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some people were never going to change them on something and never change their minds about video. they think i was wrong. and that's it. the, it seems like in modern times, everything has a ranging from culture to economics. and of course, political sound lists are considered to be in achievement, to be included, while others are less desired sky. now, here's an on this edition of $360.00 view. we're going to discuss a recent list of the top freedom fighters around the world. and if this is an honor which only places a larger target on their back, let's get started. the dan wooten, who is a journalist and broadcaster from new zealand, has just published a list of the 50 biggest freedom fighters all around the world today. now wooten
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who has been canceled himself included many people who are subjects of cancel culture and came to rise again, fighting for their beliefs and one of the biggest m s m b 's helps in history. i was taken off that because of comments towards folks made about the flames throwing left just commented to eva, send tina as my friend megan kelly told me, you were the 1st bull costa in this quote to be cancelled, but not being offensive enough by somebody. now of course, this is all personal opinions. no paul was say it was taken and even in the comments below, his initial post, he agrees, is quite subjective. and there are many people who probably could have included. however, one fact remains true from this list. all of these names are from western countries or quote unquote, 1st world countries who are supposedly represent the free world. and as you look at tick tock, bands, governments partnering with social media companies to create censorship. this does raise a very important question,
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has tomorrow and politics and the rise of an filter. social media made us less free or more as well. joining us now to discuss our political analyst and write your husband, jamal thomas, tom norton, chairman of the american pack and media analyst line a welcome. all 3 of you, people who i considered to be freedom fighters and should be number 12, and 3 on this list. but i guess the list for got you guys for up my name as well so well. just do what we do best and talk about everybody else line. oh, i got to start with you on this. who a list of a do you believe are fighting currently for freedom? who would you include if you were to make yours? president trump. he wasn't on the front and he was not here anyway. i don't think he was on here. was a slow you asked me who was included. yes, he wasn't on the whether he is or not at the list as you know what it is. the sad part about it is very quickly a do you and the gentleman, the people who have been mentioned or not the special. they just had the
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unmitigated audacity to believe that they could express an opinion or the opinion that might have been not like. and i don't know about you, but i like spice in my food and spice and my commentary. and remember, you only take flats when you're over the target. what these people represent were victims of not 1st amendment violation is per se, using our system. but people who were use are targeted by, as by proxies for government. remember, all the social media systems were, are, are there as agents as the look of browse the, as the enforcers of government, their proxy they, are they quite free speech quash up opinion. so the idea that it's more exact gerberg and base those sitting in their garage as private entrepreneurs is b s. they're active agents of a government that wants to shut you up. and the society that loves the scrum loves the pitch for it. and torch brigades, they loved to shut you down. just got
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e mail huge. they love it because they're a bunch of mean girls. and they just loved the crushed people just because they just do well, i think there's also more to the driver if you want on a lot of the points. right. but i think there's also more to it tomorrow because i think there's a bigger purpose, a bigger narrative, a bit bigger agenda. that's even not even about making money for a lot of these, this. their purpose is they want everybody to be directed into one narrative. and if you don't agree with that narrative, then your voice should be silent. yes, brick new technology and social media. i mean that's basically what the internet is, right? i mean, whether you had radio with the tv initially you were able to corral people within a very specific funnel. in regards to a point of view. and with social media, they basically lost control of a narrative and, and trying to regain control of the narrative. that's when you get a take top band that's when you're getting a pretty pressure on the line of us. that's when you get an important pressure schellenberg. i mean, look at what they did the arc can you when he was the testimony, i mean a flash, the guy. um, he was another one of those people that just will have to be on that list what they
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were going after. now the issue is the loss control of the narrative in the way that media would typically find all that information. and this is the political are trying to read it flooded was right. i mean, when you're looking at the twitter it list, i would love to sing youtube list. i would love to see the facebook list and the pressure that gets put on these companies, but the federal government to either allow or dislike. oh, it goes ballparks, is it the one thing about this listed for public and democrats? libertarians very well represented on this list. so tom, i've got ask you, when you look at the number of people on your and the people that are on there, do you have any are dish additions that you think should be highlighted if someone is a freedom fighter, a. h, as in certain certain people out there like margin to a grant or then added the list. i mean there's 50 people on the list that will trump was number 6. i think the list was very well rounded for multiple political parties. they get an added people like, uh, what's your name of a former policy, gabbert foster that avery's and added to the less that they had a very wide variety of both
