smart to present that stuff without collision, is that spelled part of the that checking and reminds me that i'm late for very important dates, which means it's time to slip down the rabbit hole in into a world of russian time pieces. this is peter hoff. one of emperor, peters, and greats. exquisite creations, showcasing luxury palaces, cascade fountains, and spectacular parklands. but few people know that is also home to one of russia's

oldest watch making factories. david henderson, stewart has been at the helm of his enterprise for more than a decade. so i'm going to ask him, what makes russian watch making text? the so david i have to, i guess, start with an esoteric question. the philosophers and scientists stay really cannot decide on what time is. one theory is the time was created by humans so that we could deal with our uncertainty. what is time to you and what are clocks to you? well times to me is one of the most important things and it was, i mean we pulled the money in the world. you cannot buy an additional seconds. and, you know, each of a subsidy can equal in front of time. and um, you know, when you look at so the history far on says this time was acreage time was given by sky. they looked at the sun, the stars at the moon. so it came kind of for them, it came from the gods. and it's the time we say course,

so i kind of from have the same feeling towards time as something does some very precious. and definitely one of the most important things started. we happen to wells with us as so we have and it was me. now when you started, i hear it, but i get that. you really didn't know anything about watches. now you were pretty much an expert. um, so what makes a kit the watch stand out to tech from a technical point of view? well, i can't say is much more than to watch it. i can't say is a history, and i can't the is brand that's intimately linked to russian culture. russian history and it's also the result of an incredible new how that is kept in under this roof, which otherwise would have disappeared. because you can always buy the machines in switzerland. but the new house is out solution incredible. these people doing incredible things with the hands, and the result is to watch without any bug fees, ships that are connected that's should always give the right time is just and

that's what caused that to interact and every single day, week, month, fee, uh uh, gives, gives you the time and there's something that's quite incredible. now, um, i've heard of an acoustic signature and i've heard that a lot can to watch has its own unique acoustic signature. what exactly is that, and why is that okay, to so unique watches, i know just watches move the hands, move around, the diode and watches make a sound also. and so what, she's very much like a living fussing. and it has a history, it's, it's, it's, it, the watch make it gives life to the, to the watch. and, uh, the watch that you were and your risk measures your, show your time. mm hm. and it gives a sound on the sound as you need it, because the watch is made with russian metal. mm hm. uh and uh, the rituals, the houses in construction. so the sounds is difficult for me to describe the sound, but i know it's unique. it doesn't look, it doesn't sound like the sound that this with which so okay,

what about the jewels and watches? um, when i think of jewels, i think of something that is decorative, but jewels for water and much more important to can you talk to me a little bit about what a drilled watch means? yeah, of course, every single which is which is depression, which is tons of using the mechanical movies i have on my wrist. 24 jewels. now. jewels, uh no, just beautiful gems. mm hm. jewels are also sort of a very important function. you should imagine like in, in, in the game tree there are lots of wheels with axes. and each ox rotates around is pivots, like sometimes $100000.00 times a day. and it, if it were a metal against my fault, it was very significant. you were out isn't so at the tip of every oxy have, but you said you really against the metal doesn't wear out just all sorts of some very important function. ok, that's very cool. something that i did not know. thank you for that. very few

people knew that there's a lot of people think like you, it's just extra to, i mean, that's a declaration, but it's not right. it's actually has an expensive very, very important. now what about um, use, what you do here is more than business. you say that it is a can to well cultural values. in fact, i've heard it in and review the use of it. what you do here is kind of like from the bookstore theater, can explain that. what do you mean by that? i mean, everybody thinks it's a business, it's not a business. a business is something which is aims to make money. get to so much more than not. you should imagine that it gets as a fund fee that has existed for more than 300 years. it was funded by jim per piece of the great. mm hm. and it tells the stories that folds incredible achievements of the service under brushing people who the conquests of space and brushing of on god and so on. so on. and what she does so doesn't seem peopled by what she has to read the time. now people by what she's because the gets emotions from the watch. and

the emotion comes from the mechanical movement, which is unique, which is the result of an incredible know how the story that the watch toes, the design and all of this is, is tremendously incredible. and look to my wife. she's the result of more than $8000.00 operations. you need more than the specialists to do this. i mean, it's not, it's the purpose of all of this is not to make money out of being much, much richer if i started to, you know, and i, to continue winston has come to wherever this is about something much bigger than that's the alexander brother and coffee has been collecting time pieces for half a century and now owns more than 6000 clocks and watches from different places and advocates within any known private collector in the world. the

