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destiny falling on the 19th night of the fasting, most of the time of on the occasion sees most of them coming together in mosques and strides to take part in congregational rituals. the plan until the break of dawn for ronnie is there is no place more sacred to spend this night then at the trying of amber's b, h e, a. m, a located in the northeastern city of mesh at just the early days of hamilton. the city has been bustling with millions of tow groups of flock from across the country to seek blessings on this perch, what location to as muslims. we believe that on the night of destiny, god determines our fate for the year ahead. it's described in the koran is more important than a 1000 months. therefore, we have gathered here at the mom, raise a shrine to appeal to god, to decree our destiny in the most favorable manner. the night of destiny holds great significance for us. it is a night when many of our sins are forgiven, bringing solace and peace as we data to pray at the mom reza shrine. by reciting the kron and special prayers on this night,
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we seek god's forgiveness for our wrong doings. will sometimes believe that light little guy was the night when the 1st versus of the holy koran will reveal to the prophet mohammed for the angel gabriel. the revelation of the koran continued over a period of 23 years. the koran says that the angels defend to earth on this night listen to the prayers of the faithful chevrolet advocate on the knights of destiny . god seeks to bless us human beings. he wants to shower us with his mercy. so we spend this night praying to god and supplication seeking closeness to him and asking for everything we desire. the problem with the aspect of the rituals is the collective presentation of a prayer that invokes god, but he's 1001 attributes. as mentioned in his law, each representing a different fans with infiniti. thousands of pilgrims simultaneously placed the car run under hats, reciting the prayer in unison. 757. the night of destiny is a special and significant knight for us, as it provides us with the opportunity to seek forgiveness for the sins we have
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committed through the year and ask for god's blessings and mercy by invoking his 1001 names. it is a time for introspection, repentance, and seeking forgiveness from god. while the exec data of the night of destiny remains on specified, muslims believe that labor to god falls on one of the number of nights in the last 10 days, a frame of on the 27th night being the most probable one. however, there's also a tradition suggesting it could fall on any of the last and nights and there on the 19th 21st and 23rd nights are the most common lea observed. it seems like this can be seen a lot more across the night of the i didn't get an extra layer of for to, for the past few months of these people will stay on the night, the prayer and reflection on to the break of dawn, seeking to clarify, their souls assign was for to the, on the scoring during the summer ross for total capital much
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$44.00 when next year in archie option talks to international affairs professor at harvard university, steven wald, it's about why he's called russia's military operation and you've prayed for hope going against the grain of the main stream western north. it's on whether he's faced by flash for that independent living on the problem gets going in the the mr. plug into you're most welcome to the program or thank you. so once again,
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our discussion of this security council on nato is actions and you can slow here, they've been blocked. why are western powers in your views so reluctant to, to even reflect on that episode of their military intervention? i think they, they are afraid. they, i free the tools that will come out. they don't want the world to least some once again to the details of a that's a horrible military campaign and totally unlawful new to the campaign of the conduct it's against against yugoslavia. but they also don't want us to highlights the responsibility of their leaders at the time of need to leaders. that's why they want to, to shut the miles off. so everybody, they, i'm not interested in this, but in reality we 1st ask before the, before this meeting on monday and differentiate, presenting to you for using proceed. procedural uh, rooms is locked. uh, i will be,
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but in reality, we stopped at every meeting of the security council during this week with highlighting these procedural, russo follow a french colleagues and the 14th of the votes of the agenda of the meeting. and we also squeezed the phrase or 2 about nato's aggression. i guess you guys live here. so instead of having one meeting on monday, just heard they actually had the whole week. it's worth pointing on it as well, isn't it? that russia simply requested a discussion regarding the nato bombing a, not the adoption of any kind of formal resolution on the mouth or something as basic as that on the 1st real significant down there for history. all of the bombing 25 years on it's an important date. it was their opposition from a specific countries you mention france, there was, it wasn't one reason do think a certain reason or where there are various reasons why i those countries did not why there was so such opposition to having
