tv Cross Talk RT June 9, 2024 10:00pm-10:31pm EDT
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a but yes, the hello and welcome to cross dot bullhorn john peter a little here we just got some real news. president joe biden news the d day commemoration. so call for war rather than piece. and the european elections, are they less then useless to discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess george, send me while we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the guy goal, which be found on youtube and locals. and of course in merrill cash we have martin j keys and award winning journalist and commentator, or a gentleman cross type roles that affect that means can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. part of sir i with georgia in budapest, you know, joe biden is really the most most unremarkable. president's probably ever in
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american history. but he deviates from his own remarkable mis by being remarkably bishop and the adf anniversary of the dna landing on june 6th of this year. he gave an appalling speech. let me just read this a little bit of what he said. they've suffered tremendous losses. russia, the numbers are staggering. 350000 russian troops dead or wounded. nearly 1000000 people have left russia because they are no longer c as future in russia. he went on and on, and i thought this was to commemorate the death of those that landed in normandy and it was the triumph of the west of the soviet union. and what was called the allies, the triumph over naziism. he didn't make any really, any references to such things. george. that's exactly right. because we have
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already become accustomed to the western habit of ignoring the soviet contribution to the victory in world war 2. i mean, that's not a given every time they have these come immigrations, but by who went a little bit beyond that, of course he made no mention of anything that went on in the east and find needless to say, he made no mention of operation by garcia on lawrence, at the same time, to relieve the pressure from the westman allies. but he went beyond that to use this occasion. does he say to celebrate the deaths of hundreds of thousands of russians? but so he claim um, and to mobilize the west against russia, a sofa he bought, he was saying, is that those a young american man, those ranges who landed here? 80 years ago, they, they would want to go on to fight against the russia today. you know, this is
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a good, extraordinary sort of federal ara guns on his, bob to speak on the the hub. but it's also a disgraceful this marching of this occasion because he used it to call for war. it's supposed to be the celebration of the end of all that this brought the war to an end as well. the media talked about, oh, we invoke the spirit of ronald reagan in 1984 to look at reagan speech in 1984. he talked about ending, we'll use that occasion for go, but up upgrade. it is the n word and that we should never find was a game bind. it's only very different, as you say, is very divisive. and to use this occasion, nicole who is really nothing short of just absolutely disgusting. yeah, and, and mark it is, it is biden's war. this isn't the lead toward, this is something that is being pursued against the wishes of the populations of, of what they call now western europe and the in the, in the west in united states,
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canada. and so forth here. so if this would have been a remarkable opportunity to talk about, instead of i'm calling for greater, greater depth of war about talking about security. i looked at his speech very carefully, there's nothing in reference to security. and this is what this conflict is all about. it's not about ukraine. it's about pan european security, which biden. and his, um, uh, circle and you know, the europeans as well. refused to face up to martin. yeah, it's is disgusting as joe says, but i think it's, it's also a new, a new level of desperation from by doing that. he's not really somebody who's an interesting piece. he's a little longer. it's been very clear he's, he's really showing this that and in this, in this time it office and live the depths of the product to i think it's just staggering. you know, we're looking at the administration now. it's going to be remembered for decades to
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come for the thousands of children killed and gaza. you know, um, full disingenuous, if not disgusting, to faced a narrative that was coming from biting about these revenues about wanting them to stop the will. and yet, you know, just this week we seem to the floating p a is actually not about helping put cousins a to it's about some of the military operations. and, you know, i think when to get him to take this opportunity to, to not to reflect on the greatness of defense and, and to be respectful to those who died on, on those shows. but to actually turn in some payoff and event. i don't, that's going to many sizes in there. i believe in yourself is not gonna be remembered for that. let's, let's, let's face it, you know, we, we are all driven now by a very, very short attention span. social media is really the thing this. so it's the important thing that we will remember and used to come him trying to sit down and imagine reach or we'll see posting wind or even deprecating. i don't know,