. how did you get started? what is collecting watches mean to you? is it about preserving history? is it about the fascination with time? what does this collection mean to you? later on? yes, i'm 64 years old. you know, you pay for some people say soviet watches a what else to listen during changing that wrong. and we're, so we need to preserve all history, which i'm trying to do. i, it doesn't feel young people have no idea or about. and so if you had watches, which will actually amazing on what i've been collecting is a history of watches. that's out to say i 1st and then i collected antique timepieces before switching to soviet made one set there with no, it's a fascinating subject. i'm a member of the connect as club with a woman with the many years ago. wrote to me saying it's better to own 10 break, a watches, the bucket full of soviet mass produce junk because it was, i guess, go from just had no clue about soviet watches with, with what i want to do is help the next generation appreciate the beauty of soviet

watches, his concern, he really got his history is the legacy i want to leave behind checklist. i persisted. so you've mentioned you have more than 6000 watches. it's an impressive collection. and of these thousands, what are some of the most rare or the of valuable like half masonic fitness and the most rare and valuable ones as he is or if it was good. in fact, these watches have zodiac signs on the dials. yeah, you have cancer and so on, you know, can you think the zodiac sign has its own gemstone? okay, so we've got music. this time piece is also interesting. back with the if you look at the live is you can see it has a holographic crystal skeptical or is another remarkable piece. whether it's a dining wash from a factory museum, there with a with this while she has a unique movement, which was never mass produced because it was destroyed, you wouldn't, as soon as it was made 0 instead of what is the use of the renters watches. i have just the, i guess my final question is, how much was this all work?

have you ever had your entire collection appraised? how much is it all value that revise it? you know, this collection is priceless, sam, i don't even know how much it could be was because it's so unique. but it would be a lot of money because a lot of work that has gone into this collection. and you can find such a time piece as today, or they don't exist anymore. there was a woman who called me twice, offering me 50000000, so the collection would remain its guardian, but i would no longer be the other. it was unknown, started for me, you know, i'm 64. okay. and then when i been doing this my whole life, i just con, sell it to anyone who i'm sure it's my life. i don't want to change is that with? yeah, like collecting watches and you'll have it's, i enjoy the excitement and i'm really committed to seeing this through the scenario . and my goal is to have the biggest collection period on my side, but that's what i want. the money doesn't have the same appeal to me. i would think that what i enjoy noise being able to tell people about my watches. i want people

to know that our country maze all these wonderful things, the what are the qualities that you look for and, and watch make or what does one need to have in order to be like an exclusive about yet, the quality watchmaker, i would say the biggest quality that's a which mucus house is pushing me. um i uh, before discovering other cats. i was a lawyer. i was a banker. i never saw so much passion in the profession as what you mean because uh for them. and so much within the job is the passion, if, if the for life. mm hm. and when you're passionate about what's making, then old, you have the qualities flowing automatically, you know, precision and, and all of that. it's a videotape question. and what about you do you cannot be

a good, what's, what makes a, if not pushing it about to your about to making, which is i would say that that's true and all the way through, i guess what about you personally? what have you learned from watching, making you say that you were lawyer and a banker coming here. what have you learned about life in general? well, 1st of all, i've discovered 2 things. first of all, um i discovered the world of time and things like we, we talked about to submit your own. mm hm. i also discovered how, you know, we, we come from a wealth of the western wealth when we value, you know, people who succeed in life by being bankers and lawyers, and with us. and i discovered in this funk for you how incredible jesus was. uh, you know, when i see walkers is crossing it, people doing things with a hands that job is so much more difficult than even being a banker. mm hm. um, to become a good to watch me could take suitcase 5 to 6 years. and i was a huge challenge because there are new normal which making schools in rough anymore

