element in the central asian nation, i'm kind of fun with which russia has close ties, the international space, there's is mainly collaboration of us and russian crews. some people are currently on board. the whole between laboratory at 3 from vice to 3 from the us and one from gemini megs is an exclusive interview with little baker and bill, the new and in the needs in government. the fund is all they seem to me about is countries time just in the coming year will be back at the top of the the thank you so much, 55 liaison for your time for as r t. and let's just get into our conversation. so the general election commission has finally officially announced that, but i boss of young though, and he brand black. i mean at archive is the president and vice president elect. so

from your point of view, as one of the founders of bible was political party getting that and also as a nation lawmaker, what are the challenges that the new administration will have to face? oh, thank you very much for having me. i've been kind of davis is my 1st time actually being interviewed by asi shar play. sure. yeah. the most difficult challenz, in my opinion, is to continue going to make growth while maximizing the advantages to the indonesian people. and aside from that, we must anticipate the economic and financial sectors because there will be the most affected by the global on uncertainty and which may remain in an issue. the creates that believe these are that the

economy can function. so therefore, um we are optimistic and indeed uh we one rate and then on working with all of parties in indonesia to build the country better. yeah, of course we have the foundation that it's been already established by the previous government present. president elect double has to be entered, chose china as the 1st foreign countries that he fits that, that so during this meet uh for said with chinese presidents each in being as well. what are the goals off this visit, and how do you see be the outcome of this fist that will be for

indonesia and china relations? well, as stated by problems will be on the minister of the fans and also the president elect during uh, the visit and he's meeting with president of june being the receive uh on the line, indonesia determination to maintain strong collaboration with china. i think he said that during the dinner during the meeting and particularly in industrial and in the last lecture sectors, we know that china is one of the indonesia is most significant partners. and so i believe uh, it's only reasonable that china has become one of the top countries, the reset and the reset is expected to help improve violet. the relation between our 2 friendly countries here. i

think uh it says the very significant uh reset by i see them like 5 level. now if we talk about the security of the in the past, the effect by b j considers you as interference to be the main cost off turbulence in the region. from your point of view. what's in a new shows view on this matter? well uh, 1st and foremost, as it comes to the with the free and active foreign policy, we naturally see a secure and peaceful in the past civic region, strategy environment for indonesia to try and to grow. as a result, we prefer cooperation with

a more inclusive approach that well comes everyone through dialogue, mutual respect and understanding of international law rather than rightfully and competition. so this is clearly stated in the asi, i'll look for the in the past, if it and i've called and said real boys by indonesia, that as soon as to become the perspective of us, young member states, indonesia is the world uh, 16 largest economy now and the 3rd largest democracy in the world. so our population makes up more than 40 percent of the overall i see on population. that means that indonesia is a new economic power and its price and size,

implication for original and global economic structures. so as a middle power, indonesia has similar power and liability to join the bricks. and if this happens, it through undoubtedly enhance the new nation economy and also open up several prospect. however, the extent to which indonesia will join the brakes still a consideration for us. so both in terms of economic gains and political issues and it is prudent for us to anticipate what the future may hold. so, but i believe that the, it is style so low from non

a lion approach to what the alignment approach now is already different color from bipolar b. paula, so mostly for indonesia is the 4th most populous country in the world with a robust economy. we also know that we are aiming for the gold in generation in 2045 to and do you see any here as a leader in the global south as the world experiences the shift towards multi polarity of the global? well, it's undoubtedly that indonesia is consistently forcing the interest of the global solid in international air and not as we did in the past during the 1st independence era. so internet show was the pioneer of the asia, africa congress in 1955 and resulting in desktop

steel bundle or the bundle and spirit rates later become the speed ation to the establishment of the non aligned movement in 1961. and at that time, indonesia left the global south struggle against imperialism, colonialism, and western occupation. so indonesia was also the founding member of us yon suddenly after 1967. and now indonesia is a member of g 20. the 3rd larger, largest democracy in the world. one of the most promising me the power countries. and what i wanted to emphasize is that indonesia is uh, still committed to play

a fire football role in creating global piece. so global piece, uh, security p and for us padded be so hands, i'm very determined to express of the museum that indonesia and has and will always uh, show significantly the shape in the global house. now we're going to talk about election, but not in an asian election. we are going to talk about russian presidential election. well, i think indonesia, in russia as a very long standing are relations since the so if you have time. so given indonesia and russia as a long history of this throne relation, i believe this is a very welcoming and kind of jing, uh get your right example or president put them on a delay. i see them like, yeah,