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a traditional liberals and conservatives on this was. and the idea that they can see it up and have their freedom of speech as embrace and the 1st amendment. and that's something that i should have should be embraced and thought we need to stop fighting wolf versus not log and start talking about the united states constitution again. because if we start doing that, they can realize that it gives us a right to hurt people's feelings, and the freedom of thought is essential for people to be able to move forward in the future. but that's the one thing. you know, i'm going to need this arm jamal. when i look at that list of people's names that are listed, they have background because they have people behind them. if the individuals that probably don't have a lot of money, probably don't have a team of lawyers by him that you never hear of their names on that side of it. so does it prove the reason why we're talking about these people is they have groups and organizations already behind them? well yeah, i mean, the random person who, nobody knows, nobody knows for reasons that yeah, and right the random person. do you remember when they had the election and the women they kept calling these people rushing box, right. and the one was like,
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i'm not a rush, but i mean human being that person under normal circumstances, you don't know who that person is. i mean, for all of the sky, you know, hits for the military. so instead of a little arrivals, if you have picked witherspoon, what, right, who has a particular political opinion that they didn't necessarily like? so it was nobody good luck with the school. it worked well, nobody could find it. what is facebook page? no, it. you love us is the richest man on the plan. so we have a freedom fighters, a bit funny, but on some level, yeah, i mean, the limits has been pretty. or as long as you're not talking about a lot of us, here's vague and you're doing the 2599. do you know blue check fee or whatever they have now? right. right. you're good there to be a freedom fighter on that one. so why don't i'm going to ask you there are, should you believe though that there's meant that there should members of the major media outlets actually be considered freedom fighters or they're just doing their job? no, i'd be afraid of finding that. that sounds great. i like,
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i like it like your terrorist. oh, that's really something like that. but here's, here's the thing, which is interesting. oh, i know it's, it's not the thought police. i've always worried about it. so thought, vigilantes, it's the, it's the, it's the private citizens. we live in a world, let me say this again. mean girls and people who just loved a shut you up and shut you down. and what we did was, remember the 1st one of government is don't let people speak never to find a reason to give them why they are. why are they bid show this effects? national security is obscene, and now we're into, hey, it's racist is and do some of it's friends, phobic. and then we get into, i love missing information, this information and that information. and then we'll do is we will set up, artificial. i'll put 10 truce policies, truce a vigilant ease, who determines, you know, whether it's snowball or whatever it is. is it, i'm sorry, that's a truth back,
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but if i access that seems right to be who are you? and what we do is we are so do so in love with this machine. it will department, no, no, i'll back off. whatever. please let me type introduce myself is let me take pictures of me with my girls. let me take pictures of me with my, my, my filters. it can be my food, please don't take that away. i'll shut up, i'll be good. and they use this as a condo to shut people up. and remember, the federal government is saying, it's not us. it's not the 1st amendment, my ass is not the 1st amendment there proxies. let me also tell you, if you think for one minute that there are good guys here. god bless you on much, but if you thing, he's a state. if you thing, he doesn't himself know his own brands of censorship. i don't believe you would. one question to tell me one thing that you never want to have ordered on any platform, anywhere named one thing. one thought, what idea that should never ever be uttered? i can't think of one. you don't like to turn it off. well,
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that's very open minded of you. why no, to say just do you know if you don't like it, go away, but that's not how it exists as world tom, in fact, that you're probably take line or speech right there. if i tweet that out, i'll get shadow bands because of the how much truth should does it not also say something though about the politicians that like you mentioned marjorie taylor green, they're all elected. all of them should be fighting for freedom. how sad is it that we have to put the ones that are fighting on a list and the others? what are they doing with our tax payer dollars that they're getting paid? well, what's happening here is what we really need to start doing is like standing up and encouraging people to be the foot soldiers, us to bring up the proxy portions of what we can to encourage people to practice across united states in their own realm. that's where you have to socially have other groups that are standing up and everybody is that the other day into it for a margin, a profit. so as long as you are tracking the base, you can sit there and bring them in. but if you're tractor base where you're talking about actual freedom of speech and it's not, well, i believe that platform will continue to grow