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you know. and he was quickly a school to the way by jill looked like and not be changed to me. he'll be remember for that. he'll be with the, the, i think the iconic video clip will remember about some news to come is the full understanding that job. i didn't turn him around really slowly. i'm looking in the opposite direction and the 3 other slowly following him till being the last one. you know, the mind crumbs kind of slowly turned around this really, really multiply some sketch to, to look the other way. first will be great, but good point martin. i mean charge to me. you know that this was of the liberation of europe. ok. mean this is, this is a european, a commemorative event. and where are the europeans? i mean, we, we've seen over the last few months, they, those wanting to get as close to biden in his position as possible to be even more aggressive than the biding administration. and then by ministrations pretty aggressive right now. i mean it's me would be,
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this was the source to be about to say to bureau, but they seem to advocate their responsibility for europe. i mean, what good is your ability experience with this complet? go ahead, george. no, none whatsoever. i mean, way, when you look at uh, in terms of security, in terms of, uh, economic well being in every way your of has done disaster sleep out of the world. and, you know, we've got, unfortunately, you know, the number of states. so that'd be inducted into one of these european instructors the you and they, so cruise one goal seems to be to start conflict with russian white. why that is, it is a mystery, but a little baltic states and, and poland and then doing so. so, you know, some of the, some of the a stage by such as were mania, they just want to stir up conflict with russia. and then we have the united kingdom, which again, just seems to have completely gone off the deep and,
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and once a will with russia. and again, you deal with this. the whole point of having these sorts of occasions is the celebrate the end of a war. that's just a, that's the way we did this. you know, it's now many years behind us. and we're now no going to do this again. it's not supposed to be that's mobilized for another war. and, and so, at this very moment here of, you know, by the who's now of the, apparently a given look at the go ahead to use american weapons on russian search it to kill russians. and what's the response from europeans? i don't know, even just those men sometimes get, oh, this is too little too late. you go to the internet. i'll allow these weapons to be used deeper into a russian territory and provide a lot more so that we can kill a lot more russians. what on earth is that go to do with any kind of a, a come member ration of the end of a little while?
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of course it hasn't the, so that's a they were here now mobilizing for it's not and it will give and the given that we're now getting ready for you martin, but simultaneously you, as those events were unfolding we had bite and also a speak to the french assembly simultaneously, there was a form going on in saint petersburg, where vladimir potent was question for a for hours on end. does it usually gives the opportunity to, in domestic and foreign media, the number of feelers that have gone out over the last few weeks. i mean, it, this is wilfully ignoring what's going on to both of you this, this, this event and, and in normandy, could have been a very interesting opportunity to address those. feelers ok, as the end of fascism in europe is commemorated. how should we, how can we make the european continent safe? again, that would have been an opportunity. they miss it intentionally martin,
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they did miss santa she, i don't. unfortunately when you use that word fascism, there's a certain irony to the end. all right, so we'll talk about that in the 2nd half of the program. keep going. all right, yeah, there's some of, you know, we've some, at the same time m, scott richard wasn't allowed to get on a plane and goes out for them. and it was, you know, and these are the kind of things that we've been hopping on about for decades about countries from the east, you know, who not having a such democratic values as us. but now we're doing the same, you know, now we've become those countries and nothing, not the scope. richard incident was quite a stock reminder that we're going backwards. we're losing our democratic freedoms. we're becoming much more to classic. and the whole thing about the day um do you know binding and all of these gold leaves are standing around and banging on the drum about will is there is now a conspiracy. it must always west of the lease to crank up different expanding to creates a sense of panic, sense of fear. so the people perhaps comfortably
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a taken by the hand to a place where they don't normally want to go and show the stories by the media. but they wouldn't normally look at disregarding some of the bigger stories of, you know, governance, pull, governance, that time, you know, it gets swept under the carpet. this is what is really all about. it's about feeling hungry, and i think come, it was a real, real shame. what button did you know? i talked about and ukraine and then you know, it was a lot for me. it was very disrespectful and everything it, when it went to lend skis, the sentence gets hunting up in his usual kind of coats. kind of a glad rag notices you know, so colombo, the, whatever. he is the most of the existing site or, and considering the political forces that have surrounded him of the political coloration. and if you get my drift, okay, and having someone like that they are not talking about the i'm to what i'm talking about, respecting all those people have died. you could have at least pulling up the website . he was a crusade against fascism cops come in the soviet union and the liberal west join
