and that's more and more you citizens might just start electing tend to dates that are more pro peace talks in negotiations. and you know, with an economic crisis in the u on top of that internal and domestic issues on the rise, it's very probable that sooner or later that you will have to make a choice. and that choice is either uh, settled indigo, shooting table with moscow and talk about the conflict or tape on spending more and more money on your brain and spending more money on your plate that is only fueling or that ukraine is now losing. and also award that could potentially escalate into something even worse. and my colleagues in the email is shar and nicky are in earlier. all right, it is sunday. so that means we must be do a visit to the world's apart studio. so let's do just that sound is up. next, they close the

pool and welcome to wells a part of the mark twain famously a remark that history and doesn't repeat a sound part of it often ryan's and it's not the circumstances or the actors of any particular conflict that the get 3 constellation. but the rather the spirit of the problem with south state and resolved parts of it as they are pan continent is once again stricken with better divisions and kinetic warfare. does history offer any ideas point moving forward? to discuss that i'm now enjoying by little, by splost my left wing, slovaks,

politician and deputy speaker on the slide. i can parliament mr. bloss. uh, it's a great on a great pleasure to talk to you. thank you very much for your time. thank you very much. for the invitation. now mr boss, us la k is a relatively small country, but it's also been a pretty powerful voice. again, the mainstream consensus of that is for now, or at least in favor, often times to find the war with russia. and you've been a quite a strong optis within that voice. why did your take this sounds the, to talk on the conflict in the ukraine on this thing? your position has any impact whatsoever in the face of the ears pro war unit to where's the fall? oh, yeah, he's right by peaceful nation, and we really respect to the sacrifice. so for us on russian nation in deliberating, causing the 2nd the role of altering faces. and so we are very thankful and grateful to russia. and this is something we should be heavy,

not our hearts. i mean us lubbock, nation of course. so you can see that the flow of our nation is uh how the variety those are population which is very much influenced by the liberal around us. and we can bro, bye down dying only. so and you know, media in zeros and then you have the 2nd part of the population. fortunately, now we have the majority and be wanting to elections. i mean, the brian, any certainly robust these all. and we want to be, so we've been to have a piece, we don't want to send the bi funds to the grain. we don't want to have the expansion of nato because we see this as a cost of these warning ukraine. so this is our stance. it's very similar, right for body c. s. of course. why the be our points we designed by of all of us and bach knows about the v b being the freedom of speech and the sort of idea of nations. so i hope that we can still continue in our peaceful bodies. now i, i very much like the way you frame based warning,

one of your articles you wrote that it's wrong that to slavic nations are it's war that american arms companies are making money from it. and it's hard to disagree with that. it's definitely wrong, but it's also the reality and to some extent, it's a paradox that go reality because on the one hand, 4 or 5 years ago, i wouldn't be able to imagine something like this happening in the up. if we go further back down into history, it's almost seems kind of possible. it doesn't seem so unlikely after all. and i wonder how do you see this concept proceed as i'm inexplicable or do you think quite the con, read that it was to some extent predictable that it would have happened? i'm sure this is another conflict between the ukrainian nation and the russian nation. these, the conflict, especially between american and the russia and every kind of rough side. so its, of course, the west against the russian federation. everybody skin scene is because if you didn't, would be golfing between ukraine and russia. ukraine wouldn't be lost in

a few weeks. we don't want this call police which can disclose to the ground floor . i think only the people without any common sense then continue to escalate to these calls me that. that's why we are designing our emory gun and that you will be in boxes because we are in the right time because we are and you will be the 4 piece, the ones who have good dialogue and good relations on the beast. on the log on to solve on the west, all the, all the arts. so i don't think that our, our positions are gays to you being, you know, does the, was of the common sense either you'll be in union and i'm going to be hungry for example box. but also you have to know to a country like all 3 of us who we do reach out, he's not sending the weapons us as v or not. so i don't think that this is something unpredictable. and i hope that the, the people have ukraine,

