just the effect of the rebels, and that's, that's, that explains, in fact why the red bows. got so, so much a weapons and so fast because complete regiments in battalions from the ukraine, unami just defected, pseudo rabbits. and based on that, the ukrainian government us can i to, to assist in a kind of restrictive string of the armed forces and improve the goal. so all the matters of it turned out, displaying and all that. and i was involved in that, and therefore i had the opportunity to watch the, the conflict from within the ukraine at that stage. and what, what the, what a dot point, what to what surprised me. what's the difference? we good notice between what i could see in the field and what the western media are reported. and in fact, we have, we had a totally different picture as the what,

what was happening in, in ukraine, by the way, all the protests that happened off the 23rd of february 2014. nobody talked about this in the west. uh and, and in fact, you directed strongly the whole security within ukraine and the whole relationship between ukraine and the, the, the, i mean, you're creating a new t, f and the difference of loss of, of, of, of ukraine. and you will have the dying crypto naziism, uh, in terms of uh, anti russian culture that was occurring even back. then, of course, we saw a much more under the lensky. as you know, the go in 2014 was in fact engineered by a very small, full amount of individuals. that's where is each of those. in fact, those extreme right, we could go to our national, these groups which some have named neo nazi, some well known as the older or the recipient or tradition noticed. but in any case,

this was a very small group. the, the majority of the, especially government forces you had a lot of people were just consecrating, fucking, there was a conscription army at the time and a lot of individuals. in fact, we're not so keen in supporting the government because this was the, the new government that emerged from the mac. the euro may done. and you, as it became known that this new govern trust has, was not elected. and, and all the, this the, the russian part or direct. yes, the russian part of ukraine didn't accept the, the changes that were led to by the deeds this new, good uninterrupted government. and in fact you had when i was there in, uh, september 2014. that's the time when the rebels is declared to date your directly because nobody to see a and in fact you had popular republics,

not just in the don't boss, but also, you know, they saw it nipple with drugs. it had a song you had popular republic, that's where in fact i created. well they, they didn't stay very long because the repression was very hard. and because the ukraine army couldn't manage that because of the presence of russian speaking soldiers. that's the reason why the government started to recruit or military forces and those permitted free forces where in fact of tradition of these, with the same guys who did the, the, the by done a prize, i think in fact, mean the 2nd stage of the pricing and those guys were sent to me, the repression in the south of the country, and that became extremely violent. and in fact, you had the, in the south, i mean though they saw, said a saw a neighbor, but drugs could this,

you had really mess checkers and, and, and kind of of all the hot a trade union building famously. but just the actually, that's the, exactly you, a quick jump to today, because uh, yeah, i mean, to your attention is that, is that lensky is facing. if we just leave aside the $61000000000.00 number that's being thrown around, they do a nation valuable propaganda media at that. so let's get in terms of getting the soldiers together. people in the south as well as the east still one to serve. and people in the west of ukraine, even well, even around kim, wouldn't as of, as it lensky led to the army for the next. what have been hex to the us proxy has in school? well, in fact, what's happened is that since last year, i mean especially off to the failure of the cancer offensive in 20 to 23. what still had is that you had a division within the forces. you had a navy,

you had the patrol illusion a who became a investigator in the u. k. by the way. and you had the general seamless seal ski who became the were replaced in fact that was neat as head of the armed forces. and between the 2, you have a fundamental difference in the, in the approach of the defense of the country. in general, is that those me, here's a little bit more russian, if you want a nice way of waging war, he's probably more interested in having more, more by the welfare and using operational arts in the, in the wait in defending it was to mo, bile operations was this is on the same line as the lensky and he was to defend every single square inch of the country. and this is, this is where you'll have the, the big problem either into ukrainian army because the russians never strive to try

to get terry 3. the purpose of the, the, the russians in, in the intervening in, in ukraine is basically to destroy the threats to the population on don't boss. that's exactly what led to get put in said the 21st of february 2022. and in fact, that's exactly what the russians are doing. so the russians are not trying to gain territory. they're just trying to destroy a potential. and therefore, the id of defending every square inch of the territory inside plays into the strategy of the, of the russians. because the russians, they just, they, they just destroyed potential. these are the visuals, they destroy equipment. the destroyed a weaponry, they destroyed everything. they don't, they don't needs to have be advanced and big arose on the map. this is not the,