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forces the destroy fascism. ok. any was of fascism on that stage is, is it's soiling history of george knows what i mean here, george. but we have before we go to the break here, maybe this will be the year, the people, the historical memory will be, but the soviet union was the enemy of the west and the 2nd world war. do you think that's possible? absolutely. it's possible to look at the bites of speech. he's great, he's pretty much saying that the war against hipaa goes on and it's a, you know, and it's the same war as the one against the fulton and russia. he's very much made the case that it's, it's, it's the same war and we've talked about this before, that there's a very rapid revision of history english somehow that lead the mobilization of the european continent that people had attempted against the soviet union is actually a worthwhile project and it's just that, you know, they were asked me to hit the not acceptable,
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the front of the track. where are you at the french press reporting and it was a 1st step. normandy, was a 1st step. very interesting. not mentioning this will be an experience at all gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on somebody on interstate with our team, the the, the, the, the,
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welcome at the prospect bull horns and peter level here, we're discussing some real news mark, let me go to you and merit cash again. we have um, um, as we speaking right now, the polls are closing across europe, but with european parliamentary election. and there is a lot of parties, lot of alliances, you know, and it is all in the number of countries are out there. i think i actually took some notes here of 450000000 people are eligible to vote. um, probably less than half will. who goes to the selections. okay. because i bet you well, um and you know, at george, i bet you, you know, if you went and walked around budapest after this and say who, who represents us in the, in the european parliament, i bet you nobody doubts 0. martin who votes in these elections, the people who vote and he's elections traditionally have always been people who are passionate about the european union ideology, the project and the e. u. a leads most this really doesn't want elections and we want to for elections . it would do what will study a whole bunch of does, which is false,
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people dislike legally. so if you didn't thought you get, find that you would never do that because if you force people to vote, you would find a very, very low turn out full. the conventional big pell of books and european panama, which is the, the christian democrats. and the socialists, you know, those are really the 2 big groups that controlled everything in the open problem. and so what happens is you get a high turn out for people who are passionate about you, but for one of those 2 blogs and you get a low turnout for all the of the independent. so all the things that dislike american crime bearings, it's only the true believers that go out and vote is, it's not a true believers, but it is changing. this is important point. it is changing. and the last couple of european elections, what you're finding now is that people using the you elections as a protest vote, so that are included school situations around countries of that process, but it is always full, right? that doesn't necessarily mean people believe in the far right. and so, you know, for them the, i mean, p vote is a throwaway. but anyway, they don't believe in the project. and they think that, you know, there's
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a normal amount of corruption from this autocratic organization which is anti democratic anyway. but, so it's a fairly broad, it's a protest foods. you just take the flow right group. i think we're going to see the next couple of days. i think this is going to be unprecedented. this time around i think is going to be very high number people who are protesting. can you bring up an interesting point and this is something i think when i look at other european parliament and actually it's also to some degree, george you have, you look at them, german elections, you know, they, where you have people voting. however, it's defined right far right, or right is there is a protest vote. i mean, but at what point is there a tipping point where it's, it's more than a protest vote because you mean what you can, we can turn this all upside down. you know, it's a throwaway, but it doesn't really matter. but for a lot more and more people, this is the only way that they can actually express their opinion. so they can cut both ways. we'll see what the results are. george having us. right. and i think model makes a very good point that the people well who actually show up to vote all the ones
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who are you in? susie asked. and so there it's, it's a kind of a, a lopsided the devote that. uh so, you know, we often expect, well this in this election the fall ride will do well, they may do well. i mean, that's a, it's a possibility that but in i, i suspect that they won't do as well as we expect, simply because i think they have they vote does it just not going to show up. and then ultimately is because the european parliament is really a fraud. i mean it's not really a parliament in any meaningful sense or not completely fund buddies over at bonham . and this was the legislative that'd be that that's a problem. and so supposed to do, but the, you follow them and read it doesn't, legislates the, the european commission and then the european count him. and these are those members of parliament really well compensated. george i so they are extremely well compensated which is which itself, it will scandal and participate. but there is this institution that really has no.