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a little bit more. i've used twitter probably more since even i lots versus that. know he's not a st. any of the guys at a more wives and kids, most of us would ever dream of. but when you're there, is this guy on the planet, i guess you can afford to do that. i mean, child support is not that big at that point, i guess. but there's a freedom of speech that's there that even he sits there and then can embrace and encourage. and if i on the platform, most of us and so there and say hey, don't pick. i mean that's, that's just where the majority of us would go and say, hey, you see whatever you want. just leave me alone because i'm paying for it as rental rate instead of 1984, i'm paying for this microphone. and that is probably one of these guys because there are still private organizations can look at them, but they are right that a lot of them are proxy isn't nothing more than a major phone of the democratic party. and quite frankly, i think i'm fox news or nothing more than a microphone for the r and c. i mean, you probably are either not cable in the back of their mouse moves and you know, it's coming straight from the german ship and straight from the top to well,
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with that lovely image in our head right now, even though where you have to that would lead us to what the new are and say look for i want to take a break because after we're going to continue this discussion and we're going to also look at why people have to fight for freedom say, why is that just not a given? will be back the, [000:00:00;00] the with the discovery of the new world at the end of the 15 century, there appeared atlantics, slave gray. the slave traders from european countries started building fords on the
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western coast of the african continent to transport the african inhabitants to america. to be forced into hard labor until the middle of the 17th century. portugal had laid the main role in this atrocious business. in great britain, france and the netherlands took the leadership for this fan of 400 years of legal and illegal slave trade. about 17000000 people were forcefully shipped across the atlantic. not including those who died on the way due to unbearable living conditions. modern historians estimate that for each slave ship to america, there were 5 who died while captured during transportation and cruel obliteration of rebellion. this roof was the whole tre practice by the leading european countries, took away tens of millions of african lines. the organization of united nations
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classifies the trans atlanta slaved raids as one of the greatest human rights abuses in the history of humanity. this is the biggest act of deportation, of people ever seen by mankind. the western relief, endlessly declared, they are virtuous because of their so called values. the assault on the palestinians destroys them of their virtues and reveals they have no values at all . you know, this is the case when they say, i believe in free speech, but let's continue our discussion about the fight for freedom and who are some of the name makers with our panel, political analyst or a host, inter mall thomas, a tom norton chairman, as american pack and media analysts line. oh, welcome on this one. let me start with you over this thompson ended when i started
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the 2nd look at this list. it was composed by dan wouldn't. it's all interesting to me that was 99.9 percent come from what i consider to be developed countries. does this mean that actually freedom is under attack more and those regions which are known for having it or can you not take away something that you've never had? i think the freedom is drastically being attacked in western countries because we have violated the concept of freedom of speech. we violated in the 1st amendment we've, we've, we've made judge, jury and executioner of the media. and i mean, if we look around the world, i've certain, if i dig through stories of and asking nations that are some of them still developing that we've been fine and true freedom fighters, they're defending, you know, families that are gonna be executed or starving. and i think that do it agree, some of those freedom fighter west is also in bracing our own. he go to an extent that we think that we are extra special, but it is true that freedom is under attack and it was this fashion of freedom is
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gone. you're the united states as this miraculous experiment. there's not going to be too many other places left to go, and that's what we have to sit there and stand up and truly fight for is restoring that freedom of speech. and again, as i said before, is making sure that we encourage people to stand up and be there are freedom fighter, these freedom of social media platforms and thousands of people got out of them and made their own opinion heard at thousands of people said i'm tired with protecting your pronouns because i have no idea how you feel today because 24 hours has passed and people's opinions can truly change. and we are all standing up and fighting for we believe that i think we can restore and move it back in the other direction. there's 1000000 of millions of americans that believe in individual freedom believe in that 1st amendment that need to stand up and just say what their opinion is. and we'll be able to turn back the clock by just truly being yourselves. tom, i love your optimism line. oh, do you believe the glasses have that have full when it comes to freedom being restored? are we all ready? let the genie out of the bottles?
