is giving unfortunately to uh, those uh, american and canadian uh, jewish community who are living in united states and in canada to come and live in west bank as is where your district has is in the lands which has been stolen and down even making options. and this is showing what kind of people across the, all the americans to allow such an event happening on their lands. why they're talking about the then the, the symptoms are illegal. but once it is, is a, oh, it is a total new story. it is something else is what it is. i'm the law. again, i'm saying this is the dog has done this. this is whenever we're united states think that this thing is serving the interest. they would support it, otherwise they wouldn't just ignore it. and this is what we have seen in this situation, right, just a reminder, our website will keep you up to date on a hectic day of news. keep across the big developments by checking i r t dot com.

good by the the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm peter a little. this was hosted ukraine peace conference was an object failure. it failed because the issue of peace was not on the agenda. they did everything they could to escalate and pro long becomes like. meanwhile, moscow has its own plans to cnn, to the fight, the

cross sucking ukraine. i'm joined by my guess, make a live petro in kingston. he's a professor of political science at the university of rhode island in brussels. we have look relay to you as an independent journalist and invalid. so we cross the andre dealership in co k, as a former ukrainian diplomat. quite gentleman cross that girls in effect, that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciate nichol. i let me go to you 1st here because we've had a lot of events happening very, very quickly. let's take a look at the end of last week when we had a present in coding addressing russia's diplomats and sending very clearly messages about how i negotiated and to this conflict could start at least the beginning of negotiations. we have to parse that there. and then of course we have the media coverage of the swiss a so called piece initiative by ukraine. um, i think, you know, when i look at, i look at that all of its in, in its entirety, its still towered t. we had russia and yeah, and uh,

i can see how to do that. really, you clayton's would disagree with what the putting that to say, but it least was a starting point. what we got over the weekend was no starting point at all. it was just more of a propaganda effort to prolong the, the conflict and to give the appearance. but it had some kind of global consensus. so your thoughts over the last week or so go ahead and i think you are right to call the designation of peace so much into question. because again, how can you have a piece negotiation without want the major people involved in the conflict of so what it turns out to be is essentially a grouping to put a pressure on russia. and that is in the, in that sense that it really didn't move the process forward any and, and then came pollutants talk to the international diplomats. and i think to be

fair, somewhat eclipsed this with summit because at the end of the russian, as a result of what we can said, a 3 things happened to move the piece process forward. if that is the desired objective piece of the desired objective rather than victory . right. so one is both and clearly simplified the negotiating process. we went down from ukraine's 10 points to put in was one point and there is only one voice that became mandatory. that is an official statement that ukraine does not intend to join nato. so the 2nd thing that is, initiative accomplished is to offer something that ukraine is not offering, and that is to end the blood shed now. and that is done simply by withdrawing the

troops separating the troops. and i would highlight something that hasn't been typically highlighted that there are inputs ends proposal. no initial concessions required, is simply to get to the negotiating table s, let's withdraw the troops stopped. the blood shed. we deal however, want this commitment on good faith to not to join nato. and i guess the 3rd point, which is more of the public relations of cool, i would say for a bulletin is that he proposed by his proposal rather put the lie to the frequent western statements that rush it in. tends to conquer all of ukraine and from there, move on into europe. because in effect, russia has defined explicitly and bits, territorial objectives. the 4 occupied territories which are the 4 occupied territories. well it, it's interesting locates a, uh, you know,

and watching the coverage of the so called peace conference. it's a shelf life has been remarkably short. i mean, for the reasons that the nichol i just presented to us because there's a fuller picture out there. and you know, i see it with every passing day. well another country takes their name off of the the they, you communicate at the end of the conference here. and even you have the, the ukraine hand for administer, say, basically maybe next time we should invite the russians. i mean, the whole thing turned out to be a complete waste of time, and it didn't help ukraine it at all. i don't see how would move the needle for ukraine whatsoever. so it was a real bus that way. and i agree with nikolai. i mean, if you look at the broader picture here, there is something to start negotiating, but it's not coming from the ukrainian slash nato. side go ahead, look, are found, i think, as you say god, it's the beginning of the end. but your brain on this call trans shows clearly that

