah. okay . you crate in moldova are considered eastern. europe makes sense. there are a lot closer to the block than turkey. sure. but when you start exec many, the purpose of this block and rules for membership, suddenly turkey seems to be more in line victor, or by the prime minister of hungry, loudly standing in the way of ukraine and mol, dove as entry, and potentially with new leadership in slovakia or bon may not be the lone voice of

objection for a long joining us to break this all down. guest who has had political experience in europe himself is the mid time he is a former swiss m p. he's a, he was a journalist and author of several books including lucy oxy, didn't, and europe's existential dilemma to be, or not to be an american vassal gaze. so good to see you. thank you for being with us. thank you. thank you. i am happy to be with you again today to so we entered 2024 with the news that european commission president or slum under land wishes to expedite the accession of you create them although by to the block. but according to the use tree article to it, states that countries wishing to join must share the values of human rights freedom, democracy, a whole host of other major principles and values including protecting the rights of minorities within their respective borders. and when it comes to ukraine,

many of these principles i would say have not been met, especially in the way of minority rights. the ukraine government under zalinski, has actually moved to ban the russian language, found the russian orthodox church. and there was nearly a decorative this indiscriminate showing and war in the dawn mass region where the majority of residents are russian speaking or of russian ethnic origin. so long before the february 24 of 2022. before that conflict even began. how do you see this? how will ursula bunder land justify if these conditions really can't be met? yes, i show i show you another disease because if you look at all these phones, uh, credit is better ready to become a member of the new york and union. luckily because the duplex you mention allowed to do west strength of the mind already do use of the wash. i'm off the docs of

jobs and, and so on. but also because of the techniques that corruption, lack of that governance. and for instance, the council of elections, nobody inquired, should have a religious that to you. the election of last year and presidents have elections to so it was cancelled because of the situation because of which it's just a pretext. it's not due respect of democracy, which should be applied, which should be respected, the courting, according to do so. after you can to you, you have mention so at if you looks like the situation not on the stand up point of view as it is the case with the service or not from the la. but each your new portfolio called into the wards and the doors and the constitutional

time walk, do you up in your knology? grand is no possibility to become a member. but you know, we all know our custom here. and especially with you all, can you get these kind of the stuff out to these kind of uh, uh, you know, uh, equally, uh, uh, weight of tension during queen. and i think you know, this, this is the 2nd point from being offered off of the land release of the presidency of the permission at the end of this year. so for her, she's looking for a new job. she's got the date startup to show that it's cleared up to be come to a new secretary general out of today to show sees, drink, air repeating, to give to the united states credentials to become, to, to,

to replace mistrusting $10.00 at the stores. that's why she is ready to do anything she can in for your call or from grant in order to get the approval or for the united states. oh, thirty's! and that's why we cannot. i think our d. subjugation was just for the cavalry. and these not very just in my point of view, yes, her term coming to an end is worth highlighting here. very good point. you made. now the, the copenhagen agreement of 1993 that actually set forth more specific criteria for joining the block. it basically says that a country must have a stable and functioning democratic institutions and have a functioning market economies. again, looking at the ukraine,

a nation at war over nato expansion. his dreams was designated the most corrupt state in europe by major international bodies such as the u. n. and i am as their economy was in shambles for the last decade. it doesn't appear that they will even have an election this year. i guess we'll see. and then molto, but they've seen their government collapse in february of 2023. a number of high ranking officials residing immediately following, you know, this economic spiral spiral down and this mass inflation, they're now under these criteria neither moldova nor ukraine can actually meet. who do you suspect might object to these countries joining n y? yeah, probably countries like 10 guys and gary we do most because the, the guy on the president used to all them as was or as already said,

he's a poor was to be the membership of the month of andrew grant because down not because he does these countries i'm not able to do to become a member. that's the 1st type of position, but not, not all because of you know or do you benson, who claim the official support for was there lensky and the cap for gym? i think there is a kind of for, let's say, a parent apo and simple apparent need b t for quick. but when the negotiations read the recording and the really really take place, i think probably the many countries read or pause to these admission to dismember sheets of the,