but i will. and this also demonstrates the 2 countries i intention to develop my lead through the nation under trouble is the government. so like weisner also we are on way too late, but i sit in within 4 is are these out in the election with land slide $63.00. i would like to begin with appreciation through the federal assembly of the russian federation and sent the election permission for opportunity to be part of the intonation of separation of the russian presidential election. so it is indeed a reflex and this is for the 2nd time i written this, the presidential election, the 1st time was 99. the 6 during the election. and the candidate at a time was brought to the sales team and to gonna, uh, and uh for this election i think for candidates. so the election of silver program

is an important event that allows us to learn from one another and share best practices and explore democratic practices. the 3 different methods of casting votes. yeah. which i used by b. now i, which i then it's a at my manually by checking the options of develop paper and electronically by using the device provided. so these 3 ways and another one is online which can be done uh from anywhere without having to go to the following station. so this 3 uh, options have demonstrated a strong, a willingness to hinder fraud. i think. so through the use of technology indicating

a more democratic improvement. and furthermore, i believe that the russian people are actually made it to do fling political inclinations as evidenced by transparent voting boxes, which i saw. yeah. uh, feet that, uh, the sensors that directly counted uh ballots. and this demonstrates the majority of democracy in russia. so overall, my findings indicate that the any country can develop its own electro system customized to its own needs. and democracy can continue to evolve in accordance with its countries. unique circumstances. that's uh, i think over all my findings. yeah. and you had

a pleasure visit, as well as always in russia, of course. yeah. so, so not long after the election completed the west crash, a, b, b e. election to criticize the election and calling it on democracy. take an unfair . so from your point of view, why do you think such allegations were made towards russian election? well, i cannot the command on their behalf. yeah. and am sure, unsure of the basis of such charges. however, i believe it is important that we recognize that democracy may grow in response to each country's particular needs and circumstances. and i think so far, uh, i witness the process of democracy in russia. we did turn

off so many people and also with the transparency in the pulling station proof that they have breakfast, a democratic election. we also know not long after the election. there's a recent terror attack in moscow that really shocked the world, especially not long after the election and prompting several countries to ramp up there and type her is precautions. so how has in a nation i responded to the news of this tragedy? well, i was in moscow almost a week here before the effect of good and i was there to participate this in on the international observation for the president selection of our presidents of election. so it was i'm very

logically startled and troubled by the harder for effect on civilians in public spaces. because before the election, even a night before the election, we also in the room in the big room like parts of hall to watch also the performances of, uh, the best things and then things of russian culture. so of course, on behalf of the house of representatives of 35 bits of indonesia and the information people i send my profile was on the lenses to the russian people following the how does it affects on the progress uh, city hall. and which claim many lives more than $100.00. yes. and our helpful seems to be also extend to the insured and

uh, really uh be uh, families. so following the incident in moscow in the nation government through the golden anything, then you serve on politics, law and human rights, as directed rather fund ministries, particularly security forces to boost domestic vigilance, which i believe is a natural reaction. but most importantly, i believe in donations were surprise and sudden to learn about the fact we all hope that the salaries responsible for such a genius effect to be arrested quickly. and it's been arrested, i think, by the or thought if these and uh, so be stopped. so because of course, uh, this, this, uh, really disturbing and it's

a tragedy most go is also looking into as it ends off for in special services. taking part in this attack. so do you think this period is justified? well, i promised that the russian should probably before see is real swiftly and cover the preferred trait. there's all of these areas scaling, no matter where they come from. and whoever is the responsible must be for stick with it. yeah. and also is beside behind, this is a fact. so i believe a spill in under an investigation. so now we will back talking about the media and rush our relationship. there are a lot of people who shared the opinion that the relationship that both countries have right now is solely because the relationship that has built during soviet

indonesian era to what extent do you agree on this opinion? well indeed i think, uh, we cannot deny their historical throughs that by letter nation suited between indonesia and russia of the game during the soviet union era. and it's basically in 1945 since the beginning of our independence. and at the time, the soviet union was one of the countries that wealth come indonesia, independence, and id, condemn, all types of colonialism. and, uh, he goes fighting for indonesian independence side support and, uh, a, from the soviet union. at the united nation,

u. n. the soviet union regularly highlighted the uh, the issue of indonesia and the west thing that the u. n. stopped that you're gonna need 3 of the nation and for the international community to recognize indonesia as an independent hunting. so i think this is a static effect on a historical capital for the foundation of our, uh, long lasting relation between the 2 countries. so along with the global political bands, there have been ups and downs in relation between indonesia and russia. but i believe there we will continue to assign them in the near future and also in the future. if we are taking back to these days, what modern day projects between the 2 countries that play an important role in strengthening the cooperation and in your point of view,