the support is dwindling. among the supposed partners. i mean my toll our eyes later, the summit and the left early bite. indeed, they even gone, etc, etc. at the same time, as long as an ascii went to the point of stock in berlin and to the esl bringing us to evaluate that is and there, there was nobody to listen to or for any if you the last and the right for told her the absent and the center, my goodness center, for example. look very scare so all that, it was a brand new scares, bolton's, and down the crate in. and of course the bricks did not accept the branding of the conclusion something let's be. so what was the purpose of this thing? it doesn't work, mr. savanski, you know, andre, the one of the thing, you know, i looked at a lot of commentary and to be honest with you commentary that i tend to agree with . okay? but it, but they talk about the beginning of the end of ukraine. i don't want to see the end of ukraine at all. i want to see the end of this senseless war. and so what

does it take? and i've always wanted to ask you, you are ukranian diplomat. you know, they, they use the phrase that you, ukraine is a victim. but if you look at zalinski and the people that as he is surrounded and so they volunteered for this, why do they have the right to keep volunteering, young, ukrainian men to go into a meat grinder and today? sure, you're totally correct. there's the last 2 key minutes of this. when he became run for president has an unexcused deal, but he's going to make peace with the devil himself. it was a plan i worked for the last the scene while he was also president 6. there was a fine for the last 2 to come to don't boss and make a speech 2 weeks later after this migration was up to the people have done boss together with the russian federation. knowledge that these are you bringing people and we should get the most records on track. it was great inside that house piece and ukraine and how autonomy for the eastern part of the crating and have you bring

back together without the civil war. but all when the parents, when it's when basically you're and so you went under those article section really and, and in the west. and he agreed to this for he agreed to this for 2 years before the war even started. she was prepared for this war, monday was story, everything was be prepared. the most report from will decide. remember that process when the russian, the goal, she did this whole issue to lose piece for. and i is the premium. i spoke about peace for years and years, the courts, even this war was happening. while there was still a war 8 on bus. nobody listen. we had the position channels pro that spoke about peace. we had people who spoke about peace putting on to the list. so need to kill you crazy. this is what was the last 2 or 3 in any grade government went there to today, i believe was the graham. but there was, i see, is that all different president on the article one or 3? there's no general government spray there until this time. well, the early brain needs to change. if you green wants, peace doesn't need to go with america. well,

the warmongers in washington in london, it needs to decided, but it's on have a solid decision, let's say, like a personalized, for example, war has, we're seeing, we will waive we will. sorry. been 3 months. we're moving away. we're having it already pre and have the premiums decide what they want. we're going to want a piece government or a war and government. i believe you. the grands on the ground? well, what would work for peace because we're more and more you trainers today are looking for a peace deal with russia. they understand that there's no way out putting in already is losing loss. so before they even to work together, i'm exactly neighborhood is a date and they, it was determined on the 1st day, nikolai, i mean, in looking again at um, putting in speech to the diplomatic community. which gets so little coverage in the west. they do. it's really, it's really appalling considering the stakes. i don't see, i don't see any more real patients, the strategic patients that we've seen over the last 2 and

a half years. and i think the, the russian authorities know that they are, there is no good faith in the west. this conference proved it. and that they may start pushing a lot harder. and again, we're given the environment, the or nato is say, is going to have half a 1000000 men that will be around more radiating and we're talking about activating new killer as um, um, strategies and all about this is get to get very ugly, very quickly. i'm very worried about that nikolai. well, the diplomacy involves a lot of pastry and then the pastoring is exaggerated by the media. you know, there's an old uh, austrian saying that um, how do war start? politicians lie to journalists right then, believe what they read in the newspapers back. that was gotten so much worse now with the internet. it's literally impossible to know what is true and what is not

because respectable figure or people that we are told they are informed and respectable. so absolutely contradictory things. so that leaves me as an observer to suspect that if anything is going to happen is going to happen outside of the public eye. and here we can simply speculate. i do think it is likely that there are all sorts of private contacts between ukrainian military officials and russian military officials. you know, of course, to work out the details about the present or exchanges and things like that. but you know, discussion that go on one thing leads to another, they try to feel each other out. or there's all sorts of discussions among the diplomatic community, some of which gets leak to the browser. yeah, but nickel, me quite. i agree with you,

but we're rapidly coming rapidly company in the break, but do they have enough agency to make decisions? i guess, you know, this seems like, you know, this is mia grey and project run out of london brussels in washington. they do if they want to. and what is interesting about the recent spade of russ firings, of senior political officials in queue is that some people in the west are interpreting that as a way for the landscape to try to give himself a little more maneuverability by all right. all right, hold that thought nikolai, because that's fascinating. we have to go to a hard break gentlemen. and after that hard break will continue our discussion on ukraine. stay with our team. the

