of the, the, the sacks was prepared for my radical islamic themselves, naturally facilitated by west and special services. special services, if you prayed, also have a direct link to a bed of russia, the federal security. so this is in western powers played a role in the recent care supplier and loved the 9 those high court rules that would keep these found a really nice size can this is potentially expedition to the us. but the number of conditions on ways of talking to them outside of the west of the science of the games for us on the mental to move the p makes that statement and i made it so much

energy for them of the latest headlines. i'm next to him for the well, i'm his gas and song buffington will divide the, the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered on peter lavelle. the criminal is declared that russia is now in a state of war due to the west involvement in ukraine. does this mean russia is changing strategy and aims? and should we expect the collective west to continue up the escalation bladder, the

cross. ok, and you and i'm joined by my guest practice yonkers in belgium. he is a historian and political analyst. and in belgrade we crossed to john box mich key is a political consulting, gentleman cross that goes into effect. that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate a john, let me go to you. i mean, there's so much as happens in the last few days. my original idea of with this program was dimitri pest golf. the print spokesman from the kremlin, made the announcement that brushes in the state of war. then we had the terrorist attack a few hours later. and it does look like this is the more this escalation is actually continuing. even though we, when i came up with the idea of, with the program, we hadn't had the terrorist attack. how do you put this all together as well? i think there is no discontinuity on the side of the american and english public tiers who are running the regime in kids. i don't give credit or blame to

anybody in care for what's happening. these are literally hand up. it's run by the anglo american empire. the, the war that's taking place in ukraine is a proxy war. and now all it's been added to the mix is proxy terrorists. and we know that days isis was an organization that was directly linked to the right to the united states and was used by the united states in the past. so it's a no surprise that they would go into their standard bag of tricks and pull out another proxy actor. what price? i mean it's, it's quite curious, isn't it? i mean 55 minutes after it was made public that this terrorist event was happening in moscow as it was continuing. the, the us government comes out and says it was isis. that's kind of interesting. they still can't figure out who blow up the north stream pipeline, but they are absolutely sure of what happened in moscow. they also said that they had given warning. we don't know what that was, what kind of warning, how specific it was, why they did it. um, you know,

that needs to be the investigated. a whole lot of things need to be investigated, but they were really quick to make the decision to put the blame. obviously they were trying to protect ukraine because they also said ukraine wasn't behind it. well, why would you say that if it, if you weren't and it wasn't there a suspicion, go ahead in belgium. it is definitely a very suspicious the, and very hard thing to say. of course, the moment somebody commits it, there is a fact that it would jump in as a country that is not officially involved in anything, in this case, as the united states. i'm saying like okay, you know, for sure it wasn't much of great. you know, that is very all very specific as well that they say it has to be biased, has to be isis. i mean, just because of the fact that it was a better is a bag by itself doesn't always necessarily mean it has to be isis, of course, and even more and more specifically the side of both ice as part of some problems. so the ones that are active in the sun, so it's very specific, very all they just start immediately posting less than an hour off there. and if

that happens, and in many ways i think that is uh, it's more like a smoking gun in the hand of the americans under your gradients of course, by proxy because the fact that they are denying so, but humanly that it was not that it was done so that they're denying any sort of involvement. goldman makes it all more hold of more suspicious. also, since we know, and when you look at is a fact of course with ers that happened officer emergent statement was made. these are not the stereotypical modus operandi. situations often. i suspect these people, they did not go in there with the full inventions. all, it's even funny what market and they did not go in there, devote themselves up, start to die in a blaze of glory. that's a into the finding and specify the police. they ran off they faced by the way, in the same card that they went in, which is very strange and kind of stupid. and they, when they were called, eventually embryos today, they ran off into the forest, hoping that they could run away for their lives. these are not, you know,

that it didn't, these don't seem at least dedicated hobbies like the 3rd of the kind stuff we have . see, for example, in syria or even the kinds that participated in 2004 in the best loved shooting heart attack. my goodness of the same kind of felt like fearless do you, how does that, that? that's the 3rd is that, that we are used to see it is all just look more like hired guns where as we know apparently as also fades a some that may be to them was considered a pretty by the amount of money. and we know, according to their own statements that they were, that they were still hoping to get paid for the fact they were hoping to get through. it doesn't get paid more. yes, i'm practice they. if these were religious fanatics during the month of ramadan, that does also seem quite really strange, but we have, i did, the investigation is ongoing. we're not drawing any conclusions. i certainly am not doing that. okay. the state department seems to have an inside loop here,