how can we escalate that relationship? well, uh, indonesia, a share of globalization has been wired successful in variety, or feels by the friends and, and location corporation spam out. yeah, i hope that the corporation between the 2 feels will continue to grow in the future . however, i believe it is also interesting. those that the, the prospect of corporation in the field of renewable energy, for example, and they're not, they've energy and also particularly nuclear and energy, interesting point that even the show have to open up towards russia. yeah. now, um there's just id release to buy envelope an indonesian company that monitor social networks. and the study found that the majority of indonesian users expressed

support for the russian special military or pre should also citing a negative attitudes toward nieto and the u. s. so what's your take on this study, and why do you think in a nation's half this kind of opinion? i do believe that indonesian citizens are knowledgeable about the issue and above the thing. objectively the study by the big data analytics uh half a lawyer has shown a clear public opinion on the ground. however, i have to clarify that the finding uh does not of the prison dispense of indonesian authority in the nation consistently versus the floss on democracy will be allowed to release them and dialogue

to and conflict. and those fairly these and of course we really continue to critically diag just many uh various information or issues, including little bit of that a piece in your brain and gaza and many other places in the context of the russia ukraine conflict introduced as clearly stated that week consistently support the perfection of san antonio. integrity and soften empty. so yeah, diplomacy and dialogue. so it would be at the forefront to find sustainable solutions . so i believe still the end of war. uh, should be, i mean, uh at the end you know, diplomacy and negotiation. so it'd be there. so we are parole to this diplomacy

and negotiation at the end to find a more sustainable and permanent solution about this. finally, i am part of the ip you task force in the fall them into the union task force on russia, ukraine conflict. and we push it to both parties from russian solomon uh, on this case, represented by the federal funds to uh, and also by duma. and also the ukrainian problem, and actually we try to find a more sustainable uh, peaceful solution uh through dialogue. i think this ip taskbar is the only platform that still exist. it can be a platform for engagement from both parties. so i think

in any show, want us to have a piece in there that they told me because it also affects uh for security the energy security. nope. leo safety. indonesia has consistently force the need to respect the un charter and international law, including what respect in $3030.00 or integrity and suffering fee. however, we also committed to multilateral exams and diplomacy do and conflict and hostilities. so hands, i do believe that you need a lab throw sanctions. the word russia are not only in a factor and was the other way around, but also unable to find a clear path for sustainable peace. so secondly,

i would assert that indonesia also firmly complies with the fundamental principle of independence. an active part of the policy which had been uh, called meant that uh since 1948. so it means that indonesia, i was wondering, policy cannot be fully or partially align with any countries, any blocks or, and the world power in this respect indonesia as mean thing, possibly safe relations read last year. since it is off, you have your so likewise, indonesia also has become a good friend of your brain since their independence in 1991. so our friendship has deeply repeated our foreign policy history actually see that last year the nation

for administer called for reform of the you and the security consul emphasizing the need for a multilateral system. so what do you make of the debate surrounding this issue? the security consult efficiency? yes, of course, the issue of the advocacy and efficiency of the un security because it has become our close of pension. we are all right uh supporters of the u. n. system. and we put this from trust in the color and we'll fill out the role of the system. however, we believe that the u. n is included because of the form is extremely needed to avoid further product. wireless is with you guys through the please take those situation. suggesting guys, uh, i think uh to create a piece in palestine. so for those serious steps,

need to be taken immediately. first. oh congress. my us, you live and have their same interest to create sustainable peace in gaza and palestine as a whole by working together taking complete actions and mobilizing resources to lead out of this adversity. and 2nd, western countries must pop their double spammed. it a double send the perspectives that percent as you and he felt basic so attitude towards palestine and completely stopped providing politics so late. the important make supports israel authority. so then we must also raise you negotiations to create an independent palestinian state and upset palestine to

become a full member of the united nations. and in this case, indonesia will of course, continue to provide politico support model support for police speed in independence . and the security of the policy, me and people, so in the nation actually continue to gather support for palestinian peace through various forums including had the problem and 3 level. so in this last 2 i view assembly sessions with example. we have always mobilize this thing of the global vitamin by football, shooting and emergency item 2, and is that i was attacked on guys to stop the war and also the violation of human rights. and guys, i initiated through this last time in one that in on roller lots of silver. and

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