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the welcome to prospect were all things are considered. i'm peter about your mind you were discussing. you create the look um, uh, over the weekend we, we had a foreign minister loved off the speaking to the media and he did it this time in english. and he brought up, you know, i'm paraphrasing here, how this is an a lead project in the west this ukraine project. and what about the democratic processes in, in europe, in the united states? i mean, as you well know, you the where europe and elections here and um, the issue of ukraine, if it was mentioned at all, it was not a vote get or it was a vote loser. we have uh the governments of france and germany and a tail spin because of the election outcome. even though the u. k. is no longer

part of the european union. they're having to pay the cost as well for their, um, interest uh over the, in ukraine over their own people. how does this play into it? we have this farcical peace conference and we have, you know, europe and revolt view in revolts. go ahead, look a problem for the moments in europe. is that every party on the last or possible, right? especially on the right, that substances don't rush our whole day at the same views as russia for many options, all, all the ceasefire. and they keep silent because they are afraid of the, the global moved into west. and we all bombarded by the press, which is really supporting, you train permanently for a link to pull the patients involved, calling the elite law supporting the government of savanski. they cannot turn back any more and so of the people were really wearing apples and ukraine was not really

a topic during the european elections, not much. everybody tried to avoid, you know, and to tip toe out of the room. if anybody talked about training, what is the thing sure for the coming months and years is the fact that it's probably the replacement. all the joseph bought out. the tie, representative of europe for, for another phase will be replaced by kayak, killed us, the strong in prime and a stuck oh, great on the water you will still not. i am for your brain. wonderful. is a danger. you know this one good. create 3. it will have to enter your pin permission with her if you. well mean, of course, you know, you, they, they talk a lot about ukraine, but it doesn't really help you create andre, who, you know, way as this conflict goes forward here. how much do people in ukraine have an input

in this here? because i am very cynical about this whole project because i can, i think, any realistic person thinking realistically that this conflict is going to end this lot, gonna end and ukraine's favor. but those in you, in care of and they love a power is and then have power. they just want to keep this going. i mean, it's very profitable for them. i mean, how many of the already have homes in miami and, and tell of the even bank accounts, you know, i'm not, i, i think my cynicism is warranted because that is one reason to keep the complet going. of course, joe biden doesn't want to admit it. was a mistake, but joseph burrell doesn't want to admit it was a mistake. nobody in the european union empower, wants to admit this. so it's kind of a nurse. so going on, the money just keeps flowing on today. yeah, we use it for these people, our whole owns the last is owned by washington, london. wash in london is owned by the most investor complex. and with each state, there's no solver and leave there. and all these problems, even the, all the g 7,

and if you need to rapidly, all those meters are all controls when washington are wondering. so the only solver meter, now this is the frame, is to do it was talking about peace from his own perspective. and you, craig, and the situation is somebody out of the perspective washington. unfortunately, i just, i have to say there's no sovereignty brain. there's oh no independence. after the 14th the brain told her was like she was holding onto the power a for as long as possible. cuz he understands there's going to be a change in might be a change soon because of the tensions of the people who to you in the brain or grow . they are busy with government, you know, talk about a couple of their sleep. but the, he, the government moved everything to the government. so the west will make a change between, within the government you pray for one of their home, for the portion you go to the literacy and design system versus what we're gonna look forward to. so low and the tensions of the people on the train, so they will come with pitchforks on their own,

their charge on top of the government issues as something somebody independent. the was the need this to happen at all. and that's what people in the training are looking forward to. they're looking for to lead or they can trust to make a piece for them or to get out of this for in the best one relationship where you crane as possible. i can tell you that the promoter score and the brain best austic is presented with different labs that all of the state abroad. nobody came back to the print. 60 percent of the medical on the page is lost. the diplomacy, cordova, is taking all of these people away. he's not even asking them to come back because they are not put before the policy where they're looking for what we have, what's more, because that's what the west wants them to be. because that's my how the staying power. nobody's thinking about the cleaning and on the grounds, they're just pushing them to, to the blood shed and to the graveyard. that's more than 700000. the prayers have died for $400.00 each or 12 this process. you know, nikolai, what do i worry about? i already made reference to it, but you know, we had this uh,

