to react the welcome to was a part of the conflict in ukraine has opened up a new chapter in russia's relations, not only re key for the west, but also with many other countries near and far. the former soviet republics are particularly sensitive both to the risks on the premium scenario onto the opportunities that, that do a strategic location allows them as to shifting bolts or how skillful all day in playing the cards. or to discuss that i'm now enjoying by,

by been especially most executive director of the center for a strategic solution. so i've looked at the end of this done by sure is question because i thank you so much for your time and i'd like to stop by addressing the names or organizations like yours to me feel very ambitious of your family. many countries today find themselves with an implant sanction between great risk and major opportunities, and that's the tense, the need to make some genuinely strategic decisions plus more than. so let's start with a symbol of a philosophical question. what does it mean for you to think strategically? let the what kind of skills or expertise does it require and you're probably aware of the suspended because that's a difficult question to do. mike 1st i'd like to point out that what we have is more than just tense efficiency tech solutions. so it's about tonight's statistic solution. yes. so there's more than one dimension to it from our school to apology because we know about it x and y axis issue. but something gets about the 3rd one, which is that access is any otherwise known as the 3 of the most in the 2nd one in

it's practical sense, the circle. yes, great. they must into 2nd to assess and starting point the always, but it's the 3rd accessing that provides objectivity like that, which is why in any strategy, the important thing is to see the full picture and the nice something you get by looking at it from the to me as an ideal, patrick category, that is the only good has access to objective for you on the take the certain use. anyway, so look at politics or do you politics? how does that apply raffles if you so to finally take a look. yeah. for it, it's got some idea of what you know if there's a technique and much much it's called the maximum likelihood estimation. it's a monthly months cool method of estimation. when you deal with a strategy with strategic decision making in this town. and then even to quote, to rely on the maximum likelihood estimation, you get the much so my number from the bundled, in other words, because you need to arrive at the formula which takes into account. and most of the relevant effects is you know, to see the picture as it is only for chase. and this is how you direct you over. let's go strategy a quick. apparently he's not trying to disagree with music here,

but don't you saying that this is something that small and medium sized countries always have to deal with almost because the most important country on the planet danica states, the hedge among the rates and the principles that perception is reality goals, whatever you perceive to be real, it's real, what sort of what the reality is on the ground. yeah, it is a secondary improvement in this a. but what matches, what is what we want to say he did. is there a distinction here in terms of the size of the country or the level of edition mr. or do you still saying that everyone has to deal with reality to set an extensive? oh, that's a good question i just was thinking about. and yesterday, if i leave that there is no such thing as of the truth. 5 of the less formulated on one single consonant. because the strategies boys based on the nation's interests. we all have 2 different interesting classmates. and it's important to understanding the strategies can be hard, obviously cold, or they can be proactive. all they can be passive, would weights prosecute them in the, in this case the,

so the russian strategy over the past few years. so you also have what i call like to 0, to touch, to always been a proactive strategy. what's the annual cost? let's take a look at what it says, especially since you're next that on central asia you. i think we can agree that regardless of any wants to political views, if you have questions, ministry campaign and ukraine was came as a major. sure. going to be into a post service region including follow that mess up. i'm frustrated. so let's go past off. so of course you could go to some water on seemed impossible. it's no reality. you can switch and this has already started to affect the nose on the planet with you. but i'm a 31 year to one. yeah. would you say this has changed even close to the central asian countries to building their international relations, but i across the board. so i see as in uh, some content in a little much, absolutely here. uh, across the much in the central asian complements of the valve cover. cool. but we once again heard the famous asian formula. anything else i can know makes very cold, cold and things hello there police be. and despite all the alarm is a trait,

both is measured, intensive to say, i'm using a least within the range and economics unions. media within this. yeah, yes, i'm good. and you mentioned that to be honest, i don't really like the name and commonwealth of independent states, and i promise them this. we don't the, the, some of the role. so independence is not to be a state 100 itself. and them, the law was still in front of this is a 100. we were down by history. the grandchild, i missed the culture, was the youngest in littleton, all calling from covers everything in this world is relative, especially in dependence. so speaking of the shop who preferred so yes, it really was a shot one. bu the enough to the global shock came off my medical globe. i never shop. it's gotten to shop after 4 can use it, but we can only see the money, especially cells in various ways. oh, what post conflict over this time at the very end of the hassle, 2 and a half years. see, and then we'll choose and we've all learned to listen to here one another. all right, so it comes with a need to turn out to be an invaluable scale. the skill to imagine time is the biggest dreams dressed as