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a discussion of the debate. this is something that's uh, usually not happening uh the, the un and the security council because there is an article uh, number 2 of the provisional rules of procedural security council. which implies that the current president of the council calls a meeting up on the request of any council member. usually these equals some kind of freedom of speech and freedom of expression. and nobody questions such beats. but in these and this time at this time, we really looks like we really have ships, the nerve of our western colleagues, especially the french calling. there is nothing extra ordinary, not request. and we said that's the consequences of nato aggression. i felt until this date and actually uh all the uh, problems that we have on the ball comes specifically in the relations between
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serbia and it seems like a little box costs of a. we're also triggered by need to address them. we can say that this is right there elements, we can say that this is a historic fact only. there are a lot of historic situations on the agenda of the call. so that's a mets or even today. how can we discuss me the east, for example, without discussing the consequences of the last of the 9273, or 9 to 6 to 7 or even 1948. it's absolutely impossible. so this is ridiculous. and the last of all to yesterday, there were a 6 countries altogether. and actually it was a clear divide between the west, some countries on longer with some countries and the security council. so the west countries, the rest of the countries, they acted in line with the block discipline, and they supported each other. but it was absolutely clear that their way behind these attempt to impose the sounds issued in security to council, which is a very difficult to conceal from, from world public. yeah, there are 15 countries,
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5 permanent members. so we got just below the threshold without, without the 2nd number, the 6, if we adopt these very, promote is french logic. them of put in order to hold a meeting, we should have got a 9 volts for the meeting. so we will have a short sale, zeroed shorts of these 9 volts, but according to our logic, as french questions, not the agenda items that we used about the meeting itself. they should have uh, they should have updates uh 9 volts, but the president uh japan. also blaine's was like bleed into the hands of uh, west some countries for obvious reasons. and so that she didn't want to formulate the question maybe in the right way. that's happened sometimes. unfortunately, i'm just curious across some people in serbia just to pick up and something you said people in the country who survived the, the 78 days of nato bombing. and then, of course, the aftermath were many more people died. and they said we will never forgive,
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and we will never forget. but you think that you and you've mentioned some of the countries involved, that the western powers that took part wish that they could for a guest thought it was just essentially put under the rug. exactly, that was behind their reasoning, french and best of the planes. that's uh survey. it was not aware of the fact of the meeting so rational didn't consult with serbia. and this was the belief and flight because so that was very much interested in the holding these meeting up to everything. prime minister, even. so that's just a case specifically to new york to be brought to this meeting and run the friendship presented. he was thinking she was teaching him default listening to his baseless gleams that serbia was not the way of freshman requests. so actually, to a survey who was even more interested to spell that through the spell out the truth about what has happened then to remind the consequences of this aggression. i still felt this do felt by people leaving their hands. we had to reverse the whole mind,
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very thankful for their readiness to participate on these reverse whereabouts to explain in detail what are the consequences for certain population medical, illogical infrastructure. what time are that? i felt even right now uh 25 years after these migrations. so these would have been a very, very important discussions. and of course you gave our western colleagues hold seats and they wanted to avoid that as any price. and that's why the really uh, stakes the for the ability and there they all sorted to the council asking for these need to agree to the procedural votes and trying to conceal the fact that they were kind of questioning the effect of the meeting and not the item on the edge and the reason was very shameful and pathetic to which there may be people are watching, sir, wondering why 255 years old. and of course the anniversary is so significant this
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week. but why the offense of what happened in you, then you can slow, i'll be a why are they so important? know for russia that they are important not only for us, and they are important for the whole world. and we see that there are still open the bones in the ball comes, not only is serbia, but elsewhere. and especially when we speak about the relations between billed rate increase to now there are a lot of the full outs. that's really a sense of us as a sensitive premium right now in serbia and around and so the cost of us already is defining international community. i define security council resolutions. the relevance of 1st and foremost, foremost, $1244.00 recently were shows that the elementary assembly of the council of europe recommended the mission of course, of all uh to the council, which is