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busy power, although then essentially to act as a rubber stanfull the decisions made by the, the european commission and the european council. so, but the, any of these are extremely well compensated. uh and, and, but it will cost a lot of money, you know, having all that building and they, you know, having busy, but they also have them do a lot of work. i think they only show up by saying 2 to 3 days a week. so in georgia, they are, let me throw this door. i mean, they like to have these great, um, uh, expressions of our grades, you know, we're going to equate this with this. and, you know, they make these big, historical pronouncements and all that, you know. and then i'm sure they go to the, the went bar afterwards and celebrate, but nobody really cares what they do. know, but doesn't george stuck on the very good point. it is a rubbish dumping organization. i mean, what you can remember is when the, when the architects is a european union, and then a schuman and spin any set up, the whole project to the base,
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the goal to make it democratic. but it's the idea of the european problem was a both on last minute idea because they sort like gold we put on, we go to have a nice to pretend so some, so democracy here. so let's create a problem and you know, and really that's really what the emmy's piece do. the big part of the job is just simply to rather stump tweak a little bit, but ultimately robust. i'm a mazda from out of draw for legislation which is pumped into it every single day from the european commission. that the everything question didn't do that. if it's, if it's somehow stream lines, the number of draw food is less than that. it that it creates it across the problem will be used to have nothing to do. so they're both feeding off one another. they both have the rays on that. so the only piece is very much down to how much is coming is how much draw often restrictions pump through the machinery. but you're in terms of power george's cups, that correct is the only problem at all. i know in the whole world that doesn't have the image, then please don't have the rights to draw dropped any legislation themselves. you know, they couldn't talk about it or creates little paperless. and so, you know, i'll be honest with the both of you in our audience here though,
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at the george now there's those 2 irish people. that's the only thing i know about the do you mean then you can, they come out with really very passionate spaces. i almost always completely agree with that. that's the only thing that it enters my world from this huge body bids so wasteful. you know, the big elections, you know, you know, then pump all the money into it. for the most part, it is trying to always be a referendum that the you is doing a good thing. that's what they, that's all it's doing. okay. and, you know, with and then on top of that, george, you and i have to talked about this and it is always the right between a pouncing and you know, the radicals. ok. how much truth is that in the add to that george right here, your, your as a right and but what a voice strikes be is when i see those, those 2 mic wallace and clad daily is a or, well, why is it only just them? i mean, is there anyone else i could be there somehow that thing the $720.00 amy bees,
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but it's always low as to who to talking any any sense of oh and i do for i shouldn't, did for a while and i and i drove arrives the, the that's right, but that and, but they're mostly what, what do the others do? what, what exactly is their role and, but apparently, then, you know, the big issue now is, well, are they going to give the, or still of under lion, a 2nd term. you know, there are in and nobody really knows this. i'm also so full stray dean will georgia maloney support from the lying and if they have these very good relationship, is it because she's been such a good job? well, that's the point, i mean, but that's where it is the issue. what is it that phone number line? i mean she's in the middle of her own scandal about why did they want to, i think of something like 4 and a half 1000000 doses of the fi as a vaccine. you know, given the, the, the population of, i didn't know, i think, 4 and a half 1000000000. i think, you know, potentially a, for an out building reserves. and so in other ways,
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because of population of the use of the 450000000. so that comes to 10 doses for a citizen of the you. so the question, why did you want to 10 doses and, and then she expects the europeans to pay for it. and then she's not, but she's not revealing any of her messages with that. but she exchange with the size of so she has been an absolute disaster. but because of the matching nations of the bureaucracy, she may well get us over. you know, the top, she's very vigorously campaigning for a 2nd to, you know, on she, you know, heis. i saw a little bit better before we can be in here. and martin, they said, she says is this uh uh, these elections are important because it's to protect the europe's democracy. is that what's front and center here? no. is to but tell me this is not a super needs and the jobs, you know, the establishment establishment that we don't necessarily see every day on television screening sees. so the, to the front end is do you know, but them, are you talking about?
