so they, i free the tools that will come out, they don't want the world to lease some once again to the details of a that's a horrible. and they went to the campaign and totally unlawful new to the campaign that the conductance against against yugoslavia. they also don't want us to highlights the responsibility of their leaders at the time of need to leaders. that's why they want to, to shut the miles off. so everybody, the, i'm not interested in this, but in reality we 1st ask before the, before this meeting on monday and differentiate, presenting to you for using proceed procedural whose is locked. uh, i will be. but in reality, we stopped at every meeting of the security council during this week. with highlighting these procedural, russo follow a french colleagues and the 14th of the vote of the agenda of the meeting. and we also squeezed the phrase or 2 about nato's aggression. i guess

you guys slider so instead of having one meeting on monday just they actually have the whole week. it's worth pointing out as well, isn't it? that russia simply requested a discussion regarding the nato bombing a, not the adoption of any kind of formal resolution on the mouth or something as basic as that. on the 1st real significant down there for history, all of the bombing 25 years on. it's an important date. it was their opposition from a specific countries. you mention france, there was, it was the one we're using. do you think a certain reason or where there are various reasons why those countries did not? why there was so such opposition to having a discussion of the debate. this is something that's uh, usually not happening the as the un and the security council, because there is an article, a number 2 of the provisional rules of procedure of security council. which implies

that the current president of the council calls a meeting upon the request of any council member. usually these equals some kind of freedom of speech and freedom of expression and nobody questions such beads. but in these and this time at this time, we really looks like we really have ships, the nerve of our western colleagues, especially the french calling. there is nothing extra ordinary, not request. and we said that's the consequences of nato aggression. i felt until this date and actually all the problems that we have on the ball comes specifically in the relations between serbia and it seems like robots costs of a. we're also triggered by need to address them. we can say that this is their relevance. we can say that this is historic for fax only. there are a lot of historic situations on the agenda of the call. so that's

a mets or even today. how can we discuss me the east, for example, without discussing the consequences of the last of the 1973 or 9 to 6 to 7 or even 1948 is absolutely impossible. so this is ridiculous at the last world. yesterday, there were 6 countries altogether, and actually it was clear divides between the west, some countries on longer with some countries and the security council. so the west countries, the rest, some countries, they acted in line with the block discipline and they supported each other. but it was absolutely clear that their way behind these attempt to impose the sounds. so sheets in security council, which is a very difficult to conceal from from world public. yeah, there are 15 countries, 5 permanent members. so we got just below the threshold without, without the 2nd number, the 6, if we adopt these very, promote is french logic. them of put in order to hold a meeting, we should have got a 9 volts for the meeting. so we were had

a short sale zeros short of these 9 volts. but according to our logic, as french questions, not the agenda items that we used about the meeting itself. they should have. uh, they should have updates uh, 9 volts, but the president uh japan. also blaine's the blades into the hands of uh, west some countries for obvious reasons. and so she didn't want to formulate the question made in the right way. that's happened sometimes unfortunately. and this curious across some people in serbia just to pick up and something you said people in the country who survived the, the 78 days of nato bombing. and then, of course, the aftermath were many more people died. and they said, we will never forgive. and we will never forget, but you think that you and you've mentioned some of the countries involved, that the western powers that took part wish that they could for a guest thought it was just essentially put under the rug. exactly. that was behind

their reasoning, french and best of the planes. that's uh survey. it was not aware of the fact of the meeting so rational didn't consult with serbia. and this was the belief and flight because so that was very much interested in the holding these meeting, ox, everything, prime minister. even. so that's just a case specifically to new york to be brought to this meeting and run the friendship presented. he was thinking she was teaching him default listening to his beasley explains that serbia was not the way of freshman requests. so actually, to a survey who was even more interested to spell that through the spell out the truth about what has happened then to remind that the consequences of this aggression i still felt they still felt by people leaving their hands. we had to refer us to whom i'm very thankful for their readiness to participate. and these refers whereabouts to explain in detail what are the consequences for certain population medical uh, illogical infrastructure. what time works that i felt even right now uh 25