the idea. but just in terms of these actions, you're not things that i ask is a russian spy presumably, but then oh, on the on developments right now though there have been attacks on is that for read your react? uh, in the past few days the i yeah. so even that, to make us arrest statement saying, the old of western europe wasn't about to be destroyed by boys and this radioactive gas. presumably, i'm not sure what the he meant. but you know, you make the terrifying observation in your new booklet. these high mas, kamikaze drones from the united states, the britain stones from britain, and the firing is monitored by these native nations. does that mean that they know the targets like that for reason or the targets in elder all the civilians it'd been happening in the past few days. well that's, that's exactly what to this is that to my observation, in fact, off shows the, the phil said that that's the, the rates and the french where in fact, assisting ukrainians in targeting and, and, and making those uh,

the cruise me sizes, especially the sort of try those and the scarlet me, so i'm besides which are in fact the same me so i but one is the british one, the french one. but in fact, the, the western western military is assisting in targeting a for the those besides the that you rush or through frightening of responding given that we heard from boots in the if there with nato troops and said you in ukraine they would be a response we know that well from the leaks phone cool in germany that the british troops that i'm not sure we would organize illusion the what his role is. we have with the intelligence services and m, i 6 in london as russia just too frightening, of attacking the source of those who are talking weapons at belgrade. and in moscow i don't think so. i think you're a very small groups of individuals who are not talking about huge battalions and things like that. you have just a few experts. so that's that,

that's just the so it's probably, i have no idea. i don't know if the russians know where those guys are and where they are able to to, in fact, the target them. but if, if they would, they would able to do so. the russian would certainly do so. in fact, in january or early february 5, you're not wrong. the, the russians targeted a hotel, you know, how to cough, which was a full of a french soldiers. and in fact, probably even personnel, west sisters for the, the handling and maintenance of the enter across to me size. that's what i delivered by france to ukraine. so in fact, the versus i looked afraid at all as soon as they was detect them, that will destroy them. so that's, that's what, that's for sure. now the issue of that footage, as you mentioned, the problem is that, okay, the kind of will have to get back to the nuclear reactor. i'll stop you. the more from the author of operational acts of flooded the defeat of the vanquished and the

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at the end of one as you were talking about, you know, what could be the in the west and your body could be this week. it could have happened this operation, nuclear plant and the nato and weaponry that went to attack it in the past few days . well if frank, this is not the 1st time to recreate and try to, to attack this uh, this power plant. and the purpose of that is just to, to, to provoke, they do your opinions to defeating the conflict. in fact, this has been a constant trial policy or strategy of the ukraine. and since the beginning of the, of the war, in fact, trying to have a kind of a no fly zone or some kind of intervention from nato eden. ukraine. and, and now this is exactly what the repeating, what have done last year and the year before, the just trying to provoke the intervention of the, of the western armies. the idea would be to create some kind of, uh,

a demilitarized zone around the, the, around the power plant or something like that. that would, in fact, present a movement from the, from the ukraine side. that's the idea. and they, they have done that, as i said in the past, so they would probably try again this year, this year. i'm the, that's the, don't the study of and it's clear from, you know, lloyd austin, the boss of the pentagon with cancer when they will, from the pentagon, recently, he was testifying, begging for money and congress this week. clear that it isn't even about ukraine. he's honestly talking about how the $61000000000.00 is more about the rejuvenation of the weapons industry in the united states in the industrial base that is about anything to do with ukraine. why do you think the john, let's don't ask about if it really is so important for us security, boring the money into ukraine or weaponry into grain?