which is kind of odd in itself here. john. another thing the, the 1st thing that came to my mind and actually tweeted about it is a potential smoking gun no direct connection. but victoria newlands nasty surprises comment as she was leaving her position. that's rather odd. this is very nasty far even worse than nasty. but john it does so some kind of intense john. absolutely. remember when we're dealing with and it was victoria and we're, we're dealing with a grand daughter of a nazi a card carrying nazi propaganda is from world war 2. so she is dealing with a, an agenda that has been running through her family for 3 generations. now. the fact that she might have had her title changed or being moved off to the official position of maine. my cracker for the state department in ukraine does not mean

that she and her network behind her is not still involved. i don't think that america is withdrawing any assets from this battle. i think what we've got here is just another us organized attack on russia. and we've got, as i said before, we've got a proxy war. and now we've got proxy, terrorist and all of these proxies can be traced back to the united states, and it's not hard to do it. what we're going to see next is how russia will respond once they get these men on trial. once the full facts are delivered and once we find out who engaged them, that's going to be key information and it will affect this conflict quote. and then that, you know, obviously i have to watch western media is difficult as it is. but, you know, they're saying that this is a, a strike against russia to spoil, quote, unquote, prudence, re election. another way to divide people,

not all of those things of worth. i mean, i've lived in this country for 26 years straight. i have never seen such an outpouring of grief. and believe me, gentlemen, there's been a lot of tragic things that happen in this country since i've lived here. but the unity of the people is extraordinary now and how it will. another issue is practice . you know, um, uh, russian will um, seek revenge against you crate. i don't see it changing the military operations whatsoever. they're made. it might have changed a bit. his cops comments, you know, i, i took, i took it on board is, you know, yes, russia, is it a conflict with the collective west? i'm, i'm glad they finally said that, because we know that that's been the case since the very beginning, though. will it's possible that the intelligence assets and you claim will be targeted more one can ask why they haven't been in the past, but we'll leave that aside. rec, it's a very good point and i think a lot of a lot of criticism that is being being billed. it's both, i think,

domestic and also abroad really against the way russia has conducted the especially military reparation at least criticism. i'm not talking about the bro, your premiums, you know, the liberal west in the predicts, which go on a very, um, sort of a 100 times and about. you know, you're also being some sort of major boogeyman. but the actual analysts will often say the, especially people who are you say, this position will often say, and i think this is definitely true that russia has been still using the, the developing glove and dealing which is great. of course, a lot of people have died tragically, of course, a lot of degrading soldiers and particularly hostile, vague and ridiculously stupid offensive so such as the boat drought declaration. recently. of course that guy in buttons. but in terms of the destruction that could have been resolved by ukraine, especially if it compared to for example, how does less as wage war on, on you can saw the uh, on the dock and syria and libya and on demand and is really one guys a drawing dog,

i know exactly if you, if you were, if brussard at the going to war against you freight and the way that is run, it has gone through war against like a doctor recently. but the doctor would have been in the millions, if you, if you translate it to the amount of people who live in ukraine. we know recently there was a, i believe the latest effect on the part of the i for electric, electric land, at least is the, one of the 1st times in which you rush as far as i see, wasn't the 1st times with russia has destroyed a primary power reduction station with a ukraine. so part of it was opened the substations that were being destroyed. so cause that means there is a company going on for over 2 years now. and there are so i drew electric and you know, gold plans or whatever running that provide power to your grand blanket pro practice for as far as i know, i may be wrong, but there's still, there's still a gas being transmitted through ukraine from russia to europe. exactly, yeah, precisely, these are, these are things that could have been destroyed before the process would have gone

much further. but then of course, the problem is deductible. would have also been much worse as not just for the military, but for the civilian population. and as the civilian population and ukraine is in many ways considered to be, they are probably people to the russians. they are in many ways. russians themselves. that's why, but within the interview with the doctor charles and said this is in many ways the civil war. yeah. in reality, against, basically that's so that's, i would say just as the civil war, but the russians and all the russians that don't believe that they're rushing, you know, think, well, i mean, the impact is, is very interesting because, you know, if you look at the entire history of independent ukraine, is it they've, they've been very competing ideas of what it means to be ukranian and whatnot. and then unfortunately with victoria new and again we have this uh, uh, deletion, neo nazi or alter nationalist were put in power after the cool. and that's what tipped ukraine completely upside down before that it was, you know,

