the the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered on peter lavelle. western relates endlessly declared. they are virtuous because of their so called values. the assault on the palestinians destroys the midst of their virtues and reveals they have no values at all. you know, this is the case when they say, i believe in free speech, but the prospect in palestine, i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal in media analyst in kitchener. we have roberts latina, he is a journalist, as well as author of settler colonialism in palestine and cashmere. and until then we crossed to home in mirandi, who's a professor at the university of trend. right?

so being cross type roles and the fact that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate why don't let me go to it for you 1st here, you're our resident in the fishbowl. so you're, but your opinion is very valuable to us. the us house passed a bill that would conflate criticism of israel with anti semitism. i thought when you became a member of congress who took an oath to the constitution, or am i getting something wrong? this is the constitution of the united states, and i hold it up and people say, there you go again. i to, peter, i don't even know how to tell you that this week i'm finding myself aligning with people that i swore i would never agree with. as of the time of day, jerry nod lettering adler with jerry adler, who was a mighty congress person who, who is devoid of any even scintilla of reality, is a jew or a member is saying, anti semitism is a violent or excuse me, probations against the slot the for the i,

the age of the bad you semitism is against the notion of a breeze please. it's unconstitutional. i just heard you're not going to believe this from the n y p, the police counter intelligence unit, a woman say that she's concerned about i. d is being discussed on campuses that deal with terrorism and get this people wearing scarves, heads, and bands associated with terrors. i'm going to get is this a coffee? yeah, i think he what is happening? one minute we have the n y, b, d, r, resting no one for anything. now we're talking about id ation. thought, and it's one last thing. it's not the thought police i worry about is the 5 digit land these? because if you watch fox news, oh my god, because what,

what country am i live? well, yeah, exactly. mohammed and so then again, you know, there were, uh, the rules based order. uh, they liked to echo, but look what they did to the students at the university of california, los angeles. they allowed vigil land teeth. they come in and clear those students using extreme force. and from what i understand, the police were either not there, or they just watched professor, as you know, what is amazing is that the united states and it's western allies. they don't seem to recognize that the world has changed. people see what's going on in new york, on campus at columbia university. they see what's going on and you see how a wild people in the united states are in the east coast may be a sleep. people in asia are watching the video video and he's crush the

protesters. so the united states and the europeans, not only are they violating all of the principles that they pretend to support, and not only is this rule base order, very different from what we are told that was supposed to be to be. but the united states and europeans are destroying their own soft power. they've already destroyed it yet, but they are dirt their main street, making sure that nothings left. a toy as early as a single robbery, as we were captivated and rightfully so. what was going on with these anti war anti genocide? whats called it's called them what they should be called. okay. protests we had visa slaughter continue in concert. so it's very interesting. we said all we see is the use of force without any legitimate backings to it. whatsoever, what is real is that is doing is genocidal. and what the police are doing in the united states were breaking the law on so many different levels. and then you have

the prime minister of israel, coordinating, it seems like official them in the united states. the what the, what to do about of crushing defense against his country and his regime. you can't get it. you can't make this stuff up. robert. know you can't. and it's kind of shocking to think that in the year 2024 people are arrested for opposing genocide. and this idea of the uh, the ad type is real participants visual. be able to submit a, this is this is and has for a long time because even before it's been kind of a 5 and last the professors are afraid to talk about in your classes. they're talking about a colonialism. maybe the tongue. busy canadian colonialism, certainly, or quoted as ned states, and if they ask their students, can you give us an example of colonialism? if they say, yes, israel and palestine, they can get in trouble for that. it makes students feel uncomfortable. well, if you're in university, you're going to be comfortable,

sometimes that just comes with the territory because you're gonna be learning different things of being exposed to different ideas. so being uncomfortable, it's not criminal. then as you mentioned, benjamin netanyahu tell gunite it states that they have to, to, to squash these or crush these, these protests who is the leader of any other country, let alone one that's been declared. and a part i presume by, by several very respect was human rights organizations to tell you, i did states how to deal with campus protests. this is actually this bizarre, this unreal, it's likely fall down some, some rabbit whole somewhere. yeah. and we, and we haven't learned any of the important lessons of the last 75 years last a 100 years. when it comes international relations. we have the genocide conventions because a genocide was committed line. oh, you're a lawyer here, attorneys inside the bite administration or the us to cut off is real. also a group of 90 lawyers including 20, within the administration,