the, the why is it, why are they outlawed us troops going to help the ukrainians as well? i think it has never been about to crane, and in fact, the 1st strategy regarding you created a new fact. let's try to get describes exactly what we have seen in the last 2 years. was written in 2019 by the rand corporation. that's outlined a strategy with 6 points. that's this, that's in fact, i'll tell you exactly what we have seen to also. and the purpose of that strategy was not to help you create it also to instrumental eyes, ukraine, you know, to, to weaponized ukraine. if you want to, we can russia, and if it is less confirmed a few days ago by uh, by joseph brand, the head of the, uh, the final phase of the european union. who said that this construct is not because we love ukraine. it's the, it's because we want to support the us interest. so it's, it's amazing that even

a very high ranking guffy show of the european union confessed that it was about, about just supporting us interest, by the way, in the rank operation, the report or strategy the night or 2019 that's it is explicitly right, right. the that's applying or implementing the strategy would close to ukraine. huge loss of territories, huge losses in personnel, and will force ukraine into a disadvantages piece. so we knew from 2019 that's implementing the strategy would, would lead ukraine to look at this real fee. now that again, the purpose of the whole thing was to we can rec shop. why do we can rush out? because at the, the, the, the, the, the, the, let's say,

the center of gravity i would say of the us strategy is in fact china. and the problem is that they, they wanted to present russia to be a strong supports to china. and therefore, they had to weaken a russia days, even in the state department. there is an initiative. and you had us in the last 2 years, 3 years, you had at least 7 in 7 international conferences about this. it's about the so called the, so a so called this, the cut on these i did go to nice, think russia, it's about dismantling growth, shop and creating out of russia about between 18 and 32 countries based on the new city of the different republics. and in fact, to 2 completely dismantled russia as the state. and again, the, one of the conference they've been happened last year in processing the breast and

spot him in the bottom of the building. so we have talking about something which is actually the official which is on the website to of the state department by the way . so, but it hasn't worked out very well. okay. because trying to rush or close it together . we don't match it. ok. i've had the opportunity to happen, but you mentioned the rand corporation people can watch on monday. we have a modem to help or a new wrote the rand documents that will leak by down ellsberg for end of the show, the late then those work that helps stop the vietnam war. alas, only after a few 1000000 it'd been killed. why is it that when you talk about the rand corporation daily explaining what the ukraine proxy, what it was all about? it's in the public view, and yet the war is unstoppable. can we about the fatality ration desertion rates? why is it that when you quote the rand corporation and information on like the vietnam, or it doesn't stuff this, this catastrophic well for the grading and people tomorrow as well. in fact, even the rank corporation has written several separate reports recently stay is

saying that in fact, there is no point to continuing to swore the problem is not, no, we are in the, you know, problem of a face, a face saving and both in united states and in europe and, and, and don't are understood and i estimate europe in fact, so many sanctions for as an example many sections that's where applied to russia. where in fact, made by the, by the, by do your opinions against the advice of the americans. like, for instance, the sanctions about the old pro or products or even of hosting a rush out from the swift system. this was a, it was a dry ice by the americans not to do that, but the you pins decided to do it. so no we, we, we, we all know we in a, in a kind of, of a sparrow if you want. and nobody has the courage to stop it. and the we are and it

is kind of of, uh uh yes, it is a spiritual violence, not the violence, not yet, but the europeans are in fact engaging to that to listen to what the micro said. i mean the ease, right? p 2 sense troops, and even if its own population is against that, you don't think that's gonna happen though, right? i don't see any. you don't think that's good. well, that's a, i'm not sure it will happen. but you know, the problem is that it's so you rational, it's almost impossible to say whether it will or will not, not happen because we are no longer in a kind of rush. or if the decision making in the west was, was the rational. we would have stopped that last year. in fact, you know, you can have it for clearly as the book makes p a how they completely misunderstand the proxy war and what russians responses to they through nation policy. why is it the nature of power is a so convinced?

