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trade, single pores interest is in maintaining peace and stability in one of the world's busiest waterways, which is what the south china sea is. is us arrows commentator nelson long says the us keeps waiting into a far away region instead of minding its own business to us. it is always trying to poke the nose into affairs of our region, despite the repeated at warning from china that all disputes should be solved amicably from friendly negotiations among the countries in the region, the u. s. as far apart and then not parts of this region. so of course, i mean they, that the, they're everywhere they try to, to pose that knows at every way around a while to, to correct some trouble. let's don't forget that when president macos 1st came into power, and he went to the us for a state to visit. and i believe quite clearly,
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and i remember quite clearly he said that the state when he opened up 4 or 5 uh on the basis military basis for the us. uh, he said quite clearly that they were not supposed to be used to uh, to, to facilitate anything against the china. but now, quite recently, he said, quite to the country. you said yes, they are against china. so that's quite bothering actually, and i believe chinese government has now made it very clear and the position is very firm to stay with our, to international up next on cross top with the balance of power in the middle east and slots. lavelle and his guests discuss how the excess of resistance is challenging as well. and as western patrons by the
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the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to the cross stock, were all things are considered on peter live out. the balance of power in the middle east is influx. israel no longer has its volunteer to turn supremacy what is called the access of resistance is challenging. israel and importantly, it's western patrons. the cross talk in the middle east, on joining by my guess, wilmer leo and in washington. he is a political scientist author and a radio talk show host in new york. we have line on he is
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a legal and media analyst and in mar, say we crossed in freddy's on tom t as an independent journalist and a contributor at 21st century wire. quite so many cross black roads and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate of wilmer and may go to you 1st in washington, you know, you could say the word change, but you know what is changing. everything is changing is something we've never seen in our lifetime, as i talked about is real supremacy in the middle east is very much being challenged right now. but the, the biggest change that i see going on here is, and we make when we look at the iran's retaliatory strike for israel's attack on it's console it in damascus. is it israel could only defend itself with the help with the help and assistance of the united states, the u. k. in france. that is a very interesting thing because it is real survival based on how much assistance it can get from the west. and is that good for the west?
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go ahead and in washington of israel survival is totally dependent upon the west, from a number of strict perspectives, not only militarily and financially, but ideologically, as well. and the, uh what, what uh, what a ron has demonstrated is that the design is this ology of a supremacy superior already. and the ability to protect the citizens of israel is now been proven to be nothing but a missed. and, and that is really rattling the psyche of, of not only because when you look at a lot of these ray least, they have dual citizenship. they are fleeing, they are flying in a country like a sinking raft. and what a rod has now demonstrated, not only to israel, but to the united states, is we can strike you when we want to, where we want to. and you can't do a thing about it. well, you know,
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it's interesting, you know, because this is, we're going into kind of a, a sense of um, perpetual complex here line or mike johnson, the speaker of the house. he said in the last new cycle, but he is a, a war time speaker. what war is he referring to and that anyone vote for it? lionel, no one can figure out what he's even talking about. and the other day, which was the most towing marjorie taylor green, who say what you want. often said things that makes you say, oh, she said, has he is he being blackmailed to be? who is there something about when republicans take that position, i must say gentleman, the closer to home. what is also frightening to me is how the college campus, which used to be this, this bastion, this, this intersection, this,
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this marketplace a free ideas, crazy during the vietnam war, columbia. we're actually having people that are the, would it be pissy or plenty about it. but it's not anti semitism. what is anti? so mendez's and we're the, the, the semantics people we actually are having a college president's come up and explain. are you allowing somebody to think this violence is one thing? absolutely. but what i'm hearing is, are you allowing someone to sink this kind of taking a break so it might just be happening. where are the civil libertarians generally? the, the, the, the, the, the, the liberals and that the berkeley freeze. facebook who says, wait a minute, free speech is not condition upon the subject matter is conditioned upon the idea. so not only when this is all over, we're going to have this cancer that is metastasized within our system. and,
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and i don't know if there's any treatment for it. well, you know, a, freddy, a is. this is kind of an extension of what line always saying here is that, you know, we've seen that is realistic. streamline, vulnerable right now. but it also means that the united states is very vulnerable because if this, this phrase, iron clad commitment to israel, that means the united states is committing to get into, to fight is rails wars. is that a very good idea of, certainly from before, not the united states, but for the entire region and for the global economy here, do the americans understand that what they're signing up for, particularly from what we understand the, the, the costs that israel had to pay and, and it's western patrons on the, on the nights of the radian retaliation was $1300000000.00. can they do that night after night after night? go ahead and mark a, i'm sure it's a computer. yes. of course. this is