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a clear violation of resolution 1244. so all these things are happening because of a need to aggression. it goes to gus lobby because of the fact that the national war was absolutely devastated on the rates by west some countries they bypassed security council. the moments the this to the trash a china will not support such an action. uh some uh, some scholars believe that this was a turning points in the whole system of international relations because this was kind of different uh, the freezing or for the free for the freezing of the contradictions that have frozen off to the cold war. so it was kind of a resurrection of, of, of cold was looking for and i think that there are a lot of reasons for that. so we, we believe that these precedents are when the night so of luck attacked an
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independent country and actually seized about to get started today. and them declared the independent clause, the independent states. they are, am always imposing on everybody to recognize these states. this is likely a precedent when the post war, the post cold war system was chapter and the helsinki act was chapters at this moment. and of course, the west doesn't want to acknowledge it. they, they say that it doesn't matter very much. they are now referring to the ones that have them in 2022, but they are absolutely authentic in trying to conceal the truth about this aggression and its role in international relations and the, the role of woods fall out and that the national relations yeah, you raise a lot of fab big topics there. i'll return to something a little bit later if i can, but just returning to 1999. what was your assessment?
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what is your assessment of russia's stance on the nato bombing campaign of thought? time on? has most schools position shifted at all over the years since then? well, that was the turning point. i remember it's quite well. i was already a young people and much in the foreign service. and the very many people remember as well. that's uh there was these famous, so you turn over the atlantic by the russian by the russian federal government. so you're getting your pre michael was going to washington to sign. so it's in agreements about financial assistance from the states and the international money into the funds. so what that i don't remember exactly about people that decision. i'm going to learn to about the aggression to make a u turn and get it turns out to moscow. this all was a very symbolic. and so i think that was the rights move to make because it was absolutely clear at this point. that's the only problem is this of the west. all the, all the hopes that there will be a fair international system built up to the dissolution of the soviet union out
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that, that the west will keep the problem is that where you want to solve, you attend the rational leaders at that moment. all these hopes are absolutely useless and baseless the west is having its own agenda and implies these, these time. and that is implies a doing away with you guys live in serbia who knows what will be next time. so the moods right them where kind of a shock, because people really where hoping that this going out, this would never happen. that way hoping that where there were some openings and relations between the russian, the west. they were hoping that the, the 30 minutes of the cold war has gone forever. but the west with his actions prove otherwise and we are where we are. i think that a lot of things that are happening to the also read back to these very unfortunate
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to the criminal decision by anybody needs to lead us just to point out what the russian leader has said subsequently, invalid were put in stating at the bombing of belgrade was a turning point for most of itself on one of the defining moments between east and west since the cold war a do you agree that it was a significant? how's that? it's absolutely, absolutely. i would like to say that. so this is a, this is a ethics ethics of, of these time and the ethics of international relations. and of course, this is a benchmark the hallmark that we all remember and this will forever stay in our memory no matter how old the west tries to. to come see, we attempt to put it in the shades, they will never succeed in doing so. the western refusal to discuss the events come shortly after serbian president alexandra boot church warren, that quote difficult days lie ahead for his country. what do you think he meant by
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that? well, i may be mistaken, but it looks like she was mentioning this decision. that's the reference to the decision of 11th or assembly on the council of europe to meet the customer as an independent states. this is of course, total violation of international law for us to give it to counsel resolution, absolute lawlessness basis. it'd be placed on the example of these rules based international order that the us and its allies promoting, where they are formulating the rules and they are asking and demanding that all this of each of these rules. it says nothing to do with international. and you mentioned costs of aware earlier, the self proclaimed authorities, there are how they choose most good trying to use the issue of the nato bombing. it'd be pissed lobby as some sort of justification for what is now happening in ukraine. how would you respond to that as well? is difficult for me to comment what sort was on their minds?