st. israel's actions do not comply with us and international law. mean these are lawyers within the administration. okay. it's, it's, they shouldn't be shocked by people being demonstrating against their own lawyers. no, it's wrong lines. i even know where, where to start with or something. let me just do a couple of things out here in the same people, gentlemen who, who, who, and i was one of the who said, why are you arresting j 6 protesters? many of these people were just standing there, or they were part of a washington tour or the said, hey, what's all this noise next week? you know, they're, they're, they're corralled and thrown into an underground go rod for the, for god knows how long. and they argue against this, we have jill stein yet, who is in the dictionary next to meek and passive and heart. i'm not horrible isn't intellectually, but just the nicest. she's just standing there being cooperate, why? the police? and they said, well,

she shouldn't have been there. then this is the best part, the media will focus on these. lona techs who come forward. there was a woman who stood before a self appointed spokesperson, an expert, the media relations complaining about the fact that her food service cards had been discontinued, and they couldn't get certain bottled water when they're get this protesting against har. ready. terrific. a starvation in gaza and this woman is arguing about she didn't get the right flora day, the water. i mean, this is a good. it is in say, and there's also can common and lead peaceful virility. your discussions never discussed, never mentioned by anybody may see media constructive jose, uh, a palestinian talking without any problems. nobody talks about. yeah, it would be the interesting thing is, is that it seems to me that again,

these protests are, need to be covered. we're discussing them right now, but there is a defense of being organized against profit. and i think with this passage of this legislation center will go along with it. you know, of course this is just proforma, but they, they want to shut down any discussion and debate when that invasion starts. i feel it in my bones. go head mom and but what are they going to do when it does start? and when the genocide intensifies, when uh, the daily footage that we see on our cell phones gets worse. and when this riley machine will also fail on the ground as it has already failed and causes city in the north and elsewhere. what will happen in the united states will be students and other students remain quiet or well. the anger and discontent grow.

and regardless of what happens in, in the united states, what will the rest of the world do? what will the people in the global south do? what will ordinary people in europe do? how will they respond to this? when they see on the one hand, the united states is crushing descent when it's sending funds to u. c. l a to beat and fat are these students who as drew a guest, right, the point that we're just protesting, genocide, they're not doing anything but they're not even protesting against the, the, the u. s. regime. they're protesting about what another regime is doing to you know, to, to wipe out the policy, need people. so what, what is going to happen when the attack on the roof? i begin to is only going to make things worse for washington is going to make things worse for london. in fact, what, what do people in the global south think when they think when they look at china and the united states? so they see freedom versus authoritarianism. when they look at iran or mosque out

tap, ron or mosque out, do they see that the united states as free and tap ron and mosque out as a for a tarion. they don't see it that way anymore. why? because the capability of the western media to enforce this narrative across the world has collapsed. right now when i speak. i recently, i had a, an interview with piers morgan. and the reaction was hostile towards him. not towards me because people are seeing through the this narrative. so the united states is demolishing its empire. it's already been doing so. but this is, i think the last day it's, it's really interesting. how did you bring that up here as morgan because he had on the professor mirror showing me or, and i never so i, i, i've never seen in my life a host embarrassed himself by his own stupidity and a double down and a triple out. it was just amazing that he even put it on youtube,

that he was so humiliated. but that's what, that's what happens when you, you support the powers that be and you don't interrogate troops. ok, that's i, i think that's what foreshadowing what we're going to see. more of gentlemen, i have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on palestine state bar to the the, [000:00:00;00]