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you know, the glass is too large, and by the way, i love your mixed metaphors and the toothpaste is already out of the to we don't think i'll let, let, let me know, i think are the, you know, without respect to this article, the fact of this freedom that these are just people making opinions. let me, let me give you my favorites. this is my favorite. you remember awhile back or, or, or in, from time immemorial, every now and then they'll go to college campuses and, and they hate college campuses day, hey, it depends what it is. it depends. i'm not going to go into whether it's the alarm or whether it's a is, or whether it's trump, or whether it's something about israel or against bite, but they loved to go to college, kept. and to me i, we thought that was a marketplace of free ideas. i always thought that's where you went and you went to say crazy to whatever. and they'll say that change speech. ladies and gentlemen, i want to not introduce my platform, my new movement of hash tags. so what if i say something that is hateful? so what hate is protected? speak, you can hate anything you want. you can love it. anything you want. you can say me the more in my perfect world,
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so long as you don't ever activate upon that or hurt them, but i don't care whether you hit somebody and love them, hit somebody and hate them, or you hate them because of their race or the way they look at their sexual somewhere along the line. the word hate, hate became a part of our idea that somehow this is pro scribe. so we took these things called a hate crime. remember that it's not right. we should have a crime course. there's no loved point and i am going to be penalized for daring to utter a thought which is protected, which i've happened to pair with somebody which is against the law. and what we do is our biggest problem, our, the idiots in the global north pacific, is it ok? well, the trade rollers and they never did is not equal base. and this had not a, put our, yes, it's a of course, hash tag show what? and i want to make people tough and i want to grow a fix skin, grow a pair, good, a bad phone shut up. so what, let them say to bill why just leave. okay, that's the absence of free. but why don't i got,
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i got to push back on this at what age does that start? because we talk about college campus, we can say that as an adult. but in middle school elementary school, when you're a school, you could only say certain things, certain words, certain parts. when does it start that you can actually have the freedom to say, so what? and you don't have to abide by certain guidelines or adults anytime anything a word to i mean we're not talking about kids. and so worry about anything about a bunch of kids there. they're not. i've discussed political ideals right now. and high schools and middle schools, elementary schools, they're not allowed to wear t shirts and say, you know, i love jesus on it or bring a career on to sort actual and it won't listen. and that's a different story. there's probably as close on the story, and if it's a political class, we should be able to talk about that. what the bottom line is simply this is not just children. it's people the we know, well how many times have you been aligned or some kind of russian problem again, this is that, i guess we would call the potent supporter where you've been actually a line, jo barely because you said, i don't think this happens and makes sense how many times of,
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i mean it's the most. and then recently i saw american congressman waving a ukrainian flag on the far, the congress screaming on their, i mean, you crazy. what the hell is wrong with it? well, what am i? are you as a lensky? hater so i, there's no name for this, i'm an american damage. i don't like this there. and if that's freedom and i'm fighting for a trip, we've lost our minds. that's the problem. oh that's, that's definitely we agree on and jermel a lot of it's happening in pop culture. yeah. you're seeing, it's not just you expected from the la floor of the house. you know, they're gonna talk about what you're saying and, and pop culture right now. whether we're talking about movies in, in music, is that being used as a rebel, as a tool to take away freedom as well. it's definitely been used as a tool to get across the point of view. let's start, right. what are my favorite shows, such like discovery, they have just destroyed that show. and like, you would have seen, such as all ready a, what is the type of, you know, all of the different ideas and everything else,