b u. so the cool was light to visual school studies. i think that even in soviet times the central asian culture of governance. so they wrote chris politics. i says, or substantially different from say that you create in political co turn script, one of district one put on your car trust now, but i'd say they have just the opposite in your situation. if someone comes politics and code economics, if you look at the present period, the cause of some yes, how i would like to ask you was if i may put it this way, is the main lesson freelance from the cleaning of those for the central asian countries as but i'm going to send you book through they are to an, an infection of major global of the political interest for you to look you up. mr. luciano of coding. sorry, well, listen, we cannot be in josh. and at this moment on the menu items, because we are still inside the process. but the other side can only repeat these words and the floors and it's still very difficult say anything about these less of them. so why move? because the situation is still in full swing by them and we're in the middle of it, the deductible and show us store. all i can do is be the we will the say that the

conclusions are getting the withdrawal and make effective will already learning something useful to the lesson of season, for example. and i'm pretty near, for example, i can see that the configuration after the collapse of the soviet union. so you lose no final ease and until it's impossible to account for all interests, fee and break comes of a country like the us a saw if is not the same, is that breaking a mirror to so as to when you go the front to principal, i need chart remains the reflection of the st. mary's because of the school. and we did sit on the other thing and we have with the soviet union to think this was in the case. so to be as to the, the for the several ways of looking at how to move forward. gotcha. as often you get something as soon as you either try to reassemble them error or recognize the child non existent kind of language, cool, full, what do we do? then with the reflection, the silver because what do you see it show online specialist, i'd say, and one of the roads because he said that unlike the former public, so the serving union on the west and board. and so what the central asian republics treat this to be a positive for the 1st one will imagine including 3,

the russian language differences in the more utilitarian practical way. in a sense, a couple of cars. it's at the do you think that this is mostly the case among viewed a generation or is it post on the guiding image? so the key are, those are pretty bad notes. uh, i don't show that this could be switched on the store because the average system is essential agent speaking russian and being of an opposite versus a position is also a guarantee that they can get a job is that they will be able to feed themselves on the families and so there's that to the prod, scholastic millennium, distinguishable but from the practical aspect it is often the most importantly a months of pragmatism. the same is true. for example, when it comes to the most economic success of southern countries, the bottom of the bridge is going well. the thing with it is directly related to somebody. the english was scanned as a secular language in an official language. the wounded. this thanks to the people from south asia, for example, you could integrate quite successfully in such a size, say the all the way up to the lead,

the lights go in the may of london or the prime minister of do you can, you need the, uh, the runs the me see a comparable scenario in the soviet union and the central center, in fact a. so the centrifugal process started not that long ago. i shall send you the steps 3 years ago with a few weeks before that was the russian language of blaze. an important connection back to the central asia. i may as easily if it is, you know, anyway, an into civilizational glue, only blog under the same time. it is part of the underlying framework in the bones . chair, security at the ups comes all the trucks. you know, it worries me here because of course, it seems to me that in the, creating an issue language, culture, right. and some historical ties have been treated as mary. i do not play the flute in the practical aspects of life lesson, which is simply advantageous for having good relations with neighbors, like the square. what do you think crated policies returning to relations with the state? and is it more visible today? that's what you have. you know, for the social i've been involved in issues if you ration integration from quite

some time to be assigned, i want to say that without purpose, calcium fragmentation of su everything. and once you, fortunately turn into and see where this one is, the weights and this is what it's called, integration of a lead us up till these processes are filled with the concerns of ordinary people. see people at least business interests. that is, when the economy begins to work for the common good to come today tumbling the commission only. and then when we say that the space will not be destroyed, how most them go at each. i would also like to say the medium of the training cases, unique facts and they see, you know, being i would not apply and to the rest of the post office space and office to make space dollars easier as a scientist. the and i need to compare too many books on the corner of the bottle. this is the pivot to the east that russian political scientists have been discussing for quite some time. this was because i'm sorry, the nearest east. a bus stop on it doesn't have to be getting to take shape and they asked me including the central asia that to me. but correct me if i'm wrong. but it's the same to me that the russian government has become much more sense