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a very tricky situation. i think the united states got itself in a little bit of a people to be honest review on my analysis of this, the radius strike and deposits of patients of the united states in disbanding israel as shown and different aspects of this conflict. and also perhaps different reason why the united states intervene. so it's very important frontier to really analyze that you understand that was the united states actually just defending each route all. so what are you trying to protect basically make sure the entire defense and air, besides defense system, and these, for out what not being such a rated, i think in the united state to some extent. and was trying to avoid an embarrassment because we are defending an it's a military industrial complex. yeah. and i think that the billions of dollars that
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i've been spend, india decided an expense in israel is almost a, a, a pilot project for the well to see that i'm, i don't see anyone in the united states without want to have a public embarrassment. so i think it was interesting proceed and moving into the iraqi a space and deploying a complete defense operation with a refuting anchors allowing basically, you know, to diminish that possibility. the said differently. i absolutely agree with you, is that not only was israel's air defenses tested america is, was being tested. that's what you're getting out here. you know, right, wilma, you said something very interesting here. so, you know, we have to make a differentiation. i'm good because i'm glad we have line here because he's not for semantics here, but you know, you know, what we see is the defense of israel. that's the narrative. but no, that's not true. this is defense of a zion. this to project, we have to keep separating these 2 things out. go ahead in washington. well, that, that,
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that for as much as the is really lobby wants to conflate judaism and zionism. and to say that to be anti israel is anti semitic. no, no, no. this is not a issue about judaism, this is not an issue about jews. this is an issue about zionists, and what people need to understand is not all zion is to jews, and not all jews are resided. joe biden has told us very clearly and folks, you can look this up. i am a zion, it's, and that is a very well more of a. do you think it's the most us don't you think he's been trips to? because he thinks it's pro israel. that's what you know, i think you brought it up. we were all brought up to make them the same synonymous, and they're not go ahead, you're about to say something very important and i interrupted, go ahead. well, i've always understood them to be different. it was always made very clear to me
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that those 2, we're not, we're not the same, but this is a zionist settler colonial project. and there are many that believe that as goals is real, sol goes the rest of the audiology and the settler colonial projects. and that's why so many in the united states or so staunchly committed to this project. and as we see as, as with south africa, this is now coming to a close. yeah. you know, line or they, one of the things that's very interesting. if you look at the reactions to it, to israel's assault on iran's consulate in damascus, and then the retaliation here, what we're getting from western capital's is just utter nonsense. i mean, it is bald, faced lives the way they're interpreting it. and this is dangerous because this is what they're telling the public said is real one. know israel's in big trouble. and
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sowards patrons basically who's controlling this narrative, lionel. as a lawyer, i hear a little bit about the notion of provocation, self defense in violation of territory. trespass, and i, it's, it's absolutely us down me how nobody will ever even say, even in the preparatory side. no. now i recognize the fact that, yes, under international law, the attack on a consulate or embassy is indeed considered an act of war. our, you know, or it's just just even pay lip service to it just, i know this may seem other incandescent bits like it never happened. i don't want to bring this completely derail this incredibly important conversation. but it, i called at the k middleton phenomena. we just stopped talking about it next. what i did get to do don't, don't talk about just keep talking. we will talk as though this never happened. we're, we're just going to,
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if we remove and just set this incredible portion. now remember, if i were to take this scenario, if i could go back in time and say, let me ask you, if country a did this to country b and country c, but what would you think? and as the rest of the world, what they would think, believe me. no, but the whole point in line and let me go to freddy here. lionel is absolutely right with his analogy, but there is always be exception. meaning the israel doesn't have to observe international law in the, in the west, a protecting israel doesn't either freddy to well, absolutely. and in relation to your questions with who controls the narrative, i'll say, terry, we need to dig a dyslexia beach said that when we talk about the width of need. yeah. community to west and medias are controlled by the globe, the least, the near console, the a little lead power clubs. but we cannot do united 5 to these realize
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a great deal of influence into western media. please be surely to in france and in europe. a so we can expect the narrative to bro, to be pros, readiness such and why end us out seeing goes for i choose that as best 20 years in europe. and i'm sure that united states is a really nice again. but i think there is also some, some curious as far as to understand what the media is doing and how they're treating just information. and we've seen that over the last bus 34 months, literally slowly abandoning the, basically the con, 16 gaz. okay. i'm ready. i have to jump in here, i have to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on the changing middle each day with our team, the are my little sister store because the model girl that i got you. no problem saying it all out of the know nothing 30 minutes us out in the drive i showed my brother through he was trying to sell people for