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all the different morality that's edited to it. and i remember one of the discovery think ahead is like basically correcting somebody when they pronounce their, their alien like like it at a certain point it becomes a bit obama. but be clear though this is a political issue. this is less like, i don't like the random america. i don't think the air rich americans sitting some way x is pointing their speech and when they are talking to somebody else, they're just having a conversation with somebody else. when you get into a political situation where that becomes a bit different and you have to get the word that line or use something. did you, lenny, yes, but he's right. that domain, look at what they've done with the one who did her part. i mean, she got did, once i arrest me, if you feel that confident about it, just because, you know, i've had to protect women spaces or just because, you know, i put out, hey, maybe this biological male should be the other women and sporting events. and they would call that transfer with no i it, it is gotten very strange. in the old days we used to be able to have these
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political. but let me think about the 6th leave as of right. some of the stuff they used to say of those fights and somewhere along the way to get to the point of, it's not just that we could have a conversation, but i need to get rid of you. like it's not just disagree with you where i could deal with your narrative and give you a particular point of view. it's you just need to disappear. and that's it's frankie, especially also for media when they could actually do it. mm hm. i mean, you know what, i like this spreading out, try to get something. i mean, just seems like that's what they basically doing and electronic capacity and they're doing that and i wish somebody people rely on the phone. tom, the other element honestly, i think actually as described as the whole thing, are those that are capitalizing on this fight for freedom. do you think that diminishes the work they're doing? a lot of people on this list and we know make a lot of money just by saying certain things and they throw these fireball items out there and they get lots of clicks and they get lots of dollars that go into the bank accounts because of what they said, do they actually believe it? i think a lot of them don't there, there are many us and i think it's
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a valid point. i remember back growing up in the eighty's and ninety's. you'd see these a religious, even jealous on there that made it into a business and moved away from my to where they've got it. so yes, and they, they turn it into a for profit organization. so some people on the west are doing that. not all of them. there are quite a few people on there that are on there doing it for the right reasons. as i said, it's a pretty solid list. there's no list that's ever going to be made in a 1000000 years. it's a perfectly upsets uh, the site both of us like star tracking. both of us would agree that discovery was completely destroyed. it because who cares about pronouns because like some of them are you in a sex down there from and that was back into the 6. yeah. so exactly, so, but that started back then here, but here we are 50 years later and look where we've got into a line. all that's my comment is that so often we put the focus on like said the pronouns that are we don't praise the ones that are continuing to push for it. so therefore they don't even bother to put their next on the lines. do you think that
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we should be doing a better job the whole course? you know, you mentioned just star tracking by the way, gentlemen, thank you for it. as a star track that drives me crazy or than that, but i loved the movie being there, which ones you gartner and peter sellers. and i want to do if i, if, if i ran, let's say youtube, i would take somebody who was certifiably insane. i mean, absolutely end of the story is get your product just out of their mind and i would create a, a platform and i would give them immediately 15000000 views. and immediately within 24 hours, this is going to be the se, just going to be the profit, duplicate be say, you know what? he's right. why? because of numerical validation. you know, many file rejects, you know, many likes figures because we're now it's really a, it's kind of like a weird meritocracy. it has to do with the numbers and all of the people that have been measured on this freedom fighter list of one thing in common. their numbers, not their words, not, they're not, not the, the, the, the genius, their idea for the fact of their popularity. it's that number, it's that like,