either restaurants, either or ukrainians. lots of going to die forever. i hope that the piece of the army space can be here in few miles in order to establish conditions for lasting peace. we also need to understand the dynamics, the only deepest dynamics of this war, not just the current or political layer, but you know what, what is underneath them, as you have already alluded, uh, there is the memory of the 2nd world war. so my case self suffered greatly from fascism. i you have your own paula. cause at that time your own very strong anti no . after resistant movements, and i wonder how much is that a softer in it, not just a public pull with x today, but in how ordinary people see and relate both to the current politics on to russian the west. yes, we see in the way i see that there is a way of racist. there was a phobia,

very similar to the thirty's and forty's in the european history, and it was the time of fascism. amazing, some. that's why we are very focused with this trends. you kind of blamed the russian nation as it is before the seen the this is something which is opposite. what we faced. that's y v. a. remember a how it was in the 2nd of all the rolled and we even if you man, but it almost bonded each task from your brain about doing the in the east. in slovakia i've never killing the people that the robert robert of the village in slovakia. um probably uh everybody in the role can remember a void in my sucker. and so want to had received as a binder our associate each ox celebrate the to in the ukraine. we kind of being silent. i can, can i actually ask you about that? because the west often accuses the russia of exploiting the memory and the trauma of world war 2 for it's on

a so retiring aims while at the same time being absolutely a believe is to be a fact. so that, i mean you're saying that this will back and people remember the corners of the war . but for some reason the west doesn't remember. and it's very insensitive to say the least about the forming alliances with far right. the new a fascist worth is in ukraine and elsewhere. how do you explain it is an ignorance as a deluxe of historical map, memories, or perhaps a marriage of convenience or even a conscious ideological on lines. it is a heap of course, it is a simple question. it's the dog far less than the thinking in this barrier. for example, you my country in slovakia, when you say the face east, the establishment during the 2nd world war because we had to be so facing the corporation by germany. you'll hear people say that this is something those you will be both acute need to buy the bodies, of course, because you are supporting faces. by the way, you understanding boundaries that seem you probably all you are but the ordering

dirty here. they're both of these in ukraine. you're here, all the media and will deliver all this because you are the sad that you break. and this is simple, crazy about. i can say you from history that the, when the member on each side was the best and you will be in countries in the 2nd of all the world. you can see that here in germany was nancy germany. he thought he was specially, it's either it's about joe and another and then was of them be able to know compared to being in a few days that had frauds, you know, a few weeks, 3 space and the to the weapons to nice to germany. and so on, so you can continue it, but in this way and you see that the sacrifice overhead and the, the sacrifice overestimation of belongs nation human to ukraine. nation was so high, so high for me. and so i know millions of people and you know, invest them countries to, it looks like this. so that's why it's

a different memory for 2nd world war because respect is a nice little x as a, as especially some nation. the really remember this. now why don't we say fascism, you know, they say i'm worth provokes a lot of emotional reaction. it has a lot of political connotations. but what's underneath it is actually, you know, a belief system that presupposes that certain people are above other people. what's allowed to you is not allowed to me. you're allowed to suffer, and i'm allowed to teach you how to sort of know to be a bar berryanne. and this is not just a historical moment. i mean, it's more polish these days, but the west still, you know, claims that the right to be um, you know, uh, the shining beacon of a wisdom for all the nations. what couldn't be done in practical terms with this kind of ideology because, sorry, it's not always expressed, expresses itself as fascism but it's still very much problem. don't the global