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a lo so now i never looked at searches as being saved. well i guess i lost my list. that's the outcome of chicago police. it'd be gang chicago is like, can you get a photo of that police, you lose your life as another crap thing? another this could have been a doctor. a nurse could have been the next president. we can't keep losing people out here. the, the, the, the welcome back across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter, without your mind. you were discussing the changing, middle east,
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the okay, let's go back to them on our say we, you were making a point before we went to the break. we finish truck, peter. thank you. well, basically we, we've seen the mass media, whether it's in europe, it's in the united states, they've studio bands and the coverage of 2 guys though, trust it is yes. so we've been going on since really january february on where we so, and we can see that the national televisions, we're getting very little insights on actually israel improvements of just situations. first, that is my age to comply with the uh, the international court of justice. uh, uh, order, if you will say this clearly uh, this is done on the page on this uranium. this truck is very interesting because as you said, the weight strictly it is treated as a victory, but it's to knox. and clearly disputed just that has been provided by these rail as well as the expanded to damage india and a, a bays and have a team in and, and, and run on
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a face in the new ship days. it is just simply not true. it's just not what you would expect from a balance to gas products. so again, we've been lied to. it is the other way to to present that. so, uh, wilmer in, in washington it's very interesting. i'm glad would probably have brought up the media coverage here. isn't it interesting? and i'll go to line along this because it has to do with semantics. ok. but you know, we hear from western leaders, they should be restrained restraint. do you know everybody, should we? well, they didn't call for restrain for 6 months, as a israel genocidal campaign was being played out in gauze in front of our eyes. i mean they, they want restraint 1st, not for humanitarian reasons, apparently. go ahead and washington it's, it's bizarre. well, 2 things. one, as it relates to the narrative, there was a piece recently that was talking about the fact that the new york times has decided they're not going to use the words palestine. and they're not going to use the words occupied territories. or at least are going to minimize the amount which
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they do that speaks volumes about the narrative. now, 2 restraints, there's a whole lot of rhetoric, rhetorical pauls for restraint, but there's not been a restraint on providing the military. the military hardware to design is colony of israel so that they continue to uh, to engage in genocide. there hasn't been a restraint on american generals. any is really war rooms helping to plan and to org, orchestrate the genocide. so there is a lot of rhetoric calling for restraint, but there is 0. yeah, 0. a real, real active restraint by the united states because president biden could bring it into this in 2 days. just by simply saying, we're not sending you any more hardware. we're not sending you any more money.
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every line on vitamins is never going to make that telephone call. a way we hear we hear from official circles that israel wants to retaliate against a directly against around the united states is not going to be part of that. i don't do believe that for one second. i don't mean just for the interest. but the reason that freddy was brought up is that their missile defense systems are all in co mingled here in the united states is going to know exactly what it's doing and it will give its tacit approval. i'm sorry, go headlines. well, no, you know, a gentleman assigned to a history, be rewritten just as an example in new york and the golden gate bridge and elsewhere. when you have pro palestinian a. postmasters, the way it is being the way the narrative works is well, there they go again, complete and utter traffic. k, i asked how dare these? and i'm thinking of myself. imagine during the height of the civil war, a civil rights movement. when dr. king and ralph ever and nothing other is a famous but edmund pettis bridge incident. boy,
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there they go again. jeremy hub traffic. know we harold, this is interesting. we the, the, the, the famous i have a dream speech. i'm sure parking was terrible that day when this event happened. peter, you, when i have talked about in the old days where we used to think about the native american we've been talking back to says she little says we're in marlon brando and barry my heart at wounded knee and we ask you patient mendoza. apartheid we seem to at least indicate a sentence and the ability to appreciate at least the concept that's gone now and you have circles, it's right on. that's right. you know, it's in line know, as always, brings up a really good point. you're ready. it shows to me, you know, the, the, the west like state lex or the world and it shows that it's virtuous and it must follow its ways out. but this is just neil colonialism all over it. it's even, it's an ugly form of it. i mean it, there is that it's not even, well, it least we're bringing drinking water in literacy. okay. is it the mask is