they muddled through with these very difficult ideas about identity. but the united states and the european union in force that identity on ukraine on thursday because that's what i'd like to just go ahead and jump in. but before we go to the break ahead of the, the, in, in this entire conflict, people in the west might not understand russia's motives. and people in the west might have been expecting russia to make a full scale war on ukraine. because they've taken the ukrainian propaganda line depth that you create. and so not russians, and therefore these are 2 enemy nations that are trying to destroy each other. now that's why russia entered this conflict years of late trying job. yeah, i have, i have the job, we have to go to a hard break. okay gentlemen, we're going to go those onto a heart breaking down so that we'll continue our discussion on your mind space with i think the

the, the to take a fresh look around as a life kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power type vision with no real opinions. fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really once a better wills,

and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the welcome back across stock. were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to mind you were discussing. you create the let's go back to john in belgrade. what are the, what have been down sides of television is that you have to go to break sometimes. ok. i interrupted, you please continue in no problem. uh, the key point here is that the, the western pundits and even the western military operatives have miss understood the nature of russia's offensive in ukraine. russia operated on what america

calls the responsibility to protect a theory america gave itself years ago, the right to intervene anywhere in the world where a minority is threatened with genocide or other attack. and of course, that's exactly what was happening in ukraine. the russian speaking minority in ukraine, which has rushing as its mother tongue, was being pressured, was being driven out and was being physically attacked by the government army of ukraine 410000 people. 14000 people like, i'm sorry, go ahead. work. before russia entered the conflict, so this is the, this is the, the difference of the way russia deals with these things. russia tried to secure and has effectively done so with most of the territory. the overwhelmingly russian speaking s. nick, russian population of ukraine. it still has territories left deliberate from

ukrainian army, but that's the 1st point to start from. secondly, this attack in moscow looks to me, as i said earlier in this, in this discussion looks very much like a proxy terrorist attack run again from the united states and the objective such an attack would be to cause russia to go into full scale war. why? because if america ending wouldn't, of course, can drive russia into a full scale war against ukraine. they will be in bidding hatreds between 2 brothers that will last for generations. and if they're losing the war in total in ukraine, what better then to see the next war today? and that's where we get to this situation with the terror attack seating tomorrow's wars today. that's what it looks like to me and i think that that's what we can expect america to do again and again,

not so long as this conflict continues. that's why, you know, this is ridiculous. talk you know, where they want a korean solution. you know, they froze and comp like break. that's just really nonsense because yes, ukraine is exhausted. it's having problems with man power and munition. the whole thing debt also of the russia is not going to settle and say, okay, well, just calm it down, and then you claim dest rebuilds with nato health. that's not going to happen. then this, all of this would have been in vain. bread. yes, absolutely. and they think that regardless of course, as, as the lessons from 2014, you know, like there are back in 2014. yeah. they took a rush, i made sure to protect and to do basically reclaim dry me. i considering the fact that they're at the, the, to new bands arrived influence, you know, neo nazi influence governments. the officers by the 14, you're a might on to, uh, was a threat directly opposed to the russian community as well as to the russian invest

in the try me on which was, which was interesting and intrinsic. part of the deal of following the break up, the soviet union debt would allow your credit to still retain in crimea, you know, in a home. the condition of goal is that the russian likes a fleet good still be allowed to do more there and basically onto operator, and that was all at risk. but unfortunately, in retrospect of course, it is very easy to speak onsite as to what are you spending. but in retrospect, of course, it would actually have probably been easier and probably been been better for us to have moved in for the liberation of the the entire done boss reason back in 2014. yeah, of course. the reason i didn't do it is because there was a whole that we could that that could be negotiations that could be thought you have diminished. of course, you have. so let's do was elected as the scanner, the, you know, what's the against the, you rally as a, as a full edition against these, these are these war mongering neo nazis like for example, you know,

he was supposed to be the guy that does that make things a lot of people felt for it and in many ways pressure, maybe the bulk reverse or said, okay, we have to give them a chance. we have to give this a shot and see what we can get. unfortunately, that didn't get anything. that's why in 2022, the, the only next step to prevent c, nato application. and they to membership an expensive of your trade at the destruction of the russians. and both of us, besides the military operation. yeah, well, you know, it's on, i mean, if we think you know about, think the chronology all all the way up to today you have a, it's a refutable. the united states was heavily involved in the cooling 2014 breakfast already brought it up. we know now that the west was dishonest about the whole minsk process. uh then we have north stream then. um, um, what rights i right before that we had the stem bull process to end the war. the west didn't want that. and now we have a terrorist attack in moscow. i'm sorry,