maybe it's just western european ones that against the advice of washington that say the ministry defense and building in london or the big count deposited in paris . what would be taken out by potomac miss out from russia? because the united because russian, the russian federation needs to make a point and say, look, just cut it off. now we've had enough of this. well, i'm not sure exactly what to, to what just continue appropriation like as you said, macro, announcing the deployment of 2000 or the 1000 now french foreign legion to ukraine in defiance of what of the kremlin and the duma has been saying, i why are they so convinced that rush, who will not respond to any of these nato countries and tests that so called optical 5 as well. optical size is said is, is property and excluded upfront from that declaration. by the way, because if, if france, for instance, sense troops, it's not based on the natal treaty,

but the on button to buy electric retreating, which in fact doesn't based on the washington treaty. so in fact and, and, and the americans have, have said they would not send troops on the ground and probably they would try to avoid that. especially because they are in a presidential election year. and therefore it was, it was probably be not to be very wise to start a new war to engage the us actively in a war. and this started this period. so the, the, the americans don't want to do that. the, i think the, the problem and the concern i have is that the, the recent didn't drawing toilets a communication between france and, and u. k, especially with david cameron, a trying to have kind of a joints type of activity in ukraine. you know, if in, in an effort to provoke the u. s. to intervene. that's, that's, is that what?

because they could, that could lead to a situation where the americans had no choice but to intervene. how you doing things like that. exactly. you know the bite and actually once this uh 61000000000 to go through it would it would help him because as defeat approach as well, a deposit can then say it was the republicans fault that we lost another war after i've got to send syria. libby or of iraq and yeah, i'm and then who knows what i, where else i think biden would like to have those 61000000000 a for you credit. first of all, just emotionally, because i think this conflict for biden is, is just a question of emotion. there is no nice thing, nothing brushing all into. but the problem comes probably from other parts, including within the state department. because they're, they're all different opinions about this and apparently even, even we,

we didn't the, the state department. so i'm individuals would like to stop the whole thing because he doesn't bring it in. and by the way, even depending on apparently, would probably not to be unhappy if, if this would stop because everybody sees the discount effect is going up. so you know where it's probably it's just reinforcing russia. they just an additional embarrassment for the president in fact, but the problem is that, again, well, i come back on this point. we are not witnessing a rational decision making in the west, and especially certainly not at the level of biden. and even at a, to my call, i'm even camera or on the property, and we'll shut off on the allow you and, and also the so called new your up. i'm talking about the baltic states and the boat and where you have people who are so enraged against russia, that in fact,

whatever happens that would be happy as long as you times directions. and that's a, that's a, a kind of a desperate situation that we have, which is, in fact concerning because i come from the strategic asians background and my own working culture, if you won't, is that decision making should be rational. and based on the factor lanai says when what's going on on the ground. but what we have seen there in the last 2 years in, in the ukraine, shows that in fact, no decision was really based on a factor in analysis on the ground weight with just as it was based on assumptions . and even on a totally false narrative. i mean, a, wait, wait for 2 years we, we kept saying that the russians were losing the war. they had no immunization done . no thanks anymore. the add port commanders did, the soldiers didn't want to fight, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah. and today we are exactly and the opposite situation. well, just say that russia is about to attack the rest of europe as more weapons and the rest of europe as more besides than the rest of you and so on and so forth. so we are in the total contradiction with all sense and that in fact, nothing that we have heard in denied to you the last 2 years was based on any evidence. it was just based on even assumptions. kind of would love to talk about that like so far. the other book uh, hopefully when does this east wind garza uh soon, but uh kind of jack both. thank you. a thank you. thank you very much. thank you for having the thank you and that's it. for the show continued condolences to those very by you k u. s. u, i'm bombing in palestine 11 and m and syria and iraq. the new books operational acts up loud, the defeat of the bank for sure, and the russian. a lot of war, how the west that ukraine defeats arrived. now we'll be back on monday with the us official who worked for obama clinton nixon,

johnson and kennedy administrations. until then keep in touch, why will i social media if it's nonsense of your country? and i draw a channel going on, they were on tv, hon dot com. don't you know that besides of going underground see you monday. the what is part of the, the employee would post good isn't the defense you of us and that in the word part, is it something deeper, more complex might be present there? let's stop without pieces. let's go out of is known in vietnam, the american war,

the vietnam war lost its almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries. not any time between now and then you don't see it now. wow. it's all on the empty . hundreds of thousands of american troops was sent to the country to bank the south vietnamese on me. i got that not meant to supply the american soldiers limited resistors. most of us like the down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals. and li bye. all right. did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did on the, via the means? veterans ready to forgive? yeah, yeah. yeah, that's that way. it's too late. but yeah,

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