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completely off right now. okay. these israel has to be protected from these round people who cares where they came from. it who cares where they're going. that's how well blunted is right now, freddy. and yes, as it gets to say, i think it's important to understand the embarrassment with desire in these projects. you know, because it was established, doesn't it? no nation every states in palestine. so as i say it, nick based states that might survive, you know, the 1000 small countries and more importantly, if they're not violent, if they're not aggressive. but the state like israel, of which is, was built on the secular nationalism is definitely key outdated in the 21st century . yet everybody the knows that are not as maybe for the media and most price, but are in the do promoted circle. when you speak with the problem, as everybody knows that smoke just needs to go, it's an embarrassment, and it's creating more important that it needs to. the problem is that we have a political survival on the table here and media, i'll be literally for the last past 6 months. you know, you know,
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crises of communication mode, meaning that there's always off to confirm or they have to kind of just g 5, g a trusted up we are saying. so anything that is happening is treated on the prices on an emergency business a little bit, pretty much the same way that our government is currently, you know, applying, and, and governing in the west. you know, it's all emergency, everything is an emergency. and that is creating difficulty because nice catching up with them. and that's exactly what happened. obviously last week and with the, with the origins drive, people got to see actually the truth. so it was, it kind of, or, you know, wake up call reality check it you. yeah, it was a eureka moment in many ways. wilmer, it's very interesting to me that they, the west i invented for essentially the concept of international law. i'm equal treatment under it, and now we have countries like south africa in nicaragua,
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i'd say, yeah, what, why don't we apply these laws equally right now, because it's really interesting. who did joe biden turned to 1st after israel was attacked? but g 7 o the globe, your former color meal flowers. i mean, well, you know that this in the be, they have no sense of iron. me. they the same people that, you know, exported the ideology of colonial ization. they're the ones who are going to still decide what the world's and thinking do. it's really amazing to me. go ahead. well, i, this, i believe is a, a very, very clearly, an example of the power of the rise of china. the power of the rise of russia on the international stage with bricks. joe biden turns to g 7 when it's really now the rising of bricks, brazil, india, russia, and china, south africa, and the other. 17 countries. i think that now want to join the organization to,
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to imagine what the acronym would be if you had all of them in there. but, well, i think we need to outsource about the line and we could probably get it to work. okay. i'm sorry for the liberty keep going in in washington. and i think it's also important to understand that that breaks for the most part is an economic organization. yeah. and what the united states is fighting. they're fighting the rise and development of the economies, and they're using militarism to do so. so these other countries, south africa and others that are turning to the international court of justice in the criminal court. they, their voices would, would have fallen upon death for years. and years ago, because there would not have been the counter force uh the, the, to make this take it from a unilateral power dynamic to a multi lateral power dynamic. and when i say power dynamic, i'm not only talking militarism because, you know, when it's when united, when chatted the size of this had enough of us carrier groups in the south china sea. they'll send
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a hypersonic missile in there to solve that problem. but the issue now is the dollarization, the issue is challenging. economies in the united states only solution is military as well. you know, line all, you know, it, we've mentioned the president, the united states, mr. biden here, a number of times. um and, and freddy is kind of uh, alluded to a good business shift in narrative. you know, um, you know, all of us were brought up on the propaganda against the move was and it ran and all that it was, it was, you know, part of our, every day the news diet is that would find is going to do now is that you know, ship the attention away from the gaza, which is, you know, dogging him at every single campaign. stop and just um, beat the drums of war against the ram. is that, is that going to work? because he has to be careful because the war actually could happen line on as well . if, if ever you're going to shift the narrative of anything,
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there is no better country in the world. and here i could tell you gentlemen, to times square a couple of blocks from me and offer a $1000.00 to anybody who knows what rick says, no, think it's a line from a pink voice on. they have no idea. none whatsoever. i also have, like i, i my quote, a questionable, dubious intellectual friends who will give the most persuasive narrative as to their disinclination to support a war in support of zalinski. and it makes sense, i say, now let's take those precepts, those concepts and apply them here. oh no, no, no, this is different. is there what's different about and, and it's interesting how we can on a moment's notice, we can focus and turn. there are people who still think the middle east that iran has below the who sees that this is some pre historic, almost a does this and to query a group of people with spears who live in
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a world. i'm sure they don't understand that you're talking about really serious, sizable contingent. and the thing which scares me the most is when people have it in their heart, when they have a desire, when they have a kind of blood in their. so i to the mix metaphor, but for americans don't have that. we're saying, well, you know, we, we intellectually understand this, but you're talking about people who live in read this and, and i'm, i'm, i'm the 1st rule of war son. zoo notwithstanding is make sure you understand the capacity for commitment of anybody you're engaging because you're going to where they have is their future, their family, their history, their pro, but not this. this is here. well, as i central you line on what you're saying is that when we've talked about breaks and we chat, then talking about changes in the middle east and elsewhere. so when the american
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