to the membership to do the 2 countries advise a small country. so it's not to compete. gauge is not important, but let's you look at quin a credit for it says just look at agriculture. do the domain a projection of required is do you and make i don't going just train but also rickard charles, we to so yeah, so yeah. beans and i'm just kind of project the so direct competition and let's say i'm dumping into a competition. i dumped the conditions of the traditional western europe in agriculture between vehicle direct competition for the french part uses a fleet for the french dairy. uh, jerry port the stalls producers for instance,

or the cheese that sort but especially for wheat full so you offer all these kinds of stuff. it to be a problem. and as you can see for also for the german 4 to a for each. now you have or do so. the police are uh, the police. are people police, are you cause uh yes, uh agriculture called yourself, well, very dissatisfied with the impulse of inquiry on products at dumping prices because it's between destroyer uh the tv, from portal to farms. and i think when or this country, we have to speak of 5 to, to negotiate. we do plan and there we get lots of for a position coming from the agriculture and agri coach on set

to looking for assessing gemini now is the, is there how you, which demonstration or for presence or wrong, very angry against the government because they are losing um, purchasing power because of the price of no control of already of already the has to pay bob. they have to pay more for gas because of the new york and sanctions against rush out and sold out these people are very angry. and let's do my job and what would be the case is the have to compete with dumped prices coming from clayton to just an example of the difficulties which i'll expect to reach. uh yes or on the way

you read the negotiation. busy and also we do plan for quin membership to the up and you and you know, coming up next summer 2023 found the stunning announcement by bricks, nations that they had many countries applying for exception could be you announcement the a tit for tat. we'll discuss it when we return with game, it's all on sit tight. the m o will be right back, the the

the welcome back to the m o. i'm manila chance game is hon, former switch m, p, and author of the book. europe's existential dilemma to be or not to be an american vassal, is back to continue the conversation. so get back in 2020. just before the coven pandemic had the world b, u. k. divorce, the union. after years of debate. breakfast leaders successfully campaign to the public that being a member of the effectively removed great britain's independence. that membership often interfered with doing what was best for britain. they said, and i've heard the critics of the you say that this is kind of a failed experiment. how do you view the european union? is this block and joint currency of, of the euro? is this effective and creating a more stable european continent?

i think if you look at the past the past, it was pretty success for because the european union was able to bring you up and countries are kind of study d and go so uh, pretty effective that the kind of nic cookie dropped event in the last the kids and that's, i think the benefit and we must recognize that the dish uh the new york and union was able to bring to uh, just been because uh, even though it was to the house critics. and there were in dallas to ask for decent games, do you will. but if you look the your pin to read, see what's pretty successful. you didn't come up as some forecast. those you had said, oh shoot,

joseph or shoot the gates or go when you was in prevented books. busy so it was pretty successful, but i mean, in the trimming yells of difficulties or yes, difficulties, really. we go. why? because of the debt. there is a huge step now in for the countries. that's a problem. so you rock we have to face. and if you means that you are so it means a weakening off the provides and it is the case for and says, look, i even send you guys the suites about. busy at the beginning and go through your the, the, the, the, the change between the you and let's just find it. was one frank, $0.50. uh, one year old. was one time $0.56. no,

it's only $0.95. so it was a 30 percent off is uh uh you know, uh, capacity lets say that the u. n. g 3. so do you want me to continue to collapse? i mean, between not be a strong correct see a strong monday and it's the 3 b also bring some problems for do you all. ready do, do you up in new york in union? compared to shawn, you know, i'm doing well back at these kinds of problems. so i think the do to the clouds. we look at the be a more docile dr. dr. into cutting deals for these for a kind of be capacity of do your opinion. yeah. but let's say it was practice

success for them. and all i probably your pin is we get the capacity to or to get to, to bring a novice up to this problem. but you come to really go in the coming zeros. yeah. to and also just to mention or so you're all, you should look the took, i think good. so good talk, i'm a domestic product of to you are paying you again is also using a mac, a chance on to go by stage and do the path. if you up is diminishing and you through not uh, be uh, increase, continue in the future because of the sell time and capacity and capacity of the, of your plan. the color moves to be projects or the last big projects walk and