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of the commanders of the german troops kept in wagon. heim wrote only anger and one can lead to final submission. military actions alone will remain more or less a drop in the ocean. the blasphemous bland work, the invaders burned villages and fields. in 2 years, germany deliberately starved up to 300000 people to death. later the monstrous experience of the 2nd right in tanzania was copied by the 3rd right laid by the nazis in order to extricate the peoples of europe. the welcome back. across the dock were all things are considered on peter lavelle to mind you were discussing policy on the right. let's go to robert here. robert. it's very interesting. they in the waiting

times it comes to is real. it's always an exception. it's different uh they, it's a special case, etc. but actually if you look at what's going on a minute, nothing. yeah. whose campaign against the, obviously the people of gaza but also targeting him us. this is just another example of a forest regime change that started in the former yugoslavia and went all through the middle east and now they're trying to do it in, in gaza. but roberts, i'd like to point out, it never works and never works out the way you expect it to is, and they're trying it against these people have no learning curve. and professor miranda is absolutely right. their, their soft power of abilities are dissipating or is gone. go ahead, robert. yes, it, it never works because the united states, other western governments forget that people in different countries have loyalty to their countries. they have a way that they want their, their governments to run. they don't want to be forced into some kind of

a form of government that is not to their liking. one example going back a while is, is iran with united states and 1953. i believe was over to the government of iran and installed the doodle shop and he will for doing 30 years. i believe it was until the people of iran river over to him and, and it's still a government to their liking. now, any government has problems, any government issues, they're going to be some people that disagree with certain government policies. doesn't mean the one over to the government. and they, it certainly doesn't mean that they want a government forced by the united states to be, to be installed in their, in their nation. and when we talked about the uh forthcoming rasa innovation, which is going to be just so brutal and so bloody at how the, this new ball repressing descent is going to play out in the people who are protesting. know that they're following all the rules. that the government sets for their, their protest, the process is worthless. it's,

it's an exercise in futility. so if in the university campuses, people are, they have to 2 days, notice that they're gonna have a protest. they have to be in one certain area and stay there. well, they know that's a waste of time. they might just will not bother. they're going to take action. that is going to get them publicity and get what i'm well right. i mean a rubber today. i agree with you, i mean, if the authorities aren't going to play by the rules and why should the student say this is what we're descending into the abyss right now. like, oh, you know, you love words, you know, again, this whole phrase um, but from the rib to this, the palestine will be free. well, who has the right to determine what that means? because when i say it, when i think about it, i think about everyone being free, the palestinians, jews, secular, people, all people being equal from the river to the sea. but i can get into a lot of trouble. i probably have already gotten myself into trouble by saying that, but i will not allow someone to tell me what my words mean. go headlines. well, either a couple of things to do this is you, you,

you talked about great words. i go back to uh the words of our senator daniel patrick moynihan, who brought up of flux, the nice mediately pill of occasion. one time, which is the action of estimating is worthless, which is what i feel i'm doing. what i'm trying to explain to people. what's going on at least hear me give an example. there was a senator who said, because there was a talk, a bite and bringing folks over from guys to the united states. oh no, no, no, we can do that way my. why? well, because they're how my supporters and their id all g and i. so i asked and somebody said, you know, you're right about that because if there's one thing we got to get to the bottom of, it's all the fun to know, cartels in gaza and you go to what are you talking about as a whole lot again, right. now next, they talk about ideology. i said, why wasn't anybody interested in the as of battalion and right sector and neo nazis and ukraine? you, so just stick with your program. i'll go along with you,

but you can change the rules in mid stream and then expect to, and by the way, i sound like the most unpatriotic only in america. could you pull this off where you could say the most blatantly loaded chris, hypocritical nonsense, and nobody will call you out because we don't know because remember in in here how much gaza is real, but if this is going low of term, what does the extra weight labeled line, oh it's, it's of liberalism. okay. and it's toxic and it can kill you and it certainly kills a lot of people around the world mohammed. one of the interesting things for me is that, you know, when they mention in the media, when they talk about israel, well, let's be more specific. this is a sinus, presume it is run by a zionist ideology and people that adhere to it. okay. and what we have is designed

ization of the west. okay. a willingly allowing themselves to be colonized by these ideas. yes. and it is, it is the starting, the rest, the west. and, but what is what is happening now is because of the sheer brutality of this right of your machine. people are waking up to this fact. the reason why they're passing this law is speak is because they're desperate. and i think it shows how this ravings and designed this lobby, which by the way, is there more christian scientists, as we all know, then jewish scientists and the many scientists who are secular. so this is, has nothing to do with do days. and many jews are completely against this genocide, and this really regime in the same is true with chris christians and others. but there's really what she doesn't care about the united states. it doesn't care. i oh yeah, she is willing to sacrifice the credit ability and the image of the united states