. so we, when we high young people we, we created our own wish making so, and we, we freedom and it takes us 5 to 6 years to, to make, you know, especially something. so i've had it for months for specs. now full, full for these workforce work with their hands because they do out to these incredible things the, the sometime pieces can be spotted on the wrists of the world's rich and mighty take constantine check. and who's watching making is recognized by kind of source, as some of the most creative and original we can find out what's quite literally behind the face of it. the konstantin, thanks for taking the time to speak with us and to show us some of your work. now i see some sketches out here which fascinates me. i understand that before you start

any project, you start with a sketch in, in a time when we have a i, and computer enhancements. so why with a sketch? are you an analog person, per se? he's a sion of several of the many watchmakers and designers who rely on modem, 3 d modeling tools. so most who said use a, i think what i want though, is for my creativity to come from the how does it with me? but as if you need this direct link between my fingertips in my brain, when i transfer my idea around to a note that will canvas, my gimme a call start, such a must for me. that personally theater, where is the quickest way to sketch a new watching life? so now the outside design, the ornaments are one thing, but the inside of the watches, the mechanism itself. do those change from watch to watch or time piece to time piece, or is it all the same inside? and then when we describe a watch movement, we talk about it's architecture. when we look at different buildings and they're architectural styles, we certainly see some functional elements like the foundation and the post in the

ground. the was the windows and so on. a watch movement is a very functional mechanism as well. so we have a functional elements. i also meant to have aesthetic value to, even though some of the pots will never be seen by anyone except to watch, make a full service or have had the watch later that you're working with so many tiny parts to create the mechanisms or on such a small, small scale, very delicate work. how do you get such crash midship, the mathematics, correct? the parts? correct. some of them your manufacturing yourself. i'm sure. um, how does that all work together? have you do that here? probably a little is sometimes this kind of craftsmanship is described as jewelry. great. in fact, some watchmakers consider with almost an insult, almost to the precision you need for making jewelry, is orders of magnitude lower than what's required for mechanical launches of tests vo, question. we certainly need special measurement to instruments because the color and says in making about depend on the precision of our measurements. we have these

instruments as well as specialized machines, which allow us to manufacture high position pods to a total runs of several microns or several thousands of a millimeter. now, you've said that you've made the most complex timepiece in russia. what do you mean by that? is it complexity and number of parts? is it the intercourse in to intricacy, excuse me, of movement. so, what is the most complex time? police in rush side created both the most complicated table clock in russia and full recently the most complicated watch in russia as well. the past. yes, one try to in this a number of pods in the movement. for example, the moscow computers clock has 2506 pots in the movement alone. the wristwatch i mentioned has 664 pods and can use me for the complexity is also determined by the number of function that don't complication. so you should say you have the number of pods and the number of functions that can perform the bowl. so probably the number of new inventions in the time based on the background tax, and then this

a time, which is the most precious thing we have, that went into the crafting of a mazda base. ok, now you've also created the 1st to, to be on clock or time piece in russia. what exactly is that? um, am i correct in understanding that it's helps with the accurate accuracy? what is it to be on time takes? 20 years ago, i set myself the goal of creating the 1st a tube alone in russia in a table clock. last on usual goal was a challenge i decided to take upon myself to create the to him alone is a mechanism invented by dismissal. jamaica abraham louis, but i gave you 200 years ago. i should start with the purpose of countering the effect of gravity on the accuracy of a time. peace with the laws of physics hasn't changed much over the last 200 years . so one of the key components of a time based of 10 shows its accuracy is the balance wheel. who has access must coincide with its center of mass and none of them even now in the 25th century. we can't make it exactly so therefore, the jump of

a tub alone is to average out gravitational error and provide accurate time keeping stuff by some good works well in portable time piece is and is a great solution on the 8th and some of your designs are fantastic with um, extravagant ideas and thinking of the time piece that calculates the time on mars, as well as a time piece that calculates russian orthodox easter. i guess i have to ask maybe the most obvious question of who's the clientele for this type of watch? why would someone want to this type of a watch? my role here is primarily that to but not just to me knows no limits. this classical out like drawing or making sculptures. and what i do is the technical out to modest me the most working on extremely complicated mechanisms which calculate the distance between us and to boss full time on miles on the days of orthodoxy. stuff. obviously these have no practical sense these days in the same book. it's more of an autistic challenge for me. and so when you're talking about mechanical watches in general,

mostly today we're swamped with information and can check the time, not necessarily on a risk wash and put on a mobile phone and so on. you could say that the mechanical watch has essentially outlived its usefulness to them because they were just so many of it convenient devices that can tell you the time. so my work is primarily a creative process for me. you know, as a 1st, we do have all right in the space program, a system that watches the show, the time on miles will eventually be used by cause milledgeville restaurants, who will set foot on the red planet and the distant or not too distant future. they want to know what time it is, but the secondly, i'll watch these have been and still being used on the international space station and stuff. now, among the very few time paces that have been worn under a space suit by cosmos, during space walks by tomorrow. so there are a couple of specific examples of serious practical use. give others. mm hm. i'm commenting and let's talk about the orthodox easter time piece. because i've tried to calculate it with sasha, my editor,