years after these migrations. so these would have been a very, very important discussions. and of course it gave our western colleagues uh, hold seats and they wanted to avoid it at any price. and that's why the really uh, stakes the for the ability and there they all sorted to the council asking for the so the degree to procedural a votes and trying to conceal the fact that they were questioning the effect of the meeting and not the item on the edge and the reason was very shameful and pathetic to which there may be people are watching start wondering why 255 years old. that of course, the anniversary is so significant this week. but why the offense of what happened in you? then you can slow, i'll be a why are they so important? know for russia that they are important not only for us and they are important for the whole world. and we see that there are still open. the ones in the ball comes

not only in serbia, but elsewhere. and especially when we speak about the relations between billed rate increase to now there are a lot of the full outs that's really offensive as, as a sensitive premium right now in serbia and around. and so the cost of assorted is defining international community. i define security council resolutions, relevance of 1st and foremost, foremost, 1244 recently were shows that the elementary assembly of the council of europe recommended the mission. of course, the will to the council, which is a clear violation of resolution $1244.00. so all of these things are happening because of a need to aggression. it goes to gus lobby because of the fact that the national war was absolutely devastated to tons of rapes by way of some countries they

bypassed security council. the moments the this to the trash a china will not support such an action. uh some uh, some scholars believe that this was a turning points in the whole system of international relations because this was kind of a different uh, the freezing or for the free for the freezing of the contradictions that have frozen off to the cold war. so it was kind of a resurrection of, of, of cold was searching for, and i think that there are a lot of reasons for that. so we, we believe that these precedents when the night so of luck attacked an independent country and actually seized part of it started today. and them declare it's uh, the independent clause, the independent states. they are, am always imposing on everybody to recognize these states. this is likely

a precedent when the post war post cold war system was chapter and the helsinki act was chapters at this moment. and of course, the west doesn't want to acknowledge it. they, they say that doesn't matter very much. they are now referring to the ones that have them in 2022, but they are absolutely authentic in trying to conceal the truth about this aggression and its role in international relations and the they're all of which fall out and that the national relations yeah, you raise a lot of fab big topics there. i'll return to something a little bit later if i can, but just returning to 1999. what was your assessment? what is your assessment of russia's stance on the nato bombing campaign? i thought time on has most schools position shifted at all over the years since then? well that was the turning point. i remember it's quite well, it was already a young diploma to me before and service. and the very many people remember

as well. that's uh there was these famous, so you turn over the atlantic by the russian by the russian federal government. so you're getting, you pretty michael. he was going to washington to sign. so it's in agreements about financial assistance from the states and the international money into the funds. so what that i don't remember exactly, but people get these things are going to learn to about the aggression to make a u turn and get it turns out to moscow. this all was a very symbolic. and so i think that was the rights move to make because it was absolutely clear at this point. that's the only problem is this of the west. all the, all the hopes that there will be a fair international system built up to the dissolution of the soviet union out that, that the west will keep the problem is that way, given to, to solve you attend the russian leaders at that moment. all these hopes are absolutely useless and baseless the west is having its own agenda and its implies

these, these time. and that is implies a doing away with us live in serbia who knows what will be next time. so they move right them where kind of a shock, because people really where hoping that this going out this would never happen. that way. hoping that where there were certain openings in the relations between the russian, the west. they were hoping that the, the 30 minutes of the cold war has gone forever. but the west with his actions proved otherwise. and uh, we are where we are. i think that a lot of things that happen easily, also route back to these very unfortunate to the criminal decision by anybody need to lead us just to point out what the russian leader has said subsequently, invalid were put in stating at the bombing of belgrade was a turning point for most of itself on one of the defining moments between east and west since the cold war a do you agree that it was a significant? how's that?