for its own sake. there's really prime minister says, crushed defense. and the crushed is that there's really regime calls on the united states to silence these pick. these young people and these people will be side of what does that have? as i said earlier, it destroys the united states image abroad. but it also destroys the image of the united states for the younger generation. young americans who were taught to believe that this was the land of the free and the home of the brave. now they are waking up to a reality, which is almost takes the exact opposite of what they were told. yeah. yeah, there because when they realize that they are brave but they're, they're governed by cowards. that's what they are coward. so okay. it's interesting, robert used to be up until october 7th is if that should be the center of everything. it was, it was an important day, but there's a long history before. but before october 7th, at least for the western world,

particularly americans that are intentionally unimed and educated about this is a, remember the phrase, it's complicated. that was always the just cause it's been going on along to its complement. that's no longer the case. people are being educated, they're educating themselves. it is easy to do that. and this is what the leads were afraid of. they were afraid of the truth. yes, they are the fact, the idea that this is complicated is just a method spend a minute perpetuated by us government officials and the very obedient media for decades. it isn't complicated at all. it involves international law and basic human rights laws and rights that are in trying and united nations that united states has signed onto, and united states as violate them rights as violating its own laws. lady law, for example, which says that a military aid cannot be given to a country that doesn't reach a certain minimal standard of human rights, is here it is real. comes nowhere near close to that. there are other domestic laws

that it, it violates there's a big complicate about this. this is not a religious issue. it is not the jews versus muslims at all. it is an issue of colonialism, of one very dominant nation, repressing a nation with no army. maybe no military whatsoever. and the dominant nation is supported by the most powerful nation on the planet. there's nothing equal about the, the conflict. it's not a war. it's not, it's simply a genocide. it's been a slow going genocide for decades as israel has attempted with some success to erase palestine by stealing land. just. busy as a member of palestinians in killing many thousands of them over the over the decades. so it's not that complicated about this and that narrative is finally finally being switched and being recognized for what it is, which is just a major lie. and it's not holding water anymore. you know, line one of the big problems about couldn't be controlling this narrative. what,

what's going on in god's, in, in the right to protest is that there's a lot of american jews involved in these protests here. and they just have a hard time explaining that away vinyl. oh, absolutely. and. and again, many people believe that there is this monolithic organizational. yeah, that you, you, you, you, you become a member of the club and this is your articles of faith. i gotta tell you this one, this is the best part about this. you're talking about people that i'm listening to . i thought i was hallucinating. i'm listening to michael moore the other night. i think he, oh my god, he makes sense. let me tell you what's gonna happen in about 6 months. there's gonna be the election and donald trump's going to win this thing and if he ever thank anybody, he'll say, i want to say joe biden. i want to think this ridiculousness because gentlemen, what's happening right now is people, especially in new york, are seeing, hey, that's what the police look like irrespective of what they're doing, whether right or wrong. but people are saying, you know,

we have been so bereft of this notion of law and order. and gavin newsome in california the governor who was supposedly up until just recently going to be the last and it could be the replacement. the candidate california is tumbling into the sea, is daily then with in tone. it is a cut pastor of feet and people are now saying, what does this sound like, peter? we always go back towards out to $9068.00 order law and order next in chicago. look at what people doing is you idiots. you so i don't know why. oh, i wish i could be that optimistic. well, i'm going to finish up the program with my home and here is that we have this unit party here. we have republicans and we have democrats here in there on the wrong these leaders are on the wrong side of history and i think that's what there's a class will be a societal class against the leads and got one minute go ahead. i think that's

a really important point. i think both of you are correct in the sense that trump will probably be elected. but i think increasingly people across the board are going to see that trump will be no different than biden. and that is going to create even further at this illusion meant among americans. they will see increasingly that the united states is not a democracy. it's one a despotic regime with 2 factions which agree on almost everything, almost every for exactly. well, unfortunately the, you know, this is a way if it's the election is going to be determined by donors and it probably will be, we're gonna find yourselves exactly in the same dreadful place gentlemen, that's all the time we have one to, thanks my guess is in kitchen or new york and, and come down and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our dc you next time. remember prospect the,

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