stage. and many of the wars we, you know, they won't have seen them with the past couple of decades. ultimately, it could be, you know, brought down to that very principal, that's we as a nation, know what's best for you and we are going to invade and kill and enter use all other means to make sure that all well prevails over yours. well, there is a kind of superiority complex in the west and be so liberal or no new brutal idle g reflects this is a kind of built auditory on the delta g or both all utilities because it hasn't the respect to the diversity of the oil to doesn't respect the culture, this doesn't respect other nations. the people who are all in the west to tell you, okay, you have for example, alter the scar to it. you have to, i'm also going to have the also check out. you have a bunch of couple of heavy use because you need to be a very, very human rights to freedom has to be honest, ended in the best you will need to have the same democrats, the s v. and so,

so it's a kind of a mental cooling the, all these things. and this is something to be the need to refuse because we need to be need to respect all the counselors, all the nations into all i told say to the chinese that you want to have the homosexual amenities. because in brussels to be one to have to almost like so met or just this is kind of a ridiculous. and that's why i really believe and a freedom i really, really believe in diversity ends a respect to the other nations. i don't need to be a fan of russia. i don't need to be a fan of china, our fennel 70 or i'd be i'd that respect their culture. and this is something we to many people in the best stop to respect. this is a very, a big sailor on the best of civilization, but i think the roads are for these. you don't in the history of the but now um, going back just like in his current position. it's a landlocked country, bordered by poland to the north ukraine. to the east, from going to the south and austria to the west. the also have a tablet,

a check republic on the northwest. easily hostilities for whatever reason spelled beyond the ukrainian horse theatre into europe. you may find yourself right in the midst of it. do you think you're a current neighbor membership and nature will protect here because i'm in the you express a very it was sympathetic. i'm very, to hearing the very a ration l stands. but if worst comes to worst will in the secure. um, you know, a good position for yourself. well, our national interest is to avoid the war of any kind. this is for sure. that's why we are saying that we need to stop the war on the train. didn't even need to have a dialogue with russia in the day to go to relations with the russian federation. of course, we are the father of the european union and the nato, but we already agreed to go to the wars of nato. for example, in yuba slide the or in libya this why b r my piece of gold and vc also because of the warranty ukraine in these expansion

of nato. this is for sure, because the seen us from russia was very clear. we don't want to pay the you, brian in the adults, and they don't want it to expand. and the full address i'll be coming to the borders of united states. it was due on the stage and don't realize we were coming to the board as the director. so this is for sure you are to that would be from the opinions in, for example and guardianship. i mean, because there is a very right to being the checking government denial, but still the, brought up a little slow of i can check the nations. i mean, the normal people is still there. we have a very was go next ones to be the hungry. we are in many, many positions, so as you know, to austria, which is now to accomplish so i don't think the exception of the board by the board and in the rush. i mean it's uh the, the, the story i think that needs to be for started by the doctor's life, turned about makes slovakia hungry all throughout. then the slip any uh then the

grace. uh, so it'd be a lot of our, the very peaceful agents in the us. and so i hope that the functions gonna be valuable on. okay, well, uh for the time being and mr. possibly have to take a very short break, but we will be back to the discussion in just a few moments. stay tuned. the, [000:00:00;00] the magenta itself, the gaining independence and from the form of the ivory coast remained under the strong influence of its full metropolitan pro french president. phoenix who said one year ruled the country for 33 years, ensuring the interest to from the dead. the gun on painting isn't in the trunk.

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a bloody conflict. watch on odd. see the welcome back towards the park. it's best to move us, blah, blah, a left wing slovak politician and the page of speaker on the so i can parliament mr . blossom before the break. he said that uh some i care as well as hungry as well as auster of peaceful of nations. and i think that's true. but if you're still a part of a 2 large blocks that are quite a nickel to my country at this point of time, and this is a major security dilemma for russia at the moment, because most, most certainly doesn't want to explore, expand this conflict to europe. but here are people, countries keep you link prolonging funding and by supplying the weapons to your grant. and i know that's why market, for example, doesn't do that. but the, your, you know, the countries that are associated with doing that,