instead of like to have even said what to expect for, and maybe more even accommodating and its relations with its neighbors. especially those neighbors that us to teach, very important. who is the same thing we've got for a what, how well, all of these is acknowledging, received and understood, and the central nation capitals to that. and as we have to get started from the central asia, realized that it apparently has liberal symbol rings. and the things they shouldn't have bought, including in the eyes of russia, the yes, use the group and the understanding that it's on notice the just about taking the funds to the situation, but also about restoring and what was the one these of the most of the slides isn't party to conduct the machine regarding russia and it doesn't spend all this he focusing on asia ma. uh yeah, i would say the following is the other issue, but lot of the time to have it to the east is not quite accurate and why i think was 2 thirds of versus surgeries and major areas. there is already one of the large states making sure everything is good. where would you be the if you're already an engine country? what actually, what's the city we use the jobs coast on the flipping well then,

since you graphically true across the how well you know very well that many russian elite and co, trudy said towards leap, and i need to know maternity consider themselves called here. yeah, i wanted to ask you about the stuff on cars to with that then boy. yeah. do you think the more willing rhetorical or live and what day jason? primarily defensive. the community like here doesn't really welcome as so way to asia for your students. it guys in english for the goal, or is it an authentic and process that includes rushes deep, self identification somewhere? it isn't difficult. so what i see would be, or someone in the customer is like where she is. so i mean, i agree with, you know, most of the degree approach from the perspective of looking at both ways. what the problem assumed that lies the headed ego on the good funds, which those both easy. never fun. westland uh, more yeah. however, to see, i think we are currently in any unique period returning to this self identification, the, the realization of a special you, asian pos, whether you're in the west of galaxy and wine, which is the most split to this. again, you shouldn't be palletized. so it is necessary to understand ourselves. so again,

an agent centricity, i'm going to be in one of my articles i've described several days just like a rush. i, you know what i see? broadly speaking, the is the mythical expense. far away. fairytale under major. and there's our own asia located in the far east to inside. marian. yes, even in the cook says there was a talk to an agent. oh yes. a put on the asian because the central asia from bradley, which i referred to as middle aged and me as a did, we need to move the goal. one of the re, things not being afraid to venture into dead ends or engaging debates, especially about thank you. for mentioning the web sales it because the search bar associated is always a very complex process. one never starts with do made solutions, is that the image and i but we do have one ready solution right now. i think we need to take a short break, but we will be back in a few seconds and you'll stay with us. so at this moment, the

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[000:00:00;00] the whole complexion holds a parts with a but bare crushing of executive director of the center for strategic solutions of like cut the in kind of gets done. mystery came up before the break we were discussing worship is to pivot or realisation nursing position of these uh, it says no one you submitted one that has been in the last book in north washing 3 oriented to east possible. it seems to me that central asian countries are increasingly look the, the way i've come in this area is up with a personal, regardless of the kid,

might be able to assess summit essentially asian leaders with the us, the president, the shaw president, mac crohn, also visited the region but what do you think central asian countries are seeking in their relation to what the west was up, but they will, is the west seeking and its relations with them? what follows. so good question. those into the same round with documents isn't pragmatic. you with them because for russia that i, central asia is body bolts you to as demographic potential us william demography just can put the solemn news. we've already reached hoffer versus population, and the growth rates, and quite high the such and over 40 of them were students. i believe, the single region, nearly a 100. many people pulled. meanwhile, other countries, opposite impulses lies and natural resources, commodities, motor geopolitical considerations of chest or the ministry aspect. yeah, it, the funds were framing this and into a politics i've just regarding natural resources. everything is clear often and supplies, for instance of cuz there's tons of oil and o u,

radium gas gas from to administer on gold. it's quite an extensive list. what was the solution about fund china has a unique interest in this region. what is a neighbor going to if you look at it that way the board has 3 central asian country. so i'm, i'm interested in how many aspects of incorporation, because they might be including reducing essential tensions related to as long as it can stream is, which is a concern for china that was cool. so sure. on the us, we often use this region as a tool to refresher. i started to naples, namely russia and china, who is through meal the, the source of you about what's the in the costs, are you, is it the trans flush and the remains of trails. so please, well, unfortunately it's definitely the 2 deals. are they ready to text me once and continue following it? so it's just as a business eroding or huntington and the clash of civilizations, and they, you rented at the universities and the follow this template. this thing will use this in football, sorry to keep the world has changed as