i mean, you're dealing with this a western dishonesty, john and this is a lie upon lie upon lie the entire thing. it has every sign of being a set up from the start. first, zelinski is brought from nowhere as a comedian to be the star of a television series run by one of the all the gars color moist key. who, who i pushed zelinski into the public eye as a president in a television series called servant of the people. so basically zelinski was campaigning illegally before and the election was called to become the president of this pseudo state, the, the key of rump ukraine. and to run a war by lying about bringing peace. and it certainly isn't the 1st time that america has told somebody that they're coming to bring peace and actually brought or what they did here in yugoslavia is a prime example this these past 25 years. and i covered the war here as

a journalist. these 25 years had been 25 years of american coordinated, an english backed war across the globe. it has been an attempt by speak color revolutions, fake lying media, fake in g o. s, and fake political figures to take over countries without having to have full scale wars. and now, when they're about to lose this war in ukraine, they're trying to do whatever they can to cause russia to act in a manner which plays into their relationship with the ukrainian people forever. and i can tell you, there is no sign that russia will make that mistake. russia has the ability to pinpoint strikes and russia will eliminate the foreign factor that's running this war. these are american advisors. these are american pilots deal citizens who are going to be flying the f sixteens. this is an american run proxy war complete now

with proxy terrorist. yeah. so in practice, but it's not going so well. that's why they're panicking or go. that's why the cab resume is resorting to terrorism. we see a border of cities and russia being bombed during festivals killing civilians. only civilians they were tired so that there, there is a, a continuity here. the more desperate you are, the more panic you are, the more you're going to result is, or to these types of actions. go ahead, breath. yeah, this is, this is also why they are relying more and more on the of the so called the legions of russell dears that are, that they claim are, you know, less than this. it is work now for your brain because of these things. busy it is very difficult to verify but they, they go in the back border cities, they go and necessitate people like the assessment is the 1st they go and then this is a very interesting just a little back. so i just got the brady and investment to deduce done, which is the country of residents of all 4 of the main main, the director of the groups itself is you have took him off a lady that was the,

i guess i'd be invested in your grade does it take you some was before this before 2020 duty above the chief of the foreign intelligence service of your train? he has a state of the offer of marriage and his date of service in the as you, as well as before, the border guards. he's a man with 00 diplomatic experience, who was at the until that point until 2022, exclusively, and military and intelligence operate. this was something that became invested in the budget you stuff when the best for that point probably went down to the radar because you know, respectfully who cares with the training and invested it does, it gets done. but it is interesting. now when you see this disconnection floating about more and more, why is the, the former for adults and steve of your grade now and invested there in budget gets done and trying to for ment, relations with a country. but you can start, which has the fact to sort of open border policy with dresser. and we know that hundreds of thousands of subjects who are very often in, in bumper as conditions you know,

and might be quite desperate for funds. who knows who are living and in russia and, and who can like these 4 people be easily swayed by momentary achievements, but doesn't mean the value of each of the, of course, the kingston binders. and by right. yeah, i agree with the other guest speaker that we're talking most likely about a far bigger operation that involves the united states at the very least. but this is all mazda building. i ability of all the building, right. so united i, these are radius of reach. could feel people in moscow, you know, good luck trying to prove that, right. that is, that is exactly what they're doing. you're trying to, this will not really affect the rush as the best to be to, to wage war. i absolutely agree with. it was what job you want to jump and go ahead for you. i just wanted to say that these are plans which have been on the books for 50 years. this destruction of what was the former soviet union, was planned by us intelligence services, an english intelligence services way back,

even in the 1950s they supported neo nazis who followed on into the 1950s in ukraine as in the 1970s. when's big brzezinski was the national security advisor in the united states. they were planning these very operations. this is a long term seating of hatred, followed by war seating of hatred, followed by war in the ultimate aim of creating an in the t between the 2 nations, which is unbridgeable. i don't believe that that can be done. the history of these peoples is so long and so deep that america's plastic overlay will not succeed. you know, one thing i want to point out, because i think the western propaganda is trying to shut out any kind of discussion here. i would urge our, our viewers to use google or a public utility that everyone has access to type in is why makes terrorism in

ukraine. you'd be shocked by what you see before 2000 for team, the different kind of connections that ukraine is had with these groups, allowing some of their members to live in ukraine for what reasons we don't know. we could all speculate here, but do a little bit of research here. my 2 guests here have given us facts, not just opinions. that's all you get in western media is opinions. there are a lot of facts. there's a lot of dots and i want to end the program by saying, we're not making any definitive conclusions investigations are going on. but there's a lot of lingering questions and that's what we do here on this program with my wonderful guest as all the time we have one, it's like my guessing billed. right. and in belgium, and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at archie. see you next time, remember prospect. the

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