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i think they'd better think about how to manage the problems that they have. great, it's in relations between christian and bell. great. we recently discussed in the secuity call, so of the issue of the banning of the circulation of serve and dina, in the northern parts of, of crossover. which means the life of tolerable for thought for certain population of these, of these area. there are a lot of other things that's cost of lead has promised to build right in the framework of the brussels discussions under the close of the european union. but the gaps, no single problem. the problem is out of this and things are further being complicates in spite of these, uh, the prospect of, of course. so uh, being admitted to the council of europe. this up to so again, friends to formulate their reaction. but this is that something disgusting. frankly, what the west is doing in these so called solicitation. so i think that the cost of,
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of the fact i started to distribute to think about this events and lots of mentions, something else happening in the other. but, you know, you can solve an ukraine, have both become focal points in the re shipping on orders in europe. however, while the west was quick to back, the self proclaimed independence of the cost of a rapidly quick. i remember when that happened, it's refused to recognize russia's re unification to try me on more recently for new regions. can i get your, your, why such an inconsistent approach to this? it just seems to be an opposite different levels as well. these are absolutely shameful. the blades and double standards. we discussed this issue repeatedly with the rest of the colleagues, but they pretend to be absolutely deaf blind them. now, when we raised these issues, we, for example, points out to them that you know,
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the costs of the independence was brooklyn's by the problem. whereas the decision on cry me or was they can as a result of for different brands. and so if you speak about democratic procedures to them, they were absolutely observed in case of, of russia, but they were absolutely disregard as in case of costs a. so of course these are, these are believed on the double standards. so this is the, the cornerstone of these, um, a double stand that sound to the policy of rules based international order. that's the west is trying to impose. i think this is all because for everybody, for every unbiased scroll up for every unbiased diploma is absolutely clear or what has happened. impossible. and what are the for a lot, what does that fall out of? it's on all of us. if i can turn away from the yeah, you can stop the underbrush tree for a moment or 2 and talk about the un security council itself. so to what extent is
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it still relevant able to fully function when it comes to conflicts like a train on gaza? some critics say it's turning into another league of nations which became the funds they had of the 2nd world war. how does the time come to reform the u. n. s. c, and what sort of changes are needed there in your if you? well, frankly, i don't think that the skillets across the security council is irrelevant. and the, i don't think that there's a price comparison between the u. m. and the legal of nations. the big difference is of the existence of, of the permanent members of the security council who have the right to veto. this is a very important function which x actually should be viewed as the key incentive to find and negotiate a solution. and that's how it usually works. for example, recently
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a restaurant china to use the veto when you yes, table to resolution, which was uh, actually the green light for the 0 to continue what it does in gaza. which reference to the ceasefire, which was actually the main demands of the international community. only it has determined determines the imperative of immediacy is fine. so i really failed to understand what is it determines to imperative and how it could have been implemented practically. so when he told these draft, and immediately after that there was another draft prepared by a non permanent members of the security council, which demanded ceasefire. and these dropped was adopted. the bulk of the situation was on the edge of the security cause those where there are no deep differences among the 5 permanent members. and so they are, the council is very efficient to forget the council works together. i specifically
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have in mind for example, african issues or like columbia or some other crisis situation so. so these 2 issues, they are very important. they are very loud, but they do not represent the bulk of their gender or disagreements. because the counsel of course needs to be reformed. everybody agrees that it's needs to be formed, but the positions of the country is a very different of everybody. for example, acknowledges that's a security council. it should be the compositional disagree with your council should reflect the situation in the world and that's there should be in the correctional. if you started injustice was the effort come continental issues numerous and we sure it presents a lot of items on the agenda of security council. so everybody's in favor of adding a african members to the security council. same about different translates in america, but uh they are, there is also understanding that's such an important issue as