a means smoke. so the while already mentioned to somebody to centralize indeed his health. i bought it new york city by the maybe button is reading the same textbook or but deletes in central asia are what i hear me. and so i knew the know upset of the events or the region more closely with maybe with a great to understand of history. sometimes the odds case around the central asian country is ready to be tended to a tool or separately and for american policy. in this region to consecrate body to care for them to join you. who is the more you know when you come, i think no one will be pleased to realize they are born and someone else has gave me a good grace. seems comfortable in this role for now. hold on the bottom. i think the by the 4 should create a new clue. understanding of who did you like as collides is on to the agent is a subject and object so probably makes life easier. what do you agree when you, my understanding is the historical continuity and an inch connectedness is needed. somebody says the population going to start is because if you make mistakes, leave so loose, people will just in your lives the nation. this matter was we are now seeing and

the case would be great and case. so i'm bringing the muscles in all cases. i'll repeat, everything is going well to stay with population growth rate show that people are looking towards the future. the despite everything, we're not stuck, no standing still unless you have to be a good let me see my system, boom boom. because if it was thunder of living with the folding owner for this knowledge of the exchange, you actually old live country in the region. things going well in this regard long and so for so used to so natural and sensible aspirations. be allied with those who listen here and making usually acceptable when with decisions for youth. maybe out of my uh at the right spot for the taking towards a demo for a month with this. definitely. oh, let me see 5 plus walmart dimensions was the 1st we launched by the japanese. and if i remember correctly, i sions all of it. uh, mostly there was a part of the system. all the other countries interested in this region picked it up more people. only a few players have attempted to turn things around and go to a bunch of the country. is it that kind of puts good use search?

my says project isn't history and it's connecting this in the region. i probably will flush a china india and the underwriter on, by the way, you wrote that both structure in china, which i would say central asia itself is not the west that i know nonsense, high west or the new. i would call that in utah over space. for 3, for the west, some hedge, monique, on board and, you know, completely cut off and you know, the cli, oregon, politically and culturally from europe. or even the us, not the even open of the business to show and disregard these things. these countries couldn't pay a cushioning or even a breeching role, but when the collects of west and i'm like, no say the collective they used to be about z for which is old. so coming together in some way, miserable souls. this is a complicated issue because because when we see how the global will be changing so much that on the $100.00 and some that is true that we're dividing, it won't do political as do you know it's a lot of money, which is a normal process is always good only on the other hand, interactions are still ongoing. it does sometimes certain surgeries,

this country is low groups of countries cannot cause a dummy. the only free edition is from sometimes even is oh, it's the hub, which does include in this case, was up to the advisor 0. 222 came into play. that's what the trait turned over to the central asian countries. and then you have the, the us and japan is go many folding rituals. so everyone is aware that we are re selling these codes to russian with the blood know, sanctions undertaking the games because of the global level around the i see if it's a known as the central asian countries are especially on the sanction. yep. just there were some private companies that have been slots with certain restrictions. you know what that's about engine morning. if we were playing the game sold, existing rules, they would like the create more progress for us. so yeah, i know that the key. yes, we went on the moon, but as it stands we have public demonstrating that not only as long as was much like dialogue, shipping continue. okay, but how do i, how do you say, and one of your speech is good up on the cube, let's go that does interest in central asia, if you chose know,

comparable to that of the 21st century. when the americans enter the scanner level of the for the need of the spring board, a so called little pad grace in the region while young. how interesting is the region to freshen china in terms of this ministry potential? it's designed as the few decades ago. they were interested in the militarization has anything changed on this front of william from a military logistics point of view something central asia is uh, as the american say would you think that just combine that. what you like them because they need it for americans. oh for everyone's almost everyone. why? because of what we see is a disadvantage for us and we for the fact that we have more to know access to the c in this kind of hotline region. so it is a very inconvenient region for large scale and mutual variations was, especially in terms of military logistics anyway, and they were used to get on, you have to cross many board, is there a line at logistics you could reach? so you, so you mean implemented convenient for waging war so that's why we can pain and if