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how many times do you ever watch anything? and the 1st thing they tell you was please like this police file. let me, i remember what you said. yes. please like this. it's like going into a restaurant. they ask you to tip they asked me and my dry cleaners the tip of much i want to bring my stuff. so what happens is the freedom fighters, we live in this world of this artificial sense of worth determined by numbers. and we will sit there and say this guy is crazy. he's got 10000000 view. oh, okay. let me reconsider that. that's where we are at the gene use of this. we're not even listening to what they say. how about somebody who really makes a great point, but has for view or yeah. or and, and, and sits in your bedroom with the messy room who says 1000000 things. nobody cares about her. she's not worthy of it. give her 10000000 views, 10000000 subs. and now we're talking. this is instead of the what, what type of marriage is that, that's for a different issue, of course. well, and that's the merit right now, that scares about it. and this is, i will give you with
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a lot from this because that supposed to be coming. credibility is like line or pointed out. yeah. is happening in the numbers. it's becoming sort of a horse trade. the bigger the numbers means, the more important you are, the more truthful truth that you're speaking. that's not true. where does this go from here, though? and by the way, it convinces the person with those numbers, right? gives nice but the most ridiculous things in the world and it's like, well, i have too many views. so i, i thought of, oh, i'm right in the draft. yeah. yeah, that's the way it works. right. i mean, that's how it works. and youtube, i would imagine if i were to deal with that level, where does it go? is an interesting question. i mean, the reality is it does seem to be the slight, with this kind of pushing pull between um, the mechanism of, let's say, like a so for me to an internet that allows this kind of expression versus this pull back with this club back of that capability of being able to get that expression. i don't know what that is. i mean, the, the rub is, you get a situation where the censorship gets more over, or you get a situation with people that are bad because of that nature on that side of it.
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yeah. so it's unclear. it's under well jamal line on tom norton. thank you. so much for joining me also. thank you for not saying be me. i've scottie, when you started talking about star trek, i sort of happy to stay and break out from my childhood from what they used to call me. so i think all 3 of you for joining me and having the freedom to discuss, oh yes, line. oh, oh, see very good. all right back it you guys. thank you to you know, sadly a list which identifies specific individuals who are publicly fighting. not only should be considered an honor, but also we can sort of warning as these individuals are guaranteed to be targets if they are not already. but those who wish to receive power and control. now the old adage goes not all heroes where capes. and while i think it is good things to have those individuals in the public eye, actively known for pushing back against tyranny, there are so many as are panel pointed out behind the scenes who are fighting, but they're doing so through the choices they're making. was hard to gauge, those individuals are, it is their existence which is going to be the most effective and secure in the
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future. it is this group of teachers, dr. small business owners. and they're like, we're going to save the world from ultimate control by. busy lead or at the very least, radically slow the okay, now here's and this has been in your 360 do. thank you for watching the the when the world's largest democracy votes,
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the rest of the planet watchers in an emerging multi polar world. india's voice matters. but who will be the power behind watches, almost 1000000000 people decide and billions more, react the the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered on peter lavelle. western relates endlessly declare they are virtuous because of their so called values. the assault on the palestinians destroys the midst of their virtues and reveals they have no values at all. you know, this is the case when they say, i believe in free speech,
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but the cross talking palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal in media analyst in kitchener. we have roberts latina, he is a journalist, as well as author of settler colonialism in palestine and kashmir, and its hold on. we crossed to my home in mirandi, who is a professor at the university of korean, cried filming prospect roles and the fact that means you can tell me any time you want. and i always appreciate why don't let me go to it for you 1st. so you're, you're a resident in the fishbowl, so you're, but your opinion is very valuable to us. the us house passed a bill that would conflate criticism of israel with anti semitism. i thought when you became a member of congress who took an oath to the constitution, or am i getting something wrong? this is the constitution of the united states, and i hold it up and people say, there you go again. peter,
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