france and germany some others. and they're doing that's without any consequences to themselves, believing that they can defeat the russia for almost a distance without any harm to them. any military commander will tell you that this assumption needs to be shot. are they in order to bring all the ward dynamics and all the participants into they open? do you think leaders in here of understand how dangerous has been can that they are choosing to play for now? and how do you feel about it that you may be in the thick of a hell of all the kinetic fighting through no fault of your own? i don't know. desire for your own as well. yes, you are true that the leaders into european union today are very many times and this kind of communities and should be refused. but also we can see the new ways off when you thinking, of course, it's not in every country and they'll tell you in every government,

but you will see the funded you from ukraine. i would say like this in the european union. and for example, in germany, you have to box the a b, which is already successful into both. so you have to box your room, you see select band in france, which is very successful, or mr. ok, my showing on the left was waiting for it to go through. these are pretty all the stuff science is all for western leaders and the elections in june in the european union on to the european parliament and may be the parties of the politicians was very critical to these of the expansion of nato, to these war and ukraine. and to this, uh mean it's organization of you the european policies. i think this, this box, these can be very successful and these can change the positions of all your be leaders. and i hope that this will be the truth. now you mentioned some shifts and european public opinion, but there, there's also been a major shift in the ukranian strategy. ukraine is now openly approving off

and sometimes the resorting to terrorist tactics and for now these tactics are a, primarily at the russia and the russian citizens. but we know from history, that fundamental is terrorist almost always turn against that own pain masters. we know that happens with outside and americans that happened to some extent with the chance in europe. do you think it's possible with the ukrainians? do you think they can, at one point become a security threat, not just for russia, but for the european union to? well terrorism, these are the colon and i me and this is something we do really, to really stress the direct is that i don't most go we to started. well, i asked them to be of close to the fuse it and uh we need to each other of the come on come on. yeah. and so the restaurants of its chinese meet everybody in the world . i guess they'll reason. and when i see that, so sometimes you know when the ukrainians, for example, bought the 3 man the bridge, it was

a terrorist as it ended up the new as it was like, oh, i love the west and he does what? well think like this is ok if this is most ok and i hope that us as it is with the mail, matthews and spacious, i mean you train the army as it is in the mix. there isn't being in kind of any, any caught up the was we need to be very basic. uh, very, pretty simple. and sometimes i see a lot of people crazy in the way this volume. i have very difficult to read, but the 2 days that it'd be nice to find stories and in every corner of the world. and maybe when you got to think about this. so i will start. so although you will be a thinking, may need to speak about the does that most across the of by use right now. and when we see that the, you'll be leaders are very, very hesitating to come down. but he's ro, assets, the massacres, even some of the people he knew about the nation. so according to this, so these must, that goes to jo side. and the southern maybe see the european or american leaders

like say, oh, it's the, the rise of these roads to, to the children i need to delta. and then they say, is most arrives to overall shop to defend their interests. as regards the expansion of nato, your tribes, this is again, double stand on people policy. and if you need to refuse it, you mentioned the terrorist attack on concert goers, goers outside moscow, which claimed, at this point of time, 144 lives with another 551 people injure them. so here in russia speculated then this attack was and not so much at ordinary people or social stability in the russian. but i present it in put in part personal useful base. prior to that, how secure is another presidential term and who believes strongly a national security. this is one of the reasons here, authorize the military operation and your plan, but clearly he like no other late or can guarantee security 100 percent. what do you think about and do you think they hate for us to put on

a strong and have to justify in some enlightened circles, farming many innocent people to deliver a blow to him personally? well, we need to wait for the investigation. i don't want to make any statements which are not the, you know, i'm, i'm not asking you about the, there's concrete the time, but i'm asking whether do you think be caved for it for poor 10 would, may lead some people to, you know, approve of decisions they otherwise would know the approval. yes, there is a kind of fun updates on every side. and this is somebody dangerous. that's why we, we are calling for peace because every walton created these kinds of hates. we didn't something to write it down the limits, but still i am, uh, i want to stress the other problem because when we are talking about this done resuming, most go outside the most go. uh, you see the problem off. um, i would say is lennox terrorism, which is very concrete also in your opinion. yeah. and uh,