get a stand up to keep exactly the case of i've done this on demonstrates that the, whenever the bikes done chose, what do you notice to give a green light what do you, whatever reason, choose the traffic was rerouted via a central asia. well knew when that was impossible, not so without trying to sit through the person surgery to do want to see if you did that one. hi, renee. multiple. the supplies with the live in to get this done by russian rail and use of code based on whether railways ended on the supplies has to be reloaded onto the truck, specifically shell compound. but then when you book about the scale, you could easily choose a country. what is that old like? us and the inspection and all those roads. but it was quite amazing to actually see the in terms of logistics for the military. half of the united states was at least much to 80 percent and what ended on versus goodwill, hope so. and yet on the absence of a full scale, well under this, so that form of control is not the same as phrase as a full scale development or you ration integration. i think that's what the certificate just to be on need in order to finally make transition from the current

state or not. that nice. no road to something more track the way i feel really cards in there. right. so, you know, it's a formal one, this kind of approach probably was a phone is not going to work. now it's a move. and i think it's because i already mentioned the disintegration, the process that leads to formation of small or to a political blocks is already under way. as i said. and we'll probably go through what is your wife's alongside the lens and the coming decades when i see whether you want it on, on the book i will need show our lines is or show on season muscles, where depending on the situation with who really will school in columbia to don't yeah. it's speaking of the ration inspiration and so we didn't, we only have time for one more question. now, when you mentioned the media pat, so now wondering whether you asian economic integration isn't possible without here a single minute. b of this development of the ration space possible through the local westwood field and through the foot of the regional plaza. wordpress. what would be your owns to this question uh you know,

of. so with the years or the way you would be the best possible without your a pull the west. um, why have you as well? but for me, because i see a huge strikes along the track with the free trade. so in agreement between the ration economic union and china. yes. and what kind this looking even recently signed with around them? yeah, he's lawyer also see prospects in the shanghai corporation organization. okay. it's going to be the so thing going to going a certain kind of a reset process though, involved launching new financial instruments such as the seo button to start with on to a computer. and we, and that was a new building, a space is stretching from the city of arresting batteries as opposed to products as you, somebody pos dogwood to would you let us in fact, one of the east and most of the china is own provinces, which needs young boys, which is probably the way to speak of assistance, at least more than that in most of them. and i believe this is the direction of the follow to because china and india is keep together account hostile. well, just keep plugging the inverse your own east on still waiting on this trying,

you know, so losing you pretty good. i don't kind it's going to be a win win situation for both sides. no, just the one way street buffle. go. ask of them who stayed could involve a new stage when to start developing to move the central asian countries as we try to get pressure tends to expanded social economic because rather do is collect integrity r c. in order to ease the tension around the situation with laven migration is central asia. best buy, it would make sense to use the kind of approach the soviet union of the lines. familiar involving industrial, agriculture, and development of these territories has been resolved. the climate is very good, so i'm gonna go to that. no, but that one, this kind of development. so service wise question by investment was, was that which is why was most certainly used to collaborate. china, it was more than i'm supposed to be with india and to run to run such a large scale infrastructure to contact my staffing and for industrial, agricultural development, emotionally. e, and that's fine. we'll see a completely different well done room and will be called stay assume you raised integration will become something much bigger with something on a much higher level that's gonna provide me with disease. came to grab the

naturally produced results on a different scale. well, i guess time will tell her by thank you very much for your time. thank you. and thank you for watching hope to sir, again on walter part of the the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the or is the case of the med, most of the people. i tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon. this is the 3rd world lunacy re washing, press 4. so the funder line likes to say,

we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deals. what are some of the moving on? we have very quick propaganda. you know a price appear in your i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask a better. the answer is, will be the on march, the 22nd 1943, doing the great petri. i'll take the shirts and munch fatality and $118.00, run down the better receiving village of clotting around to ship us some person. if i did the wish to be loaded into the luxury is scenarios because a lot of changes to this one, most of the stuff for the world to pony it to you. $149.00 people died, including $75.00 children of age was practically wiped off the face of the law. new blue loves are a little bit lit option. could of charlie was, you know, just where you put us bottles. oh,

shoot. was hard really. i really usually don't you feeling, you know, so the infamous battalion responsible for the atrocity it included over $100.00 ukrainian national is from west to new. right? because of the picture. all right, and so i'll see you guys far as the new e phone, that's a lot of those to you just by soon. you know, i'm with them. you as customers to meet with the d. classify criminal cases from the central archive of the k g. b, a better rules shed light on the atrocity announced a numerous questions that have remained an onset for many years. watch on oxy

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