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a form of disagree with your call. so uh should i come through a solution which would be. busy ideally consensual or close to this because this is something that can be imposed by a majority to minority, for example, is a vote in the general assembly. this is too important and this will never work if it is the case. and there comes some diversions to that version says on the presentation, for example, restaurant and some other countries. clearly saying that the rest is over representative. and i think that the recent situation that we just talked about discussion waves in the, in the us live am using clearly shows this, the western countries, they use blog discipline and the defect to block uh, security costs are from discussing the issues that they don't want to discuss, they have these kids on the beach, so sometimes united states and its allies, they don't need to devote against. hence this doesn't count as a veto power because because um,
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we simply do not have enough votes to proud to remo good decisions, definitely want. so the west is already presented various of the international or arena, you know, they're all over the west is declining. best way to clear out the voices of the african agent ways in the american countries of sounding louder and louder and they are not codes. and the security council in the way they should be killed. and just finally on the i hope i don't part of phrase you wrongly but, but earlier you're saying that if you don't have an understanding of the past, you're doing to repeat the mistakes in the future. not if we go, if we look at certain things in the recent past, the past 100 years or so, you've got the san francisco conference in 1945 famously leading out the post world war 2 order of international relations the most to summit in 1989, the us and the soviet union, the current, the end of the cold war, essentially paving the way for a unique port of world order. know that the world is, again, going through
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a huge change. the net lunmark peace conference b as world offering it is there. is there a bill it to you for that to happen on where could that happen? well, it's difficult to speak about it at this stage because we're not there yet. i think that at this stage the west is still trying to break down. so that's uh, nothing is happening. that's uh the world is not changing in the way it is changing and they are trying to, to greet the grass. it's their waiting position in the world. but this is the process that we, we negatively come to the point where then you, then, you will, will emerge the multiple world. and we will, of course, have to discuss of the foundations of this world. by the way, i could say maybe some people will not agree with me about the un. i'm going to be, i shouldn't be very helpful in these exercise because the chapter of the i'm is the basis for international law as you're on the is in itself. it's the,
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the cornerstone of multi polarity is the question of interpretation. not the fact that the, for example, the charts that needs to be corrected in the, in the. so that way it's not necessarily so, so why don't you have there when we could discuss the next conference where it should take place and make some traveling arrangements for these so far the way to so it's better is step stubborn. it doesn't want to dialect it still has some folks to inflict to my country strategic defeats or at least the we can, it's significantly, but it's quite obvious from what we see in reality. that's um, this is a really wishful thinking. i'll follow with some neighbors and they will inevitably come to the understanding that we should talk. we should speak about the root cause is not that's what happens in 2022 as they pretend that this is the uh,
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the only thing that we can discuss and what we should discuss. a lot of things including yugoslavia including needs are in large amounts including the uncapped promises of uh, what's the latest to, to the saga time the address and lead us at least a lot of issues that should be very frank discussion and we are ready for these we already, we all was cold for the west engagement side discussion. you know, that we made the proposal proposals on european security and in the late to 1021, which with understandingly rejected by the us and by need. so there are a lot of things to be discussed on that. i'm sure we will find a time in place provided the west uh, takes away, so rosie glosses and looks at the reality, which is quite green for some cancers right now. well, thank you for having a dialogue with our tea. you've been more than good with your time today, sir. we've been speaking to rest as deputy and foster to the united nations. dimitri pol against a good to see you. the
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the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also absurd. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing press for so the funder line likes to say we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals to work. so let me, let me on that. you have very quick propaganda. you know a price here in your i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not
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allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions ask a better. the answer is, will be the 5 people are killed during an a delivery effort. and does that coming as the is really pm cents is top security official safety tip? think it's hard for negotiations with how much policy means on their supporters, worldwide commemorates. so pro long day the deadline, 1976 protests against these really, amex ational depaula spending an online polls spread ceasefire of an end to the idea of the killing of civilians. solid industries hit the message to is what and they not that sense of i'm going to get that piece of the time to
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