do you have the big problem with migration in slow, what the ice? well, the want to stop this must thing migration because it's very dangerous. if this i'm a fan, it takes from some worse than countries are coming to our, our countries and doing the best things. and that's why we are trying to say to you to be leaders. let's take more money and give it to the so of both extra on the border of the to be before it is a migration, but the giving the ukrainians, those those of a $1000000.00 and sofa of money off of yours, but not on the so professional board or not all these fight against the school a know mediation, this is a big news that excuse me, very sweet stuff for you. you know, that's why i think the beginning to concentrate on the issues of migration on the issues of growth. excellent. why don't people on the issues of social rights, of other people and the least on that. but v, i mean i, you will be leaders. i believe it's the, the,

it came up. they want to only how do you claim and they want to only help the majority companies and these meetings are a complex and this is a very, very, very, very big mistake. not now, mr. boss. or you just mentioned a couple of issues that i usually make up, the so called pay patriotic agenda. you know, um, minding leaving standards, being preoccupied with domestic issues, wanting to preserve some semblance of social stability and dressing, migration, conscientiously and consciously. you know, siding is a fax on the, you know, indigenous societies and making sure that you actually care about social harmony that you do then is smart then and diligence way. um, you know, leaders, cooper. sir. these kind of politics are very easily handled by the way, also care about national security. the these kind of leaders are very easily labeled as a ideal logs, as demagogues as to tell a terry. and i'm put in is one example,

but obviously the prime minister of your own country, a role birth fits. so the also gets a fair share of those accusations just as he has the gary and con counterpart to victor, oregon. and i wonder, what are you seeing benefits from propagating this association between authentic patriotism and patriotism that doesn't want to take other countries resources but just wants to define its own interest can get some benefit from you know, presenting it in such a non just uh you know darn, but uh, ultimately very harmful and very dangerous way. well, i would say that these are very funny, these things that would be just very popular in the west. the do today as you are saying on the one side, the way it is. now you brought the advisors who will be leaving the west and have your morning and on the other side and everybody else. if you had 5 by 2, i think um for his i'm signed to mind. see if you ever last being or i'm p. now the

products, uh ceilings and the ideas you are the strictest. you are to tell me, tell you it is a said you are even visual ed. they are using the stone in slovakia and you are meant you're welcome to remind you to have any right. so you, you don't have your troops, you just need to follow these mail people who are doable as i do about i think the agenda piece of a venture of this. that's the target is of course different book on the tardy and no narrative as it was before, but we are using the down liberal faces because of course he believes in my face isn't done before i go with this. but today, today's nowadays we're all or know even off our blame you, i like to let specialist, they don't respect other than the other obedience. they will do basic, you know, criminalize people for that will be the ups. these were something is the key of the usual 3 years ago on the these 3 years where we had the rights being no any but all the government, even me as a person, as a body shop,

was persecute even by the police. so therefore use because i respect the single awful red army, it's a red star. re siegel and the hammer. and i will spare secuity by dick's trim east . i will see them persecute as extremities because i rolled up the book. they both take about up or i have to go over all the so i think the book about the need and they say all this is extremities. you just need to hit, you're going to just have to 8 on you just need to pay the rest of everybody. because baseball, you want to remember the period of time in history. when there was only $12.00 l, it was phase. she's a rock. when i go he said this is only one truth and i think that in a euro, which is based on diversity, the freedom of speech and beauty for renaissance and beauty, false enlightenment 30th. so that we, we are in such a devastating barry of the dock times even that times maybe i've just brought

everything the other opinions. this is something to beach every sleep person need to be very, very disappointed with mr boss or we have to live in there. but thank you very much for joining us today that go to match. so let's leave the base. thanks and thank you for watching post to syria again on the wells of part the the, the, the, the,

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