it's very difficult. it's incredibly complex in terms of doing that. how do you go about creating something and the mechanism for something so complex. sticking in data rules for setting the data of orthodoxy, state well formulated in the middle of the 1st millennium hague d. it was defined as the 1st sunday following the 1st full moon off the casa many different algorithms for determining the date with her post over the next 1500 years with all that, i've taken it a step further. and also i came up with my own mathematical formula based on those algorithms, which then helped me to build a mechanical watch from audio history. yes, i've done that twice by the way, once for a model with optical indication released in 2005. my 1st launch for orthodoxies to the federal. i'd like to for a different mechanism which uses a hand to indicate the right data. and i'm proud to say that few watchmakers do innovative mass upon from classical mathematical calculations to help them invent new modules and the calendars. another thing that is now after say that the time of

my research, you had 94 patterns already. you're an artist, you're an engineer, and you have to be all of these things. um or what is your next big dream project? i guess commercial. i'm happy to say that we just go down 95th paint and i will reach 100 pages and soon enough, you know, at some point i began to see my work as a challenge and we're just trying to do something nobody else is doing and setting apparently unachievable goals, i'm not going to develop any secrets, but we do have quite a few very ambitious projects in the pipeline. you can trace this trajectory, looking at some of our previous achievements because frank wriggled of unusual and complicated watches. some of them related to space, exploration, nor other challenges and some not very practical isn't others quite practical. see me at the not necessarily needed today or next. yeah, that may be very handy and future. yes. what about your work and bring to joy and

brings you pride? what? what do you like? most of you do? unlike other phones about watch making is very complex and it takes a long time to create to watch. that's true, that it can be months and often years. okay. the big names, the movement of this clock. yeah. it took me about 5 years to build some of my latest, a complicated wristwatch is required to do as a more, almost at them add to that the inventions i had created before which went into those models skipped to commend you could easily say those watches with 10 years in the making sense, as you think it's a lengthy process. what brings me joy is the bus of a new time piece of view. it's great to have a new idea. it's nice to sketch something beautiful as it was. but when, having invested several years into a timepiece or the you see a boeing at last. so for me as a mechanical device, it has a life of its own. i'm at this moment your over whelmed with joy, with those the

kind of back to the esoteric a little bit. i'm an american. you are british. ah, but i've heard you talk about the russian soul is important and what you do here. but i've also heard from russian's event, there is no possible way that a foreigner could really fully understand. the russians also talk to me about the russian soul and the rocket to watch. how is it implemented? quote, 1st of all, what i kind of disagree. because when you look at the history from me, um starting with the to the great and then of to with lots of foreigners have come to russian like a lot of so far. and this house has of significant impact in the development of prussia over to over the overtime and the russian. so from you, well, i just got a discussion. so by reading those to you have ski in uh, in uh,

when i lived in engines is to me it was kind of a key pool with very tormented deep culture. decreased feelings. mm hm. which was very different from what on union dues, because english people are not like us. and we are thoughts too high, the shootings and no to have any feeling senior governors expression this difficult the. it means to us, you know, what, what way when people feel things are usually the opposite of starts moving. mm hm. well, we have thoughts and have a to show a few things. right? so that was very different from, from, from what i knew. and i was interested invite us and it does what drifting solis to me. i mean, it goes on goes back to those steps together looking definitely epsky. i like like many, many people read and he describes very well dis, afraid, jeep complications reference. so you've also said that watched anything in general would be boring without russians. so what did russians and bring in? what does russia bring to the table in the realm of watching me thinking it? i know the one who said that's okay, this is something that is to that is,

this is set to meet every time i grew to we participate in a big procedures course. exhibitions, engineering, for example. we have all of these new john dallas and which making experts who come to you instead. thank god you do exist because otherwise the world unfortunately can, would be much more boring if there were when you switch switches. and when we bring is a different construction of the movements. mean movements, i'm moving with the russian movement looks like a system movement, but it's construct, it's completely different key. and another kind of design. um, what just tell them very different his history or school story. and so the russian watches are very different from what you find is what simmons and people in the watch making world of caution. that's about 4 inches. mm hm. so they're very happy that we think we bring some fresh to, to a well, that would be otherwise dominated by switch, which is the,

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