it's absolutely, absolutely. i would like to say that. so this is a, this is a ethics ethics of, of these time and the ethics of international relations. and of course, this is a benchmark the whole market that we all remember and this will forever stay in our memory. and no matter how the west tries to, to consume attempt to put it in the shade, they will never succeed. in doing so. the western refusal to discuss the events come shortly after serbian president alexandra boot church warren, that quote difficult days lie ahead for his country. what do you think he meant by that? well, i may be mistaken, but it looks like she was mentioning this decision. that's a reference to a decision or for alignment or assembly on the cost of, of your, of, to meet the customer as an independent states. this is of course,

total violation of international law for you guys, security council resolution absolute lawlessness basis. it'd be placed on the example of these rules based international order that the us and its allies promoting, where they are formulating the rules and they are asking and demanding that all this a be to this rules. it says nothing to do with international law. and you mentioned costs of, oh, earlier the self proclaimed authorities, they are how they choose most good trying to use the issue of the nato bombing. it'd be this lobby a, a, some sort of justification for what is now happening in ukraine. how would you respond to that as well? is difficult for me to comment. so what's the, what's on the mind? i think they'd better think about how to manage the problems that they have. great, it's in relations between christian and build rate. we recently discussed in the secuity call, so of the issue of the banning of the circulation of serve and dina,

in the northern parts of, of crossover. which means the life of tolerable for thought for certain population of these, of these area. there are a lot of other things that's cost of the leaders from is to build right in the framework of the brussels discussions under the us of the european union. but the gaps, no single pro promise out of this and things are further being complicates. in spite of these, uh, the prospect of, of course, so uh, being admitted to the council of europe. this up to so been friends to formulate the reaction. but this is absolutely disgusting, frankly, what the west is doing in the so called solicitation. so i think that the possible effect i started to distribute to think about this events and lots of mentions, something else is happening in the other. but you know, you can solve an ukraine, have both become focal points in the re shipping on orders in europe. however,

while the west was quick to back, the self proclaimed independence of costs of a rapidly quick. i remember when that happened it's refused to recognize rushes, reunification to try me on more recently for new regions. can i get your, your, why such an inconsistent approach to this? it just seems to be an opposite different levels as well. these are absolutely uh, shameful, the blades and double standards. uh, we discussed this issue repeatedly with the rest of the colleagues, but they pretend to be absolutely deaf blind them. now, when we raised these issues, we, for example, points out to them that you know, the cost of, of the independence was brooklyn's by the problem. whereas the decision on the cry me or was they can as a result of for different brands. and so if you speak about democratic procedures,

then they way absolutely observed in case of, of russia, but they were absolutely disregard as in case of costs of. so of course, these are, these are believes and double standards. so these is need the cornerstone of these um, a double stand that sound the policy of rules based international order. that's the west is trying to impose. i think this is obvious for everybody, for every unbiased scroll up for every unbiased diploma is absolutely clear. what has happened? impossible, and what are the for a lot, what does they fall out of? it's on all of us. if i can turn away from the uh you can stop the underbrush tree for a moment or 2 and talk about the un security council itself. so to what extent is it still relevant able to fully function when it comes to conflicts like a train on gaza? there's some critics say it's turning into another league of nations which became the funds they had of the 2nd world war. how does the time come to reform the u. n

. s. c, and what sort of changes are needed there in your if you well, frankly, i don't think that the skillets across the security council is the relevant. and the, i don't think that it's a price comparison between the u. m. and the league of nations. the big difference is of the existence of, of the permanent members of the security council who have the right to veto. this is a very important function which actually should be viewed as the key incentive to find and negotiate the solution. and that's how it usually works. for example, recently a restaurant china to use the veto when you yes, table to resolution, which was actually the green light for the 0 to continue what it does in gaza with reference to the ceasefire,

which was actually the main demand for the international community only as the tournament determines the imperative obedience these 5. so i really failed to understand what is it determines to imperative on how it can be implemented practically. so when he told these draft, and immediately after this, uh, there was another draft prepared by a non permanent members of the security council, which demanded ceasefire. and these dropped was adopted. the bulk of the situation was on the edge of the security cause of those where there are no deep differences among the 5 permanent members. and so they are, the council is very efficient. certificate of council works together. i specifically have in mind for example, african issues or like columbia or some other crisis situation so. so these 2 issues, they are very important. they are very loud, but the, the not to present the bulk of the agenda will disagree with the cause of the

counsel of course, needs to be reformed. everybody agrees that it's needs to be formed, but the positions of the country is a very different of everybody. for example, acknowledges that's a security council. it should be the conversational disagree with your council should reflect the situation in the world and uh that there should be like a correction officer started injustice was the effort come continental issues numerous and we sure it presents a lot of items on the agenda of security council, so everybody's in favor of adding a african members to the security council. same about different candidates in america, but uh they are, there is also understanding. that's such an important issue as a form of disagree with your call. so uh, should i come through a solution which would be uh, ideally, consensual or close to this because this is something that can be imposed by majority to minority, for example, is a vote in the general assembly. this is too important and this will never work if