quote unquote peace conference. they didn't result in much, i mean, even even look at the find them. you can, you can communicate was really watered down. it really didn't address the, is a lensky piece proposal. but there is no willingness on the part of the west to, to relent here. there they won't even getting and go into negotiations when they would do the russian government repeatedly say, you know, well, you know, make my day to test out. so, you know, we want to negotiate. they won't even negotiate here. what, what's all the alternative is, is just to escalate and i, i, i'm, i'm very, very worried that we're going to continue up the escalation lighter than you know, what russia it keeps following them up. that's the problem with the escalation. um, i have had some very real conversations with american diplomats supporting ukraine. they are now retired. but um,

and the impression that i get from talking to them is a certain calm about the prospect of putting going beyond a certain level of threat. or they don't think any nuclear weapons or, or any serious incursion into nato is at all likely. although there's no, no, no, no, no nichol, i, i have to stop you there and you know, serious. so what's a less than serious meaning what? well, i mean, for a, for example, they've vaunted at 60 ins. everyone's talk all about, well, they're not going to ukraine is lock at a station. those uh, the, that aircraft inside of ukraine. okay. number one, the maintenance is, is enormous. the, the runways are very sophisticated. these planes need to be for a landing, you know, on uh, basically an ice skating rink. it has to be really, really flat. so they're gonna station them in romania and poland. why would russia refrain from destroying those airfields?

because of a reluctance of russia to escalate the matter which turns basically the give the initiative over to nato. i think what we're likely to see is a number of air skirmishes over you cray. and if those should, for some reason not go well for russia, then i think the military options expand, but i suspect that at least initially rusher expects to do well in these conflicts. and again, we have historical precedent. we have a fighter jets from russia in the north korean war and china and in vietnam. so again, there is historical precedent and we don't need to expect always the worst standard real i visited really i, i find it really astounding. i mean,

i think you should to, is there, there is, there is a hypothetical. well, we might get into error skirmishes. we, you know, with that leads that goes to greater escalation. i mean, nobody says, oh, we won't, if you use planes or that wasn't a good nobody know, we have to be more planes and we have to escalate even more. the problem is the pass that we're on right now. and uh they, there's only one track. it's the award track in the west right now. what we need to use to activate a diplomacy track, but the forces in the west, the political forces are not strong enough to do so. and therefore, probably the, the global south west bank is, it's now called needs to become much more insisted on promoting diplomacy as a solution. but well, look, i mean, how many young men in the european union want to put on a uniform and go fight in the ukraine? i would say nobody, i would say nobody to, to,

and the baltics probably you would find people in poland. the politics to believe what lots on nature was saying before the rest, young man don't long to go to war on the ukrainian issue. absolutely not nowhere from spending to, to august sweden or not even fin up. nobody was the of war with the, with russia that's been the feeling soft. and people really, you know, and the for the golf months when they say, for example, balance your man, i'm in the process. now. you belcher visit the, going to give o r f. 16 there when give to, by the end of this year and the rest clinical probably closer to $22081.00 by then the conflict will be furnished, of course, and they know it. so they just put the break on the whole issue. they tried to find some money to send the grand to pay the full, they're all right, little side liquid glue, rapidly running out of time. and then when they get the last minute of the program

to on the right, go ahead. andre, a peer today we have to talk about when you see the war and i agree with everybody here. there has to be the west has to make a call and ask for a call from the white house, from the bible ministration from originally solves to food and you say the rest start to go cheap. and then this is the cost of putting on the train. uninstalled will not be able to europe has other in the ability to do this, only wash than the one who started this one feeling this one for you free to enter this process by calling to do an image. but here's what i'll do that because the electrons are coming to somebody will do this before you actually, he's done, it's over for him. so they're going to wait out until the electrons and good morning training and rush lives into the ground. you don't, you know, that's that. i think what it's a really important, remember, it gives people, you know, we've had disobey ukraine's going to the west ukraine staying and the he's, ukraine is right where it is and it isn't going anywhere. and we should save that country and as many people as possible, that should be an end, the war. pursue peace or a gentleman that's all the time we have on a think,

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