projects was to you up in space. agend see was the address of planes. you know that, but it was very good projects, but there is nor your projects you even in the oxygen setting. teddy jones nor, and then you kind of make chavez, you come to, you cannot see the type of c d even for the defense industrial, you know, for the play do 5th generation play. it was, or most i bound on general because of incapacity of germany, tribes of demand play, y'all's a to define coming projects come on economic projects and that's also diminishing, depressed because of the capacity of for you up and so do a kind of be source of capacity because you know, it can be capacity,

you have less money, less social. uh but you. yes. but just to, to pay this or some expenses like for the agricultural constance. yeah. let's not forget that with the expansion of brooks and the conversation about developing its own currency, you know, perhaps even town or bricks, currency and the bricks expansion. so i mean, it makes a lot of sense. um, currently, as the the rules we have it, it requires unanimous agreement for major issues such as funding and loans to sister states, accession and so forth. it's already been group of over 2 dozen countries, finding unit enmity is proving extremely difficult. so longer land is now suggesting changing the rules to be something like simple majority on major

votes within the council. the french and germans are not happy about this. what do you think? yes, i think i think or lead to support countries would be happy with the do the end of the new media wars up inside the decision making process your decision making process because they can see advantage. they're not big enough to wait, you know, inside to you up in the decision process. so that would be happy because they can see the direct advantage to have the same thing. but jewelry d were booked for the b plus your life g. busy and the trans, you guys, you tell the, uh, uh, the, uh, the uh, countries reach accounting, renew on the front of me. and the final show. as you know, we not be so happy. uh, uh,

because we lose the best deal for you. especially if you are strong in the color me, which is a our investment, which is the case of german nix or in the finance, which is fine. so the case of that on, because you read the majority of or you can be impose, you can be applies uh for instance, to, for decisions made by the quality sons of smaller country. let's say they've been efficient. and then if you survey countries, for instance, for contribution finance or contribution, but what would happen is you have a better deal, smaller country, asking to or deciding against the, let's say for 5 or can be go countries that they were

not asking them to pay the bulk of the contribution to the you need to redo the park or barbara for germany, because germany and all use the poverty your office to find the german, these fighters send your domain is a bank, contribute or medical to good talk to your to let you measured we should have a courtesy shuttle small dot trunk is asking ball, but need to jump to this. oh, we have decided to do better already to oh, so you're all not obliged to respect the decision of the majority. i am sure. germany or france, the not to be very yes, very happy with it. and that's, that's a possibility. if you ever budgeted to on that last week, the intensive, the you was indeed to form a stronger block together to help one another stand economically and really

to be a part from the us. did this kind of unofficial goal proved to be true to the block become successful in, in breaking free of us influence? i think if you look at the last years, it is just perspective to be an independent block to, to, to be organized or, you know, to just try and then uh you up in independence under was the stage as completely paid under contract. we can see that jerome just lost uh, a 25 months since the beginning of the really diarrhea door washer military operation in the in oakland and now with the war. and by this time, it's also kind of for the event which is also recon in europe.

i think the capacity of you ought to be in dependent to, to be a subway is completely vanished. a because you're up as being for the best sized by the united states. that's the case insight debate to, but also for the new york and union. because who use deciding of new york and parties, you know, and the uh for the, okay, the following parties. that's the, that's the united states. nobody has, and your content to look at the show still shots. you was unable to ask for the truce for the notice to the adult stream, a separate page in the september of 22. so it was a direct sheet against john the investment in this pipeline to above the

augusta lights in the pipeline which has got spike and it was separate gauge and germany was unable to demand a real inquiry. and we know that it was the sabotage, was organized by uh, let's say, maybe a claim. yeah, no, i don't know. we're booked on the let's read to reduce the size of united states. i'm more of a general west of the countries and the weight because it was sort of the dual credit that they cannot down the table to organize such or such. so, and i talked to, so if even the power of ford shows law for germany is not the embers to get another so or boxes or a laptop or again it's food, product g. what kind of independence of serenity can you

walk in you and then have you visited the united states? all right, unfortunately we have to make that the last word de ms. hall on former swiss m. p. an author of the book, europe's existential dilemma to be, or not to be an american vassal. thank you so much for your insight. i always appreciate having you on all right, that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila chan. thank you so much for tuning and we'll see you again next time and figure out the m. o. the the

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