it is the case. and there comes some diversions to that version says on the representation. for example, it all shot and some other countries clearly saying that the rest is over representative. and i think that the recent situation that we just talked about discussion waves in the, in the us live am using clearly shows this, the western countries, they use blog discipline and the defect to block uh, security costs are from discussing the issues that they don't want to discuss, they have these kids on the beach, so sometimes united states and its allies, they don't need to devote against dense. this doesn't count as a veto power because because um we simply do not have enough votes to proud to remo. the decision will definitely want, so the west is already presented. where else are the international or arena? they're all over the west is declining. best way to clear out the voices of

a african agent. ways in the american countries of sounding louder and louder and they are not held in the security council in the way they should be sure. and just finally on the, i hope i don't part of phrase you wrongly but, but earlier you're saying that if you don't have an understanding of the past, you're doing to repeat the mistakes in the future. not if we go, if we look at certain things in the recent past, the past 100 years or so, you've got the san francisco conference in 1945 famously annual at the post world war 2 order of international relations. the most to summit in 1989, the us and the soviet union, the current, the end of the cold war, essentially paving the way for a unique port of world order. know that the world is again going through a huge change. the next lunmark peace conference, b is world offering. it. is there it is there a bill? it's that you for that to happen on where could that happen? well, it's difficult to speak about it at this stage because we are not there yet. i think

that at this stage the west is still trying to print and that's uh, nothing is happening. that's uh the world is not changing in the way it is changing and they are trying to, to greet the grass. that's their waiting position in the world. but this is the process that we will negatively come to the point where then you then you will, will emerge the multiple world. and we will of course, have to discuss of the foundations of this world. by the way, i could say maybe some people will not agree with me about the un i'm going to be and shouldn't be very helpful in these exercise because the chapter of the i'm is the basis for international law and you're on the is in itself. it's the, the cornerstone of multi polarity is the question of interpretation. not the fact that the, for example, the charts that needs to be corrected seen in the so that way it's not necessarily so. so why don't you have there when we could discuss the next conference where it

should take place and make some traveling arrangements for these so far the way to so it's very is step stubborn. it doesn't once dialogue, it still has some folks to inflict to my country strategic defeats or at least a week. and it's significantly, but it's quite obvious from what we see in reality. that's um, this is a really wishful thinking. i'll follow with some neighbors and they will inevitably come to the understanding that we should talk. we should speak about the root cause is not, that's what happens in 2022 as they are for them that this is the uh, the only thing that we can discuss and what we should discuss a lot of things, including gus, lot of you including needs are in large amounts including the uncapped promises of uh, what's the latest to the, to the saga time, the address and leaders of the staff, a lot of issues that should be very frank discussion and we are ready for these. we

already, we all was cold for the west engagement side discussion. you know, that we made the proposal proposals on european security and in the, in late to 1021 which with understandingly rejected by the us and by need. so there are a lot of things to be discussed on that. i'm sure we will find a time in place provided the west uh, takes away, so rosie glosses and looks at the reality, which is quite green for some countries right now. well, thank you for having a dialogue with our tea. you've been more than good with your time today, sir. we've been speaking to rest as deputy and foster to the united nations. dimitri pol against a good to see you. the

there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case for the madness of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals, which let me let me on. you have a very quick propaganda. you know a price here in new york. i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask a better. the answer is will be the new one. and then we'll jump in in a little more than what they should of the unit 731 was a unique organization in the history of the world. what they were trying to do was

to simply do nothing short and build the most powerful and most deadly biological weapons program that the world had every now through you know, to production with it. so i guess it was the great deal to bring it suddenly with as little as you keep on month to modify this new new new one of our from new i'm i got the sale of that. i don't understand. i voice enough about doing so need. i know you gave him some more or less than a cheerio. tied up with this kind of them. why the i don't know a party bill. can you come up? push the couch. nice. oh boy, that's good to go with the oh,

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