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does that little publish the video that she made while she's walking through the country, choking through the countryside in a she comes this charming, you know, german house. and unfortunately, we didn't cut to, you know, guilt, you edge photographs of the full father's in wilson, so uniforms on top of the piano, we should, we would have done that. been much more interesting, but she's done a good job in keeping the state as quote and keeping the leads where they all i'm blood and like so. and, you know, probably she needs to stay another 5 years to really immune herself from any outside persecution over the 5 the scandal from companies on member states. you know, they, a couple of months ago, it was announced that the use own into internal fraud department are investigating, you know, well, we really should expect something from that, right? you know, how wrong friends in the european commission actually in investigating or white washing, but we'll see. but i think um, you know, we're probably looking at 5 more years from as well, which is quite, well, i don't know what's going on here gentlemen. considering what we talked about in
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the 1st half of the program and what we're talking about now, george is the germany when the 2nd world war, i mean it is, it is going to try to show. so i did a good drama, is that what was in attendance with all these uh, ceremonies uh, russia was not invited had the ceremonies. and of course 0 who's leading the charge in the, in europe, it's germany, which is which is open. they told me that we've had the bad books and the onboard with a roster, and then she said no, that's fake news or didn't say and below there it is. and she is. she is. she said it was germany has dropped all pretense. you know that it went through in the 19 seventies 19 ages that somehow hit. so this is a new country. we're very, very different from the what we used to be. but luckily we don't have any hatred for anyone. you know what we and you know, for milk human kindness towards everyone. henceforth, only these will emanate from german,
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so that was his commitment in 1990. john is step by step abandoned. all of that is all the russell phobia that was so prevalent in germany in the 90s. so it is. and before what it's worth, once again, it's a, it's a coordinates for political see the way, what's up on the line talks about russia. that's the way i mean, a babble. thoughts about richard and you're getting the drum and media for use any of these for anything both women are channeling their ancestors views. george. yeah, i think so. i think so. i think they, they, they've, they've been jones now feel unrestrained. they don't have to pretend that the way they had to focus on some years that this is a, is there a new people, they don't have any of that horrible, horrible, nasty aspects of drugs. and i think this is very much the cause of germany that we've been being familiar with in the past. yeah. and we have the defense administered, talking about the re a re arm and being with that being and being necessary to fight
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a war by to 2029 against whom it's left on said gentleman, that's all the time we have. it goes so quickly, i want to thank my guessing, american and in budapest. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in our dc and next time. remember, across the rules, the, [000:00:00;00] the, in 1884, the german empire began its colonial invasion intent and maybe from the very start, berlin encouraged the white colon as to settle in south west africa and take away
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the best land from the local drive. the germans were actively draining natural resources and using the local population as a cheap labor source. this was causing major protest and led to a rebuild your in 19 o 4. they hear arrow and now my drive is rebuild against the german colonial rule. kaiser wilhelm the 2nd was fully determined in order to suppress the rebellion with the utmost severity against the inhabitants of nam may be a germany through its 15000 well equipped army. all around the country concentration camps were built. in humane medical experiments over citizens were conducted within the period of 4 years. the german, skilled up to 60000 people, among which there were 80 percent of the here railroad tribe, and 50 percent of the number dr. the events in south west africa are called the 1st genocide of the 20th century,
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the, [000:00:00;00] the in previous tours of duty. i often heard the phrase on tennessee is the god of war, soldiers repeated, and is often seen on military chaperones. was stuck in my head. what do they mean really i was wondering what these soldiers that like, what will they do and how they handle that powerful weapons cycle down. yeah.
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